2012-01-24.log

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-!- Topic for ##hplusroadmap: biohacking, nootropics, transhumanism, open hardware http://gnusha.org/logs/ http://bit.ly/diybionews2 http://gadaprize.org/ http://groups.google.com/group/openmanufacturing00:19
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delinquentmeYo so what happened to our convo on syntetic blood last night?10:21
AlonzoTGI wish there was some more meta-discussion so I could understand the projects being discussed and come to a decision as to which ones I want to participate in.10:21
@kanzuresynthetic blood?10:38
@kanzureAlonzoTG: you should ask questions like "wtf is x"10:39
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@kanzurehi eudoxia10:39
eudoxiayo10:39
Omegakanzure: x is mdma it's one of the more popular recreational psychoactives11:08
delinquentmehttp://www.popularmechanics.com/science/health/med-tech/5-synthetic-substitutes-for-real-blood#fbIndex111:08
delinquentmelolol11:09
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@kanzure"A number of organizations, like the Budapest FabLab, Hackerspace Budapest and the Asimov Foundation is jointly working on a new Open Science Lab initiative in Budapest, Hungary, so that ordinary people...."11:36
@kanzureasimov oundation?11:36
@kanzure*foundation11:37
MariuI have to go, see you guys11:43
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delinquentmeLAKJSHLKDJHALSKJDHLKJHAS!12:03
delinquentmeOMTHE FARKAR12:03
delinquentmeso listen12:03
delinquentmewe've run tests12:04
delinquentmejust saw something on kurzweils site about stem cells12:04
delinquentmeon one hand12:04
delinquentmeembryonic stem cells12:04
delinquentmeon the other12:04
delinquentmeIPP stem cells12:04
delinquentme(note: alarmist)  What if we miss the deadline by 10 years12:04
delinquentmewhat if that 10 years is the time which we could have made up by saying "we wholly embrace this religion thing as vestigial and we're realizing science has much more promise"12:05
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@kanzuredelinquentme: i have no idea what you're smoking today12:34
delinquentmekanzure, its simply "will entertaining religion stop us from making the cuttoff to live 1000 year lifespans ? "12:34
@kanzureentertaining? so what, you spend time in church?12:36
delinquentmeno12:36
delinquentmeive got a phone interview i need to prep for12:37
delinquentmeTBC in ~1hr12:37
delinquentmekanzure, are you a google +er?12:47
@kanzuredelinquentme: https://plus.google.com/102967708777429109844/posts12:52
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delinquentmethat was fast13:10
delinquentmethey're using php13:10
delinquentme=/13:10
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@kanzuredelinquentme: abort abort abort13:11
eudoxiahahaha13:11
delinquentmeyou got it13:11
@kanzuregene_hacker: hi13:12
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delinquentmeOK so yeah what are the consequences of not pushing hard to just get approval for embryonic stemcells?13:56
@kanzureconsequences include "Go do your stem cell work somewhere else"13:58
delinquentmeare there currently countries who support it?14:05
@kanzurebtw, why do you want embryonic cells in particular?14:07
@kanzurewe can already covert other forms of cells into stem cells14:07
@kanzurehttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/stem-cells/14:07
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@kanzureinduced pluripotent is what you want14:08
@kanzurehi gene_hacker14:08
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sylph_makoThis is the bizzarest thing. I think I'm having some kind of migraine in some part of my brain that affects my sense of touch, that or the residual effects of the migraine are spanning across multiple days.15:34
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sylph_makoFor the most part, I'm only getting a very rough summary of touch perception at the conscious level. I have a limited ability to focus and feel it. I'm still working that out.15:35
sylph_makoBut all through this I seem MORE dexterous. I think this has pushed my clumsy overthinking consciousness away from interfering with lower level processes. Skills like putting on gloves, unlocking my phone's rather devious lock screen, throwing knives around, have all been boosted!15:36
sylph_makoIt feels like when you cut the blood off from a limb and it's restoring, but without the discomfort. In fact I'm feeling very little discomfort. If this was consciously imparted it could have been a means to keep me asleep despite my annoying hair making my face itch.15:37
sylph_makoI hope you find this neurologically interesting.15:38
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@kanzurehi klafka16:01
@kanzureerm, kvltist16:01
kvltistyeah?16:01
klafkafine16:01
klafkadon't say hi to m16:01
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JayDuggerGood morning.16:19
JayDuggerkanzure, I wish you had drugstack.com working.16:19
JayDuggerA friend of mine wants to lose weight. He asks about specific stacks, and I'd like to point him away from Tim Ferriss's affiliate links.16:20
@kanzuretim has affiliate links? that's awul16:20
JayDuggerI realize the irony of this, nagging you to action when I could set up my own Amazon affiliate links.16:20
@kanzure*awful16:20
JayDuggerI don't know that he does, in fairness. I assume so, but sleep and caffeine deprivation might cause error.16:21
JayDuggerI.e., I am too lazy to fact check this point.16:21
JayDuggerWhile I wish, how about a tile-laying robot? (Contractor Follies, Day Four--Smart People Rarely Do Manual Labor)16:22
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klafkahey can anyone get me this paper from PNAS? Neural correlates of the psychedelic state as determined by fMRI studies with psilocybin kanzure21:02
@kanzurehaha why is kanzure appended to that message21:07
@kanzurenot fair21:07
klafkabecause you can typically21:07
klafka:P21:07
klafkadude the last author is david nutt!21:07
klafkathe guy who took a stand against the UK stance on drugs21:08
@kanzureklafka: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/Neural%20correlates%20of%20the%20psychedelic%20state%20as%20determined%20by%20fMRI%20studies%20with%20psilocybin.pdf21:09
klafkamwahahaha21:11
klafkathe kanzure  worked!21:11
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Mariuhello everyone22:32
@kanzurenope22:36
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