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| kanzure | ybit: stop spending so much time schooling | 10:56 |
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| delinquentme | YEAaaaa hawwwws | 12:36 |
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| kanzure | hrmm | 15:19 |
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| kanzure | someone say something interesting | 17:32 |
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| klafka | something interesting | 17:35 |
| kanzure | shit.. | 17:35 |
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| superkuh | The cygnus X-1 black hole accretion disk seems to have switched into a state of low hard x-ray brightness this week. | 17:50 |
| superkuh | http://heastro.phys.lsu.edu/gbm/image.php?sourceimage=CYGX-1 | 17:51 |
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| kanzure | hi everyonemines | 18:29 |
| kanzure | which anime was that? | 18:29 |
| everyonemines | Hello. | 18:29 |
| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayonara,_Zetsubou-Sensei ? | 18:29 |
| everyonemines | yes | 18:29 |
| kanzure | superkuh: that counts, thanks | 18:32 |
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| kanzure | fenn: you doing anything fun? | 18:48 |
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| everyonemines | Is this channel based around open source hardware and DIY bio, or what? | 20:42 |
| kanzure | yep pretty much | 20:42 |
| everyonemines | any ocaml coders here? | 20:43 |
| everyonemines | Well, | 20:48 |
| everyonemines | I'm not really into open source hardware or DIY bio in particular, but I do know a fair amount about maufacturing and biology | 20:48 |
| everyonemines | and I'm not into lesswrong's stuff either but I'm in that channel too | 20:48 |
| everyonemines | because it's a place you can find smart people. | 20:48 |
| everyonemines | That's my interest. | 20:48 |
| kanzure | it's the sort of 'smart people' that you would want to play chess with, though.. not 'design me a thermonuclear warhead that fits inside of my iphone' people | 20:49 |
| everyonemines | Even if you use americium you'll fail at that. | 20:49 |
| kanzure | :) | 20:49 |
| everyonemines | ...so maybe that's an appropriate metaphor | 20:49 |
| everyonemines | With software, installation is relatively easy. For hardware, "installation" of a pattern is harder than "coding" the manufacturing process. That's the essential difference, I think, but it's enough to make open source work for only one. | 20:51 |
| kanzure | are you familiar with package managers on linux | 20:52 |
| everyonemines | And bio is to me fundamentally a capital intensive area. You can do code on your home computer but you need lots of capital to be google too. It's just a difference in scale. | 20:53 |
| everyonemines | kanzure: I know how package managers work, not on linux though. | 20:53 |
| everyonemines | I use os x. | 20:53 |
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| kanzure | everyonemines: i want one of those for hardware | 20:55 |
| kanzure | everyonemines: http://diyhpl.us/cgit/skdb | 20:55 |
| kanzure | on an unrelated note most people get a kick out of this: http://diyhpl.us/cgit/nanoengineer | 20:55 |
| QuantumG | I got banned from another forum http://itsaboutliberty.com/ ironic.. I guess it's not about liberty :) | 20:55 |
| everyonemines | Yeah I saw that link. But while pushing for a standard _format_ for describing products seems reasonable... | 20:55 |
| everyonemines | the "compilation/install" isn't something that people have hardware for personally. | 20:56 |
| joshcryer | QuantumG, heh, you're wasting too much time on politics. | 20:56 |
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| everyonemines | And since it's expensive, you want to be running that continuously. That means groups of people, which means corporations for organization. | 20:56 |
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| @kanzure | it's not about liberty you jerk! | 20:56 |
| joshcryer | heh. op abuse isn't funny. | 20:56 |
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| joshcryer | people take that seriously | 20:56 |
| kanzure | i think he's also an op so it all evens out | 20:57 |
| kanzure | everyonemines: not everyone has a compiler for software either | 20:57 |
| kanzure | everyonemines: i don't think it's reasonable to assume that everyone all over the world needs to be a hardware developer | 20:57 |
| kanzure | or to use machine tools | 20:57 |
| joshcryer | I wanted to ask him about his project | 20:57 |
| joshcryer | he was talking about welding stuff on twitter | 20:57 |
| kanzure | he'll come back | 20:57 |
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| QuantumG | nice | 20:58 |
| kanzure | wb QuantumG | 20:58 |
| joshcryer | heh | 20:58 |
| everyonemines | kanzure: Everyone can install software, though. You only need to compile it once per architecture. | 20:58 |
| kanzure | so, welding project? | 20:58 |
| everyonemines | Which isn't a big issue. | 20:58 |
| QuantumG | yeah, I'm going through too much argon | 20:58 |
| kanzure | everyonemines: gentoo compiles it as many times as it wants *shrug* | 20:59 |
| QuantumG | guessing there must be something wrong with my regulator.. or my expectations | 20:59 |
| joshcryer | what are you making? | 21:03 |
| joshcryer | other than tables | 21:03 |
| QuantumG | right now, a hand pump for hydrotesting | 21:05 |
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| QuantumG | next, pressure vessels | 21:05 |
| joshcryer | oh cool are you working for idiom? ;P | 21:07 |
| QuantumG | nope.. just seeing how hard it is | 21:07 |
| kanzure | Stee|: you should also ask in here | 21:14 |
| kanzure | Stee| is wondering about areas of underrepresented mathematical representation in additive manufacturing | 21:15 |
| Stee| | specifically physics based modeling | 21:15 |
| kanzure | no takers? | 21:19 |
| kanzure | but yeah metamaterials would be nice | 21:19 |
| Stee| | okay, cool | 21:19 |
| Stee| | my lab got the most fucking cool shit in ever the other day | 21:20 |
| Stee| | only piece of equipment in the US | 21:20 |
| Stee| | it's a all in one integrated CNC micromachining suite | 21:20 |
| kanzure | nanowire bits ? | 21:20 |
| Stee| | doubt it, feature size is like 3microns | 21:21 |
| Stee| | it's pretty much the most advanced micromachining setup that the people who actually build this shit are willing to sell | 21:21 |
| Stee| | instead of keeping proprietary | 21:21 |
| Stee| | fucking zaibatsus. | 21:21 |
| kanzure | Stee|: it would also be cool to be able to model the dynamics (solid->fluid transition) going on in the nozzle | 21:26 |
| Stee| | Hmm | 21:26 |
| Stee| | interesting point | 21:26 |
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