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| movvy | hello | 00:03 |
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| movvy | you should wake up | 00:03 |
| movvy | what can tell you right now isn't the time that changes your life | 00:03 |
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| QuantumG | is that sentence supposed to make sense? | 00:07 |
| movvy | i agree thats ridiculous | 00:14 |
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| kanzure | movvy: ok, i'm awake | 00:36 |
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| JayDugger | Heh, heh..."You don't turn a dinosaur into a mammal by explaining the virtues of fur." | 05:49 |
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| faceface | wake up! | 07:22 |
| faceface | any Doors fans? | 07:23 |
| faceface | Jim is pretty cool | 07:23 |
| faceface | bio.cc seems to be down unfortunately | 07:24 |
| kanzure | do you need a place to put the files | 07:29 |
| faceface | yup | 07:29 |
| faceface | I can try bifx.org, but I know they are running low | 07:32 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: is this something we can handle on cysteine | 07:33 |
| faceface | 4.4G unzipped, currently tgz'ing | 07:34 |
| faceface | (THL) | 07:34 |
| faceface | I'll just check on the JMB job | 07:34 |
| faceface | 1/3 complete (11,323 out of 30,555 pdfs), 23G | 07:36 |
| faceface | I figure I can grab 3-5 more | 07:39 |
| faceface | 3.4G Apr 10 16:40 THL.tar.gz # copying to bifx.org | 07:45 |
| faceface | THL.tar.gz 0% 8192KB 356.1KB/s 2:42:52 ETA | 07:46 |
| * faceface goes for Drug Discovery Today: Technologies | 07:58 | |
| faceface | Open access solutions available for this jorunal! | 08:20 |
| faceface | http://www.elsevier.com/wps/find/journaldescription.cws_home/505508/description#description | 08:20 |
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| kanzure | hi movvy | 08:29 |
| faceface | http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/17480132 # nano today ? | 08:33 |
| faceface | http://bifx.org/~dmb/DDTT.tar.gz # Drug Discovery Today: Technologies | 08:53 |
| faceface | http://bifx.org/~dmb/DDTDM.tar.gz # Drug Discovery Today: Disease Mechanisms | 08:54 |
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| faceface | I'm tempted to start work on jrnls like nature protocols, but it's such a pain to de-convolute the html | 09:17 |
| faceface | is there some way I can give people proxy access via this server? | 09:17 |
| faceface | email on the 4th of March "your computer account bolser@molgen.mpg.de will expire in about 40 days" ... | 09:19 |
| kanzure | an http proxy? sure.. use squid or something | 09:19 |
| faceface | how many languages are they bundling! | 09:23 |
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| Utopiah | http://marciovm.com/i-want-a-github-of-science | 09:32 |
| kanzure | meh there wasn't much there, Utopiah | 09:34 |
| kanzure | even eric meltzer's spammy "OMG PROTOCOLS, BUT SOCIAL !! WITH LIKES !!" was a better idea | 09:34 |
| faceface | http://bifx.org/~dmb/Nano.tar.gz # Nano Today | 09:38 |
| faceface | hi Utopiah | 09:38 |
| kanzure | how big is that | 09:38 |
| faceface | 271M | 09:39 |
| kanzure | ok. 8min remaining. | 09:39 |
| faceface | 2hours remaining on THL xfer | 09:40 |
| faceface | squid is still configuring... | 09:40 |
| faceface | I'm doubtfull it'll run on the DMZ | 09:40 |
| kanzure | i don't know if squid will do a pass-through proxy like you want, btw | 09:40 |
| faceface | was thinking ssh -D 2343 -g localhost may work, but ssh on DMZ doesn't support -D | 09:41 |
| kanzure | you don't want to give everyone ssh access | 09:41 |
| kanzure | oh, you mean port forwarding over ssh | 09:41 |
| faceface | yeah, ssh (newer) has socks built in | 09:41 |
| faceface | never tried it with -g though | 09:42 |
| faceface | if people promise not to install any 'disruptive technologies', I'd be willing to share the last days of my account there | 09:43 |
| kanzure | that seems like a stretch :p | 09:43 |
| faceface | heh | 09:43 |
| kanzure | since the whole point is to download stuff | 09:43 |
| faceface | sorry, I just mean, not start a hackathin | 09:43 |
| faceface | thon | 09:43 |
| Utopiah | faceface: hi, why do you want a proxy? why not call the script from a ruby/perl/whatever page accepting users target pages? | 09:44 |
| faceface | Utopiah: the ip address of this server gives access to becoup journals | 09:45 |
| kanzure | Utopiah: he wants a proxy to let others (like you and me) to use the machine, without giving us straight up access via ssh | 09:45 |
| faceface | but I'm lame at writing wget scripts | 09:45 |
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| Utopiah | ok, could try http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_proxy.html since you already have Apache running, you can even allow just to proxy content from Elsevier websites | 09:50 |
| faceface | Evangelists for Open Science should focus on promoting new, post-publication prestige metrics that will properly incentivize scientists to focus on the utility of their work, which will allow them to start worrying less about publishing in the right journals. | 09:51 |
| faceface | 100% agree | 09:51 |
| faceface | although at a conference I was at, people were all like, meh, publication schmublication | 09:52 |
| faceface | Utopiah: sorry, the apache instance is a different box | 09:52 |
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| Utopiah | faceface: dirty solution, you add a cron in the other box that hourly wget the source of a wiki page anybody here can edit, append the cleaned URLs list, start the script if it is not running then scp/rsync/whatever back to the server | 10:05 |
| faceface | wow, thats dirty! | 10:06 |
| Utopiah | That's what she said. | 10:06 |
| faceface | heh | 10:06 |
| faceface | but I see that it would work | 10:06 |
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| faceface | you'd just upload a bunch of url's to the wiki, then I'd wget them and send them back, right? | 10:07 |
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| Utopiah | back to http://bifx.org/~dmb/ yes | 10:08 |
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| Utopiah | btw Im no expert but I doubt Elsevier will enjoy crawling too much so I doubt getting an entire archives of journals (unlike random articles) wouldn't trigger their logs, no idea what problem that could cause though | 10:11 |
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| faceface | Utopiah: yeah... I'm figuring something will happen... | 10:16 |
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| faceface | anyone involved in GSoC? | 10:19 |
| faceface | I've founded GSoD : google summer of dissapointment | 10:19 |
| faceface | 'lets do it anyway' | 10:19 |
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| faceface | Utopiah: thinking about your idea, lets just do it informally | 10:45 |
| faceface | anyone who is interested, send me a list of url's by email, and I'll grab them and put them up | 10:46 |
| faceface | if anyone asks, I'll say I was making a private library (which is fine according to someone I spoke to at nature) | 10:46 |
| faceface | this server has direct access to all the journals that the MPIMG has, so it's way more than just Elservier, Nature, Science etc. | 10:47 |
| faceface | s/MPIMG/MPI/ | 10:48 |
| faceface | why does squid think I want sweedish error messages? | 10:50 |
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| faceface | http://bifx.org/~dmb/ADDR.tar.gz # Advanced Drug Delivery Reviews | 13:00 |
| faceface | http://bifx.org/~dmb/THL.tar.gz Tetrahedron Letters | 13:02 |
| faceface | JMB is 30 G and counting | 13:06 |
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| faceface | http://www.yourgeneticgenealogist.com/2011/04/23andme-sale-on-monday.html | 13:20 |
| faceface | time to sign up my family... | 13:20 |
| kanzure | hi jesperj | 13:29 |
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| jesperj | hello kanzure | 13:41 |
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| kanzure | jesperj: what's up? | 14:04 |
| kanzure | faceface: THL.tar.gz is 403 forbidden | 14:05 |
| jesperj | kanzure: Not much. You? Just checked out http://gnusha.org/skdb/ and since I am very supportive of the idea of copyleft hardware, and am into FOSS, I thought I'd check out what you guys are talking about here. | 14:14 |
| kanzure | :) | 14:15 |
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| faceface | kanzure: weird | 14:45 |
| faceface | did you try any of the others I posted? | 14:45 |
| kanzure | sure | 14:46 |
| kanzure | they all work | 14:46 |
| kanzure | you just need to chmod a+r it | 14:46 |
| faceface | they all have the same perms | 14:47 |
| faceface | it's 3.4G ... I wonder if apache is having a problme | 14:47 |
| faceface | kanzure: you can grab it directly from your bifx account? | 14:47 |
| faceface | I'll chmod a-r | 14:47 |
| faceface | actually, its already set that way | 14:48 |
| kanzure | if you chmod a-r how is anyone (including me on bifx) supposed to read it | 14:48 |
| faceface | sorry +r | 14:48 |
| faceface | can you see /memberroot/dmb/public_html | 14:48 |
| kanzure | i'm not logged in at the moment | 14:49 |
| faceface | or /memberroot/dmb/public_html/THL.tar.gz | 14:49 |
| faceface | ok, it must be an apache thing... I can check the log | 14:49 |
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| kanzure | faceface: it's still 403 forbidden | 14:51 |
| faceface | kanzure: yup, it has the same perms as all the other tar.gzs | 14:51 |
| faceface | it must be a file size thing | 14:52 |
| faceface | [Sun Apr 10 17:53:28 2011] [error] [client 92.236.231.2] (75)Value too large for defined data type: access to /~dmb/THL.tar.gz failed | 14:54 |
| kanzure | in fact, it's not even listed: | 14:54 |
| kanzure | http://bifx.org/~dmb/ | 14:54 |
| faceface | ^^ | 14:54 |
| faceface | do I need to set +x on the dirs for you to grab it directly? | 14:55 |
| faceface | you have root there right? | 14:55 |
| kanzure | yeah i can access it. | 14:56 |
| kanzure | the connection is really slow btw | 14:56 |
| faceface | nothing I can do about that I'm afraid | 15:01 |
| faceface | night | 15:01 |
| kanzure | cya | 15:02 |
| faceface | talk to dbolser, but I'll be out | 15:02 |
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| jrayhawk | kanzure: cysteine has piles of space, yes, but obviously access is sort of restrictive | 15:12 |
| jrayhawk | ugh, i should put together the new astroboy so you have more control over that | 15:13 |
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| kanzure | jrayhawk: i assumed you'd say that so cysteine is downloading those files at the moment | 15:21 |
| kanzure | at a crippling speed of 1 lame duck an hour | 15:21 |
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| jrayhawk | anyway, you're welcome to abuse it for whatever | 16:51 |
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| JayDugger | Good evening, everyone. | 19:28 |
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