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| delinquentme | played 2 games of SC2 | 07:19 |
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| delinquentme | RL hacking is so much cooler | 07:20 |
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| kanzure | http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/06/health/amateur-biologists-are-new-fear-in-making-a-mutant-flu-virus.html?_r=1 | 09:07 |
| kanzure | "some scientists also fear that publication may allow curious amateurs to recreate the mutated virus — raising the risk of an accidental release." | 09:08 |
| kanzure | who cares if it's amateurs or not though | 09:08 |
| kanzure | `“There ought to be oversight down the road,” Mr. Bobe said. ` | 09:09 |
| kanzure | what a traitor | 09:09 |
| kanzure | if he's going to go around saying he represents the diybio community, he shouldn't betray everyone like that | 09:09 |
| kanzure | that's not okay | 09:09 |
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| strangewarp | but terrism | 09:49 |
| strangewarp | O_O | 09:49 |
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| delinquentme | lawl | 12:47 |
| delinquentme | lawl | 12:47 |
| delinquentme | nomz nomz | 12:47 |
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| kanzure | archels: you're in the netherlands? | 12:49 |
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| strangewarp | Cool, just bought some aniracetam and choline capsules, enough for 3 months at a light dosage. | 13:49 |
| strangewarp | Nootropics make me so productive, it's just astounding.. but I don't want to have to keep buying these citicoline energy drinks, so I just bit the bullet and bought some pills :p | 13:50 |
| kanzure | i am in heaven | 14:06 |
| kanzure | cat blah.txt | xclip -sel clip | 14:06 |
| kanzure | no more pesky selecting | 14:06 |
| kanzure | strangewarp: so far, none of the nootropics seem to be strong enough to make even 0.1% of its users to the level necessary to realize how exactly to manufacture it to their advantage (i.e. for less than what they pay per month) | 14:08 |
| kanzure | i would think that, in the scheme of things, the amount of room between "normal human" and "human able to synthesize this nootropic on his own" is dramatically small in comparison to what we imagine being the maximum impact of a nootropic | 14:09 |
| kanzure | *to what we imagine /the really good shit we don't have yet/ doing | 14:10 |
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| kanzure | hi indigenous | 14:11 |
| indigenous | Hello | 14:11 |
| indigenous | Any news for me? | 14:12 |
| kanzure | what would you be interested in? | 14:12 |
| indigenous | Anything that is interesting :) | 14:13 |
| indigenous | Was reading about respirocytes | 14:13 |
| kanzure | strangewarp: actually, i guess i can imagine a nootropic that only has the effect of helping the user understand and create more of /just that/ noot.. heh | 14:13 |
| strangewarp | Indeed, nootropics are good but not amazing - I'll probably invest in a DIY transcranial electronic stimulation rig once I have a bit of money. I'm already familiar with electronics and microcontrollers so that part is no problem (though I don't have the mathematics to build my own circuits; I've only done other people's designs) | 14:19 |
| delinquentme | indigenous, respirocytes remind me of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_substitute | 14:20 |
| strangewarp | Speaking of, time to solder a bunch of parts into a PCB for a musical synthesizer :3 | 14:20 |
| delinquentme | you know theres a light blue liquid which can be transfused @ 2 units a minute for massive blood loss :D | 14:21 |
| delinquentme | they use it in like mexico and other places | 14:21 |
| delinquentme | strangewarp: so far, none of the nootropics seem to be strong enough to make even 0.1% of its users to the level necessary to realize how exactly to manufacture it to their advantage (i.e. for less than what they pay per month) << what are you after here? | 14:23 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, ^^ | 14:23 |
| strangewarp | you scared me for a minute there :p | 14:23 |
| indigenous | delinquentme: Thanks for that. | 14:24 |
| indigenous | delinquentme: the Pentagon of United States. . .artificial blood. . . wounded soldiers. . produced for Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency | 14:25 |
| delinquentme | indigenous, its crazy to think that some of this shit is *IN USE* | 14:26 |
| indigenous | It is at times | 14:29 |
| indigenous | Sort of related. Currectly reading http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20090129 | 14:30 |
| indigenous | Open access | 14:30 |
| kanzure | strangewarp: they don't cost that much.. $100 or something | 14:34 |
| kanzure | less than groceries | 14:34 |
| kanzure | i mean, in parts | 14:35 |
| jrayhawk | I wonder if meth manages 0.1% | 15:04 |
| jrayhawk | clearly a question we'll have to put to quantifiedself | 15:06 |
| jrayhawk | coffee probably hits over fifty | 15:08 |
| kanzure | fifty what? | 15:08 |
| jrayhawk | percent | 15:08 |
| kanzure | what? 50% of caffeine users definitely do not make their own caffeine production pipeline | 15:09 |
| kanzure | they usually buy it in bulk | 15:09 |
| jrayhawk | oh, you didn't define "manufacture" very well | 15:09 |
| kanzure | also: i've never really checked but i dunno if meth labs are run by people on meth | 15:09 |
| jrayhawk | I don't think anybody but other tweakers would really be willing to interact with tweakers. | 15:10 |
| jrayhawk | Tweakers are scary motherfuckers. | 15:10 |
| kanzure | wait a second | 15:14 |
| kanzure | so in the movie limitless, the character is portrayed as having enhanced brain function | 15:14 |
| kanzure | but even then he still goes and hires some undergrad to figure out the formula/synthesis | 15:14 |
| jrayhawk | the message is clear: you have to be an idiot to do undergrad work | 15:15 |
| kanzure | "synthetiqs" would be a cool name for a nootropics company | 15:15 |
| jrayhawk | "synthetique" | 15:16 |
| katsmeow-afk | speaking of drugs, has anyone found a new supplier of adrafinal? | 15:16 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: i hate myself for having thought of that | 15:17 |
| katsmeow-afk | and speaking of "drugs", the trial run today of 50g protien shake when waking up, followed later by one small sammich, i have not felt the need to eat all day | 15:17 |
| Mokbortolan_ | katsmeow-afk: seriously, just get some modafinil | 15:18 |
| kanzure | "Illicit industrial-scale methamphetamine and MDMA chemical factory (Cikande, Indonesia)" | 15:18 |
| kanzure | why is it illicit in indonesia? | 15:18 |
| katsmeow-afk | cost | 15:18 |
| Mokbortolan_ | adrafinil is not good for your liver | 15:18 |
| katsmeow-afk | besides, i wasn't taking full doses of it | 15:18 |
| Mokbortolan_ | kanzure: dude was busy | 15:19 |
| Mokbortolan_ | and that guy had the equipment | 15:19 |
| Mokbortolan_ | at some point, you just start tacking additional brains onto your own rather than enhancing yours to do everything | 15:19 |
| Mokbortolan_ | and I bet he eventually did when he had a few spare hours | 15:20 |
| * katsmeow-afk still would be happy with an olde 8087 tacked on | 15:20 | |
| kanzure | i wonder how difficult a microfluidic meth lab would be | 15:20 |
| * Mokbortolan_ postulates on the actions of a fictional character. | 15:20 | |
| jrayhawk | katsmeow-afk: You'll probably get better results with solid food; liquified food gets absorbed real fast and it's hard to avoid an insulin spike with it. | 15:20 |
| katsmeow-afk | jrayhawk, i did eat that ssmall sammich, and i plan on a small fish sammich before dark o'clock | 15:20 |
| jrayhawk | What are your goals, here? | 15:21 |
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| katsmeow-afk | here in channel, or here irl, or here with food, or etc? | 15:21 |
| jrayhawk | With the food. | 15:21 |
| katsmeow-afk | weight loss | 15:21 |
| jrayhawk | Ah. | 15:22 |
| katsmeow-afk | say,,, 100lbs | 15:22 |
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| katsmeow-afk | also, i have been chronically fatigued, no energy, too much sleepyness | 15:23 |
| katsmeow-afk | docs here say stuff along the lines of "take it easy, and i don't prescribe speed, never come here again", and all 3 suggestions are useless or immaterial | 15:23 |
| Steel | katsmeow-afk, tried various noots at all? | 15:25 |
| Steel | or changing up your xanthines? | 15:25 |
| katsmeow-afk | no, could get no feedback or advice on anything | 15:25 |
| katsmeow-afk | the adrafinal at least kept me awake | 15:25 |
| Steel | Mokbortolan_ and myself, possibly kanz as well have all done an amount of reading on noots | 15:26 |
| katsmeow-afk | lotta noots out there, documentations too, but i don't know anyone on anything | 15:26 |
| kanzure | you should do what ray and fenn do | 15:27 |
| kanzure | just take everything by the handful | 15:27 |
| kanzure | gobs and gobs of noots | 15:28 |
| katsmeow-afk | heh | 15:28 |
| Steel | katsmeow-afk, I don't have a lot of time now, but you can poke me later for papers if you want | 15:29 |
| Steel | /r/nootropics is also (somewhat) useful | 15:29 |
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| katsmeow-afk | "/r/nootropics " means what? | 15:30 |
| Mokbortolan_ | katsmeow-afk: where are you in the world? | 15:30 |
| katsmeow-afk | southeast usa | 15:30 |
| Mokbortolan_ | it's a reference to Reddit.com | 15:30 |
| katsmeow-afk | ah, been there, will go again | 15:31 |
| Mokbortolan_ | reddit is a massive forum, with thousands of sub forums | 15:31 |
| Vicarious | hi | 15:31 |
| katsmeow-afk | yeas | 15:31 |
| Mokbortolan_ | /r/nootropics is one such subforum | 15:31 |
| katsmeow-afk | i did not know the notation, thanks | 15:31 |
| Mokbortolan_ | so you just type reddit.com/r/nootropics | 15:31 |
| Mokbortolan_ | or you can do nootropics.reddit.com | 15:31 |
| katsmeow-afk | seems it must be http://www.reddit... , http://reddit... fails, just fyi | 15:32 |
| katsmeow-afk | drat, gotta afk a few, thanks again, Mokbortolan_, will look it over | 15:33 |
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| jrayhawk | fenn: http://jackkruse.com/cold-thermogenesis-6-the-ancient-pathway/ somewhat more detail if you happen to have any patience left | 19:25 |
| foucist | cold showers FTW | 19:26 |
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| kanzure | "Oddly enough, cheese is one of them. So stick your knife in a nice big piece of cheddar and you might make it through just fine." | 20:59 |
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| * katsmeow-afk cringes at his use of the written language | 21:13 | |
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| katsmeow-afk | Kruse keeps saying "cold" , but hasn't quantified it, what temperature is he talking about? | 21:41 |
| jrayhawk | http://jackkruse.com/the-evolution-of-the-leptin-rx/ has some methodology | 21:50 |
| jrayhawk | as with everything else, it's surrounded by annoying intuition/thought process cruft | 21:51 |
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| katsmeow-afk | If you get lightheaded (and faint and drown) this means your not ready for the tub. | 21:57 |
| katsmeow-afk | as also opposed to you're not ready | 21:57 |
| * katsmeow-afk is going to lose weight just from constant cringing while reading the written errors | 21:58 | |
| kanzure | amputation is a good way to lose weight | 21:59 |
| kanzure | have you considered amputating your body off of your head | 21:59 |
| yashgaroth | legs are p. much obsolete these days | 21:59 |
| katsmeow-afk | and cold causing cell death can lead to amputaion, so i guess his plan works! | 21:59 |
| kanzure | i wonder if i should add a medical advisory to this channel's /topic | 22:01 |
| katsmeow-afk | what is his aversion to metals? he puts 32F ice on his skin to lower it to 55F, while apparently saying a 55F cold plate is dangerous | 22:01 |
| yashgaroth | to be fair to his lunacy, metal does have a much higher thermal conductivity than ice | 22:02 |
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| katsmeow-afk | yeas, but the 55F metal will not drop below 55F, while the 32F ice will | 22:03 |
| yashgaroth | sure, but [some bullshit about hormones] | 22:06 |
| katsmeow-afk | oh | 22:06 |
| yashgaroth | reads like a dr. bronner's soap bottle | 22:06 |
| yashgaroth | except with science instead of judaism | 22:06 |
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| yashgaroth | hahaha "SKEPTICS: You wanted data, and now I am killing you with it." | 22:07 |
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| kanzure | http://www.starwars.com/news/ralph_mcquarrie_remembered.html | 22:23 |
| kanzure | win 6 | 22:23 |
| kanzure | fjasdklfjadjfa | 22:23 |
| kanzure | why is irssi breaking on me :( | 22:23 |
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| Steel | hey kanz, found somebody out there interested in this shit who's actually doing useful shit unlike me | 22:46 |
| kanzure | is that a question? | 22:46 |
| Steel | no, a statement | 22:46 |
| kanzure | oh | 22:46 |
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| Steel | Mokbortolan_, you around? | 22:52 |
| kanzure | Steel: were you going to say anything else | 22:52 |
| kanzure | or just leave me hanging | 22:52 |
| Steel | kanzure, a guy who does ubiquitous computing, distributing/networked computing, and automated facial tracking and recognition | 22:53 |
| Steel | also a transhumanist, if not really involved in any group | 22:53 |
| kanzure | ok...? | 22:54 |
| Steel | let me be happy I find useful people :P | 22:54 |
| Steel | and can update them on what other people are working on they might find interesting | 22:54 |
| kanzure | NO YOU MUST NOT BE THERE ARE RULES ABOUT THESE THINGS | 22:54 |
| kanzure | alright whatever | 22:54 |
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| foucist | Steel: the kanz is just jealous of your guy | 23:01 |
| Steel | nah | 23:02 |
| Steel | kanz is tired of me being all talk | 23:02 |
| Steel | and no do :P | 23:02 |
| Steel | My thesis is due by middle of april, kanzure, you can read it if you want when I'm done :P | 23:02 |
| kanzure | Steel: http://phdchallenge.org/ | 23:13 |
| kanzure | 2010 was "i smoke crack rocks" http://phdchallenge.org/call-for-participation-2010 | 23:13 |
| Steel | hah, no. I want to leave as soon as possible. | 23:15 |
| kanzure | i think the winner was sort of cheating | 23:17 |
| kanzure | http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~gparent/papers/amt-transcript.pdf | 23:17 |
| kanzure | not exactly subtle to directly quote it | 23:17 |
| Steel | kanz, feedback? http://transhumani.com/topic67.html | 23:31 |
| Steel | (in here, obv) | 23:32 |
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| kanzure | Steel: yeah my first thought is.. use some hall effect sensors | 23:36 |
| kanzure | or some other magnetometer | 23:36 |
| Steel | ah, to check against? | 23:51 |
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