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| kanzure | eudoxia! :( | 10:02 |
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| kanzure | jrayhawk: spam from diyhpl.us? http://groups.google.com/group/diybio/browse_thread/thread/fd22e2c615853b33 | 10:41 |
| kanzure | ok nevermind | 10:48 |
| kanzure | i got the headers and it's definitely not gnusha.org send out that email | 10:48 |
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| kanzure | hi foucist | 11:21 |
| kanzure | see the /topic etc. etc. | 11:21 |
| foucist | howdy | 11:21 |
| foucist | what's the channel stand for? | 11:21 |
| kanzure | get lost in research: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/ | 11:21 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/stem-cells/ | 11:21 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/longevity/ | 11:21 |
| foucist | what's hplus mean | 11:21 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/microfluidics/ etc. etc. | 11:21 |
| kanzure | foucist: hplus means 'transhuman' or 'human enhancement' | 11:21 |
| foucist | h+ means ? | 11:21 |
| foucist | ahh | 11:21 |
| foucist | coolio | 11:21 |
| foucist | hey dammit, epitron beat me here | 11:22 |
| * foucist always the last to know :( | 11:22 | |
| kanzure | yeah he's been here for three years or something lame | 11:23 |
| foucist | bastard!!!! | 11:23 |
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| kanzure | hi el_kevino | 11:24 |
| el_kevino | hello, your mention of nootropics piqued my interest | 11:24 |
| foucist | kanzure: i also name dropped the chan in #lesswrong, lets hope for some suckers from there | 11:25 |
| kanzure | i hate lesswrong | 11:25 |
| kanzure | fuck you for doing that | 11:25 |
| foucist | oops | 11:25 |
| foucist | :P | 11:25 |
| foucist | kanzure: seriously? how come | 11:25 |
| foucist | i don't read the site myself | 11:25 |
| foucist | just idle in the chan | 11:25 |
| kanzure | it's a long story and i don't care to tell it | 11:26 |
| foucist | ok | 11:26 |
| kanzure | siai is made up of jerks and i don't really enjoy being so closely related to their social networks | 11:26 |
| foucist | ah i see | 11:26 |
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| kanzure | there's like one redeeming person in the entire organization :p | 11:26 |
| foucist | heh, i'm not too involved in all that anyways, just predominantly an ircer | 11:26 |
| el_kevino | any docs/sites for nootropics that you guys use? | 11:27 |
| foucist | kanzure: so whatcha working on? you got a startup going? | 11:27 |
| kanzure | el_kevino: imminst.org i guess.. | 11:27 |
| kanzure | el_kevino: do you do mobile dev? | 11:27 |
| el_kevino | i do | 11:28 |
| kanzure | foucist: today i'm working on a presentation for google io (tomorrow) | 11:28 |
| kanzure | i'm presenting on "how to make an android app in 30min" | 11:28 |
| kanzure | featuring live coding by yours truly.. | 11:28 |
| foucist | cool | 11:28 |
| kanzure | one of my projects is http://hoppersdk.com/ for the monies | 11:28 |
| foucist | will you capture the screen/audio while doing that | 11:29 |
| foucist | so that you can upload it later | 11:29 |
| kanzure | eventually | 11:29 |
| kanzure | oh you mean google io? yes absolutely | 11:29 |
| kanzure | hopper: eventually, that feature is coming but it's not a priority | 11:29 |
| el_kevino | nice - i was unable to get an IO ticket | 11:30 |
| kanzure | me either | 11:30 |
| kanzure | so i figured speaking would be a good way to get in | 11:30 |
| kanzure | but it's the austin event, not the main io event | 11:30 |
| el_kevino | ah | 11:30 |
| kanzure | still :) | 11:30 |
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| el_kevino | kanzure: do you ask everyone that? or are we in other shared channels? | 11:30 |
| kanzure | el_kevino: we are in a shitload of shared channels | 11:30 |
| el_kevino | are you me? | 11:30 |
| kanzure | what? | 11:31 |
| kanzure | i am very confused so i might be | 11:31 |
| el_kevino | bad joke :) | 11:31 |
| kanzure | anyway, so yeah- diybio stuff | 11:31 |
| kanzure | the practical reality is that the diybio projects are somewhat pathetic | 11:32 |
| kanzure | but i do think there's something possible within the microfluidics space, and CAD/lab equipment areas | 11:32 |
| foucist | well cost is always an issue | 11:32 |
| kanzure | not from a business perspective, but from a practical perspective | 11:32 |
| foucist | hacker spaces probably help though | 11:32 |
| kanzure | not really.. not many hackerspaces are sympathetic | 11:32 |
| foucist | right | 11:32 |
| kanzure | there's genspace.org, but it's all corporate | 11:32 |
| foucist | would need diybiospaces i guess | 11:33 |
| kanzure | biocurious.org had a nice shot at it but joe selected the wrong board of directors and it's killed itself already | 11:33 |
| foucist | kanzure: what do you mean within microfluidics CAD/lab equip? | 11:33 |
| kanzure | (plus joe is moving to chile so ..) | 11:33 |
| kanzure | foucist: well, microfluidic lab-on-a-chip-devices are relatively easy to make | 11:33 |
| foucist | is he gonna set up anything in chile? | 11:33 |
| kanzure | yeah he got invited to startupchile.org, got some money, will probably setup a lab | 11:34 |
| foucist | cool | 11:34 |
| foucist | is he chilean? | 11:34 |
| kanzure | no | 11:34 |
| foucist | i wouldn't mind going to chile | 11:34 |
| kanzure | startupchile.org only accepts people who aren't from chile | 11:34 |
| foucist | i'm heading to thailand currently | 11:34 |
| foucist | cool | 11:34 |
| foucist | have 1 backpack + laptop, will travel! | 11:34 |
| kanzure | the landing page for http://tripmedi.com/ is hilarious | 11:37 |
| kanzure | "Medical tourism you can trust" | 11:37 |
| kanzure | after reading that, i will never trust tripmedi.com. ever. | 11:37 |
| foucist | heh | 11:37 |
| foucist | i came across it from some startup bus thing | 11:37 |
| foucist | they'er just doing pitches at this point | 11:37 |
| foucist | and just a placeholder | 11:37 |
| foucist | http://startupbus.com/teams/47-tripmedi | 11:38 |
| el_kevino | that video has an incredibly awkward hipster fist-bump in the middle of it | 11:49 |
| kanzure | oh btw if you're into videos.. | 11:50 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us:9000/ (index) | 11:50 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us:9000/random (thumbnails) | 11:50 |
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| kanzure | hi nsh- | 13:16 |
| nsh- | hi kanz | 13:19 |
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| kanzure | hi eudoxia | 14:45 |
| eudoxia | hello | 14:46 |
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| fenn | fwiw spammers are harvesting emails from diyhpl.us (my email at least) | 16:10 |
| foucist | kanzure: 404 for http://designfiles.org/dokuwiki/skdb | 16:12 |
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| fenn | foucist: where was that link from? | 16:21 |
| foucist | fenn: his page diyhpl.us/~bryan/ | 16:21 |
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| kanzure | diyhpl.us/~bryan/ is nothing in particular | 16:49 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/ is supposed to be my home page but i don't know what to do with it | 16:49 |
| eudoxia | fix them links :) | 16:50 |
| kanzure | fenn: probably from meetlog.txt.. | 16:50 |
| kanzure | foucist: anyway, designfiles.org/dokuwiki/skdb can be accessed here: http://gnusha.org/skdb/ | 16:50 |
| kanzure | designfiles.org was confiscated either by the university of texas or a professor | 16:51 |
| QuantumG | Here's a 10 minute podcast of me on the @SpaceShow today. We discussed seasteading and private space stations. http://bit.ly/khvPwd (mp3) | 16:54 |
| kanzure | oh weird, i never linked to http://gnusha.org/skdb/package_spec.html from gnusha.org/skdb/ | 16:54 |
| kanzure | QuantumG: cool :) | 16:54 |
| kanzure | QuantumG: btw, did you hear eric hunting on TSS the other day by any chance? | 16:54 |
| QuantumG | yes. | 16:55 |
| QuantumG | One way they could make money is by recording Eric's voice and selling it as a sleeping aid. | 16:55 |
| kanzure | i didn't listen in | 16:56 |
| kanzure | <-- is glad that his voice doesn't put people to sleep | 16:56 |
| kanzure | fenn: how do i fix my linksprawl :( | 16:57 |
| QuantumG | do you know Chad Lupkes? | 16:59 |
| kanzure | uh.. sort of? internet acquaintance | 17:01 |
| QuantumG | he had a long rant at Dr Livingston via email.. Dave gave it back to him 3x. | 17:01 |
| foucist | kanzure: so, looking at ABI 377 or what? | 17:07 |
| foucist | 310 = low throughput ? | 17:07 |
| kanzure | whatever i can get my hands on i guess | 17:09 |
| kanzure | i saw this $100 megabace 1000 so i think i'll buy that even if it's b0rked | 17:10 |
| kanzure | i'd like to get a capillary machine, instead of a manual gel loaded system | 17:10 |
| foucist | cool, sounds like a good deal | 17:11 |
| kanzure | well then there's >$1k reagent costs | 17:11 |
| foucist | oh | 17:11 |
| foucist | any idea how broken it is | 17:11 |
| foucist | does it need a new lazer | 17:11 |
| foucist | laser* | 17:11 |
| foucist | btw, http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/index.php/Sustained_attention doesn't work :P guess you killed your wiki | 17:12 |
| kanzure | no clue how bad of shape it's in.. | 17:12 |
| kanzure | random ebay auctions, etc. | 17:12 |
| kanzure | [[Sustained_attention]] is accessible on web.archive.org, but i have been doing some hdd recovery lately so i might go fetch /mediawiki | 17:12 |
| kanzure | /mediawiki hasn't worked since 2008 | 17:13 |
| foucist | yeah i figured | 17:13 |
| kanzure | (because i forgot to transfer the mysql db over to a new machine) | 17:13 |
| kanzure | i have a lot of sprawling links out there :/ | 17:13 |
| kanzure | diyhpl.us, heybryan.org, designfiles.org, gnusha.org, designfiles.no-ip.org or something, uh.. | 17:14 |
| foucist | kanzure: who started humanityplus? | 17:15 |
| kanzure | um, well | 17:16 |
| kanzure | nick bostrom and a few others in 1998 started world transhumanist association (wta) for ethical masturbation | 17:16 |
| eudoxia | hahaha | 17:16 |
| kanzure | in 2008 they "rebranded" but only a few weeks ago sent in the documentation to be called 'humanityplus' | 17:16 |
| kanzure | there's a long history in this chan of people telling me not to bother with them | 17:17 |
| kanzure | and i agreed with them, but didn't listen and worked with humanity+ for an extended period of time | 17:17 |
| kanzure | anyway, i really regret it and should listen to my friends more often. | 17:17 |
| foucist | how come? | 17:17 |
| foucist | the gada prize sounds interesting | 17:17 |
| kanzure | yeah, so i organized the transfer of the gada prize from foresight institute, wrote all the legal documentation, etc. | 17:18 |
| kanzure | but that's more like "well we need a 501c3 to put this prize at, how about this one" "ok sure" | 17:18 |
| foucist | why do the transfer at all then? | 17:19 |
| QuantumG | transhumanism needs more marketing and kanzure is the guy to do it. | 17:19 |
| kanzure | any transhumanist should immediately recognize that humanityplus is just useless | 17:19 |
| kanzure | hahaha marketing oh boy | 17:19 |
| kanzure | that's all humanityplus does | 17:19 |
| kanzure | foucist: well, foresight didn't want it apparently | 17:20 |
| foucist | ah | 17:20 |
| kanzure | and i figured "better me than someone else" :p | 17:20 |
| kanzure | documentation: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/gadastuff/ | 17:20 |
| foucist | yeah | 17:20 |
| foucist | how close is reprap to the gadaprize? | 17:21 |
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| QuantumG | dear foresight institute, still waiting for molecular manufacturing.. any time. kthxbye. | 17:21 |
| ybit | ugh | 17:21 |
| ybit | tired of joining #hplusroadmap without a slap to the face | 17:21 |
| QuantumG | without? | 17:22 |
| kanzure | foucist: there's about 10 or 15 teams that are pretty close | 17:22 |
| ybit | QuantumG: yeah, #hplusroadmap, not ##hplusroadmap | 17:22 |
| kanzure | foucist: i think someone probably has something that could win, but they are hesitant to release | 17:22 |
| QuantumG | oh, right | 17:22 |
| kanzure | i had to come up with some fancy way to say "you can realize your reprap/gadaprize work as open source 'but non-derivative for the purpose of the gada prize'" since otherwise people feel they will lose a lot of money | 17:22 |
| ybit | kanzure: did you ever find AP1001-1009 for STEP? | 17:22 |
| ybit | without paying ~$200 | 17:23 |
| kanzure | ybit: yeah i have all of that now | 17:23 |
| ybit | yay! | 17:23 |
| * ybit wants | 17:23 | |
| kanzure | AP203 and AP214 are the parts that matter | 17:23 |
| ybit | yar | 17:23 |
| kanzure | um... gee i wonder if i put that online or not | 17:23 |
| QuantumG | everyone I know with a reprap has a different solution to at least one of the systems.. and none of them seem to contribute back their solutions. | 17:23 |
| kanzure | QuantumG: there's this huge thread on reprap-dev right now about versioning reprap upstream | 17:24 |
| kanzure | QuantumG: "NO VERSIONING IS THE DEVIL, LALALALALALA" | 17:24 |
| kanzure | and we thought we could get them to use git? holy shit | 17:24 |
| kanzure | ybit: i don't have time to go find those files, but i do have them.. how about after google tomorrow? | 17:24 |
| QuantumG | great thing about open source software.. contributing your fixes upstream *actually help you eventually* | 17:24 |
| ybit | durka, i meant AM, not AP | 17:25 |
| QuantumG | or at least most people think that way | 17:25 |
| kanzure | well the problem is that upstream in the reprap project isn't er.. normal | 17:25 |
| ybit | kanzure: heh, you got it | 17:25 |
| kanzure | i mean.. it's not like a software project where the maintainers understand how to run a good open source project | 17:25 |
| QuantumG | step 1) build your own reprap, 2) fix something random, 3) contribute your changes upstream so that, 4) sometime in the future you make another reprap and it includes your fixes?? | 17:26 |
| QuantumG | most people who do step 1 are never going to do step 4, so they don't bother doing step 3 | 17:26 |
| QuantumG | if the reprap community ever get to the point where you can download the instructions for machine 4.42 and feed it into machine 4.41 and out pops the new machine, then there will be a point to contributing back. | 17:29 |
| * kanzure is looking at: http://www.race-database.com/typeracer/profile?username=kanzure | 17:29 | |
| QuantumG | it'll be the same reason why people contribute back to software... maintaining a personal patch set is a pain in the ass. | 17:29 |
| kanzure | ybit: why do you want step stuff | 17:30 |
| kanzure | QuantumG: i dunno it seems to be the same pain-in-the-ass-level as normal reprap | 17:30 |
| QuantumG | yes, well, contributing back needs to be easier than maintain a person patch set. | 17:31 |
| ybit | kanzure: i don't know really. maybe i'm thinking somewhere down the road i might do something with it | 17:31 |
| ybit | 162 wpm o.O | 17:33 |
| ybit | in alabama, we like it slow | 17:33 |
| ybit | isn't that right kats | 17:33 |
| ybit | hrm | 17:34 |
| ybit | guess she quit hanging out here, here's hoping she became a sea pirate | 17:35 |
| kanzure | ybit: do you want to race? http://play.typeracer.com/?rt=trkanzure | 17:35 |
| kanzure | (just choose 'guest') | 17:36 |
| ybit | i would, but it would probably make you look bad | 17:36 |
| ybit | 200+wpm over here ;) | 17:36 |
| kanzure | who says i'm not holding back | 17:36 |
| ybit | heh, no need in racing, i know your faster after i tried doing what you sometimes do at conferences | 17:37 |
| kanzure | woo | 17:37 |
| kanzure | oh haha | 17:37 |
| kanzure | yeah "don't try this at home" | 17:37 |
| ybit | :P | 17:37 |
| kanzure | 92wpm isn't bad | 17:38 |
| fenn | rawr | 17:38 |
| kanzure | hi fenn | 17:38 |
| fenn | 92 was me | 17:38 |
| kanzure | hahahah | 17:38 |
| fenn | i was like 'what? i need to backspace?' | 17:38 |
| kanzure | ok that's unfair. you can click the link to try again | 17:38 |
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| kanzure | wtf's up with the quotes. "kissing the tortoise shell" | 17:39 |
| kanzure | 94wpm.. uh nice precision i guess | 17:39 |
| fenn | weird choice of text. is that auto generated? | 17:40 |
| kanzure | nah people dump in shit from books/music | 17:40 |
| kanzure | this next one seems to be pink floyd. | 17:40 |
| * fenn reboots into windows... *cry* | 17:42 | |
| kanzure | huh? | 17:43 |
| fenn | need to run usb tester program for work | 17:43 |
| fenn | actually, maybe i can do it in wine | 17:43 |
| kanzure | work! | 17:44 |
| kanzure | hrm. | 17:45 |
| kanzure | 17:46 | |
| fenn | google? | 17:49 |
| fenn | oh boy, 100MB installer to flash firmware to a chip :\ | 17:50 |
| kanzure | fenn: i'm presenting at google io tomorrow | 17:50 |
| kanzure | and I AM PSYCHED | 17:50 |
| fenn | uh, okay | 17:50 |
| kanzure | i am easily excitable | 17:51 |
| fenn | are you going to be typing out code on the screen? | 17:51 |
| kanzure | part of the time yes :) | 17:51 |
| kanzure | it's with dave/elevenarms too | 17:51 |
| kanzure | "How to make an android app in 30 minutes" plus a web server, and hoppersdk.com integration | 17:52 |
| kanzure | the idea is to deploy in-between versions to the audience throughout the presentation | 17:52 |
| fenn | hm, good luck | 17:52 |
| fenn | make sure you try it at the venue before giving the talk | 17:53 |
| kanzure | apparently it's sold out | 17:53 |
| kanzure | not just google io but google-io-in-austin | 17:53 |
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| JayDugger | Good evening, everyone. | 18:33 |
| fenn | kanzure have you read lepht's recent essay? | 18:35 |
| kanzure | no.. should i? | 18:35 |
| fenn | it's actually quite coherent and formal in tone, if a bit whiny in content | 18:35 |
| fenn | http://sapiensanonym.blogspot.com/2011/05/oh-look-it-hasnt-accomplished-anything.html | 18:36 |
| kanzure | mediafire? | 18:36 |
| JayDugger | fenn: You had or have a project to build a Mendel, do remember that right? | 18:36 |
| fenn | JayDugger: mini-mendel | 18:37 |
| kanzure | "I am one of the original members of this movement" fuck this | 18:37 |
| jrayhawk | mediafire is just depressing. we should give her some http namespace on your vserver. | 18:38 |
| kanzure | that's fine | 18:38 |
| JayDugger | What's lepht's IRL name? | 18:38 |
| fenn | why do you want to know? | 18:39 |
| kanzure | fenn: other than that deviation i quoted, it looks fine to me | 18:39 |
| kanzure | i gave it the 30sec reading though | 18:39 |
| fenn | i think it's funny that natasha is considered an authority on transhumanism | 18:40 |
| kanzure | she screams and shouts when she finds out that someone neglected her somewhere | 18:41 |
| JayDugger | So that I can save the file as <Author's Surname>, <Author's First Name> - <Title> - (<Year>) | 18:41 |
| fenn | hum, after seeing the facial tattoos i guess it doesn't matter | 18:42 |
| fenn | alicia mason | 18:42 |
| JayDugger | Thanks. | 18:43 |
| kanzure | how'd you find that | 18:43 |
| kanzure | i feel so destroyed | 18:43 |
| kanzure | my google-fu.. it has failed me | 18:43 |
| fenn | "Twenty-one-year-old Alicia Mason’s strong commitment to learning in the face of the chronic pain which she has suffered from since her teenage years, secured her the Quincentenary Prize." | 18:43 |
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| kanzure | fenn: i'm not sure that inference is correct | 18:47 |
| kanzure | it sounds like this was an essay for a class | 18:47 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: how do i do that diplomatically | 18:48 |
| jrayhawk | Do which? | 18:49 |
| kanzure | the vserver offer | 18:49 |
| kanzure | you know, without being passive aggressive | 18:50 |
| jrayhawk | Oh. "Hi, I like facilitating transhumanists and I'm noticing you currently have mediocre hosting; let me know if you want a somewhat more permanent place to host your files at one or more of diyhpl.us, gnusha.org, WhateverOtherMillionDomainsBryanOwns.com" | 18:52 |
| kanzure | why wouldn't lepht just use biohack.me? | 18:54 |
| jrayhawk | And I can help get vsftp or webdav or sftp or git or Ikiwiki access sorted out. | 18:54 |
| jrayhawk | beats me; i can help make whatever you want happen | 18:55 |
| jrayhawk | webdav is tragicly a bit hit-or-miss in terms of OS support, i suppose | 18:56 |
| kanzure | how should i reply to this? | 18:58 |
| kanzure | http://groups.google.com/group/diybio/msg/0bdf7ff01c79198a | 18:58 |
| jrayhawk | "no"? | 18:58 |
| kanzure | that was my first idea | 18:59 |
| kanzure | he's making a public stink about this | 18:59 |
| jrayhawk | If he is terrified of having his email address exposed, why the fuck is he posting on public mailing lists | 18:59 |
| kanzure | which is fine.. but isn't this something (the entire thread, even) he should have brought up to me privately? | 18:59 |
| jrayhawk | I got one of those emails, too. Kinda neat how well they're targetting their spam, but it still scored 4.0 on default spamassassin settings. | 19:01 |
| kanzure | the spam contents looked pretty vague to me | 19:01 |
| kanzure | or do you mean spamming my social network? | 19:01 |
| jrayhawk | Yeah, it's not topicly targetted, but even referencing real connections is better than I'm used to seeing. | 19:02 |
| kanzure | some people have been mad at me in the past and start the spam faucet on me (i guess signing me up for lots of crap) | 19:03 |
| kanzure | but usually gmail eats through the spam in a few days of adjustment | 19:03 |
| jrayhawk | The SIAI should be warning russian mobsters about the existential risks of developing spammer AIs | 19:04 |
| jrayhawk | a viagra bot gives a whole new meaning to 'hard AI takeoff | 19:04 |
| jrayhawk | +' | 19:04 |
| kanzure | is it better for me to reply "no" or to just not reply? | 19:05 |
| JayDugger | Ignore his request, unless you value him as a contact. Then consider whether he deserves an explanation. | 19:05 |
| kanzure | hahaha "No. You can submit a patch if you want." | 19:06 |
| jrayhawk | I suppose 'no' is a deliberate troll, and that either explaining the morality of information or saying nothing would probably result in everyone being happier in the long run | 19:06 |
| kanzure | yeah i don't value this guy- he's incredibly hostile and self-aggrandizing but every time he boasts about his software he never has anything to show for it. | 19:06 |
| JayDugger | Then ignore his request. | 19:06 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: what about the "submit a patch" response? | 19:06 |
| kanzure | i wouldn't apply the patch though.. heh | 19:07 |
| jrayhawk | I guess that's an okay response. Link him to a git:// URL :) | 19:07 |
| jrayhawk | oh | 19:07 |
| jrayhawk | well nevermind then | 19:07 |
| kanzure | i wonder if spambots will ever start downloading random git repos | 19:08 |
| kanzure | i guess that's an ok strategy to seed a random git hosting service | 19:09 |
| jrayhawk | ohloh aggregates that sort of thing | 19:09 |
| jrayhawk | what would the world look like if a captcha-solving AI conquered it | 19:11 |
| kanzure | stats/authors right? | 19:11 |
| kanzure | there's lots of human services that break captchas for you in <15sec.. does this count | 19:11 |
| jrayhawk | Something like that. I haven't really looked into it. | 19:11 |
| kanzure | fenn: john griessen has invited you to his crawfish boil on the 20th | 19:17 |
| ybit | what spammer quoted you as a source kanzure? | 19:18 |
| jrayhawk | give me your email address and I can resend it to you. | 19:19 |
| ybit | jrayhawk: me? | 19:21 |
| jrayhawk | Yeah. | 19:21 |
| ybit | heathmatlock@gmail.com | 19:21 |
| jrayhawk | Done. | 19:21 |
| ybit | heh | 19:21 |
| jrayhawk | Naturally, of course, it might wind up in a spam filter on your mailhost. | 19:22 |
| ybit | had to look in the spam folder | 19:22 |
| jrayhawk | Message-ID: 1151883884.92501304963691001.JavaMail.root@ims1.itimes.com | 19:22 |
| jrayhawk | Maybe this is clever targeting. Anyone associated with the transhumanism movement has a high probability of being accurately classed as a lonely nerd. | 19:23 |
| jrayhawk | well, clever by spammer standards. | 19:24 |
| ybit | and the age is about right too :) | 19:24 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: it was the same text as quoted in that diybio thread, right? | 19:25 |
| ybit | this linda giles girl seems hawt | 19:25 |
| ybit | i'm doing it!!11 | 19:26 |
| * ybit sends her my contact list | 19:26 | |
| jrayhawk | Yeah. | 19:26 |
| kanzure | maybe i'm just really bad at reading spam | 19:26 |
| * ybit fails at third-person narrating | 19:27 | |
| kanzure | who was the guy who spent his entire ted.com talk reciting spam from memory? | 19:27 |
| ybit | al gore? | 19:30 |
| ybit | i dunno, there's really been too much spam to pick just one | 19:31 |
| kanzure | Although you might be apprehensive about my email as we have never met before. | 19:33 |
| kanzure | I am Mr. Kabiru Zongo,a Banker, and Head of Operations with (AFRICAN DEVELOPMENT BANK BURKINA FASO)in West Africa, there is the sum of $9.500,000.00 currently in my branch, | 19:34 |
| kanzure | there were no beneficiary stated concerning these funds which means no one would ever come to claim it. | 19:34 |
| kanzure | That is why I ask that we work together, I will be pleased to work with you as trusted person and see that the fund is transferred out of my Bank into another Bank Account, | 19:34 |
| kanzure | Once the funds have been transferred to your nominated Bank account we shall then share it in the ratio of 60% for me, 40% for you. | 19:34 |
| kanzure | "If you agree to my business proposal. further details of the transfer will be forwarded to you as soon as i receive your return mail, sending the below information" | 19:34 |
| kanzure | Regards, Mr.Kabiru Zongo. | 19:34 |
| kanzure | this is pretty standard ybit | 19:34 |
| QuantumG | do you know how the scammer makes money from that? | 19:35 |
| kanzure | it's a 419 scam | 19:35 |
| kanzure | http://www.fbi.gov/scams-safety/fraud/fraud#419 | 19:35 |
| QuantumG | obviously I know.. you providing a link to someone else who knows doesn't tell me that you know.. it merely implies you might. | 19:36 |
| kanzure | huh i never knew this part: | 19:37 |
| kanzure | " The Nigerian government is not sympathetic to victims of these schemes, since the victim actually conspires to remove funds from Nigeria in a manner that is contrary to Nigerian law." | 19:37 |
| kanzure | "The schemes themselves violate section 419 of the Nigerian criminal code, hence the label “419 fraud.”" | 19:37 |
| kanzure | QuantumG: true. but isn't it obvious if you're giving away ALL OF YOUR BANKING CREDENTIALS? | 19:37 |
| kanzure | btw banking in the U.S. is broken | 19:37 |
| QuantumG | no.. most people think 1) their credentials can only be used to deposit funds, so what's the harm and 2) if you can transfer money out of your account then it must have cleared already. | 19:38 |
| QuantumG | 2 is what makes the scam work and the banks should fucking fix that already. | 19:39 |
| jrayhawk | The entire 'pull' model is broken and should either be replaced with a 'push' model or a three way handshake model. | 19:40 |
| fenn | i thought the scams always came out of nigeria because it wasn't illegal there | 19:44 |
| ybit | kanzure: that's not the email i received | 19:45 |
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| kanzure | haha microsoft buying skype http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703730804576313932659388852.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories | 19:48 |
| kanzure | ok that was interesting for maybe three seconds. | 19:59 |
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| flamot | http://tinyurl.com/4bqwyb7 << ca-ga 4.99.99 was silently updated to improve neuron wiring dynamics. there won't be any changes to the mechanics when 5.0 hits, so any species you make with this will be loadable in there, save all and load all are pgdwn/pgup and should be in the key help but aren't, sorry. ok. brb >_> | 23:07 |
| kanzure | man it's like he has a spam list | 23:09 |
| flamot | i'm going to write an article for phrack or 2600 on how i got it to crack captchas, once i get it to crack captchas | 23:10 |
| flamot | as a guide to evolving it to solve other problems... | 23:10 |
| flamot | kanzure it's a thinking system the size of Firefox | 23:10 |
| flamot | it's a hard tool i put on the table milliseconds before evolution and optimization will be export-controlled as munitions like crypto | 23:10 |
| flamot | which will happen a lot sooner now with that software out there | 23:11 |
| flamot | its real | 23:11 |
| flamot | i mean i don't think of it as spam | 23:11 |
| flamot | it feels really important to me well | 23:11 |
| kanzure | i believe you | 23:11 |
| flamot | i can't think of another, existing piece of software that could result in a thinking system... it has emergent sex, emergent multicellularism... | 23:12 |
| flamot | emergence where i thought it helped, fixed sizes and fixed ratios where i thought it wouldn't | 23:12 |
| flamot | a temperature model and self-mutating fitness function that make it like an ecosystem with weather and low and high ground | 23:12 |
| flamot | and perform automatic propagation and potentially, computation as well | 23:12 |
| flamot | if you hit 'D' in the running sim, that's all you see | 23:12 |
| flamot | the CA frobnitzing itself | 23:13 |
| flamot | that's what they live on | 23:13 |
| flamot | on top of | 23:13 |
| flamot | :3 | 23:13 |
| flamot | ok ty for believes me. brb >_> | 23:13 |
| alystair | wtf it's flamot | 23:14 |
| alystair | did you go to the hospital? | 23:14 |
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| flamot | i never wrote a neural net before, it's really fast. if 3.3M neurons isn't enough to crack captchas i don't know what would be, and the only way i can think of to evolve a system that size is cellularly. the only thing i see possibly standing between it producing intelligence is, the limited inter-cell communication, 4 binary channels per face | 23:14 |
| flamot | might not be enough to distribute 254 neurons per cell effectively | 23:14 |
| flamot | into pools | 23:14 |
| alystair | FLAMOOT | 23:14 |
| flamot | who knows | 23:14 |
| flamot | alystair lol | 23:14 |
| alystair | DID YOU GO TO HOSPITAL | 23:14 |
| flamot | i didnt know you were on freenode | 23:14 |
| alystair | you have no reason to be on IRC D: | 23:14 |
| flamot | no i didn't go yet | 23:14 |
| alystair | or on a computer | 23:15 |
| flamot | i'm simulating at a net cafe :3 | 23:15 |
| alystair | :| | 23:15 |
| flamot | i actually | 23:15 |
| flamot | spent my money on that, and not pot | 23:15 |
| @kanzure | flamot: i don't think you should be in here | 23:15 |
| flamot | like at home i take running my sim for granted | 23:15 |
| flamot | but when i had to choose between running a sim, or getting high | 23:15 |
| flamot | i chose the sim. i was really surprised | 23:15 |
| flamot | kanzure: why the fuck | 23:15 |
| flamot | i have a broken leg | 23:15 |
| flamot | but it didn't break right through and is going to be ok | 23:16 |
| flamot | i got beaten by a cop the day after i released the windows version | 23:16 |
| flamot | go on. suppress me too | 23:16 |
| flamot | beep | 23:16 |
| alystair | it would be better if you went to the hospital | 23:16 |
| alystair | even if it's not broken | 23:16 |
| alystair | and have them call me :/ | 23:16 |
| flamot | i no | 23:16 |
| flamot | i need to get comfrey oil tomorrow to rub on it | 23:16 |
| alystair | talk in PM | 23:17 |
| flamot | aly when i'm cleaned up i'm going to get the hospital to take out that chip | 23:17 |
| flamot | i'm going to say i paid for it | 23:17 |
| flamot | and it was helpful at first | 23:17 |
| alystair | this talk is irrelevant and being logged | 23:17 |
| flamot | but now it's silent | 23:17 |
| flamot | so can they remove it | 23:17 |
| flamot | it should be a vanilla, foreign-body extraction | 23:17 |
| flamot | not a mental health issue | 23:17 |
| flamot | good huh | 23:17 |
| flamot | ok pm it | 23:17 |
| flamot | the chip is from scientology | 23:17 |
| QuantumG | alystair: what's the number for homeland security again? | 23:17 |
| flamot | and it's super annoying | 23:17 |
| flamot | they harass-chat, spam me | 23:17 |
| flamot | all day with this face i can see | 23:17 |
| flamot | electronic hallucination | 23:17 |
| flamot | believe -that-, though | 23:18 |
| flamot | ... | 23:18 |
| flamot | ok brb | 23:18 |
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