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| utopiah_ | MITx 1st course: 6.002x (Circuits and Electronics) https://6002x.mitx.mit.edu | 00:08 |
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| delinquentme | http://pacb.com/sites/default/files/pdf/TechnicalNote_DeNovo_and_Hybrid_Assembly.pdf < pac bio has some new stuff going on | 05:54 |
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| JayDugger | Good morning, everyone, | 06:29 |
| delinquentme | ^^^ JayDugger | 06:34 |
| delinquentme | hev some motivation http://imgur.com/uTGmU | 06:36 |
| JayDugger | Meh... | 06:49 |
| JayDugger | Cars don't do it for me. | 06:49 |
| delinquentme | women? | 06:52 |
| delinquentme | boy + machine = my love of robots | 06:52 |
| delinquentme | jay^ | 06:52 |
| JayDugger | Happily married, and I already have a car payment. :) | 06:52 |
| delinquentme | oic oic | 06:52 |
| delinquentme | so what motivates you | 06:52 |
| delinquentme | ? | 06:52 |
| JayDugger | http://www.flickr.com/photos/jay_dugger/5394680120/ | 06:54 |
| delinquentme | kids? | 06:56 |
| delinquentme | HA | 06:56 |
| delinquentme | better answer | 06:56 |
| JayDugger | Fortunately, no. | 06:56 |
| delinquentme | is that you? | 06:57 |
| delinquentme | yeah it says jay | 06:57 |
| delinquentme | haha | 06:57 |
| klafka | delinquentme pm | 06:58 |
| delinquentme | JayDugger, http://www.flickr.com/photos/jay_dugger/5289969676/in/photostream/ | 07:00 |
| delinquentme | awesome. | 07:00 |
| delinquentme | this is me http://www.facebook.com/delinquentme now were on a more name ot name basis ! | 07:00 |
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| @kanzure | Printed Circuit Boards, design, Fabrication, Assembly and Testing | 08:58 |
| @kanzure | http://faculty.yu.edu.jo/myhomari/default.aspx?pg=c94d397c-06fd-4dfc-a4d5-7d5c25eccb06 | 08:58 |
| @kanzure | http://faculty.yu.edu.jo/myhomari/DownloadHandler.ashx?pg=c94d397c-06fd-4dfc-a4d5-7d5c25eccb06§ion=42729406-cfec-441e-b5c2-1cdcef41f57d&file=Printed+Circuit+Boards.pdf | 08:58 |
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| @kanzure | http://groups.csail.mit.edu/cag/micado/index.html autocad plugin for microfluidics | 09:46 |
| chris_99 | just found this synthesizer on ebay for £634 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/350522975085?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 | 09:49 |
| @kanzure | welp, a bit expensive to not know if it works | 09:50 |
| @kanzure | does it come with the manual? | 09:51 |
| chris_99 | not sure, its not very informative | 09:51 |
| chris_99 | the listing | 09:51 |
| @kanzure | are you physically near it? | 09:51 |
| chris_99 | nah, alas not | 09:51 |
| chris_99 | im in the uk | 09:51 |
| @kanzure | atlanta? | 09:51 |
| chris_99 | just thought it seemed a reasonable price | 09:52 |
| @kanzure | who do i know in atlanta.. one sec | 09:52 |
| chris_99 | oh noone | 09:52 |
| @kanzure | it's only reasonably if you have tools/material to fix it | 09:52 |
| @kanzure | if it's working, it's a steal | 09:52 |
| chris_99 | it sounds like its working but you wouldnt know for sure | 09:52 |
| @kanzure | ok ybit is near it | 09:53 |
| @kanzure | ybit: how do you feel about a road trip | 09:53 |
| @kanzure | huntsville to atlanta is only 4 hours | 09:54 |
| chris_99 | would i be right in thinking you can use a gene gun to inject the oligos from that into say a plant cell etc. | 09:54 |
| @kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_gun#Plants | 09:55 |
| @kanzure | you should use agrobacterium for plant transfections but a gene gun could work | 09:55 |
| * Mokbortolan_ sets his Gene Gun for "Sonic Hedgehog" | 09:56 | |
| chris_99 | aha interesting | 09:56 |
| chris_99 | is there any must read book on dna synthesis per chance, that explains it in, an introductory way | 09:57 |
| @kanzure | wikipedia's article | 09:57 |
| @kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligonucleotide_synthesis | 09:57 |
| chris_99 | cheers | 09:58 |
| @kanzure | the references at the bottom are helpful, | 09:58 |
| @kanzure | and also http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/DNA/ | 09:58 |
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| chris_99 | is that your site btw? | 09:59 |
| @kanzure | yes | 09:59 |
| chris_99 | :) | 10:00 |
| @kanzure | a 'historical introduction' would be the nobel prize speech | 10:01 |
| @kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/DNA/Nobel%20lecture%20-%20Solid%20phase%20synthesis%20-%201984%20-%20Merrifield.pdf | 10:01 |
| @kanzure | btw i suggest you take lots of notes and make lots of diagrams | 10:02 |
| @kanzure | and then upload these to the interwebs. | 10:02 |
| @kanzure | review article http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/DNA/Oligo-%20and%20poly-nucleotides%20-%2050%20years%20of%20chemical%20synthesis%20-%202005.pdf | 10:02 |
| chris_99 | thanks! yeah making notes would help me learn it too | 10:03 |
| @kanzure | what would be really helpful is if you try to find discrepancies between the different methods | 10:04 |
| @kanzure | make sure you can follow where each atom is going in each reaction step | 10:04 |
| @kanzure | and following the electrons would be nice to do as well | 10:04 |
| @kanzure | listing out each reagent, reaction conditions, reaction times, wash steps, etc. | 10:05 |
| @kanzure | i think there's: phosphate diester, phosphate triester, phosphite triester, phosphoramidite.. just for starters | 10:06 |
| @kanzure | phosphite triester: R. L. Letsinger and W. B. Lunsford, J. Am. Chem. Soc. 98, 3655 (1976). | 10:07 |
| @kanzure | phosphate triester: R. L. Letsinger and V. Mahadevan, ibid. 88, 5319 (1966) | 10:07 |
| @kanzure | oh this one is weird.. Gryaznov, S. M.; Letsinger, R. L. (1991). "Synthesis of oligonucleotides via monomers with unprotected bases". J. Amer. Chem. Soc. 113 (15): 5876–5877. doi:10.1021/ja00015a059. | 10:09 |
| @kanzure | http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ja00015a059 | 10:09 |
| chris_99 | cheers!, just thinking what i might do it concatenate a load of these pdfs together and get lulu.com to make it into a little book to read | 10:09 |
| @kanzure | you could just ask me. | 10:10 |
| @kanzure | chris_99: 41 MB http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/DNA/combination.pdf | 10:13 |
| chris_99 | ah cool :) | 10:13 |
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| @kanzure | DNA synthesis without base protection http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/0471142700.nc0310s18/full | 10:30 |
| @kanzure | "DNA synthesis can be achieved by using O-selective methods for internucleotide bond formation. This greatly simplifies the synthesis of oligodeoxyribonucleotides by eliminating the need for nucleobase protection and deprotection steps." | 10:30 |
| @kanzure | "This unit describes strategies that can be used for DNA synthesis without base protection. The discussion includes synthesis of phosphoramidite and H-phosphonate monomers, solid-phase assembly by the phosphoramidite and H-phosphonate methods, and future prospects for DNA synthesis using N-unprotected approaches." | 10:30 |
| @kanzure | "Using this strategy, it was calculated that 16 air channels were enough to control (or address) 12870 reactors" | 10:37 |
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| Mokbortolan_ | Relevant comic: http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2519 | 10:41 |
| @kanzure | that 12870 reactor paper: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/microfluidics/synthesis/A%20versatile%20microreactor%20platform%20featuring%20a%20chemical-resistant%20microvalve%20array%20for%20addressable%20multiplex%20syntheses%20and%20assays.pdf | 10:44 |
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| @kanzure | chris_99: are you chris templeman | 12:29 |
| chris_99 | nope, not sure who that is | 12:30 |
| @kanzure | new guy on the diybio list. | 12:32 |
| chris_99 | aha | 12:32 |
| @kanzure | http://groups.google.com/group/diybio | 12:32 |
| chris_99 | cheers hadnt seen that | 12:33 |
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| @kanzure | oh brother http://singularityhub.com/2012/02/12/ray-kurzweil-running-for-president-seriously/ | 15:10 |
| chris_99 | heh | 15:11 |
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| @kanzure | http://www.longecity.org/forum/page/index.html/_/science/projects/cryopreservation-fundraiser-r36 | 16:56 |
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| Steel_ | I am back into the domain of wanting to murder my advisors as well as the anthropomorphization of my research | 17:23 |
| mag1strate | what did they do? | 17:31 |
| Steel_ | oh, it's more that I think I'm wandering down a useless path again | 17:31 |
| @kanzure | microelectrohydrodynamic jet printing, BUT IN 4 DIMENSIONS | 17:32 |
| mag1strate | what happened today for you to think that? | 17:32 |
| Steel_ | just | 17:33 |
| Steel_ | stupid fucking vortex rings | 17:33 |
| Steel_ | kanzure: I'm almost positive they're overcomplicating it | 17:33 |
| mag1strate | not working right? | 17:34 |
| @kanzure | just tell them that dean vortices are bullshit | 17:34 |
| Steel_ | not working right at all | 17:34 |
| Steel_ | instead of dissipating over time they're growing over time | 17:34 |
| @kanzure | is a vortex ring the same thing as a dean vortex | 17:35 |
| Steel_ | no, they're technically hill's spherical vortices I believe | 17:35 |
| mag1strate | How is it growing? | 17:36 |
| mag1strate | Exponentially? | 17:37 |
| Steel_ | weirdly :P | 17:37 |
| Steel_ | it shouldn't be growing at all | 17:37 |
| Steel_ | the energy should be decreasing from viscous dissipation | 17:37 |
| mag1strate | is the simulation factoring in the viscous dissipation | 17:37 |
| @kanzure | mag1strate: have we met? | 17:38 |
| Steel_ | he found the channel through my site | 17:38 |
| mag1strate | I have talked to you over this yesterday and the day before | 17:38 |
| mag1strate | but not in person | 17:39 |
| @kanzure | are you a biohacker or some other variant | 17:42 |
| mag1strate | nope lol | 17:42 |
| mag1strate | I have never tried biohacking on myself if that is what you mean | 17:42 |
| @kanzure | "on yourself" no i meant in general | 17:42 |
| @kanzure | are you a biologist? | 17:42 |
| mag1strate | No I am an engineer | 17:42 |
| @kanzure | electronics engineer? | 17:43 |
| mag1strate | No polymer | 17:43 |
| @kanzure | oh right.. it would make sense that Steel_'s buddy would be a materials person too | 17:43 |
| Steel_ | I don't know him irl | 17:44 |
| Steel_ | haha | 17:44 |
| Steel_ | none of my irl friends on the site are in here yet | 17:44 |
| mag1strate | I just joined his site | 17:44 |
| mag1strate | lol | 17:44 |
| @kanzure | Steel_: nobody's perfect | 17:44 |
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| Steel_ | oh god, lolicon is your hostname? | 17:46 |
| mag1strate | why not? | 17:47 |
| Steel_ | @_@ | 17:47 |
| n_bentha | yeah, why not? | 17:47 |
| Steel_ | I wish I could do easy look of disappointment with a couple keystrokes | 17:47 |
| Steel_ | :P | 17:47 |
| mag1strate | lol thats nearly the same | 17:48 |
| alfalfa | hi | 17:49 |
| alfalfa | i came to swagger | 17:49 |
| mag1strate | hey | 17:49 |
| Steel_ | oh god damnit | 17:49 |
| n_bentha | heya! | 17:49 |
| alfalfa | lol | 17:49 |
| Steel_ | kanzure, why not +b | 17:49 |
| mag1strate | lol | 17:49 |
| n_bentha | steel_ you're just jelly u don't have a cool hostname like mine | 17:49 |
| Steel_ | I wouldn't be happy with lolicon next to my name, bro | 17:50 |
| n_bentha | funny, cuz this is the internet | 17:50 |
| alfalfa | so what u guys doing all day long? | 17:50 |
| alfalfa | studying biology all the time?^^ | 17:51 |
| n_bentha | lab meetings, class, etc | 17:51 |
| alfalfa | sounds intresting, what u doing at ur lab meetings? | 17:51 |
| mag1strate | Trying to learn fluid tensor | 17:51 |
| d3nd3 | alfalfa what are you doing all day long also i am interested ? | 17:52 |
| alfalfa | im swaggering ; ) | 17:52 |
| Steel_ | well | 17:52 |
| Steel_ | I got out of bed late because I was fucking tired | 17:53 |
| Steel_ | then I did research | 17:53 |
| Steel_ | then I went to the gym and dance | 17:53 |
| Steel_ | and now I'm doing research again | 17:53 |
| mag1strate | dance? | 17:53 |
| d3nd3 | what is research ? | 17:53 |
| alfalfa | bed late huh? i woke up when the sun went down rofl | 17:53 |
| alfalfa | vampire style | 17:53 |
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| Steel_ | mag1strate: I'm a competitive dancer | 17:53 |
| d3nd3 | why are you doing research ? | 17:54 |
| n_bentha | why u ask questions?1 | 17:54 |
| Steel_ | my two non-academic hobbies are weightlifting and dance | 17:54 |
| Steel_ | or, noncomputer hobbies, whatever | 17:54 |
| alfalfa | so Steel_ if ur not female i shall call you gay from now on ;) | 17:54 |
| d3nd3 | because i want to | 17:54 |
| alfalfa | the stereotype judgement on male dancers :D | 17:54 |
| Steel_ | Shit, dude, dancing is the manliest sport :P | 17:54 |
| alfalfa | can u rename people here? i must add a "gay" to a certain persons name tag | 17:55 |
| d3nd3 | how can a weightlifter dance | 17:55 |
| d3nd3 | sounds stupid | 17:55 |
| d3nd3 | i picture a gorilla doing ballet | 17:55 |
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| @kanzure | the fuck is that shit | 17:55 |
| jrayhawk | haha | 17:55 |
| Steel_ | I should stop feeding the trolls, sorry | 17:55 |
| @kanzure | Steel_: for the record, gorilla hair is not ok in bodybuilding | 17:56 |
| Steel_ | hahah | 17:56 |
| jrayhawk | yes, the gorillas get very resentful when you take their hair | 17:56 |
| Steel_ | I don't do bodybuilding :P | 17:56 |
| mag1strate | Steel_: Thats really cool, what kind of dance do you do? | 17:57 |
| mag1strate | I do specifically crossfit if anyone has ever heard of that | 17:57 |
| @kanzure | oh right, weightlifting | 17:57 |
| jrayhawk | I occasionally consider doing crossfit. | 17:57 |
| Steel_ | I occasionally consider doing crossfit then laugh :P | 17:57 |
| Steel_ | and steal their methods | 17:57 |
| mag1strate | lol | 17:57 |
| Steel_ | but not their setup | 17:57 |
| Steel_ | because it's dumb | 17:57 |
| mag1strate | like what? | 17:58 |
| mag1strate | I think its pretty good | 17:58 |
| Steel_ | overuse/torque of shoulder, one size fits all, insufficient program scaling, poor form, etc. are all symptomatic of crossfit | 17:58 |
| mag1strate | jrayhawk: Do you ever do any of the workouts | 17:58 |
| Steel_ | on the other hand, they do well with crosstraining and muscular confusion | 17:58 |
| mag1strate | The crossfit gym I go to is really good at scaling stuff for everyone, so that has never been a problem for me | 17:59 |
| jrayhawk | Steel_: That's sortof gym-dependant. | 17:59 |
| jrayhawk | I suppose crossfit HQ does have a bad habit of catering to the craziest minority. | 17:59 |
| mag1strate | They are pretty good with form too. All have had olympic weight lifting certification or experience | 17:59 |
| Steel_ | I also don't trust the actual crossfit certs, I'd require outside cert | 18:00 |
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| Steel_ | my problem isn't with individual boxes | 18:00 |
| Steel_ | my problem is with the movement | 18:00 |
| Steel_ | the boxes near yashgaroth, for instance, are fantastic | 18:00 |
| Steel_ | I have a friend that goes to one | 18:00 |
| yashgaroth | wut | 18:00 |
| mag1strate | yeah most of the people who train us are experts on lifting before crossfit | 18:00 |
| Steel_ | (crossfit) | 18:00 |
| mag1strate | so thats one of the good parts about my box | 18:01 |
| Steel_ | the whole brand name fitness shit is stupid and causes injury though | 18:01 |
| yashgaroth | define boxes please | 18:01 |
| mag1strate | Its another name for a gym that specialises in crossfit | 18:01 |
| mag1strate | a dumb nickname | 18:01 |
| yashgaroth | what are the good ones near me steel? if I ever get less lazy | 18:02 |
| ybit | chris_99: atl is a bit far, but i'm sure someone in #freesideatl would be willing to help | 18:02 |
| Steel_ | yashgaroth: crossfit 818 | 18:02 |
| Steel_ | is where my friend goes | 18:02 |
| Steel_ | she went to back alley fitness but it closed down | 18:02 |
| mag1strate | sounds shady | 18:02 |
| yashgaroth | I was gonna say^ | 18:02 |
| Steel_ | nah | 18:03 |
| jrayhawk | Sounds like my kind of operation! | 18:03 |
| Steel_ | just small | 18:03 |
| Steel_ | like ~30 people | 18:03 |
| yashgaroth | "dark alley fitness" | 18:03 |
| mag1strate | yeah that would be the shady one | 18:03 |
| Steel_ | it ran out of a garage, super compact/modular | 18:03 |
| @kanzure | i should add kung fu to the transhumanist bootcamp curriculum | 18:03 |
| Steel_ | bah, kung fu | 18:03 |
| jrayhawk | "try not to get mugged on the way in fitness" | 18:03 |
| jrayhawk | "also try to avoid making eye contact with the management fitness" | 18:03 |
| @kanzure | it's the only one where you have reasons to yell about qi all the time | 18:03 |
| Steel_ | TKD has ki yells :P | 18:04 |
| @kanzure | "definitely not selling roids fitness" am i doing this right | 18:04 |
| Steel_ | bah | 18:04 |
| jrayhawk | I would sign up for all of these. | 18:04 |
| Steel_ | they were okay dudes | 18:04 |
| mag1strate | jrayhawk: lol | 18:05 |
| mag1strate | @kanzure: are you active in kung fu? | 18:06 |
| n_bentha | kung fu is the bomb | 18:07 |
| Steel_ | I'd like to try Jeet Kun Do | 18:08 |
| @kanzure | mag1strate: no | 18:08 |
| mag1strate | Steel_: There aren't many places that teach that I don't think | 18:09 |
| Steel_ | DC has one | 18:09 |
| Steel_ | along with some...other stuff | 18:10 |
| mag1strate | do you live in DC | 18:10 |
| Steel_ | I will in a couple months | 18:11 |
| n_bentha | steel_ : there is no jeet kun do! | 18:11 |
| jrayhawk | It's a myth! Like the easter bunny, or bipartisanship! | 18:12 |
| n_bentha | yea. it's just a philosophy. if u want to do jeet kun do, then u haev to study all the forms of martial arts and spar alot and mix it up and find what works for you | 18:13 |
| Steel_ | there's still a lot of useful stuff in it about how to strip out the parts of other arts | 18:14 |
| mag1strate | thats because JEet Kun do is a mix of a bunch of different styles | 18:14 |
| mag1strate | its more about practicality than elegance | 18:14 |
| Steel_ | I'd do MT but honestly I don't have the shin strength it takes to do it right | 18:15 |
| Steel_ | the whole kicking trees for 10 years thing | 18:15 |
| jrayhawk | Eh, just do MMA. Lots of crazy cross-disciplinary stuff there. | 18:15 |
| mag1strate | Yeah I hear that is pretty intense on the shins | 18:15 |
| n_bentha | yes. | 18:15 |
| n_bentha | u gotta smack the bag until you're bruised up | 18:16 |
| n_bentha | and then do it more | 18:16 |
| mag1strate | fun... | 18:16 |
| mag1strate | then again I do crossfit 6 days a week so I can't really say I know what fun is :P | 18:16 |
| jrayhawk | good lord | 18:17 |
| jrayhawk | that sounds unhealthy | 18:17 |
| mag1strate | not really | 18:17 |
| mag1strate | I am fine | 18:17 |
| mag1strate | but thats probably because I have been doing it for 2.5 years now | 18:17 |
| n_bentha | The idea of training your shins like that is similar to Kung Fu. They train their bodies to be rock-hard, too. That way, you become the weapon. | 18:18 |
| Steel_ | I do 3 on 1 off for heavy lifting | 18:19 |
| Steel_ | but I also dance 6 days a week | 18:19 |
| mag1strate | what type of dance? | 18:19 |
| jrayhawk | Heavy lifting generally isn't as cortisol-inducing as crossfit crap | 18:19 |
| jrayhawk | It's easy to overtrain on crossfit even three days a week. | 18:20 |
| mag1strate | Not really | 18:20 |
| Steel_ | mag1strate: ballroom | 18:20 |
| mag1strate | most of the pros workout 2-3 times a day | 18:20 |
| mag1strate | really? | 18:20 |
| Steel_ | so I do (to one degree or another) all 19 competitive dancesport dances | 18:20 |
| Steel_ | although I'm terrible at International Latin | 18:20 |
| mag1strate | thats actually really cool | 18:20 |
| mag1strate | Ive actually wanted to try dance | 18:20 |
| Steel_ | most crossfit pros don't follow 'actual' crossfit :P | 18:21 |
| jrayhawk | Yes, but the pros have decided to sacrifice their lives for competition in the crossfit games. Doing so involves being perpetually injured until shortly beforehand. | 18:21 |
| n_bentha | pain is good! | 18:21 |
| mag1strate | yeah I know | 18:21 |
| mag1strate | lol NO PAIN NO GAIN | 18:21 |
| n_bentha | yeah... | 18:21 |
| n_bentha | but i pushed myself too hard | 18:21 |
| mag1strate | lol | 18:21 |
| mag1strate | Steel_: Will you show me how to dance | 18:22 |
| mag1strate | ? | 18:22 |
| mag1strate | <# | 18:22 |
| mag1strate | <3 | 18:22 |
| Steel_ | Sure :P | 18:23 |
| mag1strate | lol | 18:23 |
| Steel_ | I'll take everyone who makes it to a conference of our choosing out to dance :P | 18:23 |
| mag1strate | Actually I have a good friend in dance | 18:23 |
| mag1strate | she might help | 18:24 |
| Steel_ | mag1strate: I responded to your post on beat meditation | 18:24 |
| mag1strate | ok ill check it out | 18:24 |
| mag1strate | thanks btw | 18:24 |
| jrayhawk | "Our newest member Blarghonk" | 18:27 |
| jrayhawk | Respect goes out to Blarghonk. Keep being Blarghonk. | 18:27 |
| mag1strate | This is on the site | 18:28 |
| mag1strate | ? | 18:28 |
| Steel_ | yah | 18:28 |
| Steel_ | blarghonk is from another channel I'm in | 18:28 |
| mag1strate | nice | 18:28 |
| mag1strate | how many members do we have? | 18:29 |
| Steel_ | 36 registered, a dozen or so active atm | 18:30 |
| mag1strate | hmmm I thought we had more for some reason | 18:30 |
| Steel_ | if you count bots there are | 18:31 |
| mag1strate | there are bots? | 18:32 |
| @kanzure | there are always bots on forums | 18:33 |
| @kanzure | example: xrumer | 18:33 |
| mag1strate | for what? | 18:33 |
| @kanzure | spamming | 18:33 |
| Steel_ | err, no, these are spiders/robots | 18:34 |
| mag1strate | i hate spiders | 18:34 |
| n_bentha | <3 arachna | 18:34 |
| mag1strate | They are cool, until they get to your hand size big | 18:35 |
| n_bentha | ya but not as cool as Amblypygi | 18:36 |
| mag1strate | what is that | 18:37 |
| n_bentha | your google-fu is lacking, magistrarte | 18:37 |
| n_bentha | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amblypygi | 18:37 |
| mag1strate | WTF IS THAT | 18:38 |
| sylph_mako | Did someone say spiders? | 18:39 |
| sylph_mako | I've got a whole bunch of spiders on the outside of one of my walls. | 18:39 |
| mag1strate | no, amblypygi | 18:39 |
| sylph_mako | When I first saw them, I thought they were ants. | 18:39 |
| mag1strate | the spiders or the amblypygi | 18:40 |
| sylph_mako | the spiders. | 18:40 |
| sylph_mako | They seemed to be... cooperating. | 18:40 |
| jrayhawk | Some spiders are colonial. | 18:41 |
| jrayhawk | But more likely these spiders are just united against a common enemy: | 18:41 |
| jrayhawk | Your sanity. | 18:41 |
| mag1strate | THEY ARE COMING TOGETHER | 18:42 |
| mag1strate | THEY WILL RID THE WORLD OF THE PLIGHT THAT IS HUMANS | 18:42 |
| mag1strate | SOON WE WILL WORSHIP QUEEN ARACHNIA | 18:42 |
| mag1strate | AND HER RULE WILL BE GREAT | 18:42 |
| mag1strate | AMEN | 18:42 |
| n_bentha | amblypygi will defeat the spiders! | 18:43 |
| mag1strate | NO ONE WILL DESTROY OUR QUEEN | 18:43 |
| foucist | most excellent | 18:45 |
| n_bentha | i, for one, welcome our new amblypygi overlords | 18:45 |
| mag1strate | ALL HAIL OUR ARACHNID OVERLORDS | 18:46 |
| n_bentha | spider-man will be our ambassador | 18:48 |
| mag1strate | I welcome this change | 18:48 |
| sylph_mako | Why not man-spider? | 18:48 |
| mag1strate | because since we are ruled by spiders | 18:48 |
| mag1strate | we must show them respect and put their suffix in front | 18:48 |
| sylph_mako | http://images.wikia.com/marvelanimated/images/5/5d/Man-Spider.jpg | 18:50 |
| sylph_mako | a far better candidate. | 18:50 |
| Steel_ | So, taserball is A Thing. | 18:50 |
| mag1strate | I guess, but he won't be able to relate to the human | 18:50 |
| mag1strate | s | 18:51 |
| sylph_mako | Steel_, tell more taserball. | 18:54 |
| Steel_ | http://www.craveonline.com/sports/articles/182925-ultimate-taser-ball-best-pro-sport-ever | 18:54 |
| mag1strate | ...its like rugby with electricity | 18:56 |
| Steel_ | yup | 18:57 |
| mag1strate | These guys look nuts for doing this... | 18:57 |
| roksprok | don't tazers randomly kill someone every few months? | 18:59 |
| n_bentha | yes | 18:59 |
| sylph_mako | I don't think it counts as a thing if it's going to stop being a thing in as little as one generation. | 19:00 |
| sylph_mako | ok no that's a poor rule. | 19:00 |
| Steel_ | these are depowered dtasers | 19:00 |
| Steel_ | *tasers | 19:00 |
| mag1strate | survival of the fittest | 19:00 |
| n_bentha | that's ridiculous | 19:01 |
| mag1strate | This could be fun... | 19:01 |
| mag1strate | ...for just one game | 19:01 |
| mag1strate | or it might have seemed like a good idea on paper | 19:02 |
| roksprok | mag1strate: i agree | 19:02 |
| sylph_mako | yeah.. | 19:02 |
| roksprok | i doubt your chances of dieing are higher than bungee jumping or parachuting | 19:03 |
| roksprok | or freeclimbing | 19:03 |
| mag1strate | To be honest I would do this taser sport before anything you just listed | 19:03 |
| jrayhawk | Bungee jump deaths are very, very rare. | 19:04 |
| Steel_ | eh, I've shocked the shit out of myself before | 19:04 |
| mag1strate | how? | 19:04 |
| Steel_ | capacitor on tiny railgun | 19:06 |
| Steel_ | wasn't fully discharged | 19:06 |
| Steel_ | I went full retard | 19:06 |
| n_bentha | sticking paperclips in the outlets | 19:06 |
| mag1strate | @_@ | 19:06 |
| mag1strate | n_bentha: Is this true? | 19:08 |
| n_bentha | maybe? | 19:09 |
| n_bentha | yes | 19:09 |
| mag1strate | curious kid? | 19:11 |
| n_bentha | boredom | 19:12 |
| mag1strate | eh then it's ok | 19:13 |
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| @kanzure | "In 1995, upon Andre Marion retirement, Mike Hunkapiller became President of PE Applied Biosystems Division which sold its 30,000th thermal cycler." | 20:46 |
| yashgaroth | his name is actually Mike Studcolumn | 21:05 |
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| @kanzure | mike studcolumn.. right. | 21:59 |
| ygh | alternatively, mike Slabsupportbeam | 22:01 |
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| @kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/DNA/synthesis.html | 22:01 |
| * kanzure puts on his "i'm obviously an organic chemist" glasses | 22:02 | |
| yashgaroth | oh man fuck ochem | 22:03 |
| @kanzure | in soviet russia, ochem fucks you | 22:04 |
| @kanzure | plus lots of other magical shit they believed in | 22:04 |
| yashgaroth | phage therapy lololol | 22:04 |
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| roksprok | why is phage therapy bad? | 22:44 |
| yashgaroth | several reasons, but mostly because your body will react to the phage and destroy it instead of the bacteria | 22:48 |
| roksprok | aren't there phages that don't activate the immune system? | 22:50 |
| yashgaroth | only if you have a crap immune system | 22:50 |
| roksprok | so we don't have a bunch of phages living in us like we do bacteria? | 22:52 |
| roksprok | or, we have very few? | 22:52 |
| yashgaroth | sure, but that's inside your digestive tract, and bacteria are only really a concern if they get outside of that | 22:52 |
| roksprok | so bacteria is not really a pressing concern, outside of a few antibiotic resistant strains? | 22:54 |
| yashgaroth | oh it's a huge concern, the third world has been abusing antibiotics enough that TB and shit will be making a comeback in the next decade | 22:54 |
| yashgaroth | sadly, nothing is more promising for superbugs than phage therapy at the moment, so I shan't bash it too much | 22:58 |
| roksprok | that's depressing | 22:59 |
| roksprok | when the most promising answer sucks | 22:59 |
| yashgaroth | well, the government could subsidize more antibiotic research, but no companies will do it since they're easy to counterfeit | 23:00 |
| Mokbortolan_ | why does phage therapy suck? | 23:00 |
| Mokbortolan_ | oh, n/m | 23:00 |
| Mokbortolan_ | are all beneficial bacteria constrained to the gut? | 23:01 |
| yashgaroth | and skin and mouth | 23:01 |
| Mokbortolan_ | there are some in mammary glands | 23:01 |
| Mokbortolan_ | what makes them immune, so to speak | 23:01 |
| yashgaroth | makes what immune | 23:02 |
| Mokbortolan_ | does the body attack your flora? | 23:02 |
| yashgaroth | not unless they get uppity | 23:02 |
| Mokbortolan_ | too bad we can't reprogram the immune system on the fly | 23:03 |
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| yashgaroth | it's a major field of research, since getting foreign enzymes to degrade atherosclerotic plaques etc. is hindered mostly by the inevitable immune response | 23:04 |
| klafka | hey | 23:05 |
| yashgaroth | hi klafka | 23:05 |
| klafka | man it's scary i'm starting to read URI encoded jsonp queries | 23:08 |
| klafka | it's like i'm able to read the matrix n | 23:08 |
| klafka | now | 23:08 |
| delinquentme | ^^^ | 23:44 |
| delinquentme | BED | 23:44 |
| delinquentme | toodles all! | 23:44 |
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