2012-02-08.log

--- Log opened Wed Feb 08 00:00:01 2012
Mokbortolan_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYDfwUJzYQg00:00
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@kanzuremchsi?00:10
Stee|wat?00:18
Stee|oh00:18
Stee|yeah00:18
Stee|friend of mine :P00:19
Molybdenumweird local ISP I use.00:20
@kanzurei wonder how pjscrape handles redirects00:27
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@kanzureyup the answer seems to be 'poorly' it can't figure out which url to match against or something00:50
Stee|my retardation knows no bounds O_o00:50
* kanzure sleeps00:51
Molybdenumwhat did you do.00:52
Stee|forgot to copy some of the files from something >_>00:52
Molybdenumderp.00:53
Mokbortolan_Molybdenum is my second favorite element!00:53
Molybdenum:D00:53
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Stee|I broke something >_>00:58
Molybdenum....00:58
MolybdenumYou are a mess today.00:59
Stee|fixed.01:05
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Stee|TEX now working on forum, not that anyone who's awake cares02:43
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Mariuhello everyone04:34
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delinquentmeMariu, HOWDAY05:05
delinquentmearchels, YOU TEW05:05
delinquentmeanyone know of the longest gene name out there?05:06
Mariuhey, delinquentme05:22
delinquentmeMariu, have I already asked about your specialties?05:24
Mariunope, you haven't05:24
MariuI don't think I have any05:24
MariuI don't know where should I orient myself towards either05:27
utopiah_the light05:30
Mariu:p05:31
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JayDuggerGood morning, everyone.07:06
Mariuhey, JayDugger07:07
JayDuggerI second Utopiah's suggestion,07:07
Mariu:p07:07
MariuJayDugger, what do you make of it then ?07:11
JayDuggerI think I'm a poor choice for career advice.07:11
MariuI meant of utopiah's answer07:11
MariuxD07:12
JayDuggerI only saw "the light."07:12
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Mariuokay07:12
JayDuggerFull points for a fast reply, but unhelpful, I imagine.07:12
Mariugotcha07:13
JayDuggerDo something that you find meaningful. Money's good, but not all-important, and stress kills.07:13
JayDuggerUnhelpful platitudes, I admit, but unfalsifiable and therefore perfectly true.07:14
Mariuit's cool07:14
Mariuthanks07:14
JayDuggerYou're welcome.07:15
@kanzuredid we already do this? i think we did07:48
@kanzurehttp://www.rcsb.org/pdb/education_discussion/molecule_of_the_month/poster_quickref.pdf07:48
@kanzuremolecules drawn to scale and such.07:48
@kanzuretdcs thread on physforum http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtopic=794307:54
JayDuggerYea! Electricity is better than coffee!08:01
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strageskanzure: does transcranial ultrasound pose a greater danger than tDCS?08:50
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stragesthat being said I think I have everything to try it other than the calibarted hydrophone08:53
@kanzurei don't know, both can be dangerous :)08:54
@kanzureyou certainly need to test the ultrasound setup much more08:54
@kanzureone of those papers shows a test setup with a chunk of meat and observing burn marks on the meat08:54
@kanzureif you get burn marks, then you'd be burning your hardware too08:54
@kanzuresooo it's important to not do that.08:54
stragesyeah, I might just stick with tDCS for now.  One of our members at Makers Local 256 started experimenting lastnight using some 3M red dot electrodes.  Turing the power source on and off caused perceived flashes of light in his peripheral vision and one placement of the anode caused a metallic taste in his mouth and a feeling of leaning to one side.08:57
strages*turning08:58
@kanzurethis does not seem very targetted08:58
@kanzurewhat's the point of this if you can't target specific minicolumns or circuits08:58
stragesgive it time08:58
@kanzurei suppose there might be some "whole brain therapy" or "generic brain region therapy" that you can do, but that sounds really pseudoscientificy08:58
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@kanzurehi ianmathwiz709:03
ianmathwiz7hey09:05
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@kanzureeudoxia: yo09:09
eudoxiahello09:10
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delinquentmeheres a thought:09:19
delinquentme" we "09:19
jrayhawkweh09:20
delinquentmeare currently HORRIBLY equipped to deal with the influx of talent for life extension09:20
@kanzurenot really. i know what to do with good talented people when i see them.09:20
delinquentmesomeone needs to build a vocational school for life extension sciences09:20
@kanzurei know what to tell them to read, what equipment they need to build or buy, and what projects they should look into09:21
delinquentmei mean like humanity09:21
@kanzurehumanity isn't talented at life extension09:21
delinquentmebut it could be solved with a single working application which covers math biology and programming09:21
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@kanzureapplication?09:21
delinquentmeweb application09:22
delinquentmeanother thought09:22
delinquentmewhy the FUCK are grad students treated like mice09:22
delinquentmefucking academia09:22
delinquentmethe shit that grad student do could be taught to someone off the street in 6 months09:22
delinquentmeno shit09:22
@kanzurebecause they are cheap and easy09:22
delinquentmebc of academia09:22
@kanzureand there's lots of them. tons of them.09:22
@kanzureit's because they want something that the others have control of (professorships)09:23
strageshttp://gizmodo.com/5882725/the-miraculous-nasa-breakthrough-that-could-save-millions-of-lives09:25
@kanzurethat url is not self-describing -_-09:25
@kanzurewhat is it actually about09:25
delinquentmeummm09:27
delinquentmeits a carbon nanotube capsule09:27
delinquentmewhat they could DO with it is miraculous09:28
delinquentmehowever they have not done that yet09:28
delinquentmeI"VE MADE A BIG BLACK BOX09:28
delinquentmeINSIDE I WILL HOUSE A QUANTUM COMPUTER09:28
* Mokbortolan_ proves that useful quantum computing is impossible.09:28
delinquentme"TOday on CNN hacker delinquentme has created the miraculous quantum 1 supercomputer"09:28
delinquentmeMokbortolan_, you have to DISPROVE it for the cash09:29
delinquentmeif you disprove we be friends09:29
delinquentme>_< trollin~09:29
* Mokbortolan_ disproves delinquentme09:29
delinquentmelol09:29
delinquentmeyeah thats not really anything earth shaking :D09:29
delinquentmehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7-XLL3nbYU09:30
delinquentmethis however is09:30
@kanzuredelinquentme: pm09:30
@kanzuredelinquentme: right.. well anyway,09:41
delinquentmekanzure, so listen talk to me about something09:41
delinquentmelike when people space out and kind of say shit like " Oh man am I retarded"09:41
delinquentmei worry over these things09:41
@kanzureyeah, i have trouble properly routing 1000s of my friends together09:41
delinquentmebecause I realize for someone people they dont REALLY think they're retarded09:41
@kanzureit's hard to keep track of everyone and their different states09:42
delinquentmebut like for some people this could be something that like further ingrains their feeling of being dumb09:42
delinquentmeidk just a thought i had09:42
delinquentmebut yeah where is he at?09:42
@kanzuresf09:42
* delinquentme starts fapping09:42
delinquentmeAHEM09:42
delinquentmesorry09:42
delinquentmeyeah what kinda project?09:42
@kanzurehttp://classpager.com/09:42
delinquentmeALSO postgresql has support for bioinformatics!!!09:42
@kanzureum.. all databases do09:43
delinquentmethats kinda cool09:43
delinquentmesendgrid and MMR2txt09:43
@kanzureit's twilio09:43
@kanzureyou know, like tropo, except they were there first :p09:43
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delinquentmehttp://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-57373250-76/ibm-tips-into-microscopic-manufacturing/?part=rss&subj=latest-news&tag=title09:51
delinquentmehard tips09:51
@kanzurestop reading news :P09:52
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delinquentme^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^09:53
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delinquentmekanzure, you arounjd?11:08
delinquentmeim trying to test out my mic setting on skype11:08
@kanzureyes i'm around11:11
delinquentmecan i skype you real quick?11:12
@kanzuresure11:12
delinquentmeskype name?11:13
@kanzurekanzure11:13
delinquentmeyayaya muchas gracias kanzure11:15
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archelsDidn't they have a "mic test service" or somesuch for that?11:40
Mariuyeah11:41
Mariuthey did11:41
MariuI have to go, see you later everyone11:44
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@kanzurehi Coornail11:50
Coornailhi11:50
@kanzuresup?11:52
archelsperhaps delinquentme just wanted to yell obscenities at kanzure.11:58
delinquentmearchels, its a test call but you dont actually talk12:03
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Stee|delinquentme: Because a grad degree increases my potential long term salary12:37
Stee|also cuz my undergrad gpa was shit12:37
delinquentmeSteel?12:38
delinquentmeStee|, ?12:38
Stee|shit undergrad gpa12:38
Stee|wanted to work places that required decent gpas12:38
Stee|got into grad school12:38
Stee|reset gpa12:38
delinquentmehttp://torrentfreak.com/tribler-makes-bittorrent-impossible-to-shut-down-120208/12:40
delinquentmeStee|, but doesnt a portfolio and experience speak louder?12:40
* Mokbortolan_ designs a low-power treadmill in his head.12:41
delinquentmeGRANTED I dont have a job in this yet but I've been in the serious applicant pools with just programming and experience12:41
Stee|delinquentme: couldn't find a job12:41
Stee|wasn't a programmer12:41
delinquentmetook me 3 months12:42
Stee|eh12:42
Stee|I got into grad school12:42
Stee|learned some sweet new math12:42
Stee|http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-02-physicists-magnetic-breakthrough.html12:44
Mokbortolan_yeah, that'll get squirreled away12:45
Mokbortolan_I think corporations bank up technological progress12:46
Mokbortolan_so they can maintain a steady rate of advancement, rather than fits and starts12:46
Mokbortolan_http://www.darpa.mil/NewsEvents/Releases/2012/02/07.aspx13:11
@kanzurethis url is also non-self-describing13:13
@kanzurecan you please at least explain links that you dump that aren't self-explanatory13:13
@kanzureyoutube links are some of the worst13:13
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Mokbortolan_sorry13:15
Mokbortolan_it's an article about BigDog's bigger brother13:15
* Mokbortolan_ is looking forward to effective robotic servants/dogs.13:17
jrayhawkmake gnusha print <title> contents13:17
Mokbortolan_I want an Aibo with teeth!13:17
jrayhawkalso, randomly replace words with futurist buzzwords13:17
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Mokbortolan_if anybody feels the need for useless internet points, they can always get "A Novel Array-Type Transcranial Direct Current Stimulation (tDCS) System for Accurate Focusing on Targeted Brain Areas" for me :)13:23
superkuhWatch this post, Mokbortolan_. http://www.reddit.com/r/Scholar/comments/pgt4q/request_a_novel_arraytype_transcranial_direct/13:29
Mokbortolan_Thanks!13:30
Mokbortolan_Oh neat, didn't know about that13:30
strageshere are two papers that cited that one http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&lr=&cites=11218353694130818345&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=l-oyT7DoFefksQK23dHyBg&sa=X&oi=science_links&ct=sl-citedby&resnum=1&ved=0CDUQzgIwAA13:40
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@kanzurejrayhawk: no, i don't want a bot printing link titles all the time13:47
@kanzurethat's what happened with epitron's dumb bot13:47
Mokbortolan_superkuh: thanks!13:47
@kanzureon13:47
@kanzurehttp://somesite.com/a-new-method-for-radiation13:47
epitronkanzure: ur mom's a dumb bot13:47
@kanzure<epibot9000> A NEW METHOD FOR RADIATION13:47
epitronhttp://t.co/asd342283713:48
epitronso descriptive13:48
jrayhawkSo give it a "if at least fifty percent of the words in the <title> element show up in the URL, do not print the title" heuristic13:48
epitroni offered to tweak it so it only showed titles for certain sites13:48
jrayhawknot that hard13:48
@kanzureepitron: but you didn't do it13:48
epitronBECAUSE YOU REFUSED MY OFFER13:48
jrayhawkit's true!13:48
epitronON THE PRINCIPLE OF OMG STUPID BOT13:48
@kanzureoh i probably had a reason for that13:48
jrayhawkkanzure is a big doody head13:48
@kanzuresure13:48
epitronreason: you're a jerk ^_^13:49
@kanzurei don't deny /that/13:49
Stee|run it through smmry.com?13:49
jrayhawkalthough i think several other people were objecting as well13:49
jrayhawkbut frankly those people can just use /ignore13:49
epitronStee|: ooo... i like the idea of smmry... does it work well?13:51
Stee|there's a bot on reddit that uses it13:51
Stee|It's okay, not amazing13:51
epitronhmm... doesn't seem to be too good at extracting salient text from URLs13:53
epitronbut if you paste the text, it doesn't do too badly13:53
epitronit would be interesting to use it as a highlighter for an article13:53
epitronthen you could really see how well it does13:53
epitronalso, that could give the users the ability to give more fine-tuned feedback in the form of deleting highlights and making their own13:54
epitroninstead of "rate this summary"13:54
epitronwhich i can't imagine being very high fidelity :)13:55
epitron(in terms of the data you get)13:55
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@kanzuredelinquentme: are you around?14:13
Mokbortolan_no, he's asquare!14:17
Mokbortolan_ba-da-bum14:17
delinquentmeyeah14:19
delinquentmehttp://networkedblogs.com/tE6UQ << ?14:19
@kanzuredelinquentme: want to talk with the classpager guy?14:21
delinquentmesure!14:22
@kanzureok he's looking over your stuff. whatever.14:29
@kanzurebrb14:29
@kanzure"his web design is rather….. blue."14:31
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delinquentmehaha14:40
delinquentmehe wants a designer over everything else?14:40
@kanzurenope14:40
@kanzurehe14:41
delinquentmelike I CAN do design and I have examples... but thats a secondary to programming14:41
@kanzurehe's sick today, so do't expect much14:41
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superkuhMokbortolan_, http://www.mediafire.com/?3338ilt03r6gun6 <- the paper.15:02
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Mokbortolan_You sir, are not only a scholar and a gentleman, but a damned fine person to boot!15:09
superkuhThank the reddit scholar people.15:10
Mokbortolan_oh15:11
Mokbortolan_well, I'm sure you're awesome too :p15:11
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@kanzurenot too impressed: http://openplm.org/15:38
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JayDuggerGood evening, everyone.16:43
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@kanzurehah, 'crimes against the future of humanity'17:00
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@kanzureeudoxia: sup17:02
eudoxiahello kanz17:03
eudoxiayou were talking about the world future coincil?17:05
eudoxia'crimes against the future of humanity'17:05
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@kanzurejust a phrase i saw somewhere17:12
eudoxiaok17:12
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roksprokis there a geographical center of transhumanism?17:46
roksproklike a city where the community is really active?17:47
@kanzuresan francisco17:47
eudoxiawhat kanz said17:47
eudoxiait's where SIAI is, and BioCurious and where Alcor was before they moved to a more boring place due to fear of earthquakes17:48
@kanzuresingularityu, nasa17:48
@kanzurehalcyon molecular, noisebridge, techshop17:48
eudoxiawait a second since when is NASA in san francisco?17:48
@kanzurewell, it's nearby17:48
eudoxia:|17:48
roksprokcool thanks17:49
roksproknow the hard part: finding a way to get out there17:50
@kanzureyou should try an airplane17:50
@kanzurei go a few times a year for <$150/ticket17:51
roksprokthats pretty good17:51
roksprok*goes to look at flights/hotels/jobs/ in SF17:53
@kanzureairbnb18:03
roksproki hadn't heard of that before, thanks18:07
roksprokhave you had good experiences with it?18:07
roksproker...more a lack of bad experiences18:07
@kanzuretons of people use airbnb pretty well18:09
@kanzureanother option is couchsurfing.com but airbnb is bigger these days18:10
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@kanzurehi yashgaroth18:11
yashgarothhi kanzure18:11
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delinquentme<320:27
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klafka-mwow i hate gooddata sooo much20:33
delinquentmeis fusioning a word?20:35
delinquentmeim trying to make a FB post about how humans are so sexy20:35
yashgarothit is now20:35
@kanzurefu-sion-ha?20:35
delinquentmehumans man... fuck that humans are incapable shit.  Literally we're talking about suspending the fusioning core of a star within magnetic fields.20:36
delinquentme"fusioning"20:36
delinquentmeim trying to make it sound sexy:D20:36
@kanzuredon't you have better things to be doing o.o20:36
@kanzurearen't you supposed to be hacking bgi or something20:36
delinquentmeLOL ADVERTSING20:36
delinquentmei want to be able to speak like brian cox20:37
delinquentmeklafka-m, describe the insides of a star in 1 word20:37
delinquentmebrimstone falls short20:37
klafka-mhot20:37
delinquentmenothing the bible came up with can describe this20:37
delinquentmeklafka-m, good job gold star20:37
delinquentmeovereating makes you dumb20:37
delinquentmeLAWL!20:37
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@kanzurethe one word should be 'hydrothermophysics' or whatever the term is20:38
@kanzurehelioseismology?20:40
@kanzureno that wasn't it..20:40
@kanzureasteroseismology?20:40
klafka-msorry i'm too angry at this program20:42
Mokbortolan_delinquentme: you know what's crazy?20:44
Mokbortolan_the center of the sun doesn't get hot enough to support fusion20:44
delinquentmegod i love dubstep20:45
delinquentme...20:45
delinquentmewaht?20:45
Mokbortolan_therefore you should offer your soul to jesus20:45
delinquentmeare you sure?20:45
Mokbortolan_yes20:45
Mokbortolan_look it up20:45
delinquentmesun =?20:45
Mokbortolan_google knows all20:45
delinquentmewhats the process there20:45
Mokbortolan_a very good question!20:45
Mokbortolan_from what I read, it's something to do with quantum tunnelling20:45
delinquentmeThe energy of the Sun comes from nuclear fusion in20:45
Mokbortolan_you know what else?20:45
delinquentmelisten man20:46
Mokbortolan_the outer layers of the sun are hotter than the core!20:46
delinquentmehttp://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100621184305AAPT3V020:46
delinquentmethats SCIENCE20:46
Mokbortolan_hahaha20:46
Mokbortolan_yes, fusion occurs in the sun, but the mechanism is, apparently, not what the tokamak is going to do20:46
delinquentmeMokbortolan_, i think you're trying to mindfuck me20:46
delinquentmeIM FRAGILE OKE!?20:46
Mokbortolan_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS1dpowPlE820:47
delinquentmeGAAAHHh quantummmm20:47
delinquentmeWHAT20:49
delinquentmeWAHT20:49
delinquentmeok nol20:49
delinquentmeno.20:49
delinquentmei have things i need to DO.20:49
delinquentmeCURSE you Mokbortolan_20:49
Mokbortolan_REDDIT20:49
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delinquentmeROAARRRR NOOOOOOOOO20:49
* Mokbortolan_ directs you to TVTropes.com20:49
delinquentmehttp://i.imgur.com/x3ft9.png20:50
delinquentmeMokbortolan_, ^^20:50
Mokbortolan_awesome20:51
delinquentmeguys.20:52
delinquentmeI dont want to die20:52
delinquentmefuck that shit20:52
Stee|agreed20:53
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delinquentmeTHIS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7-XLL3nbYU21:02
delinquentmeis what a fusion core is like21:02
delinquentme=]21:02
delinquentmeStee|, do it. fucking rage. ~:D21:02
Stee|I'm not building a goddamn fusion device.21:10
Stee|unless my job tells me to21:10
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@kanzurewtf is wrong with him21:44
@kanzuredid someone break him?21:45
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delinquentmehes vomming on himself21:56
delinquentmetoo much food21:56
delinquentmeklafka, du need me to syphon some of that gut juice?21:56
delinquentmecreamofsumyungi21:56
klafka?21:57
delinquentmeADMINISTRATION AND RESOURCES WORK in the API21:57
delinquentmeLAWL21:58
delinquentmeWOERKS21:58
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@kanzurethat's what we call a raving mad man.21:59
klafkaheh22:01
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delinquentme:P22:01
Mokbortolan_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN21Qkl1bxM22:18
@kanzureMokbortolan_: what is it22:19
Mokbortolan_conceptual analysis of madonna's half-time show22:20
roksproksuperbowl halftime show = america will collapse?22:20
Mokbortolan_I don't agree with one part, but the rest seems interesting22:20
Mokbortolan_I hadn't actually seen her performance22:20
roksproki feel like he uses loaded words to make history line up with his worldview22:21
roksprokfor example, he claims that the occupied terroritories of rome used terrorism22:21
Mokbortolan_yeah22:22
Mokbortolan_they were probably just attacks on soldiers22:22
Mokbortolan_insurgence22:22
roksproki guess you could compare the jewish revolts to muslim insurgents in pakistan and afghanistan22:23
Mokbortolan_I suppose she's been doing this long enough to develop some complexity22:24
roksprokyea its kind of unfortunate that all everyone talked about was mia flipping people off22:25
Mokbortolan_madonna shoulda shown her boobs22:25
Mokbortolan_that would have overshadowed everything22:26
roksprokthat would be much better than whoever had the wardrobe malfunction a few years ago22:26
delinquentmeTHIS guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyfDdsWu6Qs22:26
Mokbortolan_wouldn't hear about egypt for a week22:26
delinquentmewolfgang gartner is kicking ass in the biz22:26
@kanzurehttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703730804576321331878555032.html22:27
@kanzure"The Man Who Played Rockefeller"22:27
@kanzurewas just showing klafka that.22:27
delinquentmehttp://omicsomics.blogspot.com/2012/02/2012-enter-nanopores.html22:31
delinquentme^ why pac bio is hurtin22:31
@kanzurenanopores have been upcoming for a few years now.. i don't think this is why pacbio is hurting22:31
delinquentmekanzure, that article .. how to con a rockerfeller?22:32
@kanzureno.. how someone fooled people into thinking he was a rockerfeller22:33
@kanzure*rockefeller22:33
Stee|kanzure, assuming you've already seen project bottlenose?22:34
@kanzuredepends on which one you're talking about..22:37
Stee|the echolocation one22:38
@kanzureperhaps not.. what's special about it?22:38
Stee|one of the dudes with magnets in his finger22:39
Stee|set up an ultrasonic rangefinder system22:39
Stee|that triggers a solenoid wrapped around the finger with the magnet in it22:39
Stee|http://www.youtube.com/user/inkydigit83?feature=watch22:39
@kanzurehrm. okay.22:40
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delinquentmefollow .. do you know23:03
delinquentmemaaaannn23:04
delinquentmefuck23:04
delinquentmei feel bad for people sometimes23:04
delinquentmehella cute little raver girl from FB just admitted herself to rehab23:05
* delinquentme feels bad23:05
Mokbortolan_well you ought to23:07
delinquentmeits like .. working with this song im listening to23:10
delinquentmecrazy music23:10
delinquentmehow does it do the things it does23:10
@kanzurei think you have an attraction to messed up chicks23:15
* kanzure sleeps23:16
@kanzureone day you won't see the sun rise (4am mix)23:18
@kanzurehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8h_2-ficgY23:18
delinquentmeanyone else ever feel like we're the fathers of things to come?23:23
delinquentmelike we literally could be the progeny of a new human race23:23
Stee|I do, then I realize a big company with a bigger budget will probably buy is out and put it in a shiny shell :)23:24
Stee|*buy us23:24
delinquentme:D23:26
yashgaroth:\23:26
delinquentme^ ?23:28
delinquentmelike i think about this alot whem im stoned23:29
@kanzureyou should be writing code and/or using high-powered cnc tools while stoned23:29
delinquentmegranted youcan only help people so far23:29
delinquentmelol im writing high powerer API code :D23:29
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