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| kanzure | booop | 07:45 |
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| kanzure | boop | 09:48 |
| Mokbortolan_ | Poop. | 09:52 |
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| Mokbortolan_ | kanzure: is microwaved food safe, or is it a witch's brew of microwave-induced isomerized substances? | 09:53 |
| Mokbortolan_ | err, a witch's brew of microwave-induced isomerizations? | 09:54 |
| kanzure | i don't know i'm not paranoid enough | 09:54 |
| kanzure | something something about not microwaving plastic | 09:54 |
| Mokbortolan_ | I've read all these articles at "health" magazines, but I can't find any real research underlying the claims | 09:55 |
| kanzure | stop reading magazines :P | 09:55 |
| Mokbortolan_ | they're the only ones with the chutzpah to challenege the microwave-manufacturer oligarchy! :p | 09:55 |
| Mokbortolan_ | I've read about using microwaves in chemistry for a while | 09:56 |
| Mokbortolan_ | so I know it does change food chemically... | 09:57 |
| Mokbortolan_ | maybe I should do a mouse experiment with my daughter | 09:57 |
| kanzure | you could also consider doing a water microbe project with her | 09:57 |
| kanzure | go to some local water bodies, lakes, streams, oceans and gather some critters | 09:58 |
| kanzure | buy a nice microscope, take some videos | 09:58 |
| Mokbortolan_ | yeah! I did that in school | 09:58 |
| Mokbortolan_ | egg-yolk and paramecium | 09:58 |
| kanzure | see if you can raise them | 09:58 |
| kanzure | etc. as a kid i would have loved that (i still do) | 09:58 |
| kanzure | i was more of a bug catcher; i didn't know things were that small :( | 09:58 |
| Mokbortolan_ | I need to get a decent microscope | 09:58 |
| Mokbortolan_ | I read about an adult wasp... smaller than a paramecium | 09:58 |
| foucist | saw something about microwaves being less damaging on food than conventional means of heating, good for steaming veggies etc.. forget where though | 09:58 |
| Mokbortolan_ | 0.13mm | 09:59 |
| Mokbortolan_ | they hatch (and mate!) inside insect eggs | 09:59 |
| Mokbortolan_ | cant' remember what type of eggs, might be bees | 09:59 |
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| kanzure | why is dna-directed dna polymerase called "nucleotidyltransferase" | 10:14 |
| kanzure | what does -tidyl- have to do with it | 10:14 |
| uniqanomaly | http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8797/33108908.jpg nanotech company name idea | 10:17 |
| uniqanomaly | not mine | 10:17 |
| Mokbortolan_ | Nigerian Nanotech Inc. | 10:19 |
| Mokbortolan_ | ? | 10:19 |
| rkos | maybe it could be used in the movie 2016 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXYmFqEkCGQ | 10:19 |
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| kanzure | what about a series of switchable guanylyltransferases | 11:09 |
| kanzure | we'd need 16 switchable enzymes | 11:10 |
| kanzure | poly(n)-adenosine guanylyltransferases, poly(n)-guanine guanylyltransferases, poly(n)-thymine guanylyltransferases, poly(n)-cytosine guanylyltransferases | 11:11 |
| kanzure | unfortunately you would also have to wait for these to dissociate and for the next to attach when you switch your light over | 11:11 |
| kanzure | also, they don't exist. | 11:12 |
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| delinquentme | I might have to deploy this on amazon | 12:11 |
| delinquentme | hmmmm! | 12:11 |
| delinquentme | not sure if heroku lets free customers run javer | 12:11 |
| ParahSailin | any way to have google alert for google scholar? | 12:16 |
| kanzure | "A chimeric construct in which loop1 from TdT was inserted in Pol mu displays terminal transferase activity, but a largely reduced DNA-dependent polymerization" | 12:18 |
| ParahSailin | what do you guys think about adhd | 12:18 |
| kanzure | i think adhd is great | 12:18 |
| ParahSailin | not sure if i have it | 12:18 |
| delinquentme | ParahSailin, I think theres a big market for it | 12:19 |
| delinquentme | and if you're a hammer every problem looks like a nail | 12:19 |
| ParahSailin | adderall makes me superman | 12:19 |
| delinquentme | me too | 12:19 |
| delinquentme | but then again any anphetamine does | 12:20 |
| ParahSailin | i mean i can be lazy, and most of the stuff on dsm-iv would describe me | 12:20 |
| ParahSailin | i guess there's just a continuum of "energy level" as a temperamental trait | 12:20 |
| ParahSailin | motivation, akrasia, all that too | 12:20 |
| delinquentme | ParahSailin, i think ADHD is a combination of the fact we've got drugs for focus, parents with health insurance and college being shitty at engaging the students | 12:20 |
| rkos | i don't think you're ever going to get to the end of it if you try to think about whether someone really has a syndrome from the dsm or not | 12:21 |
| ParahSailin | but man the people in #/r/ADHD are pretty hostile to that idea | 12:21 |
| ParahSailin | the raging victimhood | 12:21 |
| kanzure | adhd+adderall is very different from not-adhd+adderall, from what i can tell | 12:21 |
| ParahSailin | "we are different in kind from you, not in degree" | 12:21 |
| delinquentme | ParahSailin, victimhood is awesome | 12:21 |
| delinquentme | its like an extension of religion! | 12:21 |
| delinquentme | im lazy! | 12:21 |
| delinquentme | but its not my FAULT | 12:21 |
| kanzure | ParahSailin: solution, stop reading reddit | 12:21 |
| delinquentme | YESSS | 12:21 |
| rkos | i tend to think that if someone can get some use out of CBT/drugs for their life then thats the only justification you need | 12:21 |
| delinquentme | dont reddit unless r/boobies | 12:22 |
| delinquentme | :P | 12:22 |
| Mokbortolan_ | yeah, there are very definite differences in the brains of people diagnosed with adhd and those who do not meet those criteria | 12:22 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, any idea if I can get java on heroku for a rails application? | 12:22 |
| rkos | no need to try to appeal to some god given normal state which you need medical assistance to reach | 12:22 |
| delinquentme | but i mean my life is so much better when things arent my fault | 12:23 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: no i think you have to choose a particular stack on heroku | 12:23 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: stop channeling redditisms in to here.. they aren't useful | 12:23 |
| Mokbortolan_ | and the characteristics for ADHD start in childhood and are a common thread throughout a sufferer's life | 12:24 |
| Mokbortolan_ | it's basically a developmental disorder | 12:24 |
| Mokbortolan_ | AFAIK | 12:24 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, motivation :P | 12:24 |
| delinquentme | but it doesnt work for everyone | 12:25 |
| ParahSailin | i guess "doesn't like to do things that are not very rewarding" is a disease now | 12:25 |
| kanzure | ParahSailin: i think you're talking about different things | 12:25 |
| delinquentme | ParahSailin, so when parents were taught | 12:25 |
| delinquentme | *NOSE TO THE GRINDSTONE* | 12:25 |
| delinquentme | eat shit till it tastes good! | 12:25 |
| ParahSailin | thats pretty much the conclusion i came to on my own, but i went to #/r/ADHD to get the contrary view | 12:25 |
| delinquentme | aka the military model | 12:25 |
| delinquentme | well yeah! | 12:25 |
| kanzure | adhd is presumably caused by some particularly different receptors on neuronal membranes | 12:25 |
| kanzure | any of the psychological explanations of adhd are bullshit | 12:26 |
| delinquentme | who wants to be emotionally raptured when you can just eat shit day in and day out | 12:26 |
| kanzure | it's like trying to explain schizophrenia with psychology | 12:26 |
| rkos | well illness has never been an absolute | 12:26 |
| Mokbortolan_ | http://www.citeulike.org/user/xinian/article/1787262 | 12:26 |
| kanzure | i think you two are just being drawn into the reddit hype | 12:26 |
| kanzure | so i suggest you stop that.. | 12:26 |
| * delinquentme humps Mokbortolan_ 's leg | 12:27 | |
| * delinquentme mantra: composure | 12:27 | |
| delinquentme | Juul, you didnt host your RJB on heroku did you? | 12:27 |
| rkos | but there is no real test for ADHD kanzure | 12:28 |
| kanzure | rkos: you can do sequencing to determine what sort of mutations on receptors you have | 12:28 |
| rkos | so when you talk about ADHD you talk about a very large group of people that aren't defined by something concrete like different receptors | 12:28 |
| kanzure | are you talking about misdiagnosing people? | 12:29 |
| kanzure | or the disorder itsel | 12:29 |
| kanzure | *itself | 12:29 |
| rkos | well sequencing is not used in clinics and certainly not in psychiatry here at least | 12:29 |
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| delinquentme | ^^^ ADHD | 12:29 |
| ParahSailin | well a video i just watched gave fmri stuff about areas of the brain that dont light up for adhd | 12:30 |
| rkos | isn't ADHD defined by some list of symptoms instead of some concrete feature like the receptor thing? | 12:30 |
| kanzure | rkos: ok so how is that not a real test | 12:30 |
| kanzure | yes it's true that people make mistakes when diagnosing patients.. is that what you want to talk about ?? | 12:31 |
| rkos | i didn't even know there was any test for ADHD | 12:31 |
| ParahSailin | if its a receptor thing, then the only solution is chemical dependency? | 12:31 |
| kanzure | ParahSailin: not necessarily of course | 12:31 |
| Mokbortolan_ | "ADHD" will likely be split up into separate disorders in time | 12:32 |
| rkos | but i have a friend who has ADHD and he was just given meds after a few vists and no test | 12:32 |
| kanzure | rkos: to be fair, it's more like "here's a lot of shit that we observe in adhd versus controls" | 12:32 |
| Mokbortolan_ | mine is "ADHD - Predominantly Inattentive". I don't have any hyperactivity symptoms, for example | 12:32 |
| ParahSailin | because i'd like to solve my problems, but i dont trust the integrity of most docs | 12:32 |
| kanzure | Mokbortolan_: mine is adhd-hyperactive | 12:32 |
| ParahSailin | or the state of medical science for that matter | 12:32 |
| kanzure | ParahSailin: nor should you | 12:33 |
| Mokbortolan_ | you CAN use them to inform your own search for increased performance | 12:33 |
| ParahSailin | i dont know where to look for better info | 12:33 |
| ParahSailin | yah i guess i would be adhd-i as well | 12:34 |
| ParahSailin | what they used to call ADD | 12:34 |
| Mokbortolan_ | but I don't buy this whole transfer of responsibility to physicians | 12:34 |
| kanzure | how do you know that's not ADD | 12:34 |
| kanzure | ADD and ADHD definitely have differences | 12:34 |
| ParahSailin | dsm-iv calls add adhd-i | 12:34 |
| kanzure | hmmm is that so | 12:35 |
| ParahSailin | problem with adderall is that it makes me completely emotionally cold | 12:35 |
| Mokbortolan_ | the wiki on ADHD-PI is very good | 12:35 |
| kanzure | ParahSailin: that's odd, i'm sorry to hear that | 12:35 |
| Mokbortolan_ | adderall kills my creativity | 12:35 |
| Mokbortolan_ | and makes me socially weird | 12:35 |
| kanzure | kills your creativity? | 12:35 |
| kanzure | man i must have hit the jackpot | 12:35 |
| Mokbortolan_ | yep | 12:35 |
| ParahSailin | i wish i could turn on and off adderall mode for just when i needed it | 12:36 |
| Mokbortolan_ | I think (conceptually) it focuses activity, whereas normally I'm calling on regions spread throughout my brain | 12:36 |
| kanzure | also i tend to ignore anything that talks about adhd in terms of dopamine.. dopamine is such a cop-out answer | 12:36 |
| ParahSailin | i dont need to stay awake in the 2s and 3s am | 12:36 |
| kanzure | although talking about particular dopamine receptors might be ok | 12:36 |
| ParahSailin | i just need four hours of high focus work | 12:36 |
| Mokbortolan_ | so I can get better at the task at hand, but I can't reference other data useful in conceptual leaps | 12:36 |
| kanzure | ParahSailin: then use the smaller dosages? | 12:36 |
| kanzure | ParahSailin: i really like the enzyme engineering that went into this | 12:38 |
| rkos | or methylphenidate instead of adderall | 12:38 |
| kanzure | ParahSailin: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/polymerase/A%20specific%20loop%20in%20human%20DNA%20polymerase%20mu%20allows%20switching%20between%20creative%20and%20DNA-instructed%20synthesis.pdf | 12:38 |
| kanzure | "Conferring a template-dependent polymerase activity to terminal deoxynucleotidyltransferase by mutations in the Loop1 region" | 12:40 |
| kanzure | that's also cool^ | 12:41 |
| kanzure | "Class II enzymes (found in bacteria and eukaryotes) carry a flexible loop in their catalytic core required for switching the specificity of the nucleotide binding pocket from CTP- to ATP-recognition." | 12:43 |
| kanzure | stalk: Tom Hargreaves <hex@freezone.co.uk> | 12:51 |
| kanzure | http://sphere.chronosempire.org.uk/~HEx/tmp/prop.pdf | 12:51 |
| kanzure | "Light-dependent RNA polymerase: a research proposal" | 12:51 |
| kanzure | http://sphere.chronosempire.org.uk/~HEx/ | 12:53 |
| kanzure | also he makes sonic music :3 http://sphere.chronosempire.org.uk/~HEx/sonic/ | 12:54 |
| kanzure | looks like he's an ok programmer https://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&q="hex%40freezone.co.uk" | 12:55 |
| ParahSailin | redox might be best way to control an enzyme | 13:01 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: i sent you a rails job email | 13:02 |
| delinquentme | oh hot! | 13:02 |
| Mokbortolan_ | http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2012-02/new-disposable-dna-sequencer-runs-molecular-analysis-powered-usb | 13:02 |
| kanzure | Mokbortolan_: not released yet ;) | 13:03 |
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| archels | <span class="hideMe"> | 13:43 |
| archels | <strong>Guardian Angels</strong> | 13:43 |
| archels | <em>for a smarter life</em> | 13:43 |
| archels | What is this doing behind the logo of the Human Brain Project (www.humanbrainproject.eu)? | 13:44 |
| kanzure | *shrug* lots of insecure servers out there | 13:46 |
| kanzure | page.onLoadFinished = handle_checkout_page_reloading; | 13:46 |
| kanzure | erm.. ignore that | 13:46 |
| kanzure | uhm.. cathal just posted an email: " - To further explore the DIY aspect of eating in the future, the | 13:47 |
| kanzure | butcher Ed Hick will give a live demonstration on how to skin and | 13:47 |
| kanzure | prepare a whole rabbit. www.hicks.ie" | 13:47 |
| roksprok | does that mean all cooking is diybio? | 13:55 |
| roksprok | i guess home brewing is pretty similar anyway | 13:55 |
| Mokbortolan_ | if by "diybio" you mean "struggling to survive", then yes! | 13:56 |
| Mokbortolan_ | Now who's up for a game of Centrifugal Bumblepuppy?!?! | 14:01 |
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| archels | Guardian Angels, a project to develop nanoscale sensors and interfaces for detecting and responding to environmental danger. | 14:10 |
| kanzure | is that a lifeboat foundation thing | 14:14 |
| kanzure | archels: how's your protein engineering / rational desig | 14:14 |
| kanzure | design | 14:14 |
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| archels | kanzure: practially zero, I'm trying to engineer neural networks instead. | 14:21 |
| ParahSailin | whats your protein engineering thing | 14:31 |
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| kanzure | hrmm short-patch compartmentalized self-replication | 14:41 |
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| foucist | anyone here into evolutionary computation ? | 16:03 |
| kanzure | i've dabbled a bit with GAs and evolutionary search | 16:04 |
| foucist | cool | 16:07 |
| foucist | kanzure: btw, you know of a rails job? | 16:07 |
| kanzure | yeah a few.. | 16:07 |
| kanzure | need something? | 16:08 |
| kanzure | *need one? | 16:08 |
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| kanzure | http://news.diybio.org/ | 17:01 |
| kanzure | welp there goes http://bit.ly/diybionews2 | 17:01 |
| n_bentha | hey kanzure | 17:02 |
| n_bentha | is that group about sequencing dna using enzymes instead of chemical anaylsis? | 17:03 |
| kanzure | it's not sequencing. synthesis. | 17:04 |
| kanzure | and yes.. using an enzyme | 17:04 |
| n_bentha | oh. ribosomes have u beat | 17:05 |
| kanzure | no ribosomes do their own thing | 17:06 |
| n_bentha | oh dna synthesis | 17:06 |
| n_bentha | i know ribosomes are different, sorry | 17:06 |
| n_bentha | dna pol 3, right? | 17:06 |
| kanzure | ribosomes aren't under direct human control | 17:06 |
| kanzure | polymerase isn't either | 17:06 |
| kanzure | there is no particular polymerase picked out yet | 17:06 |
| kanzure | but there are many candidates (about 3000) | 17:06 |
| n_bentha | so u want to be able to synthesize dna de-novo? | 17:07 |
| kanzure | i want to control dna polymerase's activity with either light, electricity or mechanical mechanisms | 17:07 |
| n_bentha | instead of making oligio's? | 17:07 |
| kanzure | *optical | 17:07 |
| n_bentha | ah cool | 17:07 |
| kanzure | *electrial | 17:08 |
| kanzure | *electrical | 17:08 |
| n_bentha | so flash one wave length and have it add some A's, and another wavelength and have it at some T's? | 17:08 |
| kanzure | it doesn't have to be light, but yes. | 17:08 |
| n_bentha | ah that would be cool. but wouldn't rearrangement of existing sequences combined w/ oligios work better? | 17:09 |
| kanzure | what? | 17:09 |
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| kanzure | are you a biologist? | 17:09 |
| n_bentha | yes | 17:09 |
| kanzure | ok so you're talking about ligating things together? | 17:09 |
| n_bentha | of course | 17:09 |
| kanzure | ok yes i agree ligation is a useful mechanism | 17:10 |
| kanzure | we've developed a ligation scheme that we want to test (in this channel) | 17:10 |
| kanzure | but it's unrelated to the enzymatic synthesis roadmap | 17:10 |
| n_bentha | oooh cool | 17:10 |
| n_bentha | i guess i just don't stand the purpose of the enzymatic synth | 17:10 |
| kanzure | dna polymerase is many thousands of times more efficient than chemical oligo synthesis | 17:11 |
| n_bentha | true | 17:11 |
| kanzure | and in the time that it takes you to access your oligo library for ligation, it will have already synthesized whatever it was from your library that you were trying to fetch ;) | 17:11 |
| n_bentha | ah ok i see what you're saying. | 17:12 |
| n_bentha | it seems like a space-pen situation to me (so much effort to make a pen that writes in space when the russians just used pencils), but i'm a conscientious objector so don't let me discourage the endeavor | 17:13 |
| kanzure | this enzyme already exists | 17:14 |
| kanzure | it's just doing its own thing. | 17:14 |
| n_bentha | oh u want to modify it | 17:14 |
| n_bentha | cool | 17:14 |
| kanzure | are you sure you're a biologist :x | 17:14 |
| kanzure | i mean, polymerase definitely exists | 17:15 |
| n_bentha | yes | 17:15 |
| n_bentha | but haven't many complex sequences arisen from errors in replication? | 17:17 |
| n_bentha | resulting in rearrangements of sequences | 17:18 |
| kanzure | some polymerases have better fidelity and error correction than others. for instance, some have a 1-in-10,000 error rate. | 17:19 |
| n_bentha | of course | 17:21 |
| n_bentha | i wasn't necessarily talking about those kinds of errors, but was just saying that new sequences have come about through errors | 17:22 |
| n_bentha | so it's unlikely that there's an enzyme that'll be able to link specific amino acids together | 17:23 |
| kanzure | we're not linking amino acids | 17:23 |
| n_bentha | nucleotides* | 17:24 |
| kanzure | well, what about CCA-adding enzyme.. seems like that exists to me.. | 17:24 |
| n_bentha | maybe... | 17:29 |
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| delinquentme | lawl | 18:31 |
| delinquentme | thank god for headphones | 18:31 |
| delinquentme | music. it makes you soar | 18:31 |
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| delinquentme | and it also makes you want to rip faces | 18:31 |
| delinquentme | thank god im not ripping faces w this terribul coffee shop muzak | 18:32 |
| mag1stra1e | delinquentme: How did the interviews go? | 18:39 |
| delinquentme | mag1stra1e, not bad! but I want everything to happen faster | 18:39 |
| delinquentme | got 2 more tomorrow | 18:40 |
| delinquentme | maybe 3 so well see | 18:40 |
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| mag1stra1e | thats great man! | 18:41 |
| mag1stra1e | How was the one job you really wanted to do? | 18:42 |
| mag1stra1e | Did they give you a pay scale for it yet? | 18:42 |
| kanzure | yashgaroth: so i was reading something today about chimeric polymerases | 18:46 |
| yashgaroth | like those modified high-fidelity/temp ones? | 18:47 |
| kanzure | nope | 18:47 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/polymerase/A%20specific%20loop%20in%20human%20DNA%20polymerase%20mu%20allows%20switching%20between%20creative%20and%20DNA-instructed%20synthesis.pdf | 18:48 |
| delinquentme | mag1stra1e, nahh man! no payscales yet | 18:50 |
| yashgaroth | it seems like if you can decouple the processivity of the pol from the phosphate being released, you could add one at a time, if you then allow it to proceed with an external signal | 18:51 |
| kanzure | the polymerase motor is sorta well studied, but yeah that's still an unknown | 18:51 |
| yashgaroth | but like with all of this, you'll need to be significantly more reliable than chemical synthesis | 18:51 |
| kanzure | i'm more worried about switching nucleotide selectivity | 18:51 |
| mag1stra1e | delinquentme: have you interviewed with that company yet? | 18:52 |
| yashgaroth | are we still focused on washing in the nucleotide for each step, or using transfer-RNA-like adaptors that can be activated at will | 18:52 |
| kanzure | i don't think i've seen any engineered protein with 4+ chromophores or other light/mechanical/electrical inducable confomational change | 18:52 |
| kanzure | washing is not ok in my opinion | 18:52 |
| kanzure | washing significantly defeats the purpose | 18:52 |
| yashgaroth | okay good cuz that'll be unreliable | 18:53 |
| delinquentme | mag1stra1e, yeahh the LBL one phone interview .. the dude said he was impressed but whoknows | 18:53 |
| delinquentme | payrate could go either way as they're closely coupled bc being a *HUGE* lab << lots of gov funding | 18:53 |
| delinquentme | but they're also .. gov funded | 18:53 |
| yashgaroth | but yeah if you're trying to get one molecule with four light-selectable motifs to add each base, and only doing one at a time, you might as well just design one from scratch | 18:54 |
| mag1stra1e | delinquentme: I really hope it works out for you! | 18:54 |
| kanzure | yashgaroth: i don't even know how that would look. | 18:54 |
| yashgaroth | the elongation is pretty energetically favorable, and all pol does is make sure it matches the template, which we're not doing anyway | 18:54 |
| mag1stra1e | it could be promising if he really likes you | 18:54 |
| mag1stra1e | Just got to keep your hopes up I guess lol | 18:54 |
| delinquentme | mag1stra1e, keep applying is what it is :D | 18:55 |
| yashgaroth | oh man I have no idea how it'd look either, but we're modifying pol so heavily that it'll be a totally new structure anyway | 18:55 |
| kanzure | well no i mean.. if you have 4 nucleotide binding pockets, where do they go | 18:55 |
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| yashgaroth | oh, I was hoping one carrier protein for each nucleotide | 18:56 |
| kanzure | i'd rather only interface with 1 giant enzyme | 18:56 |
| mag1stra1e | :) | 18:56 |
| yashgaroth | complexes, man, nature loves a good complex | 18:56 |
| kanzure | what are you going to do, wait for your laser to transfer enough energy to all the nucleotide-protein complexes? | 18:57 |
| yashgaroth | where did laser come in | 18:57 |
| kanzure | huh? | 18:57 |
| kanzure | what mechanism are you talking about? | 18:57 |
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| yashgaroth | a laser works, but I was thinking more diffuse light, unless you're doing a thousand different reactions in a small area, which I guess you plan to | 18:58 |
| kanzure | there's a lot of ADP/GTP/CTP-binding enzymes that have pretty good selectivity | 19:00 |
| kanzure | we could just steal binding pockets from them | 19:00 |
| delinquentme | 2012-02-23T03:01:31+00:00 heroku[web.1]: State changed from starting to crashed | 19:02 |
| kanzure | congratulations you probably have a syntax error | 19:02 |
| kanzure | did you run it locally first | 19:02 |
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| delinquentme | kanzure, thats.. | 19:03 |
| delinquentme | not a bad idea | 19:03 |
| delinquentme | 2012-02-23T03:01:26+00:00 app[web.1]: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/jruby/Main | 19:05 |
| delinquentme | dis | 19:05 |
| delinquentme | ok so I've verified that it downloaded that file correctly... | 19:08 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, is this if fi stuff shell scripts | 19:18 |
| delinquentme | ? | 19:18 |
| kanzure | where are you looking | 19:20 |
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| delinquentme | sometimes I feel like I pitch some heavy shit in my emails hahah | 20:28 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, the email attached to that position you forwarded is busted | 20:29 |
| kanzure | just email whoever sent it | 20:30 |
| delinquentme | jring@sharedhr.com is in the from field | 20:31 |
| kanzure | yeah just email that person | 20:33 |
| delinquentme | got it sorted | 20:36 |
| delinquentme | thanks for the heads up | 20:36 |
| delinquentme | NAO | 20:38 |
| delinquentme | we interface w the heorku | 20:38 |
| delinquentme | NO! | 20:38 |
| delinquentme | t3h sinatra | 20:38 |
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| sylph_mako | So, how about that google HUD thing. | 22:07 |
| sylph_mako | Personally I'm underwhelmed but I still desperately need an optical uplink and I'll take what I can get. | 22:08 |
| zacharycohn_ | sylph_mako: it's an early look at the v1. | 22:10 |
| zacharycohn_ | I'm pretty excited, I will probably get one | 22:10 |
| sylph_mako | It is very exciting. To see something like that finally being pushed mainstream. | 22:10 |
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| Stee| | sylph_mako, link? | 22:24 |
| sylph_mako | Stee|, http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/21/google-to-sell-terminator-style-glasses-by-years-end/ | 22:26 |
| Stee| | good | 22:38 |
| Stee| | that'll help development efforts | 22:39 |
| kanzure | help what? | 22:39 |
| Stee| | we're working with some sixthsense stuff on my site | 22:40 |
| Stee| | this makes a nice neat package for that | 22:40 |
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| sylph_mako | Could I get a link to that stuff Stee|? | 23:07 |
| * kanzure sleeps | 23:11 | |
| Stee| | sylph, the convo? | 23:13 |
| Stee| | we're just getting started now | 23:13 |
| * Mokbortolan_1 designs a brain input system. | 23:15 | |
| Stee| | Mokbortolan_1, go post it! | 23:15 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | post what? | 23:15 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | I'll post the kickstarter link when it's ready :p | 23:15 |
| Stee| | your dev efforts | 23:16 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | oh | 23:16 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | well, it'll be proprietary | 23:16 |
| Stee| | bah, fair | 23:16 |
| Stee| | talked to rdb? | 23:16 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | at least, the hardware stuff | 23:16 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | there'll be an open source SDK | 23:16 |
| Stee| | how much cash are you going to need? | 23:16 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | I have no idea | 23:17 |
| Stee| | any idea when you're going live with this? | 23:17 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | could be $20,000, could be $2,000,000 | 23:17 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | it'll take 1-2 years minimum | 23:17 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | the goal is to give my friend some new eyes | 23:17 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | he's going blind | 23:17 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | and he's too cool to let him wander around with a cane | 23:18 |
| sylph_mako | Stee|, the sixthsense stuff? I thought sixthsense was the lanyard projector thing, not really designed for a HUD. | 23:21 |
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| sylph_mako | Erm. The chest projector. | 23:25 |
| Stee| | sylph: just imagine instead of it projecting out on something, it instead simply puts that video output onto the hud | 23:25 |
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