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| @kanzure | https://sites.google.com/site/austinioextended/agenda | 02:15 |
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| @kanzure | hmm no streaming link | 02:15 |
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| SovereignBleak | Any local Danes here with the resources to encapsulate two magnets in sugru, parylene c, or silicone? | 03:28 |
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| alystair | kanzure: I don't see you listed on the website? | 07:05 |
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| alystair | you cheated me I thought your presntation would be part of the main location via wirecast or something ;) | 08:54 |
| alystair | http://www.google.com/events/io/2011/index-live.html | 09:03 |
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| alystair | kanzure: so do you get a free tablet as well for being a presenter? :) | 09:58 |
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| foucist | what do you guys use for CAD? | 11:54 |
| foucist | esp on osx? | 11:54 |
| foucist | kanzure: ping | 11:54 |
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| ENKI-][ | foucist: real men use vim. | 12:28 |
| ENKI-][ | :P | 12:28 |
| eudoxia | Oh gee is there an emacs/vim war again? | 12:28 |
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| ENKI-][ | eudoxia: vim for cad on osx | 12:34 |
| foucist | ENKI-][: now you know i'm not talking about text editing :P | 12:38 |
| foucist | grahh i can't figure out how to set/force dimensions in skethcup | 12:38 |
| foucist | sketchup | 12:38 |
| ENKI-][ | write the vrml in vim and then have a script translate it :P | 12:39 |
| foucist | heh, or i could go with postscript | 12:40 |
| foucist | i just want something fast | 12:40 |
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| foucist | i have the dimensions of the parts | 12:40 |
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| foucist | man there's hundreds of CAD programs | 12:45 |
| CryptoQuick | yeah, I've been looking for a good CAD program, myself | 12:47 |
| CryptoQuick | easycad is okay, I haven't messed with it much, not sure if it'd meet the requirements for a real CAD program | 12:48 |
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| kanzure | foucist: i wrote my own CAD library | 13:15 |
| kanzure | because everything else fucking sucks | 13:15 |
| kanzure | brlcad is a nice option though | 13:16 |
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| foucist | kanzure: i got to use solid edge extensively back in 2000, it was for 3d stuff, light years ahead of autocad | 13:19 |
| foucist | the kind of interface i really like is being able to draw out a rough outline, lock dimensions of the lines, and have it all snap into place | 13:20 |
| foucist | which is what solid edge allowed for | 13:20 |
| kanzure | solid edge was ok | 13:20 |
| kanzure | try alibre design | 13:20 |
| kanzure | i've been writing a NURBS library in python called lolcad | 13:21 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/cgit/lolcad | 13:21 |
| kanzure | git clone git://diyhpl.us/lolcad.git | 13:21 |
| kanzure | there's also heekscad which is based on opencascade | 13:21 |
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| MGrost | hello | 13:21 |
| foucist | kanzure: what graphics lib does that use | 13:22 |
| kanzure | hello MGrost | 13:24 |
| kanzure | foucist: which one.. | 13:24 |
| foucist | lolcad | 13:24 |
| foucist | gtk? | 13:24 |
| MGrost | hey kanzure | 13:28 |
| MGrost | its nice to see so many people here | 13:29 |
| kanzure | foucist: lolcad is raw opengl nurbs | 13:30 |
| kanzure | but with an underlying mathematical representation of the surfaces | 13:30 |
| kanzure | plus the ability to export to .step because i'm fucking mad and angry about cad | 13:31 |
| kanzure | but really try alibre.. it's an ASIC implementation i think. a lot like solid edge. totally proprietary though. | 13:31 |
| kanzure | MGrost: what brings you here | 13:32 |
| kanzure | foucist: oh there's also pythonocc which is just python/swig wrappers to opencascade. there's a lot of code in skdb.git that uses pythonocc. | 13:33 |
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| MGrost | the project seems interesting enough to pay a visit | 13:41 |
| kanzure | which project :P | 13:42 |
| MGrost | skdb | 13:42 |
| kanzure | ah ok | 13:44 |
| kanzure | btw i'm going to go fall asleep now | 13:44 |
| kanzure | because i haven't slept in at least a day and i should sleep | 13:44 |
| MGrost | safe falling | 13:44 |
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| MGrost | what other projects is this channel hosting? | 13:50 |
| kanzure | global world domination | 13:52 |
| kanzure | also, you know the little packets of sauce that are packaged with tacos? totally my idea | 13:52 |
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| MGrost | there's an idea | 13:55 |
| kanzure | um, another project is nanoengineer | 13:56 |
| kanzure | http://nanoengineer-1.com/content/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=40&Itemid=50 | 13:56 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/cgit/nanoengineer | 13:56 |
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| MGrost | very nice | 14:01 |
| eudoxia | You work on nanoengineer kazure? | 14:04 |
| kanzure | well i sort of try to maintain it | 14:04 |
| eudoxia | Awesome | 14:05 |
| kanzure | nanorex died | 14:05 |
| kanzure | and they had like 14,000 commits in a dead, inaccessible cvs repository | 14:05 |
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| kanzure | so i got the repo and converted it to git | 14:05 |
| kanzure | also there's http://groups.google.com/group/nanoengineer-dev | 14:05 |
| eudoxia | ah goddammit | 14:05 |
| eudoxia | isn't the Extropy Institute or whatever it was called also shut down? | 14:06 |
| kanzure | yes | 14:06 |
| kanzure | they ran out of money | 14:06 |
| eudoxia | Bummer | 14:06 |
| kanzure | it's ok they weren't doing anything except conferences/editorials | 14:06 |
| eudoxia | Is... anybody actually doing anything? : | 14:12 |
| eudoxia | :P | 14:12 |
| kanzure | um, not really no | 14:12 |
| kanzure | some of the diybio/biohacking people are trying to do things | 14:13 |
| eudoxia | ah well that's nice too | 14:14 |
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| CryptoQuick | just bought the student edition of solidworks | 14:44 |
| kanzure | why did you pay for it | 14:45 |
| CryptoQuick | because I got frustrated trying to pirate the latest versions | 14:45 |
| CryptoQuick | it'd be easy if the one I got from the torrent just worked, but there was (of course) a licensing issue | 14:45 |
| CryptoQuick | and then there's one from a rapidshare-type site that wants me to download 20 separate 400mb captcha'd 30s wait period, 900s interim ffffffuuuuu-- | 14:45 |
| kanzure | sw 2011 might not yet be cracked | 14:46 |
| CryptoQuick | it is | 14:46 |
| CryptoQuick | 2011 sp0, sp2, and sp3 | 14:46 |
| foucist | coulda just tried an older version of solidworks? | 14:46 |
| CryptoQuick | dude, it was a nightmare I don't want to experience again by retelling it | 14:47 |
| foucist | :P | 14:47 |
| CryptoQuick | I tried sw 2010, but it would quit immediately whenever I tried to save | 14:47 |
| CryptoQuick | I think there was a fix for that by setting a property in windows that, like, don't use the special aero effects... but by then I was on to 2011 | 14:48 |
| CryptoQuick | I rarely go legit, guys, I usually know what I'm doing, but solidworks, for some reason, always fucks me over | 14:48 |
| kanzure | works for me :/ | 14:48 |
| CryptoQuick | I knew someone would say that | 14:48 |
| CryptoQuick | especially you, kanz | 14:49 |
| CryptoQuick | well, la-de-fucking-da, good for you :P | 14:49 |
| kanzure | do you want the file? | 14:49 |
| CryptoQuick | no, I have all the files :P | 14:49 |
| kanzure | or are you just going to fucking complain | 14:49 |
| CryptoQuick | I'm going to wait | 14:49 |
| CryptoQuick | two days | 14:49 |
| CryptoQuick | :P | 14:49 |
| CryptoQuick | btw, kanzure, weren't you going to sleep? :) | 14:50 |
| CryptoQuick | sleaaaaappp | 14:50 |
| kanzure | I AM SLEEPING | 14:50 |
| kanzure | lucid dreaming interface | 14:50 |
| CryptoQuick | oh | 14:50 |
| CryptoQuick | nice | 14:50 |
| kanzure | ever get that feeling where you're not sure if you're awake or still dreaming? | 14:50 |
| kanzure | "well this confounds the issue" | 14:50 |
| CryptoQuick | of course | 14:50 |
| CryptoQuick | after 36 hours :) | 14:50 |
| CryptoQuick | btw, kanzure, if you still have the ability to conversate coherently, I've been writing down my ideas for implementation of auxons all week now | 14:52 |
| CryptoQuick | the document(s) aren't formatted very nicely, so I won't put links to them now... but I'll describe the basic idea | 14:53 |
| kanzure | skdb was originally a strategy for implementing a self-replicating system (if that's wwhat you mean by auxon and not axon) | 14:54 |
| CryptoQuick | the major factor at play is that Cu availability in average crustal rock, according to the Lackner-Wendt paper, is very low, as in, 10^-04-05 low | 14:54 |
| kanzure | the concept was to look into all of the available manufacturing processes and find a cyclic graph representing the processes that could make each other | 14:54 |
| CryptoQuick | interesting | 14:55 |
| CryptoQuick | I'd like to know more about your results | 14:55 |
| CryptoQuick | I'm more at the architecture level at the moment, not so much at tooling | 14:56 |
| CryptoQuick | I have come up with an outline for the design of the actual auxon, however, which you might find interesting | 14:56 |
| CryptoQuick | first, I need to put on some music that won't annoy the shit outta me | 14:57 |
| CryptoQuick | my music collection, 100+GB after five years of collecting all the good stuff, album-by-album, remarkably, has very little music that I'm really particularly inclined to listen to | 14:58 |
| CryptoQuick | sorry, I'm whining again :P | 14:58 |
| CryptoQuick | here we go, stick to the classics | 14:59 |
| CryptoQuick | Blank & Jones | 14:59 |
| CryptoQuick | anyway, the machine | 15:00 |
| CryptoQuick | I'm worried about solenoids at this point as the interface between the microcontroller and the moving parts | 15:00 |
| CryptoQuick | kanzure & co., don't suppose y'all have any ideas on this? | 15:00 |
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| CryptoQuick | dammit, too many ideas to convey in IRC | 15:02 |
| CryptoQuick | formattan document :P | 15:02 |
| kanzure | still sleeping | 15:03 |
| CryptoQuick | :) | 15:03 |
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| foucist | i tried a bunch of cad programs but they all have such ugly interfaces and i don't want to spend the time learning how to use them heh | 17:20 |
| foucist | pita | 17:20 |
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| JayDugger | Good evening, everyone. | 18:26 |
| mayko | Hiiiii | 18:40 |
| mayko | I made a video about the environmental chemistry of carbon dioxide... here is a link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LJFTDHLQyk | 18:40 |
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| ybit | CryptoQuick: sw works for me too :) | 18:45 |
| ybit | http://www.youtube.com/user/GoogleDevelopers has live streaming video, dunno if they had you streaming though | 18:46 |
| ybit | all i could think during your presentation most likely was fml, as I was in the burning sun fetching scrap metal :P | 18:47 |
| ybit | so flamot has a chip in his skull implanted by scientologists, innteresting :) | 18:51 |
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| ybit | kanzure: I'm third to fifth cousins with a Bishop according to 23andMe | 20:46 |
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| ybit | kanzure: reminder for request of STEP documentation | 21:43 |
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| kanzure | ughhh http://lesswrong.com/lw/5il/siai_an_examination/ | 22:13 |
| kanzure | "The organization reported $118,803.00 in theft in 2009 resulting in a year end asset balance lower than expected. The SIAI is currently pursuing legal restitution." | 22:15 |
| kanzure | haha, fuckin' tyler emerson (i think) | 22:15 |
| kanzure | god damn fuckers | 22:15 |
| kanzure | all scammy as hell | 22:15 |
| kanzure | god the reasoning in the comments is awful. i hate this site. | 22:21 |
| * ybit pokes kanzure | 22:28 | |
| AJolly | anyone going to the H+ conference this weekend? | 22:28 |
| ybit | I'm going to start meeting with friends every week and calling it an h+ conf | 22:28 |
| ybit | ..instead. | 22:29 |
| AJolly | i hear thats what living in the bay is called | 22:31 |
| kanzure | ybit: NO DOCUMENTS FOR YOU | 22:31 |
| kanzure | i'm really tired and i'll get to it in the morning | 22:31 |
| ybit | :'( | 22:31 |
| ybit | k | 22:31 |
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| kanzure | LA/grg photos http://www.grg.org/meetings/announce.html | 22:38 |
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