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| delinquentme | kanz you around ?? | 02:12 |
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| @kanzure | deliquentme yeah | 08:49 |
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| Lucas_ | What are potential enhancements that would help humans survive in space? | 09:11 |
| @kanzure | space habitats | 09:14 |
| @kanzure | food | 09:14 |
| @kanzure | water | 09:14 |
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| Lucas_ | enhancements, not necessities | 09:17 |
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| Steel | integrated solar cells | 10:12 |
| Steel | maybe? | 10:12 |
| Lucas_ | ironic, I was just looking into that | 10:17 |
| Lucas_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatom | 10:18 |
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| @kanzure | hi indigenous | 10:21 |
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| indigenous | Hello kansure | 10:24 |
| indigenous | *kanzure | 10:25 |
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| @kanzure | indigenous: what brings you around here? | 10:26 |
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| indigenous | To view some interesting conversations on transhumanization | 10:28 |
| @kanzure | okie dokie. how'd you hear about us? | 10:28 |
| @kanzure | (you've been randomly selected for polling) | 10:29 |
| Mariu | :p | 10:30 |
| @kanzure | "idle"4 | 10:30 |
| @kanzure | fdkfldak | 10:30 |
| @kanzure | entry error | 10:30 |
| Mariu | !! | 10:30 |
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| indigenous | In a comment on hplusmagazine.com some mentioned this IRC channel | 10:31 |
| indigenous | *someone | 10:31 |
| @kanzure | eh.. do you regularly read that site? | 10:31 |
| indigenous | I found it recently and went through some older articles to see if there was some interesting reads | 10:33 |
| indigenous | then added it to greader | 10:34 |
| @kanzure | last year i was paid to convert hplusmagazine from drupal to wordpress | 10:35 |
| @kanzure | i found an old video promo that nobody knew about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bHlQnb1k_s | 10:35 |
| indigenous | Ahh okay. What do you think of the magazine? | 10:38 |
| @kanzure | hahah not much | 10:41 |
| @kanzure | it's really just a blog | 10:41 |
| Steel | kanz, what exactly... | 10:41 |
| Steel | did you do as head of researh? | 10:41 |
| Steel | *research | 10:41 |
| @kanzure | the most public thing was http://gadaprize.org/ | 10:42 |
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| eudoxia | forget integrated solar cells | 11:27 |
| eudoxia | let's have integrated solar SAILS | 11:27 |
| eudoxia | http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/47f597011eb3c | 11:27 |
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| ybit | bootcamp lesson #1: extracting vids from websites | 12:04 |
| ybit | http://www.wolframalpha.com/tour/what-is-wolframalpha.html | 12:04 |
| ybit | i want the vid on that page | 12:04 |
| @kanzure | broadcast/wolframalpha/wolframalpha_overview/wolframalpha_overview_256 | 12:07 |
| @kanzure | broadcast/wolframalpha/wolframalpha_overview/wolframalpha_overview_700 | 12:07 |
| @kanzure | wolframalpha_overview_700_PIP.flv | 12:09 |
| ybit | what file referenced /broadcast? | 12:10 |
| * ybit is afk for a moment for irs stuff | 12:11 | |
| @kanzure | i think it's on rtmp://streamingmedia.wolfram.com/ondemand | 12:12 |
| @kanzure | anyway, check http://wolframalpha.com/flash/about.smil | 12:12 |
| @kanzure | and http://wolframalpha.com/flash/vidconfig-about.xml | 12:12 |
| @kanzure | you should use something like rtmpdump | 12:13 |
| ybit | ..and i'm back | 12:19 |
| ybit | was looking at the smil and xml docs | 12:19 |
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| @kanzure | ybit: again.. use rtmpdump | 12:24 |
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| ybit | kanzure: http://youtu.be/4Wv9hjfVWbM | 13:34 |
| ybit | looking at *overview_700 doesn't show an flv either | 13:34 |
| * ybit also needs a quicker method for getting to non-linked pages | 13:36 | |
| @kanzure | erm, are you using rtmpdump or some other rtmp-protocol to access it? | 13:37 |
| ybit | the vid shows | 13:38 |
| ybit | i'm using konqueror | 13:38 |
| @kanzure | damn it don't make me watch a screencast | 13:38 |
| @kanzure | also, most people use firefox + firebug or chrome + chrome dev tools | 13:38 |
| ybit | yeah | 13:38 |
| @kanzure | some assholes like to use chrome + firebug, but whatever | 13:38 |
| ybit | but you don't have embedded viewing of source like this | 13:38 |
| @kanzure | of course you do? | 13:38 |
| ybit | hrm... | 13:39 |
| @kanzure | btw, you should be able to find about.xml not only from the flashVars in the js but also from the DOM-manipulated <object> that is dropped into the div that pops up | 13:39 |
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| ybit | nope | 13:40 |
| ybit | you don't | 13:40 |
| ybit | just tried | 13:40 |
| ybit | re: embedded viewing of source | 13:40 |
| ybit | also s/non-linked pages/relative urls | 13:42 |
| @kanzure | because whatever you're using is the page's html source, not the currently-active-html-source | 13:42 |
| Mariu | try using the add-on FlashGot | 13:49 |
| @kanzure | bah such a sell-out | 13:49 |
| @kanzure | ybit: do you understand that it's on an rmtp server and you need to access the file through that protocol? | 13:49 |
| ybit | so you've told me, but i'm trying to get to the point of how you figured that out | 13:58 |
| ybit | but i keep distracting myself with new add-ons for ffox | 13:58 |
| @kanzure | there's a few ways to figure that out- | 13:59 |
| @kanzure | first, just generally knowing that most flash flv players are rtmp wrappers | 13:59 |
| @kanzure | second, in the xml file it references rtmp | 14:00 |
| @kanzure | third, streamingmedia.wolfram.com/ondemand runs an rtmp server | 14:00 |
| @kanzure | rtmp://streamingmedia.wolfram.com/ondemand | 14:00 |
| @kanzure | you have to think sometimes, "is stephen wolfram the type of person who would sell out to adobe?" | 14:01 |
| @kanzure | the answer is yes | 14:01 |
| ybit | :D | 14:01 |
| @kanzure | i wonder if cclive would be able to grab that one for you | 14:02 |
| @kanzure | it's worth a shot if you don't want to read the rtmpdump man pages | 14:02 |
| @kanzure | however, you would have to read the cclive man pages instead | 14:02 |
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| ybit | and i'm back | 15:21 |
| * ybit works on finding the vid | 15:21 | |
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| ybit | not seeing about.xml from the flashvars and i don't know where to begin with "the DOM-manipulated <object> that is dropped into the div that pops up" | 15:45 |
| @kanzure | well, try chrome or firebug | 15:45 |
| @kanzure | you need to look at the current html not the html that was given to the client | 15:45 |
| ybit | i'm using chrome dev tools | 15:46 |
| @kanzure | ok. you can try "inspect element" when the player pops up | 15:46 |
| ybit | were you looking at swfobject.js | 15:46 |
| @kanzure | no | 15:46 |
| ybit | would be convenient to be able to search through all the js files instead of clicking to select a js file to search | 15:47 |
| @kanzure | i think there's a thing to do that, but you could just cat all the js files together as a last resort | 15:48 |
| @kanzure | btw, you shouldn't be looking at the html/js anymore | 15:48 |
| @kanzure | you're done with that.. | 15:48 |
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| @kanzure | also, if you don't believe me about rtmp then just use swfdump on the flash file | 15:49 |
| ybit | if i'm done with js, then i guess you want me to move onto dom | 15:50 |
| ybit | oh whoops, was scrolled up, didn't see your responses | 15:50 |
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| ybit | completely overlooked the youtube link | 15:57 |
| ybit | now it's easy to fetch | 15:57 |
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| JayDugger | Good evening, everyone. | 17:11 |
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| Spakz | Hey JayDugger | 17:16 |
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| ybit | augur: i own your channel | 19:29 |
| augur | ok | 19:29 |
| ybit | aww, it was more fun when i thought you cared | 19:29 |
| augur | rule 1: i never care | 19:30 |
| ybit | i thought rule 1 was to not read wikipedia | 19:31 |
| Spakz | But.. but I love Wikipedia | 19:31 |
| ybit | yeah, me too, but it apparently warps your thinking if you are a noob, like myself | 19:32 |
| Spakz | How so? | 19:33 |
| ybit | augur was, and might still if he feels motivated one day, teach me about formal grammars | 19:34 |
| augur | ok lets do it now | 19:34 |
| augur | :X | 19:34 |
| ybit | he doesn't want me reading the wiki pages yet, though, otherwise i might have relearn later | 19:34 |
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| Spakz | I see. Are the wiki author's grammar really that poor? | 19:37 |
| Spakz | authors' * | 19:37 |
| Spakz | Is the * | 19:37 |
| Spakz | 'Cause apparently mine is : P | 19:37 |
| augur | Spakz: its more that theres a particular bassline perspective that you should have, which wikipedia isnt designed to provide | 19:40 |
| Spakz | I think I understand what you mean | 19:41 |
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| AlonzoTG | Anyone know a good place to get a Biomedical engineering PhD with an excellent cost/knowledge ratio? | 22:47 |
| @kanzure | vietnam | 22:47 |
| @kanzure | i have some contacts, if you want | 22:47 |
| AlonzoTG | hmmzers. | 23:18 |
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| augur | according to IAEA, we're either on the precipice of, or beyond, the tipping point of uncontrollable global warming | 23:46 |
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