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| Utopiah | http://code.google.com/p/plowshare/ | 05:33 |
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| Utopiah | http://pyload.org also withtesseract support for captcha | 05:43 |
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| kanzure | copenhagen launched today? http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2616050 | 07:55 |
| kanzure | QuantumG: you have failed me | 07:55 |
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| JayDugger | Heh... | 08:09 |
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| kanzure | more adverspam http://www.boingboing.net/2011/05/29/citizen-science-quar.html | 08:19 |
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| fenn | interesting website, they even do custom synthesis http://drugspowerstore.com/ | 11:40 |
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| fenn | kanzure, you should become a hipster http://jobs.usehipster.com/ | 13:22 |
| fenn | that guy looks unconfortably similar to todd anderson | 13:23 |
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| kanzure | fenn: that sounds like an awful idea | 14:16 |
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| lumos | hey | 15:15 |
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| Vez | Is this the feminists rights group?? | 15:15 |
| lumos | no #ubuntu-women | 15:16 |
| Utopiah | ##kitchen | 15:16 |
| lumos | Utopiah, ##captinoffutbalteaam hurrdurr | 15:17 |
| Vez | They won't reply to me :( | 15:17 |
| lumos | tell them they are flip switch bitches | 15:17 |
| Vez | <JanC> Vez: I suggest you go read the groups mission statement etc. on the site listed in the topic | 15:17 |
| Vez | shemad brah | 15:17 |
| lumos | why u meme atm | 15:17 |
| lumos | ATM* machine | 15:18 |
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| lumos | atm finite state machine | 15:18 |
| lumos | can you ask them to bring back my taskbar Vez | 15:20 |
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| kanzure | if anyone has suggestions for what i should do with heybryan.org, i'm open | 16:32 |
| kanzure | i've updated the landing page http://heybryan.org/ (optimized for mobile, for some reason) | 16:32 |
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| lumos | kanzure, | 16:34 |
| lumos | i have an idea | 16:34 |
| lumos | called feedback - net | 16:34 |
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| kanzure | story of my life? :p http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2618346 | 16:56 |
| fenn | what's the point of a QR code on a webpage? | 17:02 |
| kanzure | hipster flare | 17:05 |
| fenn | also the QR code comes after the contact info stuff, probably not what you meant (use float: right?) | 17:06 |
| kanzure | it's what i meant | 17:06 |
| kanzure | honestly i haven't put a lot of thought into this | 17:06 |
| fenn | you wanted it on its own line | 17:06 |
| kanzure | the 280north guy has a lot of content on his site i guess | 17:07 |
| kanzure | http://tlrobinson.net/ | 17:07 |
| kanzure | but i have a /lot/ of random crap and i have no idea where to put it | 17:07 |
| fenn | sort of anti-css webpage there | 17:07 |
| fenn | its not hard to divide stuff into categories | 17:08 |
| fenn | manufacturing, biotech, neuroscience, etc | 17:09 |
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| kanzure | but then i end up with 1000 categories or whatever | 17:09 |
| kanzure | or worse: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/meetlog/tags.2010-08-09-1150.html | 17:09 |
| kanzure | dave has been going kinda crazy getting me to re-do my website :) | 17:10 |
| * fenn giggles | 17:11 | |
| kanzure | since i'm so clueless as to what to do | 17:11 |
| fenn | that is an impressive tag list | 17:11 |
| kanzure | that's just meetlog2tags | 17:11 |
| kanzure | dave threw up something new.. | 17:11 |
| kanzure | http://elevenarms.com/ | 17:11 |
| fenn | i mean its a lot of tags | 17:11 |
| fenn | well obviously dave comes from the 'artistic graphic design' philosophy | 17:12 |
| kanzure | i guess i have 100s of screenshots i can dump into a website | 17:13 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/shots/ | 17:13 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/screenshots/ | 17:13 |
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| fenn | i do like webpages like saul griffith's old page, i dont think you have enough neato graphics to pull it off | 17:15 |
| kanzure | i like the default apache index :( | 17:16 |
| fenn | who is "ragsdale"? | 17:19 |
| kanzure | old biology teacher | 17:19 |
| fenn | what actual html webpages do you have written already? | 17:25 |
| fenn | iirc the mediawiki had most of the interesting stuff and it's too much of a bother to bring back apparently | 17:25 |
| fenn | and we dont really need a site map of your paper dumps | 17:26 |
| kanzure | lots of useless junk.. | 17:26 |
| kanzure | so um.. nothing i guess. | 17:26 |
| fenn | the analytical instrumentation page was kinda neat | 17:27 |
| kanzure | cd ~/heybryan.org; ls -l *.html; wc -l | 17:27 |
| kanzure | 119 | 17:27 |
| fenn | honestly i think you should start a blog | 17:28 |
| kanzure | other stuff like http://heybryan.org/alternate_transistors.html | 17:28 |
| kanzure | what would i put on my blog? | 17:28 |
| fenn | stuff you are currently interested in | 17:29 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/graphene.html | 17:29 |
| fenn | is there a summary of your research on sustained attention? | 17:30 |
| kanzure | no | 17:30 |
| kanzure | oh man :( i remember when that wiki page was deleted the first time around, | 17:30 |
| kanzure | the only copy is the version you're probably familiar with | 17:31 |
| kanzure | (it was deleted because a browser crashed, and i hadn't saved) | 17:31 |
| kanzure | i don't know why i have been so personally against blogging | 17:32 |
| fenn | because 90% of blogs are crap | 17:32 |
| kanzure | basically you want an rss feed of text i write | 17:33 |
| fenn | (the rest of that quote is: and 90% of everything is crap) | 17:33 |
| kanzure | dave wants my site to be a showcase of shit i've done | 17:34 |
| kanzure | btw, he thinks (and i agree) that you're the worst self-promoter ever | 17:34 |
| fenn | yep | 17:34 |
| fenn | i dont suppose you ever found any "agents" | 17:35 |
| kanzure | to manage me? | 17:35 |
| fenn | to manage nerds, in general | 17:35 |
| kanzure | yes: angels and professors | 17:35 |
| fenn | rather, to convince neurotypicals to interact with us | 17:35 |
| fenn | professors? | 17:36 |
| kanzure | oh, angels | 17:36 |
| kanzure | just angels then. | 17:36 |
| fenn | what? | 17:36 |
| kanzure | are you familiar with angel funding | 17:36 |
| fenn | yes | 17:36 |
| kanzure | yeah.. it helps. a lot. | 17:36 |
| fenn | hm. what does your angel do for you | 17:36 |
| kanzure | i don't have an angel | 17:36 |
| fenn | so how do you know | 17:37 |
| kanzure | dave has had a few | 17:37 |
| fenn | hey i updated my website a little bit | 17:37 |
| kanzure | yeah we saw today | 17:37 |
| kanzure | he wants to re-do your visualizer | 17:37 |
| fenn | the lifelog graph is supposed to automatically update, but cron is a piece of shit | 17:37 |
| fenn | yeah, i want to re-do my visualizer also | 17:38 |
| fenn | add pictures and other data | 17:38 |
| fenn | interactive zoom and query etc | 17:38 |
| fenn | anyway its pretty low on priority list | 17:39 |
| kanzure | yeah.. only reason he's forcing me to update my site is cause of some deals coming through | 17:39 |
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| kanzure | today is "bryan writes lots of iOS code" day (almost done with a v1 of whatever it is i'm doing) | 17:39 |
| fenn | i wish i understood how to make css box packing work sensibly | 17:40 |
| kanzure | have you considered raphaeljs or three.js for your visualization | 17:41 |
| fenn | i've never done anything significant in js, so i dont really know what's available | 17:41 |
| kanzure | http://raphaeljs.com/ | 17:42 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/mrdoob/three.js/ | 17:42 |
| kanzure | try this in chrome :p http://helloracer.com/webgl/ | 17:43 |
| fenn | why would i use a 3d engine for a time chart? | 17:43 |
| fenn | webgl is still in dev version, which i don't care about enough to switch to | 17:44 |
| fenn | anyway raphaeljs looks like the right idea | 17:44 |
| kanzure | you'd use webgl because you're crazy | 17:44 |
| fenn | okay how do i make it so a script gets executed 10 minutes after the last time a file was changed? | 17:52 |
| fenn | i know about FAM but it seems like overkill | 17:54 |
| kanzure | probably a daemon | 17:54 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: you would know a better idea, right? | 17:55 |
| * fenn mumbles something about inotify | 17:56 | |
| fenn | blegh | 18:02 |
| fenn | modafinil makes you stare at the screen too hard :( | 18:02 |
| JayDugger | Good evening, everyon.e | 18:04 |
| fenn | hello | 18:06 |
| kanzure | hello | 18:32 |
| JayDugger | fenn, you build a reprap. Do I remember that right? | 18:33 |
| fenn | yes, mostly | 18:34 |
| gnusha | hello | 18:34 |
| kanzure | hello | 18:34 |
| fenn | kanzure is a bot! | 18:34 |
| kanzure | hello | 18:34 |
| JayDugger | Before I start searching for such a thing, have you seen a list of "things you'll wish you'd known" for building repraps? | 18:37 |
| fenn | um, opinions vary widely | 18:39 |
| fenn | i recommend building a prusa with one of the newer extruders and RAMPS electronics | 18:40 |
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| fenn | newer = adrian's geared extruder, for example | 18:41 |
| fenn | the important bit is that the teflon goes _inside_ the hot part, not the other way around | 18:42 |
| fenn | and use PLA, don't even bother with ABS | 18:43 |
| fenn | makerbot only uses ABS because it comes in lots of colors | 18:43 |
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| JayDugger | Thank you for the good advice. Any pointers on construction? | 18:49 |
| JayDugger | Before I start searching, that is. Any sources I should disregard? | 18:50 |
| fenn | i generally ignore anything written by forrest higgs | 18:51 |
| fenn | things have changed a lot in the last year i'm sure, so you really should ask in #reprap instead | 18:51 |
| fenn | also, start on the extruder first | 18:52 |
| fenn | then just let it run for like 10 hours and make sure it keeps working | 18:53 |
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| JayDugger | I will repeat my question on #reprap, as you suggest. I asked here first; ##hplusroadmap has less noise than #reprap. | 19:03 |
| kanzure | i'd be happy to amp up the noise | 19:09 |
| kanzure | pharmaceutical patent prize funds | 19:13 |
| kanzure | http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/hqs6w/sen_bernie_sanders_has_introduced_a_bill_to/ | 19:13 |
| fenn | prizes don't actually work, as we've seen | 19:17 |
| JayDugger | Which failures and which successes do you have in mind? | 19:17 |
| fenn | the real problem is the whole FDA approval process | 19:18 |
| fenn | there should be varying levels of approval based on how much testing it's had | 19:18 |
| fenn | that way each new drug doesn't need a billion dollar up front investment | 19:18 |
| fenn | JayDugger: specifically i was thinking of the x-prize and the gada prize | 19:19 |
| fenn | (both failures in my mind) | 19:19 |
| JayDugger | Fair enough. I disagree, but history will judge. | 19:20 |
| kanzure | gada prize is just some dude with $20k who wants to exploit open source development in-progress-anyway to make his prizes seem successful | 19:20 |
| JayDugger | Good night, everyone. | 19:21 |
| fenn | "But of course, the problem doesn't lie with the patents or the people - the problem lies in the nasty warping effect on every human endeavor that stems from the concepts of money, profit, trade and competition." | 19:21 |
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| kanzure | there's about to be a tipping point re: software patents | 19:23 |
| kanzure | redhat was too early to the party | 19:23 |
| kanzure | and swpat.org seems like it might be helping | 19:23 |
| fenn | why do you say that? | 19:23 |
| kanzure | what we need is a global registry of people pledging to ignore or help change the patent system | 19:23 |
| kanzure | because of developer mindshare/agreement | 19:24 |
| kanzure | if the vast majority of programmers agree- in a public way- not to use the patent system, or that it should be pressured to change, then that's effectively lobbying/protesting | 19:24 |
| kanzure | protesting by not-using is sorta bad though because everyone else can be patenting all this shit in the mean time.. | 19:24 |
| kanzure | at this point, though, i'd say there's at least a few million supporters | 19:25 |
| kanzure | eff should run a damn registry campaign, or something | 19:25 |
| kanzure | this is particularly interesting as a hook into hardware patent reform | 19:27 |
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| kanzure | "Three years ago I attended an "open-source CEO" dinner, at which I was seated between the CEOs of SourceForge and CollabNet (founder and principal proponent of the Subversion VCS). I asked the CollabNet CEO what he thought about Git, and he was dismissive, indicating that Subversion had already won." | 20:03 |
| kanzure | "I then asked the SourceForge CEO if he knew about GitHub; he was vaguely familiar with them, but appeared utterly unconcerned. I thought to myself, All the battles have been fought and lost, and these guys don't even know there's a war." | 20:04 |
| QuantumG | heh | 20:25 |
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| foucist | holy shit.. feb 2008 sihnce the formation of github. | 23:37 |
| foucist | time flies | 23:37 |
| JayDugger | Good morning, everyone. | 23:38 |
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