2011-10-09.log

--- Log opened Sun Oct 09 00:00:47 2011
joshcryerWell that was weird as all hell.00:02
joshcryerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_System_Assessment_Tool00:02
joshcryerIn addition to tests requested by the user, WinSAT is scheduled to automatically run every week. The default schedule is 1am on Sundays.00:03
joshcryerNever encountered this before.00:03
JayDuggerHow'd you encounter it?00:07
joshcryerAmazingly compatibility mode kicked on randomly and I was quite disturbed since I didn't run anything. Checked the task manager and there it was.00:11
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JayDuggerDo you run Vista or Windows 7?00:13
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joshcryerHP set to release NAND flash replacement in 18 months00:24
joshcryerhttp://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9220652/HP_set_to_release_NAND_flash_replacement_in_18_months00:24
joshcryer"Flash is a done deal," Williams was quoted as saying, "now we're going after DRAM, and we think we can do two orders of magnitude improvement in terms of switching energy per bit."00:25
joshcryer(regarding memristors, naturally)00:25
joshcryer"We're running hundreds of wafers through the fab," he continued. "We're way ahead of where we thought we would be at this moment in time."00:25
joshcryernanowire crossbars = easy!00:25
joshcryereetimes has a slightly better article, imo: http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4229171/HP-Hynix-to-launch-memristor-memory-201300:27
joshcryer "We could offer 2-Gbytes of memory per core on the processor chip. Putting non-volatile memory on top of the logic chip will buy us twenty years of Moore's Law", said Williams.00:47
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JayDuggerDo they mean Moore's Law improvements from 2013-2033, or a big jump in capability equal to 2033-era chips in 18 months?02:51
JayDuggerPretty poorly written, even for tech journalism.02:51
foucistJayDugger: the former03:32
jrayhawkit'll be rad if flash manages to come and go before anyone manages to make a mass storage device I can actually run a flash filesystem on03:58
jrayhawkmaybe I can make a giant jbod of XD cards04:02
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AlonzoTGyes, I set up a Google RSS news feed for memristors a couple weeks ago.07:10
AlonzoTG;)07:10
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kanzurehi all12:25
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strangewarpYou could say, flash memory will be a... flash in the pan12:49
* strangewarp unrepentant bad pun12:49
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kanzure"The MOSTek 6502 design team was nine people,"13:10
UtopiahMaking Things See: 3D vision with Kinect, Processing, and Arduino http://avaxhome.ws/ebooks/eLearning_book/information_technologies/1449307078.html13:38
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joshcryerThe whole memristor's "buy us twenty years of Moore's Law" thing is just semantics. Moores law is about transistor count, 20-30 billion memristors on top of a chip is around 10 times the current top level transistor count (around 3 billion on GeForce 400).16:39
joshcryerHynix needs to focus on a plug and play option that is USB or SATA based and mass market the heck out of it.16:41
joshcryerFocusing on RAM will require a paradigm change because software and hardware will need a new kind of "power saving" operation mode. How do you handle RAM that is non-volatile, etc?16:42
joshcryerAs Stanley Williams said, though, in his "Finding the Missing Memristor" talk (I'm sure you've all seen), the industry doesn't "do anything" until the "gun is pointed to their head and the trigger is about to be pulled." If Hynix is successful they may be the trigger to get it done. A petabyte harddrive for a few hundred bucks would screw up the entire hard drive industry.16:46
joshcryerIf they get it working they'll need a "get memrestive!" video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xPvD0Z9kz816:51
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kanzurehrm what happened20:20
kanzureping timeout? what20:20
foucistwho knows, i have ignores on all parts/joins20:21
jrayhawkI blame freenode.20:21
kanzurei blame you jrayhawk20:22
kanzurejrayhawk: can i sleep on your couch if i show up20:22
jrayhawkI don't have a couch, but I might be able to arrange something. How long?20:22
kanzureat most, a week. probably less.20:22
kanzureyou don't have a couch?20:23
kanzurewhat's the point of bumming a couch from a friend if your friends don't have couches20:23
foucist$20 inflatable bed with air pump from walmart!20:23
jrayhawkI live in what can charitably be called a 'cottage', so we'd wind up disrupting eachother's sleep schedules, but I'm not sure how problematic that really is, and there are a couple other options I can look into.20:25
kanzurehaha what20:26
kanzuregeeze i thought you had a pad20:26
kanzurenevermind20:26
jrayhawkI have a shack in the woods.20:26
kanzurewtf20:26
jrayhawkI guess I was probably renting a house around the time we were introducted...?20:31
jrayhawkintroduced20:32
delinquentmeout of curiosity20:35
delinquentmeis it safe to assume that MOST DNA sequencing companies are out there with the specific intent of extending human life?20:35
delinquentmeor at very least the lives of people with $$$ and their own lives?20:35
delinquentmejrayhawk, you're in SF?20:36
delinquentmeand whats a "cottage"20:36
delinquentme( if you dont mind me asking )20:36
jrayhawkNo, I'm in Portland. No idea what Kanzure's planning on doing up here.20:39
delinquentmejrayhawk, so im looking to get out that way ... but not into the idea of paying shit loads on rent ...20:40
delinquentmethat sounds like an easy way to get decent rent20:41
delinquentmeadopt me?20:41
delinquentmeno but srsly ... are these lots of those? bc i could be totes into that20:41
jrayhawkShacks in the boonies probably aren't a good idea unless you're planning on having a car.20:43
jrayhawkAnd also don't mind mediocre internet connections.20:43
kanzuredelinquentme: no, they are just sequencing dna dude20:47
delinquentmewhy20:48
delinquentmemaaannn20:48
delinquentmethat pisses me off20:48
kanzureit's a commodity business20:48
delinquentmei donno man20:49
kanzurejrayhawk: i'd be visiting for eric probably20:49
jrayhawkHuh.20:49
kanzureand if i do that i'd want to meet you buttholes20:50
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delinquentmehow do you drill nanometer holes?20:57
kanzureacid etches20:57
kanzurefenn: are you coming down for open science summit21:12
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delinquentmenight all!22:00
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joshcryerjrayhawk, any more info about your cottage? is it like a tuff shed or a unibomber shack, etc. Do you grow your own food, use solar / wind or from the grid? etc22:04
jrayhawkman, you guys are excitable about shacks22:14
joshcryerNah if it was a unibomber shack I would just quietly forget I asked...22:16
joshcryerShould look into a nice wireless bridge if your connection is terribly sucky.22:17
kanzureSHACKS!22:17
kanzureradioshack is getting arduinos22:17
joshcryerAre they going to charge 4x as much?22:17
kanzureprobably?22:18
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joshcryerI saw that other guy wanted a place to live with low rent / rent free. I knew I was on to something! Mandatory showers though.22:19
jrayhawkhttp://www.omgwallhack.org/home/jrayhawk/img/hovel/20110514_002.jpg here, have an image22:20
* joshcryer ... quietly forgets ...22:20
joshcryer>:P22:20
kanzurethis is why i love you jrayhawk22:21
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kanzureyour keyboard sucks22:21
jrayhawkYeah, kinda.22:22
joshcryerHis Trinitron's?22:22
joshcryer(why you love him)22:22
kanzureno his matrox cards22:22
jrayhawkquad output cards aren't really rare anymore22:23
jrayhawkhell, some laptops have an EyeFinity setup, nowadays.22:23
kanzuremine don't :(22:30
jrayhawkI think for less than $100 in parts you can make an expresscard-to-pcie adapter22:33
jrayhawkOr you could buy a shitload of displaylinks22:33
jrayhawkbut they kinda suck on Linux22:33
jrayhawks/kinda/completely/22:34
jrayhawkhttp://forum.notebookreview.com/gaming-software-graphics-cards/418851-diy-vidock-experiences.html#post532424022:38
kanzure"If a modern design team applied the same amount of attention per transistor as the 6502 team, it would need to contain 1.3 million people."22:38
jrayhawkgosh, it's almost like automated design was a good idea22:39
kanzureheh22:39
kanzurealmost22:39
joshcryerHeh22:54
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