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| AlonzoTG | http://arbornet.org/~flamoot/telepathic-critterdrug.html | 00:04 |
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| kanzure | AlonzoTG: please don't link to that | 00:32 |
| kanzure | the last guy who did got banned | 00:32 |
| kanzure | (particularly flamoot) | 00:32 |
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| AlonzoTG | huh? What? | 00:33 |
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| thesnark | hey kanzure | 08:18 |
| thesnark | happy birthday | 08:18 |
| thesnark | (ha ha) | 08:18 |
| thesnark | I'm disappointed you gave up on your quest | 08:19 |
| thesnark | Your quest to have an eternal birthday, that is | 08:19 |
| thesnark | I suppose you could write a script to change your fb birthday every 24 hours | 08:19 |
| thesnark | hmm | 08:19 |
| thesnark | maybe I'll do that | 08:19 |
| thesnark | damn, facebook api doesn't support changing user info ={ | 08:23 |
| thesnark | I guess I'm using curl | 08:23 |
| thesnark | muahaha | 08:23 |
| thesnark | damn they're blocking curl | 08:27 |
| thesnark | gonna have to forge browser string | 08:28 |
| thesnark | yay, --user-agent | 08:30 |
| thesnark | wat | 08:32 |
| thesnark | still blocked it | 08:32 |
| uniqanomaly | http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/5588/trollt.png THIS ONE | 08:48 |
| uniqanomaly | erm, wrong # | 08:48 |
| uniqanomaly | whatever | 08:48 |
| uniqanomaly | funny troll anyway | 08:48 |
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| kanzure | thesnark: they have a csrf token that you need to scrape before you submit the data | 10:27 |
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| kanzure | hrm what was that most cited paper of all time? it was cited something like 10-12k times | 12:35 |
| kanzure | i think it was a bioinformatics paper? | 12:35 |
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| kanzure | "he original paper by Altschul, et al.[1] was the most highly cited paper published in the 1990s.[5" | 12:36 |
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| kanzure | wow i was way off | 12:47 |
| kanzure | http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2671390 | 12:47 |
| kanzure | "The number of citations of this JBC article is closer to 300K, so it has a safe order of magnitude more citations than the BLAST paper." | 12:47 |
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| kanzure | nchaimov: just fyi, your password is in the mtgox leak | 13:18 |
| kanzure | other people we know in the leak: | 13:19 |
| kanzure | thomas mccabe | 13:19 |
| kanzure | stephen reed | 13:19 |
| kanzure | bkero: you too | 13:19 |
| kanzure | elmom: and you | 13:19 |
| kanzure | atrus6 (from om) | 13:20 |
| kanzure | wware (from nanorex) | 13:21 |
| kanzure | ian daniher | 13:21 |
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| kanzure | atrus6 was member 691, that's sorta cool | 13:22 |
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| Utopiah | (Measuring the Evolution of the Drivers of Technological Innovation in the Patent Record http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1162/artl_a_00022 ALife May 2011) | 13:31 |
| nsh | hmm | 13:32 |
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| uniqanomaly | http://i.imgur.com/RqPhx.png | 17:55 |
| kanzure | what is it? | 17:59 |
| ybit | http://groups.google.com/group/diykeyboard | 18:26 |
| ybit | forget if this has already been mentioned | 18:26 |
| ybit | http://groups.google.com/group/diykeyboard/browse_thread/thread/a76709eccf351f8b | 18:26 |
| ybit | just thought it was interesting that people are developing hardware and releasing it on github regardless of some community to unite all the open hardware communities | 18:27 |
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| kanzure | ybit: github is fine if you know what you're doing | 18:43 |
| kanzure | in fact, it gets in the way if you know what you're doing (sometimes) | 18:43 |
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| fenn | wtf this graph violates causality http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/20501_large_BitCoin_Transactions_Gox_2.jpg | 20:08 |
| kanzure | fenn: transactions were rolled back | 20:17 |
| kanzure | but yeah, since the passwords have been discovered then i suspect someone has access to more | 20:18 |
| kanzure | *to more capabilities on the server | 20:18 |
| fenn | i'm still not clear on what actually happenned | 20:19 |
| fenn | how did they set the price to $0.01? | 20:20 |
| kanzure | you should probably ask in #bitcoin | 20:20 |
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| epitron | hahah | 20:49 |
| epitron | is this lulzsec? | 20:49 |
| epitron | i love that bitcoin is being owned | 20:49 |
| epitron | it's so overdue | 20:49 |
| bkero | owned? | 20:49 |
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| bkero | What about bitcon is being owned? | 20:49 |
| epitron | well, it's a P2P network | 20:49 |
| epitron | with an unencrypted wallet | 20:50 |
| epitron | and lots of people running windows | 20:50 |
| epitron | so when you connect to the network, you're given 150 IP's to hack | 20:50 |
| bkero | My wallet is encrypted ;) | 20:50 |
| QuantumG | and the wallet doesn't even have password protection | 20:50 |
| bkero | Sort of | 20:50 |
| * epitron hacks bkero | 20:50 | |
| bkero | So it's not bitcoin that's hacked | 20:50 |
| bkero | It's just your shitty setup | 20:50 |
| epitron | yes, i'm sorry i was not precise | 20:50 |
| kanzure | bkero: your mtgox account was leaked | 20:50 |
| QuantumG | in this case it was actually the website people use to do trades that was hacked | 20:51 |
| epitron | the bitcoins were hacked | 20:51 |
| bkero | kanzure: I know. Nothing bad came of it. | 20:51 |
| kanzure | k just making sure you know | 20:51 |
| epitron | QuantumG: hahaha | 20:51 |
| epitron | that's funny too | 20:51 |
| bkero | You're the fifth person to tell me. I knew last night when the db dump went online. | 20:51 |
| bkero | There are plenty of other bitcoin exchanges | 20:51 |
| epitron | bkero: btw your mtgox account was hacked. also we need cover sheets on the TPS reports now | 20:52 |
| QuantumG | this is all so familiar.. does anyone remember when Bruce Schneider was running around equating encryption to security? And eventually he came around to recognizing that encryption is just a tiny part of the whole security equation | 20:52 |
| bkero | I didn't have any money or coins in mtgox, sent ACH transfers a week ago | 20:52 |
| epitron | Schneierer? | 20:52 |
| epitron | that seems like a pretty rookie mistake | 20:52 |
| epitron | when did he say that? | 20:52 |
| QuantumG | yah | 20:52 |
| QuantumG | a decade ago | 20:53 |
| epitron | hmmm | 20:53 |
| epitron | was his crime that he was pushing too hard in one direction? | 20:53 |
| epitron | or that he actually claimed that the only thing you need to worry about is encryption? | 20:53 |
| epitron | because he's not an idiot :) | 20:53 |
| QuantumG | 2003 was when he basically discovered that cryptography isn't a magic sauce that makes you secure | 20:53 |
| epitron | interesting | 20:54 |
| epitron | how did he get popular btw? | 20:54 |
| epitron | i never followed him back in the day | 20:54 |
| QuantumG | cause he's awesome I suppose | 20:54 |
| epitron | he has an awesome beard :D | 20:54 |
| epitron | BEARDS ARE IMPORTANT FOR SECURITY | 20:55 |
| QuantumG | true | 20:55 |
| kanzure | something about books? | 20:55 |
| * epitron STARES SERIOUSLY | 20:55 | |
| bkero | You're welcome to come hack me. :) 50.53.98.213 "" : 149.55000000, | 20:55 |
| QuantumG | Applied Cryptography was probably the first book that explained "snakeoil crytography" | 20:55 |
| epitron | kanzure: i was just wondering if he's one of those doods who marketed himself into popularity, and then became an expert... | 20:55 |
| epitron | or if he was an expert and then became popular | 20:55 |
| kanzure | i'm not sure how one would declare himself a security expert | 20:56 |
| QuantumG | nah.. he was a boring academic before '94 and then was instantly popular | 20:56 |
| kanzure | i know a thing or two but does that make me an expert? | 20:56 |
| epitron | kanzure: you just repeat what other people say | 20:56 |
| epitron | and you show up to conferences | 20:56 |
| epitron | and you put your face everywhere | 20:56 |
| epitron | and you start a website | 20:56 |
| kanzure | if i wrote the specs for https, x.509, ssh, gpg, pgp, does that make me an expert? | 20:56 |
| epitron | and you blog | 20:56 |
| QuantumG | become a "thought leader" | 20:56 |
| epitron | yes | 20:56 |
| epitron | becoming a thought leader is something you can buy now | 20:57 |
| kanzure | twitter bots? | 20:57 |
| epitron | influence is automated now | 20:57 |
| epitron | there's lots of tools :D | 20:57 |
| kanzure | yep | 20:57 |
| epitron | someone called wildfire media found me on github and offered me a job | 20:58 |
| epitron | i spit up a little in my mouth when i read their site | 20:58 |
| kanzure | yeah there's lots of those | 20:58 |
| epitron | and sadly, a lot of people in #ruby-lang work there :( | 20:58 |
| kanzure | "social automation" suites | 20:58 |
| epitron | UGH | 20:58 |
| epitron | corruption :( | 20:58 |
| bkero | kanzure: wrote the specs? No, you'd need to have written the implementations too ;) | 20:58 |
| kanzure | have you seen the automatic astroturfers? | 20:58 |
| epitron | astroturfing? whassat? | 20:59 |
| kanzure | Astroturfing is a form of advocacy often in support of a political or corporate agenda designed to give the appearance of a "grassroots" movement | 20:59 |
| epitron | or do you mean real life astroturf? :) | 20:59 |
| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing | 20:59 |
| QuantumG | faking a grassroots movement | 20:59 |
| epitron | ah | 20:59 |
| epitron | the tea party | 20:59 |
| epitron | :D | 20:59 |
| kanzure | basically, a few thousand reddit/digg/facebook accounts | 20:59 |
| epitron | hahah that's a great name for it | 20:59 |
| epitron | sock puppets! | 20:59 |
| kanzure | but automated | 20:59 |
| bkero | Astroturfing = providing bogus reviews of your own products | 20:59 |
| kanzure | i'm a little surprised when i see people talking about manual astroturfing | 21:00 |
| kanzure | that would be way too time consuming imho | 21:00 |
| bkero | kanzure: happens all the time, look at restaurants on google maps | 21:00 |
| epitron | coming up with catchy names for things is such a great way to destroy them | 21:00 |
| epitron | (for evil things) | 21:00 |
| QuantumG | I think bitcoin is being pushed by an astroturf program.. but it's a very smart one. | 21:01 |
| kanzure | nah bitcion is very likely a manual astroturfing initiative | 21:01 |
| epitron | i think bitcoin is a horrible economic model | 21:01 |
| kanzure | *bitcoin | 21:01 |
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| epitron | it's like a fiat currency, except the money is created by wasting electricity | 21:01 |
| epitron | so it's less efficient | 21:02 |
| epitron | obviously it doesn't inflate like crazy | 21:02 |
| QuantumG | yes, it's manual.. but it's got a strategy behind it.. the demonization is being deliberately pursued to get "rebel adoption" | 21:02 |
| epitron | but i think there are better solutions | 21:02 |
| kanzure | http://fundingtrends.org/ | 21:05 |
| QuantumG | religions should try this. Put together some fake "Mothers Against Sunday School" organizations and go protest outside churches on Sundays. Make sure all the kids hear about it. Sunday school attendance will shoot up. | 21:05 |
| kanzure | http://fundingtrends.org/?keywords=eeg%2C+nootropics | 21:05 |
| kanzure | that was via Alexander Zhavoronkov <alex@pnano.com> | 21:07 |
| kanzure | "stem cells" is at $2.4T | 21:07 |
| kanzure | with a "total funding" of $13.6T | 21:08 |
| kanzure | cancer is about 5x http://fundingtrends.org/?keywords=stem+cells%2C+cancer%2C+immune | 21:08 |
| epitron | whoa, this is a cool site | 21:09 |
| kanzure | $70T for cancer? | 21:09 |
| epitron | where does it get its data from? | 21:09 |
| kanzure | epitron: http://fundingtrends.org/sources.html | 21:09 |
| kanzure | you can call the author: + 1 626 593 7957 | 21:10 |
| kanzure | or skype: zhavoronkov | 21:10 |
| epitron | haha | 21:11 |
| epitron | awesome | 21:12 |
| QuantumG | http://quantumg.net/mydesk.jpg | 21:13 |
| kanzure | i submitted it over here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2672837 | 21:13 |
| kanzure | upvote dat shitz | 21:13 |
| kanzure | hm i was registered on news.ycombinator.com '1234 days ago' | 21:16 |
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| QuantumG | "The reported plasma focus operates at the lowest voltage among all reported plasma foci so far. Moreover the cost of capacitor bank used for plasma focus is nearly 20 U.S. dollars making it very cheap." | 23:51 |
| QuantumG | http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freeabs_all.jsp?arnumber=5539755 | 23:51 |
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