2011-05-12.log

--- Log opened Thu May 12 00:00:07 2011
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kanzureashkenazi 23andme data https://rapidshare.com/files/961006780/ASHK.tar.gz08:01
kanzuresee: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/05/ashkenazi-23andme-v3-genotype-for-the-taking/08:01
kanzureoh fuck not rapidshare.. ugh08:02
CryptoQuickoh fuck not rapidshare.. ugh08:02
kanzureeventually the file will be done here: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/23andme/08:04
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kanzurehm... someone on skype added me to ask me where i got this from:11:57
kanzurehttp://heybryan.org/docs/humancortex/Homo_sapiens.gene_info.backup11:57
kanzurei think it was humancortex.alleninstitute.org.. totally forgot about this :)11:58
kanzurehttp://heybryan.org/docs/humancortex/extract_gene_ID_names.pl11:59
kanzurehttp://heybryan.org/docs/humancortex/extract_specimen_ID_numbers.pl11:59
kanzurehttp://heybryan.org/docs/humancortex/get_XML.pl12:00
kanzureSayan Pathak <sayanp@alleninstitute.org>12:01
kanzurewhat an awesome name12:01
foucistheyyyy bryan..  heyyyy bryan.. we need some lyrics here..12:01
foucistsorry, the sudden influx of 'heybryan.org' links made me think of a song with "hey bryan" as part of hte lyrics!12:03
foucistbut too bad i'm not a lyricist :P12:03
kanzuregee i should probably put this data somewhere more reasonable12:04
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delinquentmehowdy all13:04
delinquentmekanzure, you have any idea how serious the diy bio kids are on submitting to that UCLA research project?13:05
kanzurewhich ucla research project ?13:22
delinquentmei mean UCLA proposed research related smartphone app13:30
delinquentmeit was on the socal bio group13:30
kanzureah i think i saw it and ignored it. didn't seem interesting to me.13:36
kanzureit was something like someone's research proposal that they hadn't even committed to yet..13:36
kanzureoh the medical app competition. meh.13:37
kanzurethe prize is only $3k that's only 30 hours of mediocre work13:37
delinquentmehumm if you know anyone whos putting time into something like that id jump on that shit13:38
delinquentmeid love to do some UI for a mobile research project13:38
delinquentmebut yeah im with you the 3k is measly13:38
kanzureit also seems like it's just a "creative idea" competition.. no actual development13:38
kanzurei don't know man.13:41
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fennwhat people don't seem to understand is that just throwing out a bunch of SNP's is totally useless for determining anything about phenotypes15:40
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paskykanzure: $100/hour? of course I live in Central Europe, but I thought even in US the top bar for usual programming work is around $50/hour16:18
paskyis that out of date?16:18
QuantumGlistening to Knuth talk is painful16:27
QuantumGpasky: consultants typically get paid a lot more than that.16:28
QuantumG"contract programmers" get paid more still.16:28
QuantumGbut as far as I know, most programmers are actually on salary.. so a per hour rate would only be approximate.16:30
fennwinning a contest generally gets you good publicity, if you care about that sort of thing16:34
fennwhereas people tend to sneer when you tell them you're a contract programmer :P16:35
QuantumGyeah.. there was a time where I couldn't bill enough hours, and I was getting paid quite a lot per hour.. it changes your life.  Getting food delivered is cheaper than going out to get it because you can get more work done.  Of course, I later learnt that I was one of the few contract programmers that was actually honest about his hours.16:39
paskyi see16:47
paskyheh, i've actually had my last day at work today, planning to slowly switch gears to freelance contract programming, once i figure out how to actually get some contracts :)16:47
QuantumGthey often advertise them with the jobs.. but having contacts and doing networking is more important.16:52
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ybit!!18:47
ybit^ignore18:48
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kanzure$100/hr is "mediocre"19:53
kanzurestill on the run.. bbl19:54
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maykoI just empirically determined that delay(0) does not, in fact, delay an Arduino script for 0 milliseconds20:09
maykoI made a loop with a delay(0) and one without and played them through a speaker20:09
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QuantumGthe point of delay(0) is to give up the remaining cycles of a timeslice to the operating system...20:30
QuantumGI don't even know what you'd expect to happen on embedded device.20:30
maykoalter the frequency of a speaker which is getting pinged once per cycle :)20:33
alystairmake the frequency change depending on remaining cycles in timeslice :D21:08
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jrayhawkpasky: $50/hr is reasonable for steady full time employment; the numbers go up when you're spending half your time chasing after work or providing various forms of unpaid support.21:51
kanzure$50/hr is completely unreasonable21:52
jrayhawkwell, plus various benefits21:52
kanzureeh i guess it depends on where too.21:52
kanzureindia => fuck yeah21:53
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kanzurepasky: contracting takes a long time to actually get contracts21:53
kanzurepasky: if you don't mind it, you can always partner up with some consulting firm.. but it quickly starts to be like a regular job21:54
jrayhawkonly with more sharks21:54
kanzurehrm i should respond to this metaquaifier guy shouldn't i21:54
QuantumGmeh, the point of contracting is that you or the employer can terminate the agreement whenever the hell they feel like it.21:55
QuantumGso you better be getting more money or at least have a sensible saving plan.21:55
kanzuretoday i built an openvbx setup for my mom's business :P21:55
kanzurephone menu system.. thingy21:55
QuantumGnot to mention the accounting responsibilities are entirely your problem.21:55
QuantumGI know a guy who did 3 years of contracting.. after he got away with not filing a tax return twice he thought he was free and clear.. then they came for their money.21:56
* kanzure looks at http://race-database.com/typeracer/profile?username=kanzure21:56
jrayhawkthat guy is kinda dumb21:57
foucistWHAT THE FUCK21:57
foucistsorry i'm a bit sloshed21:57
kanzureyo foucist21:57
foucistkanzure: but seriously 150WPM?21:57
kanzurefuck yeah!21:57
foucisti thought i was doing awesome at 90 WPM21:57
foucistscrew yo!21:57
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foucistyou*21:57
kanzurehaha21:57
foucistheh21:57
kanzurefoucist: want to race? http://play.typeracer.com/?rt=trkanzure21:58
foucistlemme hook up my keyboard21:58
kanzureuse brain rayz21:58
foucistwhat's yours21:58
QuantumGjrayhawk: yeah.. the first year he was totally worried.. and was like "I *really* shouldn't have dipped into that money" and the second year he was like "well, I'm already fucked so whatever.." and by the third he just thought he was getting away with it.21:58
kanzurefoucist: ?21:58
kanzurefoucist: my keyboard is some shitty laptop thing21:59
foucistmine is the ultimate MS natural pro21:59
kanzurenot even on a real keyboard at the moment. too afraid.21:59
foucisti'm impressed21:59
foucisthmm21:59
foucisti wonder if this keyboard would slow me down hmm21:59
foucistlets try it both ways then!21:59
kanzurewell i wish they would collect keyboard stats :/21:59
foucistlets start!21:59
kanzure"HEY THIS KEY ON THIS KEYBOARD SUCKS"21:59
kanzureok21:59
kanzuregotta click the link bro to join it21:59
kanzure152/100 not bad22:00
foucistholy shiiiit22:00
foucistyou finished minutes before i did22:00
foucist:P22:00
foucistand i got off to a slow start22:01
foucistagain!22:01
kanzureyou think that is air you are breathing22:01
kanzurebleh malcom gladwell :(22:01
foucistarey ou making any typoes?22:02
foucistthe "judgement" one slowed me down22:02
foucisti mean "judgments" i kept typing it with the e22:02
foucisti refuse to make any typos btw22:02
kanzurei make typos but i correct them with ctrl+a and retyping22:02
foucistahh22:02
foucisthmm22:02
foucistthat's faster than backspacing22:02
kanzureyes22:02
foucisti must try that!22:02
foucistagain!22:02
foucistoh shit22:02
foucistit wants me to sign up22:02
foucistah i skipped22:03
kanzurejust use a nickname22:03
fouciststarting22:03
foucistcrapp22:04
foucistseems like my first one was my best22:04
foucist93wpm meh22:04
foucistyou're crazy fast22:04
foucistdo you have long thin fingers or something?22:05
kanzurenot really22:05
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jrayhawkthere should be a site like that for various text operations so vim and emacs users can duke it out22:05
foucistwell if we both have the same type of fingers (short pudgy ones) then it's proof that brain speed or something has more to do with it22:05
kanzureyes22:05
foucistneuron speed hmm22:05
kanzureno i don't have short/pudgy fingers22:05
kanzurei'd say they are average fingers22:05
foucistah mine are kinda short relative to my bone widths22:06
foucisthmm22:06
foucistwell i mean normal sized hands but big boned @ 5'1022:07
foucistwider hands & feet than most22:07
kanzureimprovement graph: http://goo.gl/WdZor22:07
kanzurei'm 6'4"22:07
foucisti wonder if that helps22:07
foucistlonger fingers seem to do better?22:07
kanzuremaybe you can get finger extensions22:07
foucistguys i knew that were really fast typists in high school all had longer fingers than i22:07
foucistlol22:08
foucisti didn't hit 80wpm until i was 2422:08
kanzurehonestly i think this wpm metric is broken22:08
kanzurebecause i've been relatively stable for a few years now at 120wpm22:08
fouciststarted typing at 1322:08
foucistyou should be pretty stable honestly22:08
foucistpleateau at X wpm for a long time22:08
foucistmaybe break through to the next level every couple years or whatever22:08
foucistprogress should be fairly slow i imagine..22:08
kanzurei should try dvorak.22:09
foucistmy top speed was probably around 65-70wpm at 18, busted 85wpm at 24.. slow steady progress22:09
foucistor colemak22:09
kanzureor build my own keyboard that doesn't suck22:09
foucistdvorak swaps keys between hands whereas colemak keeps same keys on same hand22:09
foucistyeah22:09
foucistthere's a couple keyboard maps out there that were created w/ evlutionary coputation22:10
foucistevolutionary computation22:10
kanzurekeyboard maps do not interest me22:10
foucistusing finger travel distances and such22:10
foucista more hardware solution interests you eh?22:10
kanzuresure.. ever see the data hand? not the quickest keyboard though22:10
foucisthttp://www.safetype.com/22:10
kanzuresure, that's one.. for the ergonomic wankers22:11
kanzure(i'm perfectly ok sacrificing comfort for performance)22:11
foucisthm, my asusmption is greater ergonomics leads to greater performance22:11
foucistbut i guess that won't always be true22:11
kanzurei should add that as optional metadata on that typeracer db22:12
kanzurehttp://race-database.com/typeracer/profile?username=kanzure22:12
kanzureand then only let people compete with custom keyboards22:12
kanzureanyway, this is boring22:14
foucistyes!22:14
foucistback to cool shit22:14
foucistlike nanotechnology and world domination22:14
AJollywoo, world domination :D22:15
kanzurefenn: Atrus <atrus6@gmail.com> has been inquiring about skdb stuff lately22:31
kanzurehe'll probably poke his head in (finally)22:31
kanzurehmm i should exploit this22:35
kanzurehttp://it.slashdot.org/story/11/05/12/2030246/US-CERT-Warns-of-Serious-Hole-In-ActiveX-Control-From-Iconics22:35
kanzure"I think I've told this story here before but the funniest experience was finding a set of cables hidden along an I-beam, asking about it and then getting grabbed by an engineer and told "Ssh! That's *our* network"."22:36
kanzureindustrial process control architecture stuff http://www.xpca.org/22:38
kanzurevia that guy: http://www.neoclassicspace.com/22:40
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