2012-01-31.log

--- Log opened Tue Jan 31 00:00:40 2012
kanzurehi klak00:00
kanzureklafka00:00
klafkayo00:01
klafkagoing to sleep :P00:01
kanzurelame00:01
klafkapfft00:02
klafkagotta get up in 6hrs00:02
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fenni think someone in brazil was using a pico projector with UV for stereolithography08:29
fennanyway it seems very straightforward08:30
fennget uv laser diode, hack in place of rgb laser assembly, profit08:31
fennspeed of pixel switching is not important for dna synthesis applications08:32
fenni'm reading "4 hour body" - it's actually quite agreeable so far, no complaints here08:34
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kanzurejrayhawk: irssi says lag is 10.2111:32
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kanzuregene_hacker: yo11:54
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kanzuregene_hacker: hey,12:10
kanzureif i have magnetic beads in a channel12:10
kanzureand the channel has a fluid flowing by with some force,12:10
kanzurecan a planar coil stop the magnets from moving12:10
bkerofenn: isn't that the uberman sleep cycle book?12:11
kanzurenot quite12:11
kanzureiirc 4-hour-body came out long after uberman12:11
bkeroIs it still similar polyphasic sleep?12:12
kanzure4-hour-body is tim ferris12:12
kanzureyou know.. 4 hour work week12:12
bkeroah12:14
bkerothat, okay12:14
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Juulkanzure, what are you trying to do with magnetic beads?12:22
kanzureJuul: trapping12:23
Juulah12:24
kanzurei wish this didn't use microcoils, geeze http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S095656630500252612:24
kanzureJuul: microfluidic dna synthesis device12:24
Juulsounds pretty awesome12:24
Juuli haven't heard of this before12:25
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jrayhawkkanzure: Hmmm?12:28
kanzurejrayhawk: it's gone now12:29
kanzuregnusha has been lagging lately on irc12:29
kanzurebut it varies.12:29
jrayhawkSwitching servers over to OSUOSL might be prudent12:30
jrayhawkthe ones you connect to, thatis12:30
kanzurehuh?12:30
kanzurei thought i only have one server12:31
kanzurei suppose it's possible that i'm neuroblastoma12:31
kanzure*i'm on12:31
jrayhawkYou're complaining about your connection from home to gnusha, or your connection from gnusha to freenode?12:31
kanzuregnusha to freenode12:31
kanzurebut maybe i ssh'd from gnusha to neuroblastoma to do irc12:32
kanzurei'm pretty sure i don't do that :)12:32
jrayhawkthe osuosl freenode servers are probably going to be the fastest option12:32
bkeroI know about those12:34
bkerokurtz, niven, zelazny, brown12:34
jrayhawkyou would!12:34
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bkero:312:35
jrayhawkBoth gnusha and them are hooked up to NERO, so latency should be tiny.12:35
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bio_borishello15:27
kanzurehi bio_boris15:38
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bio_borisi was goingto ask a question about how to run multiple processes with perl, but hopefully this article will help me learn fork15:39
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delinquentmefound some intro tutorials on python / montecarlos16:02
delinquentmewhewp whewp16:02
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bio_borishey delinquintme16:07
bio_borisdo you know how to use perl fork16:07
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delinquentmebio_boris, nah im a pythoner / rubyer16:32
kanzuredelinquentme: python for montecarlos is fine,16:34
kanzurebut don't neglect r16:34
kanzureor cran16:34
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kanzurehi gene_hacker16:34
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delinquentmeskin cells >> brain cells16:41
delinquentmehttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-1678880916:41
kanzurebio_boris: still need help with perl?16:47
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kanzurewebby product for academic journals http://scholasticahq.com/17:39
bio_borishey kanzure17:45
bio_borisyes i am still trying to run multiple processes17:46
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kanzurehi yashgaroth18:17
kanzurehi klafka ..18:17
klafkayo18:17
yashgarothhello18:17
klafkamy side hurts18:17
klafkai'm trying to decide if i have appendicitis18:17
kanzureshouldn't your doctor do that18:17
klafkawhat doctor!18:18
klafkamy insurance doesn't go into effect until tomorrow18:18
kanzurethere's a free clinic in the middle of sf for local residents18:18
klafkaalso even then i haven't seen my new PCP18:18
klafkai'm so not going to a free clinic18:18
klafkait's on a weird side18:19
klafkaanyway localized persistent abdominal pain is not good18:20
yashgarothwhich one is the weird side18:20
klafkait's going to be such a hassle ot go to an urgent care facility18:20
delinquentmeall rightttt there the kid is =]18:20
klafkasorry it's like upper right quadrant18:20
klafkait could be an ulcer i guess18:20
yashgarothconstant pain or waves18:21
klafkait seems to fade in and out in intensity, it never gets really painful18:22
klafkacould be gall bladder also18:23
yashgarothwell if it's a fairly short interval of on/off intensity it's probably intestinal, timed to smooth muscle contractions18:26
kanzureyou need to poop!18:26
kanzurethat's your diagnosis.18:26
klafkainteresting18:26
kanzurealternatively, if you poop you die18:26
yashgarothso...what time tomorrow does your insurance go into effect? not to worry you18:27
klafkai don't know18:27
klafkafeb 1st18:27
klafkaso hopefully midnight?18:27
klafkathink i should go to the emergency room tonight?18:27
klafkaor should I sleep on it18:27
delinquentmeklafka, no health insurance?18:27
delinquentmedoes it hurt when you poke it?18:27
klafkadelinquentme not till tomorrow18:27
klafkayes18:27
delinquentmeupper right quadrant being your or looking at you18:28
yashgarothdon't you have an emergency stash of pilfered antibiotics from the lab?18:28
klafkano18:28
delinquentmealso you can always call the hospital and ask them if they'd wait to charge you for a few hours :D18:28
delinquentmehospitals = $$ operation18:29
klafkadelinquentme my health insurance starts feb, but it's going to be a pain in the ass because i don't have a card yet, but i should be covered back dated18:29
klafkabut i'm sure it'll be a huge ordeal and i'll have to fight with them18:29
delinquentmeif you tell them they've got a better chance of being paid if they can wait to run it ....18:29
delinquentmeare you sure?18:29
delinquentmebc i think you're not18:29
delinquentme#smellsOfConjecture18:29
klafkaof course i'm not fucking sure18:29
delinquentme^^^18:29
delinquentmecall them up then18:29
klafkainsurance companies don't want to pay you18:29
klafkathey haven't even finished processing my application18:30
delinquentmebut hospitals will do what they need to to get paid18:30
klafkathey'll just bill me18:30
delinquentmewell you're not going to know for sure by talking to us are you18:30
delinquentmequestionmark.18:30
kanzureyou can usually negotiate hospital bills away18:30
klafkadelinquentme i'm not going to know period18:30
klafkait's not knowable18:30
klafkait's a volatile state the answer will depend on how persuasively i argue and how evil the insurance company is18:31
delinquentmehttp://www.healthhype.com/wp-content/uploads/appendix_location.jpg18:31
delinquentmeand it looks like its in the lower left18:31
klafkalower right18:31
klafkait always goes by the patient18:31
jrayhawkdo not fuck around on this; sepsis can kill you very fast18:32
delinquentmewoaaahhh18:32
delinquentmewoah.18:32
delinquentmeok hes got a stomach pain and it jumps to sepsis18:32
klafkahmm18:33
klafkaok so consensus so far seems to be, go to hospital tonight18:33
delinquentmewell klafka you're gonna be making cash18:33
klafkacertainly not more than medical bills without insurance18:33
delinquentmeand it probabably better to have you around18:33
roksproksorry to jump in with a stupid question, but are you sure its not just gas?18:33
delinquentmetell the doctor18:33
delinquentme^^^^18:34
klafkaroksprok maybe18:34
roksprokespecially if it is in waves18:34
klafkaidk18:34
roksprokthats the only reason i mention it18:34
klafkafor like 8-9hrs?18:34
delinquentmeklafka, you know what youcan do18:34
delinquentmetake a hot bath18:34
delinquentmewater pressure will negate the pain if its gas18:34
klafkai don't have the facilities to take a bath18:34
delinquentmelong story short I ODed on flax seed and I had awfull gas18:35
delinquentmefor like 2 days straight18:35
roksprokhttp://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/tc/appendicitis-symptoms18:35
jrayhawkbahaha18:35
delinquentmeklafka, have you had something w tons of fiber?18:35
delinquentmejrayhawk, awesome huh18:35
klafkaalso gas is generally not localized18:35
kanzureimportant: do you have an appendix18:35
delinquentmethis is true18:35
klafkait could also be pancreatitis, hiatal hernia, etc...18:35
delinquentme                                  ^^^18:35
delinquentmejesus18:36
delinquentmelol my girl does this same thing when shes sick18:36
jrayhawkFWIW flax is short-chain omega-3 and a negligable amount gets elongated18:36
delinquentmeshe goes into nurse mode18:36
jrayhawknot something worth consuming18:36
klafkakanzure yes18:36
delinquentmejrayhawk, reallllyyyy18:36
delinquentmesource?18:36
jrayhawkjust look up anything on elongase reactions18:37
klafkai do have really bad gas with this also, so like i guess it could potentially just be gas, but a lot of these things gas is symptomatic thereof18:38
klafkaidk18:38
klafkai'm just paranoid of unusual pains18:38
roksprokklafka: that is a good default position, especially if they last a while18:38
jrayhawkuse incredibly expensive algae supplements or eat wild-caught seafood (also incredibly expensive!) or take fermented (cold-processed, also expensive!) if you want essential omega-3s18:40
jrayhawkor simply don't eat a lot of PUFA18:40
jrayhawkwhich is really the much smarter approach18:40
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jrayhawkerrr, fermented cod liver oil18:41
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delinquentmejrayhawk, im missing how I make this elongase >>> gas connection18:42
delinquentmeand spirulina is hella cheap is it not?18:43
jrayhawkI was just informing you that eating a giant pile of flax seeds is unuseful in more ways than just the obvious one.18:43
jrayhawkNot the spirulina I've found, but I haven't hunted for it all that much.18:43
delinquentmejrayhawk, so theres a hippy drink called "green machine" which has like 6 lbs in it18:44
delinquentmenot to mention that umm.. you can grow more of it18:44
jrayhawkgrowing it sounds like a fun hobby18:45
jrayhawkinvite people over for dinner, give them a spoon and a bucket of pond scum18:45
jrayhawkthat's like the hardcore vegan equivalent of those people who eat raw meat18:46
jrayhawkhealthy, but spectacularly anti-social18:47
delinquentmelol18:50
delinquentmedepends on the group?18:51
delinquentmeim sure you can convince some chick w dreads in her hair that its the newest earth friendly alternative18:51
delinquentme"you grow it from nothing more than sun!... man"18:51
* delinquentme realizes he talks this way...18:51
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delinquentmePYTHON! random.gauss() !!!!!!19:02
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kanzurehttps://github.com/id-Software20:58
audybrew install doom3?21:20
kanzureyou automatically fail at life for using a mac and admitting it21:20
audyi'm sorry.. s/brew/apt-get21:20
kanzureapt-get doesn't compile heh21:21
kanzureor it doesn't usually compile for you21:21
klafkalol21:21
audyit'll come bundled with the next version of ubuntu...21:21
klafkaman21:26
klafkagoing to the er in 2 1/2 hrs21:26
kanzureyou should go anyway and just hang out there in case you collapse21:29
roksprokgood luck klafka21:31
klafkaand counting!21:31
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roksprokcould anyone get me a pdf of pubmed id 18814845 : http://www.mendeley.com/research/regeneration-in-axolotls-a-model-to-aim-for/21:32
roksprokits in experimental gerontology, published by elsevier21:33
roksprokkanzure: you don't happen to have it hosted by chance?21:33
kanzurenyeehh21:40
kanzureno, but i'll look into grabbig it in a bit..21:40
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roksprokits not pressing, and I plan on spending a lot of time in this channel, so if you happen to get a chance, or can point me in the direction of a tracker or something i'd appreciate it21:46
kanzureroksprok: http://ezproxy.free-webmaster-resources.org/tag/ezproxy-username-password/21:47
roksprokkanzure: thanks a lot, i'll bookmark that page21:53
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delinquentmeklafka, I cant help but think so much of this math work are simply workarounds for lack of high quality / long read lengths22:16
delinquentmethoughts?22:16
klafkanot thinking about it22:16
klafkagoign to the hospital in 1 3/4 hs22:16
klafkahrs22:16
delinquentmenice!22:16
delinquentmewell i mean better than other options :D22:16
kanzureklafka: just go. hang out there.22:17
kanzurei'm sure they have free wifi22:17
klafka i couldn' t watch netflix22:17
klafkawhich is doing something to keep me less sane22:17
kanzurestream netflix over 3g22:17
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foucistkanzure: yeah.  i will!22:29
kanzurefoucist: ?22:31
fouciststream netflix over 3g22:31
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klafkai may when i'm there22:35
klafka1 1/2 hrs and counting22:35
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