2011-05-28.log

--- Log opened Sat May 28 00:00:07 2011
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kanzurethis was announced on the openscad list:04:07
kanzurehttp://jayesh3.github.com/cadmium/04:07
kanzure* The modelling scripts are written in Python, you don't have to learn04:07
kanzureany new syntax.04:07
kanzure* Most of Cadmium code is written in Python itself. Only <200 lines of04:07
kanzureC/C++ code is used to load CGAL04:07
kanzure* It has no GUI. Therefore it's light weight. It generates output in04:07
kanzureSTL format, which can be viewed in STL viewer of your choice. By04:07
kanzuredropping GUI requirements, Cadmium sports minimal dependencies. (only04:07
kanzureone - CGAL)04:07
kanzurei don't see any reason to be excited about it, though04:07
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kanzuredoes anyone remember if cgal does anything other than polyhedral boolean operations?08:59
kanzurelike, does it do manifold surface boolean operations?09:00
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kanzurehuman brain project http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/mensch/0,1518,761995,00.html10:09
kanzure"Und was den Kampf gegen Krankheiten angeht: Die Medikamentenentwicklung10:09
kanzurekomme auch deswegen nicht voran, weil Pharmakonzerne die Investitionen10:09
kanzurenicht schultern könnten"10:09
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ybita local friend found transcendental man and became interested in transhumanism10:15
ybiti've steered him away from kurzweil, and he's loving this stuff10:16
ybitthis makes me a little happy10:16
ybithaven't gotten that far in the cgal docs to know10:26
bkerokanzure: ping12:54
kanzurepong bkero13:00
bkerokanzure: you still know some folks who print reprap replicatable patrs?13:00
bkero*parts13:00
kanzureare you looking to buy reprap parts?13:00
bkeroyes13:01
kanzureyou should ask in #reprap and a legion of people will try to get your business13:01
bkerohaha ok13:01
bkerothanks13:01
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ybitbkero, strages. strages, bkero.13:37
bkeroybit: strages?13:38
bkerostrages: hi13:38
ybitor just #reprap :)13:38
bkeroindeed13:38
bkero#reprap said gtf2ebay13:38
ybitoh yeah13:38
ybiti asked once, got the same response13:38
* ybit fetches his old logs... uno momento13:39
ybitbkero: http://pastie.org/198629813:48
ybitexert from the tlabs wiki page13:49
ybitmight be helpful13:49
bkerotlabs?13:51
bkeroybit: wonder if it translates to a prusa model13:52
ybiti dunno unfortunately13:52
bkeroI'm also interested in finding out the maximum size of a printed object by each13:53
ybittlabs/tweak labs, a bunch of broke local people that were interested in forming a hackerspace, then they all realized they were broke13:55
bkerolol14:17
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kanzureInduction of human neuronal cells by defined transcription factors http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vnfv/ncurrent/full/nature10202.html15:51
kanzurei'll have to grab that later.15:51
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delinquentme_any idea on this statement ?  specifically the 35x coverage part?  The pipeline can analyze over 35x coverage of a human genome in one day on a 10-node local cluster,17:25
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kanzuredelinquentme_: think of it as how many times over the entire genome18:03
delinquentme_kanzure, is that necessary for a high quality read? or is that kind of something just to say "weve got this much power/ speed"18:04
kanzurewell, it depends on the read length18:04
kanzureif you read in short segments then you need to increase the coverage18:04
kanzureif you read the entire genome in one pass you just need 1x coverage18:05
delinquentme_hmmm18:06
delinquentme_so the 1x makes sense18:07
kanzureCoverage is the average number of reads representing a given nucleotide in the reconstructed sequence.18:07
delinquentme_how does more coverage make for better alignment of short reads .. is it because you've got more data to compare it to .. to verify the sequence its about to assemble?18:07
kanzureIt can be calculated from the length of the original genome (G), the number of reads(N), and the average read length(L) as N * L /18:07
kanzureFor example, a hypothetical genome with 2,000 base pairs reconstructed from 8 reads with an average length of 500 nucleotides will have 2x redundancy. This parameter also enables one to estimate other quantities, such as the percentage of the genome covered by reads (sometimes also called coverage).18:08
kanzureA high coverage in shotgun sequencing is desired because it can overcome errors in base calling and assembly. The subject of DNA sequencing theory addresses the relationships of such quantities.18:08
kanzureSequence coverage is the average number of times a base is read (as described above). Physical coverage is the average number of times a base is read or spanned by mate paired reads.18:09
delinquentme_hurm so some of this makes sense .. other parts not so much .. coverage = avg # reads, representing a given nucleotide in reconstructed seq18:10
delinquentme_oh wait .. so within say a 500 base pair seq18:11
delinquentme_any particular nucleotide will be "crossed" twice18:11
delinquentme_giving us 2x coverage18:12
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kanzurehttp://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/the-longest-cell-in-the-history-of-life/18:59
kanzuresince when have anatomists agreed that nerves are single cells?18:59
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delinquentme_any idea if there would be a IRC channel w kids familiar with amazon web services?19:37
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kanzuredelinquentme_: sure, i'm familiar with aws19:49
kanzurealthough i probably don't count as a kid any more19:49
kanzuretry also ##aws and #startups19:49
delinquentme_kanzure, yeap im there :D19:50
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JayDuggerGood evening, er...morning, everyone.22:48
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delinquentme_ howdy JayDugger23:11
delinquentme_yeah haha 2 am ..23:11
delinquentme_(here)23:11
JayDuggerNot too far from that here.23:17
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