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| ybit_ | alystair: fire away | 00:49 |
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| alystair | eh | 00:51 |
| alystair | basically my friend might hang out here once in a while | 00:51 |
| alystair | he's amazing when it comes to GAs, but he suffers from skitzophrenia and isn't receiving proper treatment | 00:51 |
| alystair | I seem to be the only compassionate person in his life | 00:51 |
| alystair | or rather, patient :) | 00:52 |
| alystair | I'm helping rewrite his resume so I can help him apply to some larger companies that could possibly have inside help as well as give him a stable job | 00:52 |
| alystair | he's so detached, you can talk to him online and you might not suspect anything until he brings up the chip in his skull or the faces or noise | 00:55 |
| alystair | I want to help him find more people to talk to to understand that he's a fucking human being :/ | 00:55 |
| QuantumG | I know a guy like that.. his name is silvio | 00:56 |
| alystair | and | 00:56 |
| QuantumG | well, knowing this channel, I was about to not be surprised when you said "that's my friend's name!!" | 00:57 |
| alystair | no he's someone else | 00:57 |
| QuantumG | my other friends with mental issues are just manic depressives.. they feel dead on the meds, so they go off them.. people start avoiding them so they go back on them. | 01:00 |
| QuantumG | yoyoing forever | 01:00 |
| alystair | blah | 01:01 |
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| ybit_ | never had a friend that was schizo, not that i know of at least | 01:08 |
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| ybit_ | maybe try to get him to have a ct scan | 01:09 |
| QuantumG | why? The hospitals are in on it. | 01:10 |
| ybit_ | maybe it would help to talk with him and figure out where his logical infallacy lies first? | 01:10 |
| ybit_ | but i guess they convince themselves of something that can't be proved or disproved first off | 01:11 |
| alystair | QuantumG: that shit ain't funny | 01:36 |
| alystair | and it doesn't work that way | 01:38 |
| alystair | even if you could describe the problem it doesn't change the fact that they are haunted 24/7 | 01:38 |
| alystair | he needs more friends to be around to distract him from the insanity | 01:38 |
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| fenn | flamoot already demonstrated that this channel does not play well with schizophrenics | 06:09 |
| fenn | frankly, if he's not interested in transhumanist topics, this isn't the right place | 06:09 |
| fenn | if a person can't figure out their own present reality, how are they going to think logically about what is possible in the future? | 06:10 |
| fenn | seriously who does MDMA and then hangs out on IRC? that's just retarded | 06:18 |
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| JayDugger | Good morning, everyone. | 07:42 |
| ThomasEgi | moooh | 07:51 |
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| movvy | hello | 13:02 |
| dbolser | hi | 13:02 |
| dbolser | There were lots of discussions in here about 'synthetic biology', which is a huge potential growth area | 13:03 |
| * dbolser goes back to $job | 13:03 | |
| movvy | awesome thanks for the heads up, I will see what comes up in here! :) | 13:03 |
| dbolser | check links in topic | 13:04 |
| movvy | hmm | 13:07 |
| movvy | so most bioinformatics must be about gene sequencing and all that good stuff | 13:07 |
| kanzure | what? | 13:08 |
| movvy | I just don't understand how programming has its place in the biotech field | 13:08 |
| kanzure | oh okay | 13:08 |
| kanzure | well, have you seen all of the bioinformatics software | 13:08 |
| kanzure | "all" | 13:08 |
| movvy | nope, as a background I am a starting student with a huge tech and programming background, and start school back this summer in currently what is the biochem program | 13:09 |
| kanzure | also, can someone else fact-check cathal here? he seems to be claiming that you can acquire an allergies to gfp | 13:09 |
| movvy | so im trying to do some research around to see whats most compelling | 13:09 |
| kanzure | http://groups.google.com/group/diybio/msg/9f1958f711da0a82 | 13:09 |
| movvy | and dbolser recommended me to come here, because I do some work in the vc space with technology | 13:09 |
| movvy | but am very interested in starting or begining to shift my life and focus towards biotech | 13:10 |
| kanzure | vc? | 13:10 |
| kanzure | venture capital? | 13:10 |
| movvy | yes | 13:10 |
| movvy | had some tech companies I'm building get funded | 13:11 |
| kanzure | any firm i might know of? | 13:11 |
| kanzure | oh, you mean you've been funded by vc | 13:11 |
| movvy | yes, not give funding | 13:11 |
| movvy | not yet at least | 13:11 |
| movvy | maybe after these guys sell ;) | 13:11 |
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| movvy | but once these guys develop and sell in the next 3-4 years im hoping to switch over to the biotech field | 13:12 |
| movvy | thats why im starting back in school now | 13:12 |
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| movvy | so I can start getting a few years of learning | 13:12 |
| kanzure | movvy: so where are you with biotech? still need to see the hype or ready to realize the horrible mess it all is | 13:12 |
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| movvy | well honestly.. I just can;t believe so many people die from lung cancer every year.. I would like to help focus on creating fake or artificial organs some day | 13:13 |
| movvy | I gotta imagine a nice set of artificial lungs would save lives and make $$ | 13:13 |
| kanzure | lungs can be replaced by ridiculously huge machines right now that oxygenate your blood | 13:13 |
| movvy | yeah but they need a set that goes inside them! | 13:13 |
| kanzure | do you know about organovo and stem cell-based organ printing? | 13:14 |
| movvy | anyways im interested in this kinda stuff | 13:14 |
| movvy | is this where they like print fake skin? | 13:14 |
| kanzure | well, no | 13:14 |
| kanzure | organovo does tissue printing | 13:14 |
| movvy | thats crazy | 13:15 |
| kanzure | one of the famous printeedd bladderrs was just a layer of cells around a balloon (of sorts) | 13:15 |
| movvy | I do a bunch of work for a bio company called Perkin Elmer | 13:15 |
| movvy | not sure if you have heard of them | 13:15 |
| kanzure | jmil (in here) is working on tissue printing on a reprap (an open source 3d printer) | 13:15 |
| dbolser | bladder is a bit of a cheat though... you don't need a circulatory system | 13:15 |
| kanzure | sure, a bladder is pathetic too | 13:15 |
| kanzure | nobody needs a bladder- just hook up some tubes and spit it out of the body | 13:16 |
| dbolser | not that it's not usefull, just not general | 13:16 |
| dbolser | heh | 13:16 |
| kanzure | movvy: you might be interested in watching some of the stuff here | 13:16 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us:9000/ | 13:16 |
| kanzure | and here http://diyhpl.us:9000/random | 13:16 |
| movvy | awesome thanks so much | 13:17 |
| movvy | this is really cool | 13:17 |
| movvy | wow this is freaking amazing | 13:20 |
| movvy | a bio printer...crazy | 13:20 |
| kanzure | i don't mean to be blunt, but you have money? | 13:23 |
| movvy | define | 13:23 |
| kanzure | money to do your own projects that may involve hardware ranging between $2k to $50k in expenses | 13:24 |
| kanzure | here's a list of projects i've been searching for monies for: | 13:24 |
| movvy | yes those are realistic #'s | 13:24 |
| kanzure | er | 13:24 |
| kanzure | one se | 13:25 |
| kanzure | sec | 13:25 |
| movvy | I just spent 30k on a wedding happening next month | 13:25 |
| movvy | sucks | 13:25 |
| movvy | hate / anger :> | 13:25 |
| kanzure | movvy: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/diytranshuman_projects.v4.html | 13:25 |
| kanzure | movvy: is the wedding for.. you? | 13:25 |
| movvy | yes | 13:25 |
| kanzure | i think that link is a fairly high-level overview of "awesome things that should be happening right now, but for some reason aren't" | 13:26 |
| movvy | sure, im gonna read through it | 13:27 |
| movvy | kanzure where are you located? | 13:27 |
| kanzure | austin, texas but i should move to the bay area soon | 13:27 |
| movvy | I used to live in the bay area | 13:28 |
| movvy | I left in 09 | 13:28 |
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| movvy | some of these are interesting, but alot of them are community driven on open source rather then a specific business | 13:31 |
| kanzure | yes | 13:32 |
| kanzure | in this channel we're really into open source hardware as a platform | 13:32 |
| kanzure | i mean, there's a few potential business models | 13:32 |
| movvy | seems interesting problem is there is no description of what the money is for | 13:32 |
| kanzure | like selling kits, but that's lame | 13:32 |
| movvy | is it for hardware | 13:32 |
| kanzure | yes and for whoever's living expenses to be working on said project | 13:32 |
| kanzure | the other interesting business model is the incubator | 13:33 |
| kanzure | where you accept projects and fund them, but take 5% equity | 13:33 |
| movvy | gotta fund alot to make your money there | 13:33 |
| kanzure | i think that's #13, #16 | 13:33 |
| kanzure | yeah | 13:33 |
| kanzure | btw a few of these were written because a friend of mine was pitching a billionaire | 13:34 |
| movvy | I also had my best friend commit suicide over trying to live off the funding of an incubator | 13:34 |
| kanzure | "buy a lobbyist" lolno | 13:34 |
| movvy | so I don't really support them personally | 13:34 |
| movvy | to little funding to ask people to commit to something like a startup | 13:34 |
| kanzure | the thesis is sort of that technology development costs a lot because of Intellectual Property | 13:34 |
| kanzure | whereas people doing open source hardware are /already/ doing these projects anyway, and money will help them succeed | 13:34 |
| kanzure | for instance, the work being done on reprap | 13:34 |
| kanzure | http://gadaprize.org/ <-- i help organize this, but i don't know if it's the best strategy ever | 13:35 |
| movvy | so this printer lets you make circuit boards pretty much | 13:36 |
| movvy | or anything that is plastic? | 13:37 |
| kanzure | well, low-quality PCBs | 13:37 |
| kanzure | there's definitely some restrictions on what you can print, in terms of overhangs and resolution | 13:37 |
| kanzure | heh i forgot to mention this the other day in here, but this is ridiculous: | 13:39 |
| kanzure | http://livesprout.org/ a startup that puts a webcam in front of each plant in their warehouse | 13:39 |
| movvy | lol | 13:40 |
| movvy | it is a bit ridiculous | 13:40 |
| movvy | well kanzure, I like your style some of this is pretty cool | 13:40 |
| movvy | especillay the chromotography one | 13:40 |
| kanzure | movvy: can i pm you briefly? | 13:40 |
| movvy | yes | 13:40 |
| kanzure | thanks | 13:47 |
| * kanzure goes back to work on his fortress | 13:56 | |
| fenn | you can acquire allergies to just about anything, with appropriate aggravation | 14:18 |
| jrabbit | it sucks so much. | 14:20 |
| jrabbit | I wonder if it makes the immune system stronger like training or weaker because of exhaustion | 14:21 |
| fenn | the latter | 14:21 |
| kanzure | fenn: i'd be seriously careful about h+ right now | 14:22 |
| kanzure | i looked over your email (and it's well written) | 14:22 |
| jrabbit | fenn: figures :P | 14:22 |
| kanzure | but if you're not actually interested in getting money from them, why did you write it? | 14:23 |
| fenn | i didn't say i wasn't interested in getting money :P | 14:23 |
| kanzure | or, if you do want money from them, how are you going to handle that without getting fucked? | 14:23 |
| fenn | i'm going to rely on their incompetence, i guess | 14:23 |
| kanzure | i'm like this dumb animal that keeps getting struck and keeps coming back for more punishment | 14:24 |
| kanzure | stay away from them, i'm sorry i ever suggested it | 14:24 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: you should be more dilligent about laughing at me for doing these moronic things | 14:25 |
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| fenn | ah good, erik sent me the ultimaker design files | 14:36 |
| kanzure | yeah so ultimaker is a company too? | 14:37 |
| fenn | bleagh don't ask | 14:38 |
| fenn | apparently they are going to go with cc-by-sa-nc | 14:39 |
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| jrayhawk | bart says you're free to call him if you want help setting up your own non-profit | 16:00 |
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| kanzure | fenn: you should see if tom got that email or not, since you sent it from your localhost (gmail probably marked it as spam) | 18:03 |
| kanzure | they are still sending me emails :/ | 18:04 |
| kanzure | "To follow up on our recent successes, we're looking to expand even further. We want to start work on some projects that we hope will start a global transhumanist revolution. The four main ones are:" | 18:04 |
| kanzure | " - Development of a new, open-source DNA synthesis machine. Current | 18:04 |
| kanzure | synthesis machines cost tens of thousands of dollars, and each gene | 18:04 |
| kanzure | then costs about $300 per thousand base pairs. By using new technology | 18:04 |
| kanzure | to design a more efficient synthesizer, and then putting the | 18:04 |
| kanzure | blueprints online, we will allow anyone to test new ideas in genetics | 18:04 |
| kanzure | and biology for less than a tenth of the current cost. | 18:04 |
| kanzure | " | 18:04 |
| kanzure | i don't know how an open source synthesizer will lower the bp costs | 18:04 |
| kanzure | actually it's incredibly funny if someone gets this request | 18:05 |
| kanzure | "you guys clearly have no fucking clue what you're talking about" hahah | 18:05 |
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| kanzure | i'm also not sure that piercing your ear "and throwing the chunk into a media bath" will do quite what nathan thinks | 20:41 |
| kanzure | are they just trolling everyone now? | 20:41 |
| kanzure | a chunk of human tissue isn't just going to 'take' like that | 20:41 |
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| kanzure | this is lame and should be a blog :/ http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/csq_vol01_hqweb.pdf | 22:36 |
| kanzure | it's jacob's citizen science quartlery pdf | 22:36 |
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