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| foucist | fenn: i hope not.. it's a good manga.. but movie nahhh ;) | 03:03 |
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| foucist | 2 hours of nothing happening | 03:03 |
| foucist | endless walking | 03:03 |
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| kanzure | you guys are boring :( | 08:13 |
| kanzure | man stephen is getting more and more full of himself: http://media.economist.com/images/images-magazine/2011/06/04/tq/20110604_tqd020.jpg | 08:32 |
| kanzure | Alfredo Dubra, Yusufu Sulai, Jennifer L. Norris, Robert F. Cooper, Adam M. Dubis, David R. Williams,, Joseph Carroll. Noninvasive imaging of the human rod photoreceptor mosaic using a confocal adaptive optics scanning ophthalmoscope. Biomedical Optics Express, 2011; 2 (7): 1864 DOI: 10.1364/BOE.2.001864 | 08:35 |
| kanzure | http://dx.doi.org/10.1364/BOE.2.001864 | 08:36 |
| kanzure | Alfredo Dubra, Yusufu Sulai. Reflective afocal broadband adaptive optics scanning ophthalmoscope. Biomedical Optics Express, 2011; 2 (6): 1757 DOI: 10.1364/BOE.2.001757 | 08:36 |
| kanzure | http://dx.doi.org/10.1364/BOE.2.001757 | 08:36 |
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| foucist | we're boring? | 09:09 |
| foucist | i'm speculating in bitcoins right now.. wheeee | 09:10 |
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| kanzure | foucist: still boring | 09:17 |
| foucist | yes, it's terribly boring | 09:18 |
| uniqanomaly | foucist: http://tan.staafl.net/2011/06/1-bitcoin-10-000-dollars/ | 09:26 |
| foucist | http://http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2011/06/08/a-brief-history-of-the-corporation-1600-to-2100 | 09:27 |
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| kanzure | bre/colbert http://gallery.me.com/lrodrigu/100420 | 09:47 |
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| foucist | kanzure: the corporation link was for you since you're into technology :P | 10:01 |
| archels | heh @ Wolfram collage | 10:01 |
| archels | I watched "Flight from Death - The Quest for Immortality" (1.5 hour documentary) last night. | 10:02 |
| archels | Pretty well made, although scarcely any mention of future technological implications. :( | 10:03 |
| kanzure | soon you too will learn to be as jaded as the rest of us about media/documentaries like that | 10:03 |
| archels | No no, this was when documentaries were still good. It's 4:3 format and everything. | 10:04 |
| archels | I've seen (and aborted) plenty of crap after downloading some 200 GB of "science documentaries". | 10:05 |
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| archels | mhm, to post to sl4 or exi... | 11:08 |
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| kanzure | archels: sl4 is dead | 11:12 |
| kanzure | exi is useless | 11:12 |
| kanzure | my vote is: neither | 11:12 |
| kanzure | what do you have? | 11:13 |
| archels | oh shit, I forgot sl4 is dead. ack. | 11:13 |
| archels | Wanted some discussion on this paper I talked about here a few days ago. | 11:13 |
| archels | exi seems more for posting news than having discussions on. | 11:17 |
| archels | I should know, Eugen Leitl is a familiar name in my inbox. :\ | 11:18 |
| kanzure | eugen runs a nice little news service called 'transhuman tech' | 11:19 |
| archels | ah shoot, I must be confusing things then. | 11:19 |
| kanzure | http://postbiota.org/mailman/listinfo/tt | 11:19 |
| kanzure | archives: http://postbiota.org/pipermail/tt/ | 11:19 |
| archels | Yeah, I'm subscribed to that. | 11:19 |
| kanzure | what? "Bugherd, last time I used it, did a js embed widget for website/design changes/feedback." | 11:22 |
| kanzure | a/b testing for outbound sales calls. hah (volta) | 11:23 |
| kanzure | hrm i guess a family-login for uploading photos makes sense | 11:25 |
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| ybit | "The brand name Droid is a trademark of Lucasfilm licensed to Verizon Wireless." | 14:25 |
| kanzure | yep | 14:37 |
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| ybit | just getting around to buying one | 14:42 |
| kanzure | there's a lot of newer stuff out on the market now | 14:44 |
| ybit | i'm going to get an old droid x | 14:48 |
| ybit | ~$70, $10 activation fee, and $30/mo data plan | 14:49 |
| jrayhawk | n900s keep showing up on craigslist for, like, $125 | 15:07 |
| jrayhawk | oh, verizon, nevermind | 15:08 |
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| fenn | how did sl4 die? spasms of self-recrimination or just apathy? | 15:27 |
| kanzure | eliezer jumped ship to overcomingbias/lesswrong | 15:27 |
| fenn | that's a blog, right? | 15:27 |
| kanzure | to be fair, mailing lists aren't really where most of the "internet action" happens at anyway | 15:27 |
| kanzure | yes | 15:27 |
| kanzure | lesswrong gets a fairly significant amount of traffic | 15:27 |
| kanzure | from hackernews (i hate when i see this shit popping up on that site, too) | 15:27 |
| AlonzoTG | really? | 15:27 |
| fenn | but the focus of lesswrong is more about mathematical masturbation than technology, iirc | 15:28 |
| kanzure | yes | 15:28 |
| kanzure | "rationalism" | 15:28 |
| AlonzoTG | You mean to say that people actually use FORUMS?!?!?! even though there is no such thing as a time-efficient way to use forums.... | 15:28 |
| kanzure | "Why i am more rational than your mom" | 15:28 |
| kanzure | blogs are not 'forums' | 15:28 |
| fenn | i never use forums, except when searching for answers on google | 15:28 |
| kanzure | fenn: there's a lot of people who are very accustomed to forums | 15:28 |
| kanzure | that's why they are always invading mailing lists saying "HUR DUR I CAN SETUP PHPBB FOR YOU" | 15:28 |
| fenn | some people really like the fact that you can sort things into categories | 15:28 |
| kanzure | but these motherfuckers don't really mean it | 15:29 |
| fenn | i had hoped wave would solve the whole web/mailing list bridging problem | 15:29 |
| fenn | but google let me down :( | 15:29 |
| kanzure | jake was the only one who did the mail2forum gateway | 15:29 |
| kanzure | and then nobody cared (on the diybio list) | 15:29 |
| kanzure | the reality is that people like being admins and moderators on forums | 15:29 |
| fenn | is it still running? | 15:29 |
| kanzure | yes | 15:29 |
| kanzure | oops | 15:30 |
| fenn | diybio.biz/forum ? | 15:30 |
| kanzure | no that's jonano | 15:30 |
| fenn | heh 0 posts | 15:30 |
| kanzure | http://o-bio.org/ is jake stewart's mail2forum gateway for diybio | 15:30 |
| kanzure | but he didn't pay his bills? wtf | 15:30 |
| kanzure | it was up last month.. since 2009 | 15:30 |
| kanzure | yeah there's tons of others.. tito ran a forum, pearlbiotech had another one, diybio.org had a custom piece of shit, | 15:31 |
| kanzure | diybioforums.org (jeswin?) | 15:31 |
| kanzure | biopunk.org (splicer_) | 15:31 |
| fenn | okay i dont care about lots of forums | 15:31 |
| kanzure | here: | 15:31 |
| kanzure | http://groups.google.com/group/diybio/browse_thread/thread/17b814fe72528c3c | 15:31 |
| kanzure | "Everyone and their mom's dog wants to convert mailing lists to forums or the | 15:32 |
| kanzure | other way around-- and it's funny, because Jake has been the only one to | 15:32 |
| kanzure | actually bother with a mail2forum gateway for diybio. Annnd then nobody used | 15:32 |
| kanzure | it." | 15:32 |
| fenn | hum, internet is flaky here lately | 15:33 |
| QuantumG | thank god. If people responded to a mailing list like they do to a forum I'd unsubscribe. | 15:33 |
| kanzure | +1 | 15:34 |
| kanzure | +1 | 15:34 |
| kanzure | +1 | 15:34 |
| kanzure | lol :) [THIS USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST] | 15:34 |
| kanzure | And other varities of crap. i agree. | 15:34 |
| kanzure | fenn: i am really extremely bored today | 15:38 |
| kanzure | can you help | 15:38 |
| QuantumG | I'm 1/3 of the way through the Atlas Shrugged audio book. I'm glad I didn't try to read this, and yet still impressed with the work. | 15:39 |
| kanzure | she was an ok/good writer, yeah | 15:39 |
| kanzure | but the ideas..heh | 15:39 |
| QuantumG | heh, I think the opposite. I'm impressed with the clarity of her ideology, but feel she can't write for shit. | 15:40 |
| QuantumG | this is written like a soap opera. Like it should have been made into a daytime serial. | 15:42 |
| jrayhawk | fucking collectivist, talking about Ayn Rand when it's actually a collection of self-motivated individual cells | 15:42 |
| QuantumG | I keep waiting for Rearden's evil twin brother to show up.. they occasionally talk about a Danish pirate.. in the soap operate that'd probably be him. | 15:45 |
| fenn | quantumg's opinion is the more standard interpretation | 15:45 |
| ybit | fenn: why did wave let you down? | 15:46 |
| ybit | s/wave/google | 15:46 |
| fenn | because they canceled the project before releasing 1.0 | 15:46 |
| jrayhawk | are they not entitled to the pyruvate of their glycosome? | 15:46 |
| fenn | <_< | 15:47 |
| ybit | hrm, i liked it, they only cancelled because no one understood wtf it was | 15:47 |
| fenn | it was a premature hype issue | 15:47 |
| ybit | i guess | 15:47 |
| QuantumG | ahh wave.. the failure of poor technology, horrible rollout and unrecognized existing competition. | 15:47 |
| fenn | they didnt have a solid base to demo from, but still invited a small number of developers, causing a big pile up at the entrance | 15:48 |
| QuantumG | apparently they still use it internally | 15:48 |
| fenn | meanwhile etherpad is becoming quite popular | 15:48 |
| ybit | the only problem wave ever gave me was it would slow down after writing quite a bit of text | 15:48 |
| kanzure | ayn rand is considered dangerous | 15:48 |
| kanzure | please don't become an 'objectivist' | 15:48 |
| QuantumG | heh | 15:49 |
| jrayhawk | a ciggarette is like the flame of creativity; toke up, dude | 15:49 |
| kanzure | i wonder if the audio tape version also has the random ads for her institute in the middle of it | 15:49 |
| kanzure | ybit: you mean their ui? | 15:49 |
| kanzure | ybit: the wave server project is still going on.. | 15:49 |
| ybit | yar | 15:50 |
| kanzure | wave-the-server/wave-the-protocol | 15:50 |
| ybit | and yar | 15:50 |
| kanzure | someone should make a bitcoin wave | 15:50 |
| kanzure | where everyone has to pay a bitcoin to the person in front of them | 15:50 |
| kanzure | or somethingg | 15:50 |
| ybit | i used it a lot for work until the boss man told me to start using pen and paper | 15:50 |
| QuantumG | have you seen the latest success in the bitcoin hype campaign? | 15:50 |
| kanzure | if it's well-crafted, it can topple both wave and bitcoin | 15:50 |
| kanzure | no? | 15:50 |
| fenn | and then victory will be ours | 15:51 |
| ybit | \o\ | 15:51 |
| ybit | /o/ | 15:51 |
| QuantumG | http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/08/us-financial-bitcoins-idUSTRE7573T320110608 | 15:51 |
| kanzure | that was from a few days ago | 15:51 |
| kanzure | old news by now | 15:51 |
| QuantumG | yeah.. Senators will believe anything won't they? | 15:51 |
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| ybit | i've been speaking with a guy who works with strages | 15:52 |
| ybit | he mentioned that he might be able to help me with fetching iso docs | 15:53 |
| kanzure | i still don't get it ybit | 15:53 |
| kanzure | i've given you everything | 15:53 |
| kanzure | and more :( | 15:53 |
| ybit | cept the protocols | 15:53 |
| kanzure | the what? | 15:53 |
| ybit | you have been giving some good hugs | 15:53 |
| kanzure | do you want a giant pdf saying "YOU'VE FOUND THE GOLD!!" ? | 15:54 |
| ybit | was told yesterday they are ansi docs based on iso, so i don't know how that's going to work out | 15:54 |
| ybit | yesplz | 15:54 |
| ybit | onto other news... | 15:55 |
| ybit | "space program in a box" | 15:55 |
| kanzure | .. no let's solve this iso shit right now | 15:55 |
| kanzure | brb | 15:55 |
| kanzure | phone :( worst timing ever | 15:55 |
| QuantumG | doc fight! | 15:55 |
| fenn | supposedly the actual docs look just like the express files, but with more formatting around them | 15:56 |
| fenn | from this i'd conclude that the express files are the "actual" standard | 15:56 |
| fenn | i think this is a good thing from standards compliance perspective, but unfortunate for the implementor who doesn't know that much about computational geometry | 15:57 |
| ybit | i can't really do anything for awhile anyway, so there's no point in a document throwdown | 15:57 |
| ybit | s/throwdown/fight | 15:58 |
| kanzure | yes, listen to fenn you will! | 15:59 |
| kanzure | docs are easy to understand from a computational geometry perspective, harder for someone who doesn't know about writing languages, parsers and parser parsers | 15:59 |
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| QuantumG | kanzure, I sometimes forget that you and I are a rare breed | 16:01 |
| kanzure | fat and retarded? | 16:01 |
| QuantumG | no no, that's common enough | 16:01 |
| ybit | i was scraping dirt for metal today and started thinking it would be neat if you had a distro specifically made to walk some org through the technical process of throwing stuff into space, but we've already discussed this idea once me thinks | 16:01 |
| kanzure | QuantumG: i don't actually think of myself (or you) as fat or retarded | 16:02 |
| kanzure | just clarifying :) | 16:03 |
| QuantumG | thanks | 16:03 |
| * ybit claims the retarded title | 16:03 | |
| QuantumG | I remember taking "the compiler class" at uni and being surprised that the entire interest in the class amounted to 8 people, half of whom were confused as to why they took the class. | 16:04 |
| kanzure | meh you're fault for going to school | 16:04 |
| kanzure | you are | 16:04 |
| kanzure | uh *your | 16:04 |
| QuantumG | uni was the best 10 years of my life ;) | 16:05 |
| ybit | space program in a box, essentially == civilization seed talk from 09 | 16:09 |
| kanzure | what about it | 16:09 |
| ybit | just thought it was a good idea worth pursuing in life | 16:10 |
| ybit | anyone have exp with windaq? | 16:10 |
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| kanzure | encoder assembly machine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbkylfpWve0 | 16:20 |
| ybit | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agencia_Espacial_Mexicana :: Budget: MXN$100 million (~8,500,000USD) | 16:25 |
| * ybit thought it was bigger | 16:25 | |
| kanzure | 'copyright violation uploaded by superkuh2' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu-pWSFw5TQ | 16:27 |
| kanzure | what.. | 16:27 |
| fenn | i've found a new source of inspiration for my diy keyboard design http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Printing_Telegraph.jpg | 16:28 |
| fenn | now that's a console (literally) | 16:28 |
| QuantumG | presumably you use pedals as shift/function keys | 16:29 |
| kanzure | my consoles have to be at least 30m tall and 20m wide | 16:30 |
| kanzure | or else it just doesn't work form e. | 16:30 |
| kanzure | for me. | 16:30 |
| QuantumG | oh, another way of describing Atlas Shrugged is that it's like a long thread on a mailing list. | 16:38 |
| QuantumG | with multi-page rants in response to single comments. | 16:38 |
| AlonzoTG | =P | 16:48 |
| fenn | it's like a tooth that hurts whenever you poke it but you can't stop | 16:48 |
| kanzure | did you ever get that fixed | 16:52 |
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| kanzure | paul has taken up his complaints with nathan now.. | 17:17 |
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| QuantumG | umm.. why can't I find when the Bacteriophage structure was first determined? | 17:19 |
| kanzure | what do you mean by structure? crystallography? | 17:23 |
| kanzure | or phage genes? | 17:23 |
| QuantumG | I mean "what it looks like" | 17:24 |
| kanzure | crystallography. | 17:25 |
| CryptoQuick | xrayz | 17:25 |
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| kanzure | heh buckminster fuller dropped out of college. nice. | 21:54 |
| foucist | all smart guys drop out of college | 21:59 |
| foucist | it's the stupid ones that finish | 21:59 |
| foucist | heh | 21:59 |
| mayko | i knew i should have quit while i was ahead :( | 22:08 |
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| kanzure | foucist: i'mma be the best of all of yall and drop out of college fifteen times, dammit | 22:32 |
| AlonzoTG | fouc: agreed. | 22:37 |
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