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| kanzure | jrayhawk: you had a timeout :V | 01:04 |
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| kanzure | i am disappointed | 01:04 |
| jrayhawk | I had one yesterday, too! | 01:06 |
| jrayhawk | XFS is a little screwy on systems with a lot of memory | 01:07 |
| jrayhawk | it'd be nice if Linux exposed something barrier-like to userspace. | 01:07 |
| kanzure | what is "a lot" in your case | 01:07 |
| jrayhawk | sixteen gigs on this one | 01:08 |
| jrayhawk | which is sixteen gigs of transactions XFS is willing to build up if I/O can't keep up until some userspace program does a sync and forces a huge long flush | 01:09 |
| jrayhawk | while most of the time that userspace program really only wants an I/O barrier rather than a full sync to disk | 01:10 |
| kanzure | this filesystem seems to only work for well designed userspace programs | 01:10 |
| jrayhawk | this filesystem seems to only work well for IRIX, which had a *good* storage layer | 01:11 |
| jrayhawk | I don't really think you can *have* a well designed userspace program in Linux | 01:13 |
| kanzure | tell it like a story! | 01:14 |
| * kanzure is busy hacking some python together | 01:14 | |
| kanzure | but i'm around and aware or so it seems | 01:14 |
| jrayhawk | on cysteine we just removed all sync calls from userspace | 01:14 |
| jrayhawk | runs much better | 01:14 |
| jrayhawk | linux's storage layer has a lot of problems, and only a handful of people have worked on them because honeypots in the form of experimental filesystems keep otherwise potentially productive people from finishing things | 01:17 |
| jrayhawk | ubifs/logfs/btrfs etc | 01:17 |
| kanzure | or from murdering people | 01:17 |
| kanzure | or possibly getting retrials? | 01:17 |
| jrayhawk | ha ha like a judge would humor Hans warped version of reality | 01:18 |
| jrayhawk | i guess the solution to my immediate problem is to shove backups onto a somewhat more blocking filesystem | 01:21 |
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| kanzure | jrayhawk: so i'm still having some unicode issues | 01:34 |
| kanzure | when i decode a file as utf-8 i get some ascii every other character and \x00 the rest of the time | 01:34 |
| kanzure | when i decode the file as utf-16 (somestring.decode("utf-16") in python) i end up with japanese characters | 01:35 |
| kanzure | it's not japanese :/ | 01:35 |
| jrayhawk | You may have to specify utf-16le or utf-16be | 01:41 |
| jrayhawk | utf-16-le I guess, in pythonland | 01:42 |
| jrayhawk | you should get familiar with how the BOM works so you can understand what your decoder is at least supposed to be doing | 01:45 |
| kanzure | hmm with utf-16-le i get a UnicodeDecodeError | 01:45 |
| jrayhawk | What about with utf-16-be? | 01:45 |
| kanzure | utf-16-be works | 01:45 |
| kanzure | hooray | 01:45 |
| kanzure | the initial bytes are \xx and \xf i think | 01:46 |
| kanzure | or whatever i was complaining about the other day | 01:46 |
| kanzure | why is sisko always shouting? it's almost like a bad imitation of shatner | 01:46 |
| jrayhawk | to teach the autistic about human emotions | 01:47 |
| kanzure | yeah the first episode seems to be just for that | 01:48 |
| kanzure | "we experience time linearly" and then it continues on like this for 30min | 01:48 |
| QuantumG | heh | 01:55 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: the first two bytes seem to be the same whether it works for utf-16-be or utf-16-le | 02:35 |
| jrayhawk | Can you give me some example files? | 02:36 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/1.dat | 02:38 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/2.dat | 02:38 |
| kanzure | the second one only works with utf-16-le | 02:38 |
| jrayhawk | uh... 2.dat has a 16-bit BOM but appears to have 8-bit characters? | 02:42 |
| jrayhawk | so it's made by a very dumb program | 02:43 |
| jrayhawk | it's a miracle you can get python to decode that to anything useful at all, considering it's invalid in every character set | 02:45 |
| kanzure | let's see if it was me (my python shit) or scp or google that caused it.. | 02:45 |
| kanzure | https://trends.google.com/trends/viz?sort=0&scale=0&graph=all_csv&geor=all&q=caa+sports%2Cinternet+explorer+5.0%2Cwheatgrass&date=all&sa=N&geo=all | 02:46 |
| jrayhawk | 0000000: fffe 5900 6f00 7500 2000 6d00 7500 7300 ..Y.o.u. .m.u.s. | 03:32 |
| jrayhawk | 0000010: 7400 2000 6200 6500 2000 7300 6900 6700 t. .b.e. .s.i.g. | 03:32 |
| jrayhawk | 0000020: 6e00 6500 6400 2000 6900 6e00 2000 7400 n.e.d. .i.n. .t. | 03:32 |
| jrayhawk | well, at least that part looks good! | 03:33 |
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| archels | http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2011/analog-systems-biology-0928.html | 07:36 |
| archels | Shit, even MIT doesn't bother linking to the actual paper? | 07:36 |
| kanzure | nobody bothers linking to the actual paper | 07:47 |
| kanzure | archels: if you care, | 07:47 |
| kanzure | i wrote a web service that acted as a news2paper gateway | 07:47 |
| kanzure | the concept was that you would click the bookmarklet when you wanted to go to the paper for the current article | 07:47 |
| kanzure | unfortunately it relies on the power of 'crowdsourcing' | 07:48 |
| kanzure | http://octopart.theresumator.com/apply/HCsbk5/Software-Engineer-Analytics.html | 07:51 |
| kanzure | octopart is hiring | 07:51 |
| archels | kanzure: sounds neat, but relying on contributions will probably result in hit-and-miss | 07:53 |
| kanzure | well it could also be done manually | 07:54 |
| kanzure | there's not that much science published :/ | 07:54 |
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| kanzure | http://blog.bitbucket.org/2011/10/03/bitbucket-now-rocks-git/ | 09:35 |
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| kanzure | back from court | 13:13 |
| klafka | why were you in court? | 13:14 |
| kanzure | klafka: see pm/im | 13:19 |
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| QuantumG | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIMb3hGzWW8 | 16:01 |
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| delinquentme | ahhhh | 18:11 |
| delinquentme | ahhhhh! | 18:11 |
| delinquentme | the nets are splittahing | 18:11 |
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| delinquentme | kanzure: | 18:19 |
| delinquentme | whats good !? | 18:19 |
| kanzure | ? | 18:21 |
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| delinquentme | just saying howdy | 18:57 |
| delinquentme | u ready for class? | 18:58 |
| foucist | he's gonna fail | 19:00 |
| QuantumG | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04MNf1YdNxI | 19:20 |
| kanzure | QuantumG: these links suck please describe them | 19:22 |
| kanzure | i can't figure out what they are from their youtube ids | 19:22 |
| JayDugger | Cops arrest people running a lemonade stand. And that surprises you how? | 19:22 |
| JayDugger | And Thingiverse continues to whine about a weapons policy...http://blog.thingiverse.com/2011/10/03/deadly-weapons-on-thingiverse/ | 19:27 |
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| jrayhawk | it woudln't be that hard to run afould of ITAR by distributing weapon designs. | 21:52 |
| jrayhawk | ugh, can't type | 21:52 |
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