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| Utopiah | is there a streaming of http://microbes-mind.net ? | 01:00 |
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| JayDugger | Hmm? | 07:05 |
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| augur | anyone here both on a PC and also interested in a Black Prophecy beta invite? | 07:13 |
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| JayDugger | Not on a PC, sorry, but thank you for the offer. | 07:17 |
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| kanzure | http://tinkercad.com/ beta is open | 07:40 |
| kanzure | they claim they are doing solid modeling in a web browser, but only export stl? | 07:40 |
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| kanzure | open hardware article in RS Components eTech magazine: | 08:19 |
| kanzure | http://www.designspark.com/files/ds/supporting_materials/uk_etech6.pdf | 08:19 |
| kanzure | eww seems to be broken/weird | 08:20 |
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| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biomega_%28manga%29 | 10:09 |
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| fenn | AlonzoTG: http://www.mommysbestgames.com/Shoot1UP_PressKit/NewShots3/Shoot1UP_BoxArt_girl.jpg | 14:41 |
| Lukas__ | :D | 14:49 |
| kanzure | arcade game? | 14:52 |
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| JayDugger | kanzure, did you read "Blame!"? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blame!) | 17:28 |
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| eridu | JayDugger: looks really good | 18:02 |
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| fenn | http://www.manga2u.com/BLAME/ i have slightly higher res version if anyone wants | 18:20 |
| kanzure | sure i'll take it | 18:37 |
| kanzure | put it on gnusha or, better yet, cysteine | 18:38 |
| fenn | can i just copy stuff to /torrents even if it's not a torrent? | 18:42 |
| kanzure | yes a lot of that stuff is "from a torrent" not "is a .torrent" | 18:46 |
| JayDugger | Just a test sentence--any weird trailing characters? | 18:46 |
| kanzure | null | 18:47 |
| kanzure | http://www.hackerunion.net/uploads/CubeSpawn.dia | 18:53 |
| JayDugger | Anyone successfully sign up for TinkerCAD? | 18:54 |
| JayDugger | Any context for that link, kanzure? | 18:55 |
| kanzure | these people just spread these files everywhere | 18:56 |
| JayDugger | And it's not a very good diagram... | 18:56 |
| JayDugger | Breaking logical sections into different layers would make it easier to edit. | 18:56 |
| kanzure | i'm in an angry mood tonight. tired of bullshit :) | 18:57 |
| JayDugger | Fair enough. | 18:57 |
| kanzure | read that as: i've spent the last 14 hours writing java and i regret it | 18:57 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: any hints on subversively forcing reprap to start versioning their subcomponents? | 18:59 |
| kanzure | we've been through this song and dance before but nothing ever happened | 18:59 |
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| JayDugger | Do you suppose commenting on the hackerunion blog makes a good place for constructive suggestions? I'd never heard of them before today. | 19:03 |
| kanzure | the cubespawn guys are on the openmanufacturing group | 19:03 |
| kanzure | fenn: check /torrents/images/manga/ | 19:04 |
| JayDugger | Got it. Thanks. | 19:04 |
| kanzure | oh blame.tgz | 19:05 |
| kanzure | also i must have missed something because i don't seem to remember the first six or seven issues | 19:05 |
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| fenn | i probably told you to skip them | 19:13 |
| fenn | the first 7-8 chapters are sorta loosely affiliated with the plot | 19:14 |
| fenn | also i'm not in the group "torrent" | 19:15 |
| kanzure | ok i did it | 19:16 |
| fenn | orly? | 19:26 |
| fenn | fenn@cysteine:~$ groups fenn | 19:26 |
| fenn | fenn : fenn | 19:26 |
| kanzure | it's in /torrents/images/manga/blame/ | 19:26 |
| fenn | oh | 19:26 |
| kanzure | no not that :) | 19:26 |
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| JayDugger | Good night, everyone. | 20:00 |
| ybit | all google videos to be remoed by april 29 | 20:03 |
| ybit | http://video.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=1233300&hl=en | 20:03 |
| ybit | i wonder how they make the .py work in the browser | 20:04 |
| ybit | nice animations, this one of apoptosis: http://www.youtube.com/user/WEHImovies#p/u/8/DR80Huxp4y8 | 20:05 |
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| kanzure | what? | 20:10 |
| kanzure | .py works because of mod_wsgi or equivalent for whatever server they are using | 20:10 |
| kanzure | there used to be mod_python but nobody uses that any more | 20:10 |
| ybit | i kind of figured but was hoping there was another magical answer | 20:12 |
| kanzure | the python is compiled in real-time into javascript and executed in your browser? | 20:14 |
| * kanzure has been stalking http://stackoverflow.com/users/343816/kevin-gaudin today. | 20:15 | |
| fenn | and executed on a turing machine made of ants and folded pieces of paper | 20:15 |
| fenn | remind me to never trust my data to a free web service | 20:16 |
| kanzure | what do you have against ants touching your data | 20:16 |
| kanzure | you're an anti-antist! | 20:17 |
| fenn | we're having a bit of a snail invasion here actually | 20:17 |
| kanzure | so what's the marcin plan | 20:18 |
| fenn | eh? | 20:19 |
| fenn | you're angry he didn't mention skdb in his 4 minute speech? | 20:19 |
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| kanzure | no | 20:19 |
| kanzure | i'm angry he has completely ignored the idea | 20:20 |
| kanzure | i'm fine if he hates the implementation.. he can have one of his friends re-implement it | 20:20 |
| fenn | he seemed interested when i brought it up many years ago | 20:20 |
| kanzure | this stuff doesn't take years | 20:20 |
| fenn | apparently it does, for me | 20:20 |
| kanzure | well, they have cad work going on | 20:21 |
| kanzure | so.. what gives | 20:21 |
| fenn | actually i dont know much about the cad work | 20:21 |
| kanzure | me either but apparently it's happening? | 20:21 |
| kanzure | somewhere | 20:21 |
| kanzure | although half the time it just seems to be blender stuff | 20:21 |
| fenn | probably | 20:21 |
| kanzure | did you look at toybrep? | 20:22 |
| kanzure | https://bitbucket.org/bryancole/toybrep | 20:22 |
| fenn | not really | 20:22 |
| kanzure | there's this strange subset of knowledge missing in me about brep maths | 20:22 |
| kanzure | the "unknown unknowns" as it were | 20:23 |
| kanzure | i was hoping toybrep would provide some parts of that, and it seems to-- er, sort of? | 20:23 |
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| fenn | sounds like you should read a book | 20:23 |
| kanzure | i can't seem to find a relevant book | 20:24 |
| fenn | "which book" then becomes the problem | 20:24 |
| kanzure | just lots of authors saying "it's impossibly hard, only teams of 100s of programmers can do it" | 20:24 |
| fenn | pooh | 20:24 |
| kanzure | "Fuck you too, mr. author" | 20:24 |
| kanzure | and seriously, if 1 programmer can't understand it, 100 surely aren't | 20:24 |
| fenn | yep | 20:24 |
| kanzure | or... you end up with opencascade :) | 20:25 |
| fenn | well, opencascade looked like it has a basic core designed by probably 1 person | 20:25 |
| fenn | you know the actual brep stuff | 20:25 |
| fenn | not including all the irrelevant crap | 20:25 |
| kanzure | probably ported from the original matra datavision stuff | 20:25 |
| kanzure | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5C6-J3xpjA | 20:26 |
| kanzure | "founded in 1980, matra datavision has steadily pushed back against the frontier of technology excellence" | 20:26 |
| fenn | odd that there are no screenshots of matra datavision online? | 20:27 |
| kanzure | that's the company | 20:27 |
| kanzure | the product from before opencascade was CAS.CADE | 20:27 |
| kanzure | and before that it was euclid4 | 20:27 |
| kanzure | CERN was built on top of euclid | 20:27 |
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| kanzure | http://support.mdtvision.com/Products/euc24/img/truck1.jpg | 20:29 |
| kanzure | wait.. euclid3 2.4 | 20:30 |
| kanzure | why is this site still online | 20:30 |
| kanzure | http://support.mdtvision.com/Products/euc24/ | 20:30 |
| kanzure | "EUCLID3 V2.4 B : summer 2005" | 20:30 |
| fenn | not that long ago as far as cad software goes | 20:31 |
| kanzure | http://support.mdtvision.com/Products/euc24b/rfiles/ | 20:31 |
| kanzure | nope | 20:31 |
| kanzure | but EUCLID was ancient shit | 20:31 |
| kanzure | this is even after opencascade | 20:32 |
| kanzure | huh, support.mdtvision.com is up but not anything else. i wonder how stuff like this is forgotten? | 20:32 |
| kanzure | anyway if you ever want to see something depressing i have some logins to their bugzilla tracker | 20:36 |
| kanzure | i've thought about just stalking down the original programmer | 20:36 |
| kanzure | there's only maybe 300 developers | 20:36 |
| fenn | that's a lot of developers | 20:37 |
| kanzure | i think it's the one that was a pilot | 20:38 |
| fenn | ... galt? john galt? | 20:38 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/opencascade_people.txt | 20:39 |
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| QuantumG | lulz | 20:40 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/opencascade_people2.txt | 20:42 |
| kanzure | hrm i forgot the specific person | 20:43 |
| fenn | not roman lygin, right? | 20:43 |
| kanzure | no | 20:43 |
| kanzure | roman came on board late to the party | 20:43 |
| kanzure | plus if he had that knowledge he'd just do it on his own | 20:43 |
| kanzure | nurbs-nurbs math can't possibly be as hard as these jerks are making it out to be | 20:44 |
| kanzure | and even if it is hard, i can't seem to figure out what i should be doing, because everyone keeps handwaving | 20:44 |
| fenn | there are a lot of edge cases to test | 20:45 |
| kanzure | so what.. i'll write the tests | 20:45 |
| kanzure | marcin on slashdot: http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/11/04/18/1658239/Can-Open-Source-Hardware-Feed-the-World | 20:45 |
| kanzure | (again) | 20:45 |
| QuantumG | yeah, nice pictures | 20:46 |
| QuantumG | I didn't see any actual designs though | 20:46 |
| kanzure | supposedly there's stuff hidden on openfarmtech.org's wiki | 20:47 |
| kanzure | stuff like OpenCASCADE6.3.0/ros/src/BRepAlgoAPI/BRepAlgoAPI_Common.cxx just makes no sense to me | 21:06 |
| kanzure | WHO WOULD WRITE THIS SORT OF CODE? | 21:08 |
| kanzure | it's just LIES upon LIES | 21:08 |
| kanzure | lies upon lies: http://www.gotfuturama.com/Multimedia/EpisodeSounds/2ACV05/09.mp3 | 21:15 |
| kanzure | pokemon apokelypse http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDX1m0Y2Vkg | 21:32 |
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