| --- Log opened Wed May 09 00:00:05 2012 | ||
| kanzure | 'night | 00:07 |
|---|---|---|
| -!- Mokbortolan_1 [~Nate@c-76-115-136-13.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 00:15 | |
| Utopiah | yep, yet I admit I remain curious about economists view on technological singularity or even "just" radical improvments in AI | 00:15 |
| -!- joshcryer [~g@unaffiliated/joshcryer] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 00:18 | |
| -!- sylph_mako [~mako@118-93-18-64.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 00:48 | |
| -!- Mokbortolan_ [~Nate@c-76-115-136-13.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 00:57 | |
| -!- Juul [~Juul@208.87.217.74] has quit [Quit: Leaving] | 01:15 | |
| Utopiah | Cheap sequencing technology is flooding the world with genomic data. Can we handle the deluge? http://www.technologyreview.com/computing/40271/ (just sexy infographics) | 01:35 |
| -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@pppdyn-66.stud-ko.rz-online.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 01:39 | |
| -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@pppdyn-66.stud-ko.rz-online.net] has quit [Changing host] | 01:39 | |
| -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 01:39 | |
| -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 01:47 | |
| -!- _Sketch_ [~Sketch@71-91-221-175.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 01:47 | |
| -!- _Sketch_ [~Sketch@71-91-221-175.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 01:47 | |
| -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 01:48 | |
| -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 02:08 | |
| -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 02:09 | |
| -!- sylph_mako [~mako@118-93-18-64.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] | 02:12 | |
| -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 02:28 | |
| -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 02:28 | |
| -!- AdrianG [~amphetami@unaffiliated/amphetamine] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 03:58 | |
| -!- AdrianG [~amphetami@unaffiliated/amphetamine] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] | 04:03 | |
| -!- AdrianG [~amphetami@unaffiliated/amphetamine] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 04:04 | |
| -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 04:14 | |
| -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 04:15 | |
| -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 04:25 | |
| -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 04:26 | |
| -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 04:36 | |
| -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 04:37 | |
| -!- Mikoangelo [~Mikael@78.157.118.97] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 04:39 | |
| -!- gedanken1tuecke [~bastian@phylomemetic-tree.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 04:39 | |
| -!- fenn_ [~fenn@131.252.130.248] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 04:39 | |
| -!- jrayhawk_ [~jrayhawk@nursie.omgwallhack.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 04:39 | |
| -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 04:39 | |
| -!- docl_ [~luke@71-32-250-171.ptld.qwest.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 04:39 | |
| -!- Utopiah_ [~utopiah@rps7452.ovh.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 04:40 | |
| -!- AlonzoTG1 [~atg@dsl092-168-049.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 04:41 | |
| -!- Mikael [~Mikael@78.157.118.97] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] | 04:42 | |
| -!- fenn [~fenn@131.252.130.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] | 04:42 | |
| -!- gedankenstuecke [~bastian@62.75.138.64] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] | 04:42 | |
| -!- jrayhawk [~jrayhawk@nursie.omgwallhack.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] | 04:42 | |
| -!- docl [~luke@unaffiliated/docl] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] | 04:42 | |
| -!- AlonzoTG [~atg@dsl092-168-049.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] | 04:42 | |
| -!- Utopiah [~utopiah@unaffiliated/utopiah] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] | 04:42 | |
| -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 04:42 | |
| -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 04:42 | |
| -!- thesnark [~snark@unaffiliated/thesnark] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 04:44 | |
| -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 04:44 | |
| -!- gedanken1tuecke is now known as gedankenstuecke | 04:53 | |
| -!- Utopiah_ is now known as Utopiah | 04:55 | |
| -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 05:15 | |
| -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 05:16 | |
| -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 05:36 | |
| -!- joshcryer [~g@unaffiliated/joshcryer] has quit [Quit: bbl] | 05:44 | |
| -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 06:06 | |
| -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 06:07 | |
| -!- augur [~augur@206.196.184.146] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 06:17 | |
| -!- augur [~augur@206.196.184.146] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 06:21 | |
| -!- poptire [~quassel@64.31.59.70] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] | 06:42 | |
| -!- docl_ is now known as docl | 06:52 | |
| -!- docl [~luke@71-32-250-171.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Changing host] | 06:52 | |
| -!- docl [~luke@unaffiliated/docl] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 06:52 | |
| -!- Charlie [~quassel@64.31.59.70] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 06:58 | |
| -!- Charlie is now known as Guest56480 | 06:58 | |
| kanzure | beep boop | 06:59 |
| kanzure | hi thesnark | 06:59 |
| * ENKI-][ hunts thesnark | 07:10 | |
| -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@pppdyn-66.stud-ko.rz-online.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 07:20 | |
| -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@pppdyn-66.stud-ko.rz-online.net] has quit [Changing host] | 07:20 | |
| -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 07:20 | |
| -!- jmil [~jmil@c-68-81-252-40.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 07:25 | |
| -!- jmil [~jmil@c-68-81-252-40.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: jmil] | 07:32 | |
| -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] | 07:35 | |
| JayDugger | Good morning, everyone. | 07:45 |
| docl | good morning | 07:50 |
| -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@pppdyn-5f.stud-ko.rz-online.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 07:50 | |
| -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@pppdyn-5f.stud-ko.rz-online.net] has quit [Changing host] | 07:50 | |
| -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 07:50 | |
| -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@c-24-3-85-154.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 07:53 | |
| -!- archels [~foo@sascha.esrac.ele.tue.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] | 07:55 | |
| -!- nathaniel [~nathaniel@reddit/operator/nathaniel] has quit [Quit: Leaving] | 08:00 | |
| -!- archels [~foo@sascha.esrac.ele.tue.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 08:04 | |
| kanzure | 214M diybio/cur | 08:11 |
| kanzure | 146M diybio/new | 08:11 |
| kanzure | not bad i guess | 08:11 |
| AdrianG | ? | 08:12 |
| AdrianG | millions of what | 08:12 |
| kanzure | i have been backing up my gmail account for the last four days | 08:15 |
| kanzure | in addition, it's sorta well known that mbox mailboxes have that general structure (cur, new, temp) | 08:16 |
| -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 08:18 | |
| -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 08:19 | |
| -!- n_bentha [~lolicon@75.111.75.178] has left ##hplusroadmap [] | 08:20 | |
| delinquentme | kanzure, do you know if anyone is measuring impact in open data journals? | 08:39 |
| kanzure | plos has some internal metrics somewhere | 08:41 |
| -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] | 08:43 | |
| -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-48-200.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 08:48 | |
| -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-48-200.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 09:05 | |
| -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 09:07 | |
| thesnark | ENKI-][ =D | 09:15 |
| thesnark | hey kanzure | 09:15 |
| thesnark | careful enki, I'm a boojum | 09:20 |
| -!- srangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-200-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 09:22 | |
| -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] | 09:23 | |
| -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-200-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] | 09:25 | |
| -!- srangewarp is now known as strangewarp | 09:25 | |
| -!- jmil [~jmil@seas1066.wireless-pennnet.upenn.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 09:33 | |
| -!- jmil [~jmil@seas1066.wireless-pennnet.upenn.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 09:33 | |
| -!- jmil [~jmil@2607:f470:8:3148:f03c:ebe0:15b5:5961] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 09:33 | |
| kanzure | thesnark: looking at sfl stuff today? | 09:34 |
| -!- _Sketch_ [~Sketch@71-91-221-175.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 09:34 | |
| -!- _Sketch_ [~Sketch@71-91-221-175.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 09:34 | |
| -!- kvltist [~Kvltist@p5B33F632.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 09:36 | |
| kanzure | fenn_: beep? | 09:37 |
| ThomasEgi | beep wont do. take a trainhorn! | 09:38 |
| -!- kvltist [~Kvltist@p5B33F632.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Client Quit] | 09:38 | |
| kanzure | <!DOCTYPE html> <meta charset="UTF-8"> <title>TITLE</title> | 09:39 |
| kanzure | hooray html :/ | 09:40 |
| -!- thesnark is now known as thesnark|afk | 09:58 | |
| AdrianG | Just attackclone the grit repo pushmerge, then rubygem the lymphnode js shawarma module -- and presto! http://html9responsiveboilerstrapjs.com/ | 10:10 |
| kanzure | he loses points sine 'grit' isn't a usbale command in this context | 10:13 |
| kanzure | http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2012/05/09/one_more_on_that_buckyball_longevity_paper.php | 10:18 |
| -!- Proteus [~Proteus@unaffiliated/proteus] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 10:29 | |
| delinquentme | kanzure, whats the TLDR on his evaluation of the bucky ball studies? | 10:54 |
| kanzure | there is no "TLDR" go away | 10:58 |
| delinquentme | .... | 11:06 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, whats that about | 11:06 |
| delinquentme | vat iz de issue? | 11:06 |
| -!- augur [~augur@206.196.186.174] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 11:12 | |
| kanzure | delinquentme: "TLDR" for a summary of a summary of a paper? please, no. just read it. | 11:25 |
| -!- _Sketch_ [~Sketch@71-91-221-175.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 11:25 | |
| -!- _Sketch_ [~Sketch@71-91-221-175.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 11:26 | |
| -!- n_bentha [~lolicon@75.111.75.178] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 11:39 | |
| -!- chandoo [~chandoo@ool-ad032250.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 11:54 | |
| -!- sylph_mako [~mako@118-93-18-64.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 13:15 | |
| -!- snark_ [~snark@cblmdm24-53-167-49.buckeyecom.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 13:30 | |
| -!- nmz787 [~Nathan@cpe-67-242-177-23.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 13:32 | |
| nmz787 | howdy doo | 13:32 |
| -!- n_bentha [~lolicon@75.111.75.178] has left ##hplusroadmap [] | 13:33 | |
| -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-52-155-56.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 13:34 | |
| -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: thesnark|afk, delinquentme | 13:34 | |
| -!- Netsplit over, joins: delinquentme | 13:35 | |
| kanzure | nmz787: hey. are you back? | 13:35 |
| -!- Utopiah_ [~utopiah@rps7452.ovh.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 13:42 | |
| nmz787 | lol | 13:46 |
| nmz787 | yeah | 13:46 |
| nmz787 | got back 2am tues morn | 13:46 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, “Pokemon was a 24+ billion dollar franchise. As far as anyone can tell, Nintendo has very little interest in building games outside its own platform. We are making Pokemon for the iPhone.” | 13:46 |
| delinquentme | http://www.jasonshen.com/2012/eleven-compelling-startup-pitch-archetypes-with-examples-from-yc-companies/ | 13:46 |
| -!- ParahSailin [~parah@unaffiliated/parahsailin] has quit [Excess Flood] | 13:47 | |
| -!- Utopiah [~utopiah@rps7452.ovh.net] has quit [Write error: Broken pipe] | 13:47 | |
| -!- ParahSailin [~parah@unaffiliated/parahsailin] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 13:47 | |
| delinquentme | but I happen to like #6 better | 13:47 |
| delinquentme | Archetype | 13:47 |
| delinquentme | 6 | 13:48 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: any word from fenn re: his design for the gantry | 13:48 |
| -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 13:48 | |
| nmz787 | kanzure: i know most of the parts,except the metal sheets, are on the google spreadsheet | 13:48 |
| kanzure | actually no.. i haven't heard from him | 13:53 |
| kanzure | nmz787: was the convo w/ rob productive? | 13:53 |
| nmz787 | meh | 13:53 |
| kanzure | sorry for building your hopes up about him :p | 13:53 |
| nmz787 | he said he could make a dna printer in 3-6 months easily, after i mentioned our interest | 13:53 |
| kanzure | i'm sure he could.. but he hasn't | 13:53 |
| nmz787 | i don't think we're making a 'DNA printer' either, that sounds like a bullshit hipster term to me | 13:53 |
| kanzure | it's a "MICROBE PRINTER" !!!111one | 13:53 |
| kanzure | gotta turn up the hipster... let's see.. "Desktop baby printer" | 13:53 |
| -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-52-155-56.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 13:54 | |
| delinquentme | rob carlson? | 13:54 |
| delinquentme | didnt you say you hated him? | 13:54 |
| kanzure | rob has a tendency to be helpful if you ask very very specific questions | 13:57 |
| kanzure | and/or if he is motivated at the moment to answer your question | 13:57 |
| -!- HEx1 [~HEx@212.159.112.196] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] | 14:00 | |
| snark_ | knazure yeah | 14:00 |
| snark_ | in about 5 hrs | 14:00 |
| snark_ | if you can wait that long ;) | 14:00 |
| -!- HEx1 [~HEx@212.159.112.196] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 14:01 | |
| -!- chillyvanilly [~chillyvan@207.178.197.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] | 14:03 | |
| -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-200-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] | 14:07 | |
| -!- chillyvanilly_ [~chillyvan@207.178.197.130] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 14:08 | |
| -!- chillyvanilly_ [~chillyvan@207.178.197.130] has left ##hplusroadmap [] | 14:11 | |
| -!- sylph_mako [~mako@118-93-18-64.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] | 14:14 | |
| kanzure | neat gpgpu article on nurbs intersections: | 14:14 |
| kanzure | http://www.me.berkeley.edu/~mcmains/pubs/SPM08gpuSSI.pdf | 14:15 |
| -!- archels [~foo@sascha.esrac.ele.tue.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] | 14:16 | |
| -!- yashgaroth [~f@cpe-66-27-117-179.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 14:23 | |
| -!- srangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-200-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 14:25 | |
| -!- srangewarp is now known as strangewarp | 14:25 | |
| -!- snark_ [~snark@cblmdm24-53-167-49.buckeyecom.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] | 14:27 | |
| kanzure | eh? so their method is AABBs on portions of the intersecting surfaces? | 14:27 |
| kanzure | "At the same time, we also get the ranges in the parametric domain corresponding to the intersecting surface patches." | 14:27 |
| kanzure | section 6.1 is bizarre. instead of doing actual matrix math to determine the intersection curve between two surfaces, they are using triangles to approximate the intersection? | 14:28 |
| kanzure | "Finally, to compute the actual intersection curves themselves from the list of points, we make use of a greedy algorithm (Algorithm 3) that computes the intersection curves by successively merging polylines that are close to each other. We working a 7-dimensional space R7, integrating the data from both the model space as well as the two parametric spaces." | 14:28 |
| -!- archels` [~foo@sascha.esrac.ele.tue.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 14:28 | |
| -!- snark_ [~snark@cblmdm24-53-167-49.buckeyecom.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 14:28 | |
| -!- upgrayeddd [u2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kfbyyazjyjpyichf] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] | 14:28 | |
| -!- upgrayeddd [u2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vxhgoowxxcyanfby] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 14:28 | |
| -!- nmz787 [~Nathan@cpe-67-242-177-23.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] | 14:31 | |
| -!- augur [~augur@206.196.186.174] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 14:43 | |
| -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-52-155-56.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 14:47 | |
| Thorbinator1 | http://www.reddit.com/r/Cyberpunk/comments/tf5wi/ama_about_my_magnetic_finger_implants/ | 14:58 |
| Thorbinator1 | a guy gets magnets implanted in his ring finger tips | 14:59 |
| Thorbinator1 | can feel them move around | 14:59 |
| -!- jmil [~jmil@2607:f470:8:3148:f03c:ebe0:15b5:5961] has quit [Quit: jmil] | 15:05 | |
| ThomasEgi | Thorbinator1, magnetic implants are pretty popular amongst grinders | 15:21 |
| ThomasEgi | quite a number of people have them. | 15:21 |
| delinquentme | ThomasEgi, grinders/ | 15:24 |
| delinquentme | like people who work with grinding wheels? | 15:24 |
| ThomasEgi | hehe. nope | 15:24 |
| ENKI-][ | snark_: boojum? we aren't on the potato anymore | 15:24 |
| ThomasEgi | the kind of biohackers that slice themself up to stuff extras in their bodies | 15:24 |
| ThomasEgi | magnetic implants, electronics, etc | 15:24 |
| delinquentme | lol ohhhh | 15:26 |
| ENKI-][ | grinders don't seem to get much love here | 15:26 |
| delinquentme | cool term | 15:26 |
| delinquentme | ENKI-][, in this channel? | 15:26 |
| ENKI-][ | yes | 15:26 |
| delinquentme | like i wouldn't do it myself but | 15:26 |
| ENKI-][ | a lot of people are very vocally against lepht here | 15:26 |
| delinquentme | I guess so long as you know what you're getting yourself into .. and you've got a backup plan .. go for it! | 15:26 |
| ENKI-][ | *nod* | 15:27 |
| delinquentme | what is lepht | 15:27 |
| ENKI-][ | who is lepht | 15:27 |
| delinquentme | Lepht Anonym is a faceless, genderless British wetware hacker. it lacks both gods and money, and likes people, science and practical transhumanism. | 15:27 |
| delinquentme | ? | 15:27 |
| ENKI-][ | exactly | 15:27 |
| delinquentme | was he in here and people talked shit or something? | 15:27 |
| kanzure | grinders get exactly zero love in here, on purpose | 15:27 |
| -!- jmil [~jmil@173-161-142-133-Philadelphia.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 15:27 | |
| ENKI-][ | though i thought she was scottish. well, whatever. | 15:27 |
| kanzure | lepht is not genderless.. what a load of crap | 15:28 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, it smells like marketing | 15:28 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: it is | 15:28 |
| ENKI-][ | lepht has all my love, but returns none of it. she returned my email once, though! | 15:28 |
| delinquentme | thats obviously terrible | 15:28 |
| kanzure | "grinding" is just another name for readers of body modification magazine, or something | 15:28 |
| AdrianG | grinding is stupid | 15:28 |
| delinquentme | soo what about if we've got people who use modified contacts? | 15:29 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: what about it? | 15:29 |
| AdrianG | contacts? | 15:29 |
| delinquentme | so thats ok | 15:29 |
| kanzure | what? | 15:29 |
| delinquentme | modified contacts | 15:29 |
| kanzure | what about them? | 15:29 |
| delinquentme | say with video implants or something | 15:29 |
| delinquentme | to discuss here | 15:29 |
| kanzure | oh, to discuss | 15:29 |
| delinquentme | juxtaposed against inserting things into ones self | 15:30 |
| kanzure | i generally recommend against using lepth as a role model for anything, that's all | 15:30 |
| delinquentme | one is good one is not? | 15:30 |
| ENKI-][ | i don't think gargoyles count as grinders, though i don't think there's much love for wearables here. | 15:30 |
| kanzure | *lepht | 15:30 |
| kanzure | ENKI-][: there's a few wearable projects in here | 15:30 |
| AdrianG | there are contacts that project images | 15:30 |
| AdrianG | ? | 15:30 |
| ENKI-][ | grinders quite specifically cut themselves up, or have themselves cut up. | 15:30 |
| AdrianG | like, you can buy them? | 15:30 |
| ENKI-][ | AdrianG: there are four-pixel ones that they put in rabbits two years ago. | 15:31 |
| delinquentme | there are prototypes | 15:31 |
| AdrianG | thats not even a screen | 15:31 |
| AdrianG | i meant, somethign i can BUY | 15:31 |
| ENKI-][ | heh | 15:31 |
| AdrianG | that would be the first thing i'd get | 15:31 |
| kanzure | ENKI-][: telling people not to use anaesthesia, talking about how psychotic you are because you cut down to your bone regularly, etc., is just not a good 'face of biohacking' to have around | 15:31 |
| ENKI-][ | you can't even BUY a wearable | 15:31 |
| delinquentme | totally cooler than google googles | 15:32 |
| kanzure | ENKI-][: you can definitely buy components to a wearable, what are you talking about.. | 15:32 |
| AdrianG | ENKI-][: ofc u can | 15:32 |
| ENKI-][ | kanzure: she tells people to use anaesthesia. she just says that *she* didn't. | 15:32 |
| AdrianG | i can order custom, computer lathe cut lenses | 15:32 |
| kanzure | ENKI-][: not really.. "lead by example" and such | 15:32 |
| AdrianG | any material, any design | 15:32 |
| kanzure | "post videos of me screaming to youtube" | 15:32 |
| kanzure | "mix biohacking/transhumanism/with personal psychotic issues" hooray | 15:32 |
| -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] | 15:32 | |
| kanzure | no thanks. none of that in here.. | 15:32 |
| delinquentme | is there a better inbound link tool than alexa? | 15:32 |
| AdrianG | you just need to add an extra step of slapping some lcd scrap inside it | 15:32 |
| ENKI-][ | kanzure: you can buy the components for a wearable, but you can also buy the components to construct a contact lens display (if you are extremely wealthy). | 15:32 |
| ThomasEgi | kanzure, well the cutting up part is only a neccessary step for implantation. | 15:32 |
| ThomasEgi | and there have been a couple of rather interesting ideas | 15:33 |
| ENKI-][ | meh | 15:33 |
| ThomasEgi | like geigercounter implants (after fukushima) | 15:33 |
| kanzure | ThomasEgi: if you are going to implant something, you should probably implant things that are wirelessly rechargable, rather than batteries (as lepht did) | 15:33 |
| ThomasEgi | kanzure, true. | 15:33 |
| kanzure | ok. so again, i think that particular surgery was pointless and is a bad example. | 15:33 |
| ThomasEgi | i already have a tiny lithium battery + charging logic + induction coils around | 15:33 |
| AdrianG | lenses have to be wireless | 15:33 |
| kanzure | ThomasEgi: that's because you might possibly understand wireless transduction ;) | 15:33 |
| AdrianG | but they should be cheap enough to make | 15:33 |
| AdrianG | aspherical custom order contact lens from rigid materials is 30-40 bucks | 15:34 |
| AdrianG | shipping included | 15:34 |
| ThomasEgi | kanzure, as an EE student i better do :D otherwise i would fail at my exams | 15:34 |
| AdrianG | how do you embed an lcd screen inside a lens? | 15:34 |
| ThomasEgi | not at all. | 15:34 |
| ThomasEgi | you'd use tiny led's | 15:34 |
| ThomasEgi | that focus directly on the retina. | 15:35 |
| AdrianG | ok these lenses are 0.08mm thick | 15:35 |
| ThomasEgi | a whole array of them. elastically suspenden on a grid | 15:35 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: alexa is primarily a browser plugin that tracks where people go.. and it's installed on like 20k user's computers or somethig, really tiny user population | 15:35 |
| AdrianG | you could go up to maybe 0.14mm | 15:35 |
| ENKI-][ | kanzure: let me put it this way. i'm extremely happy that someone is willingly fucking up her body in the name of experimentation so that someone else doesn't have to do it less willingly. i'm happy that lepht figured out that transdermal implants are dangerously vulnerable to catching on things, for instance. | 15:35 |
| AdrianG | 9.5mm diameter or so | 15:35 |
| AdrianG | zero space to work with | 15:35 |
| kanzure | ENKI-][: but there's the thing- a lot of that was already known | 15:35 |
| ENKI-][ | the fact that lepht exists and documents her mistakes makes me much *less* likely to try to repeat them | 15:35 |
| ENKI-][ | well, known by whom? | 15:36 |
| AdrianG | what did he do | 15:36 |
| kanzure | by people who look shit up | 15:36 |
| ThomasEgi | ENKI-][, no need to cut yourself up to learn bout transdermals :D medicin has enough bad examples for that. but then. some people found a way to get away with it using some sort of woven material. might have been dynema. not sure tho | 15:36 |
| ENKI-][ | not known by lepht, clearly. some of this was not known by me, and i look shit up compulsively. | 15:36 |
| delinquentme | like correct me if im wrong here but you're always going to have people pushing the boundaries | 15:36 |
| delinquentme | Id go so far as saying that *WE* are some of those people | 15:36 |
| kanzure | that's not a boundary! | 15:36 |
| kanzure | jeeze | 15:36 |
| AdrianG | how does it cost to place some small circuits on a lens? | 15:37 |
| AdrianG | like a small run in a fab | 15:37 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, fact or opinion? | 15:37 |
| AdrianG | how much* | 15:37 |
| ThomasEgi | lepht had some not so bad idea. but she's lacking a lot of knowledge. she could've avoided most of her errors | 15:37 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: fact. | 15:37 |
| delinquentme | false. | 15:37 |
| ENKI-][ | delinquentme: that's exactly my point. better to have crazy suicidal people pushing boundaries and making examples of themselves willingly than mass produce a thing that'll kill sane people | 15:37 |
| delinquentme | that is your opinion | 15:37 |
| AdrianG | all you need is RGP lens + deposited circuits + coating | 15:37 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: i think you just idolize lepht | 15:37 |
| delinquentme | people implant chips into their pets for tracking and shit all the time | 15:37 |
| AdrianG | fuck i should patent this | 15:37 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: there's lots of other medical history about implants | 15:37 |
| kanzure | not just pet implants | 15:37 |
| kanzure | tell me how this is "groundbreaking" ? | 15:37 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, lol I just don't want to point people at the door because they do things we're not comfy with | 15:38 |
| kanzure | the point isn't to be groundbreaking or push boundaries at all, in the first place | 15:38 |
| ThomasEgi | AdrianG, a lot. you'd want to have such an array custom made. and semiconductor labs arent cheap | 15:38 |
| kanzure | so why would you say lepht is pushing boundaries? you're full of crap | 15:38 |
| delinquentme | I totally agree that its not the ideal candidate ( someone who might be chopping for attention sake ) | 15:38 |
| delinquentme | but still! | 15:38 |
| kanzure | it was "a simple at-home operation you can do to embed a magnet in your finger" | 15:38 |
| kanzure | (or hand) | 15:38 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, would you implant shit into your body that you designed? | 15:38 |
| kanzure | not a magnet | 15:38 |
| delinquentme | can we both agree that 100 years down the road well all be implanting shit into us? | 15:39 |
| delinquentme | then case close its ground breaking | 15:39 |
| kanzure | what does that have to do with anything? | 15:39 |
| delinquentme | not in the cleanest of ways | 15:39 |
| delinquentme | but it still is clearly something people are working towards | 15:39 |
| kanzure | i think you're jumping the gun here... lots of people have implants already. lepht did not invent medical implants. | 15:39 |
| kanzure | lepht also did not invent at-home magnet implants. | 15:39 |
| delinquentme | true true but all I ask is dont kick them out :D | 15:39 |
| delinquentme | tell them that I handle the crazies or something | 15:39 |
| -!- strages_shop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 15:39 | |
| kanzure | i think lepth has done a net /negative/ service | 15:40 |
| delinquentme | you know im off like that | 15:40 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, maybe | 15:40 |
| kanzure | *lepht | 15:40 |
| ThomasEgi | kanzure, she did draw some attention. and gathered a bunch of interested people | 15:40 |
| delinquentme | but perhaps our awesome selves could lend direction? | 15:40 |
| kanzure | ThomasEgi: yeah... all the wrong kinds of attention | 15:40 |
| kanzure | ThomasEgi: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/12/transcending-the-human-diy-style/ | 15:40 |
| ENKI-][ | lepht has made a spectacular example of herself. people are less likely to cut themselves up because of her, because she has documented the results well and made them very easy to find for the kinds of people looking for them. | 15:40 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, us walking around saying that we want to live forever | 15:40 |
| delinquentme | in some peoples opinions | 15:40 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: lepht has ignored most of us in here | 15:40 |
| ThomasEgi | there are some rather skilled people amongst those "wrong" kinds" | 15:40 |
| delinquentme | is bad publicity | 15:40 |
| delinquentme | ^^ | 15:41 |
| kanzure | ThomasEgi: what does that have to do with promoting lepht | 15:41 |
| kanzure | if these people are skilled, let them submit their own designs and projects | 15:41 |
| ThomasEgi | not promoting her. just wanted to mention that not all things she did turned out to be negative | 15:41 |
| kanzure | no, because now peopel think "biohacking" means "hacking up yer tendons bro!" | 15:41 |
| ThomasEgi | in fact. lepht pretty much vanished after her show on the ccc | 15:42 |
| kanzure | *people | 15:42 |
| kanzure | how is this different from stelarc or something, anyway | 15:42 |
| ThomasEgi | guess that would be grinding^ | 15:42 |
| ThomasEgi | biohacking is by far broader | 15:42 |
| ThomasEgi | but wiring up your nerve systam . i would concider this to be part of biohacking too. | 15:43 |
| kanzure | for sure. | 15:43 |
| ENKI-][ | oh | 15:43 |
| kanzure | a lot of BMzine or whatever is about getting publicity and attention based on shock value (marketing) | 15:43 |
| kanzure | let's stay away from that and focus on specific results instead. | 15:43 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, you'd make a good father | 15:44 |
| ENKI-][ | ThomasEgi: i read her blag. sometime shortly after her talk at the CCC she went into a depressive spiral for six months, constructed an 'exit hood', then decided against it, then lost her source of income and barely ate anything for a few months, then came back to take exams. | 15:44 |
| delinquentme | but really do you want to take on the responsibility of sheltering the world from the extremes? | 15:44 |
| ENKI-][ | as a result of this her real name and address was leaked | 15:44 |
| ENKI-][ | kind of interesting | 15:44 |
| kanzure | i'm not "sheltering the world", i'm trying to keep this channel on-topic and doing great work | 15:44 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, just dont kick out the crazies please | 15:45 |
| ThomasEgi | ENKI-][, she's an interesting personality for sure. | 15:45 |
| kanzure | making up new freakshows isn't particularly useful | 15:45 |
| ENKI-][ | i mean, interesting in a car wreck kind of way | 15:45 |
| delinquentme | lolol | 15:45 |
| ThomasEgi | kanzure, oh come on. we all need some entertainment every now and then | 15:45 |
| ENKI-][ | maybe i should finish reading Crash. i wouldn't feel so guilty about finding her hot | 15:45 |
| delinquentme | and there are plenty of interesting projects going on here that maybe we've got a impressionable INTELLIGENT mind to add to the group | 15:45 |
| delinquentme | you WANT the ones who say FUCK EVERYONE | 15:46 |
| ENKI-][ | *shrug* | 15:46 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: that's not what we're talking about here | 15:46 |
| delinquentme | afterall thats who WE are | 15:46 |
| delinquentme | we're saying normal society is busted | 15:46 |
| delinquentme | she thinks the same way | 15:46 |
| kanzure | also, lepht effectively said "fuck you" to the biohacking community- never communicates or collaborates or acknowledges its existence | 15:46 |
| ENKI-][ | reasonable people don't typically contribute nearly as much as people driven by insatiable neuroses | 15:46 |
| kanzure | which is fine, there is no obligation to | 15:46 |
| delinquentme | I think I agree w ENKI-][ | 15:46 |
| kanzure | but you should notice that trend. | 15:46 |
| delinquentme | notice what trend? | 15:47 |
| ENKI-][ | so long as the distribution of neuroses is even, we should average out to something reasonable | 15:47 |
| delinquentme | just realize that being the agressor here | 15:47 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: the trend i explained about lepht not engaging with the existing biohacking scene. a little strange aint it? | 15:47 |
| delinquentme | IDK .. is it a good idea? | 15:47 |
| kanzure | yes it is | 15:47 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, listen you're talking about someone whos got some issues | 15:47 |
| delinquentme | just try to give that father compassion to her | 15:48 |
| kanzure | yes. those issues should be separated from 'diy transhumanism' and 'biohacking'. | 15:48 |
| delinquentme | because shes too advanced and ballsy? | 15:48 |
| delinquentme | that sounds stupid | 15:48 |
| kanzure | no? | 15:48 |
| delinquentme | as stated. | 15:48 |
| delinquentme | you know well be doing this 100 years in the future | 15:48 |
| ENKI-][ | because she's self-destructive, maybe. | 15:48 |
| delinquentme | what designates it as too early | 15:48 |
| kanzure | you're putting words into my mouth. i didn't say she was ballsy. | 15:48 |
| delinquentme | ENKI-][, is she dead? | 15:48 |
| delinquentme | I said she was ballsy | 15:48 |
| ThomasEgi | delinquentme, if you are talking bout implants. they are pretty standard , today already | 15:48 |
| ENKI-][ | but i don't think she's going to trick sane people into cutting themselves open | 15:48 |
| kanzure | ENKI-][: i think she has :) | 15:49 |
| ThomasEgi | ENKI-][, that was not her goal | 15:49 |
| ENKI-][ | delinquentme: not yet, so far as i can tell. | 15:49 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, why do you want to exclude people | 15:49 |
| delinquentme | ? | 15:49 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: nothing about that is 'ballsy'. you know what those neuroses are ? not healthy. | 15:49 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, as stated by you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 15:49 |
| delinquentme | for fuck sake | 15:49 |
| delinquentme | you dont want to die! | 15:49 |
| kanzure | neuroses are common medical terms | 15:49 |
| delinquentme | I DONT WANT TO DIE | 15:50 |
| kanzure | what does that have to do with marketing yourself as a freakshow? | 15:50 |
| delinquentme | thats a fucking neurosis as defined by 90% of humanity | 15:50 |
| kanzure | what the hell man | 15:50 |
| delinquentme | for christ sakes frame this shit | 15:50 |
| kanzure | ok, that's not the one we're talking about | 15:50 |
| ENKI-][ | delinquentme: she goes through very long periods of being damned close. but, she has all sorts of health problems entirely unrelated to cutting herself open. | 15:50 |
| kanzure | nothing about this conversation was about longevity | 15:50 |
| delinquentme | Oh ok awesome so lets just let this poor girl sit alone because shes weird to us | 15:50 |
| delinquentme | THAT is fucking stupid | 15:50 |
| ENKI-][ | >.> | 15:50 |
| kanzure | what ? i reached out on multiple occassions, heard nothing | 15:50 |
| delinquentme | Bryan Bishop this conversation is about pushing limits and who regards who as crazy | 15:50 |
| delinquentme | YOU say shes crazy | 15:51 |
| kanzure | plus, the biohacking and diy transhumanism groups have been around for a while - heard nothing too | 15:51 |
| delinquentme | SOCIETY says WERE crazy | 15:51 |
| ENKI-][ | you came into this conversation a little late, delinquentme. i think you should go read her blog. | 15:51 |
| delinquentme | Explain how we are so far apart | 15:51 |
| kanzure | that's not pushing limits | 15:51 |
| kanzure | we've already went over this. | 15:51 |
| ENKI-][ | because the rest of us know a whole lot more about lepht than you do. | 15:51 |
| delinquentme | ENKI-][, i see a kid whos obviously interested and who doesnt quite have direction | 15:51 |
| delinquentme | IM that kid | 15:51 |
| delinquentme | ok | 15:52 |
| delinquentme | THAT is why | 15:52 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: we have offered you lots of direction | 15:52 |
| kanzure | also, you're not marketing yourself as a freakazoid representing biohacking to the FBI or something | 15:52 |
| delinquentme | you're missing the point kanzure | 15:52 |
| ENKI-][ | delinquentme: this is irrelevant to the subject of lepht. as i said, i think you should read her blog and get context. | 15:52 |
| * ThomasEgi totaly lost this conversation... | 15:52 | |
| kanzure | ThomasEgi: i'm just as confused as you are | 15:52 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, just dont kick crazies out | 15:52 |
| delinquentme | please | 15:52 |
| delinquentme | i have infographics to go make | 15:53 |
| ENKI-][ | >.> | 15:53 |
| kanzure | are you talking about flamoot? | 15:53 |
| ENKI-][ | i don't think she's +b. | 15:53 |
| ENKI-][ | huh | 15:53 |
| ThomasEgi | delinquentme, i totaly don't get your point. please dont take that personally but i cant follow your thoughts at all. | 15:53 |
| ENKI-][ | was flamoot here? | 15:53 |
| kanzure | she's never made contact with the diybio, biohacking or other subscenes at all | 15:53 |
| delinquentme | ThomasEgi, my point is this | 15:53 |
| kanzure | ENKI-][: yes, for years.. | 15:53 |
| ENKI-][ | i never ran into him | 15:53 |
| delinquentme | please dont kick people out of the channel because you happen to regard them as a little wilder than you | 15:53 |
| kanzure | ENKI-][: he is a smart guy. totally banned on 4chan for a reason. | 15:53 |
| delinquentme | SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE | 15:54 |
| delinquentme | we are the crazies .. we are those people who are a little wilder than 90% of society | 15:54 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: nothing about this is about someone being "wilder than me", believe me | 15:54 |
| delinquentme | GRok this please | 15:54 |
| ENKI-][ | he gave me his wonderful yet totally incomprehensible bot | 15:54 |
| ThomasEgi | nothing was about kicking anyone off a channel either? | 15:54 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, lets not argue semantics | 15:54 |
| kanzure | i am not the standard for 'wild' | 15:54 |
| delinquentme | you understand what im saying | 15:54 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: actually no, i don't. | 15:54 |
| delinquentme | uncomfortable / crazy / nuts / etc etc etc | 15:54 |
| delinquentme | put in whatever TERM you want | 15:54 |
| delinquentme | Just because she does things that YOU PERSONALLY think are bad | 15:55 |
| delinquentme | dont fucking boot them | 15:55 |
| delinquentme | im saying in the context of this specific channel | 15:55 |
| ThomasEgi | delinquentme, noone is booting anyone? | 15:55 |
| delinquentme | thats what I was on about | 15:55 |
| ENKI-][ | delinquentme: we have not kicked lepht out of the channel, nor have we ostracized her. we certainly have not ostracized her for being strange. we are simply not in general agreement over whether or not people will be influenced by her to cut themselves open who would not otherwise cut themselves open. | 15:55 |
| delinquentme | so! then we're good | 15:55 |
| delinquentme | I have a certain propensity to the crazies | 15:56 |
| delinquentme | I think they're probably hugely intelligent | 15:56 |
| delinquentme | and they're put down constantly by people .. SO lets not be those people | 15:56 |
| ThomasEgi | ENKI-][, talking about that, i doubt she'll influence anyone to cut themselves open. maybe only inspirating those who had the desire to do that anyway. giving them a few ideas etc. | 15:56 |
| delinquentme | and instead recruit an ally | 15:56 |
| delinquentme | =] | 15:56 |
| ENKI-][ | kanzure: from the way he writes python code, i suspect that flamoot might be schizophrenic. would you agree with this analysis? | 15:56 |
| kanzure | ThomasEgi: that's the problem | 15:56 |
| * delinquentme dismounts the yelling block | 15:57 | |
| kanzure | ThomasEgi: they are calling that biohacking and transhumanism now, which is bullshit | 15:57 |
| kanzure | this is why lepht is causing net harm | 15:57 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, that sounds like someone who is ignorant of the commnity | 15:57 |
| kanzure | ENKI-][: flamoot is a known schizophrenic | 15:57 |
| ENKI-][ | ah | 15:57 |
| ThomasEgi | what L is doing is grinding afai can tell. | 15:57 |
| kanzure | ENKI-][: i think archels has personally met flamoot | 15:57 |
| delinquentme | soooo some hick in a country bar talking about crazy shit | 15:57 |
| kanzure | ENKI-][: i could be wrong it might be augur? :x | 15:57 |
| ENKI-][ | *shrug* | 15:58 |
| ThomasEgi | given, it was taken up by some people with more scientific backgrounds. who are now working on more sophisticated implants that allow human-machine interfacing. | 15:58 |
| kanzure | "it was taken up" what is "it" | 15:58 |
| ThomasEgi | that very rudimentary grinding lepht performed | 15:58 |
| kanzure | i don't think that's true. there's a long history of medical implant technology that lepht is completely unrelated to. | 15:59 |
| ThomasEgi | sure. but there's been very little history about non medical implants | 15:59 |
| ENKI-][ | kanzure: anyhow, one of the ops in ##ai had a long flamewar with flamoot's bot, until i told him it was a bot. he didn't believe me, and then i eventually convinced him and he kickbanned both of us. i found out later from gareth nelson that the guy had been until recently in ben goertzel's employ working on cog's PLN system | 15:59 |
| delinquentme | someones talking microfluidics on diybio | 16:00 |
| ThomasEgi | while pacemakers are very common. wiring up neurons to extend a human bodys capabilities is not common at all | 16:00 |
| ENKI-][ | lepht ain't doing that, for sure. and, also, that was being done initially by researchers in the early 90s | 16:00 |
| ThomasEgi | true | 16:01 |
| ThomasEgi | but if technologie doesnt get out of a lab. it aint of much use. | 16:01 |
| ENKI-][ | lepht was being semi-professional with the compass thing, and having someone else do the designs and such, and was going to have it implanted by an actual surgeon. she seems to have dropped it, which is too bad | 16:01 |
| kanzure | ENKI-][: that sounds more interesting to me | 16:01 |
| ENKI-][ | the southpaw? | 16:02 |
| kanzure | (except, the compass thing sounds mostly useless) | 16:02 |
| kanzure | no | 16:02 |
| ENKI-][ | *shrug* | 16:02 |
| kanzure | getting someone else to look over the designs, and having an additional surgeon | 16:02 |
| kanzure | is what i meant. | 16:02 |
| ENKI-][ | well, yeah | 16:02 |
| kanzure | even quinn norton had an extra person to do the surgery | 16:02 |
| kanzure | and todd. | 16:02 |
| ENKI-][ | i mean, half her finger magnets were done by a professional | 16:02 |
| delinquentme | well yeah thats just a good practice | 16:02 |
| delinquentme | half =] | 16:02 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: she was advocating for, uh, not doing that | 16:02 |
| delinquentme | =/ ** | 16:02 |
| ENKI-][ | she did the rest herself because she didn't have the money to fly to the united states | 16:02 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: i think you shouldn't put so much trust in your crazies | 16:02 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: think for yourself | 16:03 |
| ENKI-][ | and they won't do that for you in the UK | 16:03 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, which sounds like the exact reason she should get a 2nd opinion from someone she might trust | 16:03 |
| ENKI-][ | at least, that's what she said... everywhere | 16:03 |
| ThomasEgi | trusting people can be difficult | 16:03 |
| delinquentme | this is true | 16:03 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: crazies have problems with trust | 16:03 |
| delinquentme | lol yeah | 16:03 |
| ENKI-][ | >.> | 16:03 |
| ENKI-][ | kanzure: you knew that most of her implants were done by professionals, right? | 16:04 |
| delinquentme | but like if everyone regards you as some kind of lunatic | 16:04 |
| delinquentme | well you're not getting good help from them | 16:04 |
| delinquentme | at least we could have advocated some kind of DIY silicon or something | 16:04 |
| delinquentme | i know it sounds terrible as it is | 16:04 |
| delinquentme | and the fingertips | 16:04 |
| delinquentme | gaah | 16:05 |
| delinquentme | no thanks | 16:05 |
| ThomasEgi | hehe. | 16:05 |
| kanzure | ENKI-][: more or less, yes | 16:05 |
| ThomasEgi | fingertips do hurt^ | 16:05 |
| kanzure | ENKI-][: still, when you have 2 youtube videos and 50% of your content is "Me screaming in pain/agony"... | 16:05 |
| delinquentme | lol yeah like | 16:05 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, i see what you're saying its totally like some suicidial reminiscent stuff | 16:05 |
| ENKI-][ | kanzure: well, yeah. i mean, that got a lot of press compared to everything else, because media like pathos. | 16:05 |
| delinquentme | ^^^^ | 16:05 |
| delinquentme | tis true | 16:06 |
| delinquentme | TIL the NYT said the internet was a fad in 2008 | 16:06 |
| delinquentme | and we should all get back to reading news papers | 16:06 |
| ThomasEgi | i should mention that the latest idea about those magnets is to use PTFE coated stirring bars. tiny enough to be injected with a hypodermic needle. makes implantation a lot easier | 16:06 |
| kanzure | stop using redditisms >:( | 16:06 |
| delinquentme | lol | 16:06 |
| ENKI-][ | kanzure: but at least ostensibly she wasn't doing it that way for shits and giggles, and at least ostensibly she didn't intend to suggest that other people should cut themselves up. | 16:06 |
| kanzure | ENKI-][: actually, she *was* doing it for shits and giggles. one sec. | 16:07 |
| AdrianG | anyone knows who thyla_lrb is ? | 16:07 |
| kanzure | "i have been known to slice my arms open for shits'n'giggles, sure, and do a fair amount of damage in the process (none of this emo cat-scratch bullshit, i've split my arm to the tendons like the little psychopath i sort of am), but this is not something i do when properly medicated. i need a better way of communicating that." | 16:07 |
| -!- jmil [~jmil@173-161-142-133-Philadelphia.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: jmil] | 16:07 | |
| delinquentme | lol | 16:08 |
| delinquentme | so yes unstable | 16:08 |
| kanzure | in general i do not support that being what we show the media as the face of 'diy transhumanism' and 'biohacking' | 16:08 |
| ENKI-][ | kanzure: it's arguably a sign of mental instability to prefer doing unanesthetized surgery on your fingertips by yourself over not having magnets there, but that's a different story | 16:08 |
| kanzure | absolutely not. | 16:08 |
| delinquentme | reminds me of the girl from firefly | 16:08 |
| ThomasEgi | kanzure, i agree on the media thing. none the less, it is an interesting area of research, if done properly | 16:08 |
| delinquentme | ^^^^^^^^^^^ | 16:08 |
| delinquentme | As soon as we've got proven methods for information uploads | 16:08 |
| delinquentme | IM WITH IT | 16:09 |
| ThomasEgi | delinquentme, working on it :) | 16:09 |
| ThomasEgi | stuffing wikipedia in your arm aint terribly difficult these days | 16:09 |
| ThomasEgi | it fits on a microSD card after all | 16:09 |
| ENKI-][ | kanzure: and, a lot of people have periods of suicidal violence. saying that it reflects badly on the DIYbio community is a little strange; a much higher percentage of highschoolers do it than transhumanists, and the intent is never transhumanist. | 16:09 |
| delinquentme | lolol | 16:09 |
| kanzure | ThomasEgi: i've already explained my position on that argument (it's not particularly useful, so i don't see it as an interesting avenue to explore - magnets in finger tips seems like a dead end, compared to other implants) | 16:09 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, agreed! | 16:09 |
| ENKI-][ | kanzure: in other words, the quote you pasted works *against* your argument | 16:09 |
| ThomasEgi | kanzure, it aint terribly usefull, but it is an interesting experience. | 16:10 |
| delinquentme | thats another thing .. its like " Okay " ... " What does it do? " | 16:10 |
| ThomasEgi | like a way to get started with the topic | 16:10 |
| kanzure | ENKI-][: you think that suicidal violence is an okay thing to support? what? please explain | 16:10 |
| delinquentme | IDK | 16:10 |
| delinquentme | isnt it just like all the problem kids | 16:10 |
| delinquentme | lol | 16:10 |
| kanzure | ThomasEgi: i think there are many other ways to get started in transhumanism: molecular biology, neurophysiology, nootropics, etc. | 16:10 |
| delinquentme | they just need direction | 16:10 |
| delinquentme | PS how many people call you nuts for being deeply interested in noots? | 16:11 |
| kanzure | ThomasEgi: wearable computing is probably the first one i should mention :/ | 16:11 |
| ENKI-][ | kanzure: i don't see how not vocally objecting to someone performing something that is clearly not suicidal violence is equivalent to supporting suicidal violence. | 16:11 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: absolutely none. | 16:11 |
| delinquentme | you take a walk down to somewhere in mississippi and youll find plenty | 16:11 |
| delinquentme | bible belt? | 16:11 |
| delinquentme | yeap! those guys too | 16:11 |
| kanzure | why would i talk to them? | 16:11 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, how can you say "absolutely none" | 16:11 |
| delinquentme | question mark | 16:12 |
| kanzure | well, most of my friends are transhumanist | 16:12 |
| delinquentme | like thats a stretch | 16:12 |
| ThomasEgi | kanzure, well. at some point you need rat labs right? | 16:12 |
| kanzure | i have many many transhumansit friends | 16:12 |
| delinquentme | LOL! | 16:12 |
| delinquentme | ThomasEgi, << thinking aheard | 16:12 |
| delinquentme | ahead** | 16:12 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: i just don't see the point in arguing about politics, religion or whatever with your bible belt.. doesn't seem productive ? | 16:12 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, this is true. | 16:12 |
| kanzure | i'd be happy to know them in more limited capacities, but trying to argue about the intricacies of quantum electrodynamics with a bible thumper seems like a hopeless pasttime? | 16:13 |
| ENKI-][ | heh | 16:13 |
| ThomasEgi | indeed. one of the most efficient ways to kill your productive time and to rise your blood pressure | 16:13 |
| ENKI-][ | arguing about quantum electrodynamics with me is hopeless, too. i hope that's not your heuristic for determining whether or not someone is worthwhile to talk to | 16:14 |
| kanzure | ENKI-][: that's my heuristic for whether or not you are worthwhile to talk to about QED in particular | 16:14 |
| ThomasEgi | ENKI-][, at least you wont try to end any discussion with the argument that it's a miracle of god^ | 16:14 |
| kanzure | unless i'm explaining things to you, etc. | 16:14 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, sounds masochistic | 16:14 |
| kanzure | what? talking to ENKI-][ ? | 16:15 |
| delinquentme | LOL no bible thumpers | 16:15 |
| -!- chandoo [~chandoo@ool-ad032250.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] | 16:15 | |
| kanzure | you were the one who brought it up | 16:15 |
| delinquentme | ENKI-][, is good people | 16:15 |
| delinquentme | anyone know of startups working in the open journal space? | 16:18 |
| kanzure | don't know why there would be a startup for that | 16:19 |
| kanzure | just use ojs | 16:19 |
| kanzure | there is at least one company that offers hosted ojs installations | 16:19 |
| kanzure | but their prices seemed obnoxiously high (>$500/mo?) | 16:20 |
| delinquentme | hosted open journals? | 16:21 |
| delinquentme | lol is that $500 dollar / month web hosting @_@_ | 16:22 |
| kanzure | it' | 16:22 |
| kanzure | it's hosted ojs installations | 16:22 |
| kanzure | so it's like restricted web hosting (just one thing installed) | 16:22 |
| delinquentme | is OJS a service ? | 16:24 |
| delinquentme | or ojs = open journal space? | 16:24 |
| kanzure | ojs is open journal system, some random set of php files | 16:25 |
| -!- thylane_blondeau [~userid@c-24-61-126-211.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 16:26 | |
| -!- thylane_blondeau is now known as thyla_ | 16:26 | |
| delinquentme | kanzure, who is this company charging this?? | 16:27 |
| kanzure | i don't know, look it up | 16:27 |
| kanzure | https://www.google.com/search?gcx=w&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=open+journal+system+hosted | 16:28 |
| kanzure | http://pkp.sfu.ca/?q=ojs | 16:28 |
| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Journal_Systems | 16:28 |
| delinquentme | ftp://ftp.ncbi.nih.gov/pubmed/J_Entrez.txt << This is an incredibly long list of journals | 16:28 |
| -!- thyla_lrb [~userid@c-24-61-126-211.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] | 16:28 | |
| kanzure | you want this one, i think | 16:28 |
| kanzure | ftp://ftp.ncbi.nih.gov/pubmed/jourcache.xml | 16:28 |
| delinquentme | that is big page | 16:30 |
| ENKI-][ | heh | 16:35 |
| ENKI-][ | why aren't we running our own ojs installs? i mean, dedicated host machines are what, like ten bucks a month? | 16:35 |
| kanzure | ENKI-][: because ojs isn't that useful? :p | 16:37 |
| kanzure | ENKI-][: what would this ojs installation be doing for us? | 16:37 |
| kanzure | wire bending machine: http://blog.pensanyc.com/tagged/DIWire | 16:37 |
| ENKI-][ | i dunno | 16:40 |
| ENKI-][ | whatever it usually does that delinquentme wants it for? | 16:40 |
| ENKI-][ | btw, http://www.modernmythology.net/2012/05/body-modification-freak-or-not-freak.html relevant to our earlier discussion maybe | 16:40 |
| delinquentme | sounds like super easy SEO solution | 16:41 |
| delinquentme | advertise on the company's KWs | 16:41 |
| delinquentme | sell them $500 dollar hosting | 16:41 |
| -!- jmil [~jmil@c-69-249-188-134.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 16:46 | |
| -!- kvltist [~Kvltist@p5B157B2E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 16:50 | |
| kanzure | ENKI-][: eh? neither rex church or lukyanova are trying to represent diy transhumanism or biohacking. they seem to be on personal quests to feel ok with their bodies. | 16:55 |
| -!- nmz787_ [~androirc@108.96.201.187] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 16:55 | |
| -!- nmz787_ [~androirc@108.96.201.187] has quit [Client Quit] | 16:57 | |
| ENKI-][ | kanzure: that's tangential. | 17:07 |
| ENKI-][ | i don't think anybody thinks that emotionally damaged goths who cut themselves with scalpels are typical transhumanists | 17:08 |
| kanzure | you'd be surprised what the media can convey | 17:08 |
| ENKI-][ | the view of transhumanism by the mundanes is probably closer to "middle-aged nerds who got lucky in the dot com boom" | 17:08 |
| ENKI-][ | if not something closer to kurzweil | 17:09 |
| ENKI-][ | you know, seventy-something geezers who don't want to die | 17:09 |
| -!- jmil [~jmil@c-69-249-188-134.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: jmil] | 17:18 | |
| -!- snark_ [~snark@cblmdm24-53-167-49.buckeyecom.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 17:18 | |
| AdrianG | nobody wants to die | 17:21 |
| AdrianG | it just needs to become a more accepted notion | 17:21 |
| delinquentme | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^6 | 17:22 |
| delinquentme | that and most people feel helpless | 17:22 |
| delinquentme | I mean life eternal is what any religion offers us right? | 17:22 |
| AdrianG | old age sux | 17:22 |
| AdrianG | i just dont like the infirmity part of it | 17:22 |
| AdrianG | im ok with death | 17:22 |
| AdrianG | frailty and all, no thx | 17:23 |
| eudoxia | dammit i missed the lepht discussion | 17:24 |
| delinquentme | eudoxia, :D | 17:24 |
| -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 17:24 | |
| eudoxia | she would be cool if it wasn't for the whole genderless woo hoo thing | 17:26 |
| AdrianG | who is it | 17:27 |
| AdrianG | speaking of emotionally damaged | 17:27 |
| AdrianG | we just had a mentally ill pedo raging for hours | 17:28 |
| AdrianG | in #philosophy | 17:28 |
| -!- snark_ [~snark@cblmdm24-53-167-49.buckeyecom.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 17:33 | |
| -!- nmz7871 [~Nathan@cpe-67-242-177-23.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 17:35 | |
| -!- fenn_ is now known as fenn | 17:36 | |
| -!- snark_ [~snark@cblmdm24-53-167-49.buckeyecom.net] has quit [Client Quit] | 17:37 | |
| nmz7871 | hi fenn | 17:37 |
| fenn | hi | 17:38 |
| kanzure | nmz7871: what do you think about that colorimeter kickstarter? | 17:40 |
| -!- jmil [~jmil@c-69-249-188-134.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 17:48 | |
| ParahSailin | http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/20224373.jpg | 17:53 |
| JayDugger | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/iorodeo-colorimeter/educational-colorimeter-kit?ref=live | 17:56 |
| JayDugger | I'd have a little more confidence in the quality of their proposal if the opening video had better lighting, | 17:56 |
| JayDugger | given that they have an optical measuring device as their aim. | 17:57 |
| JayDugger | I've used chromaticity meters quite a lot, but I've not used a colorimeter, and I'll defer to someone more experienced with such meters. | 17:58 |
| JayDugger | And good evening, everyone, | 18:00 |
| -!- augur [~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 18:00 | |
| -!- brownies [u1042@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bzjlpfmxuethwfhk] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 18:09 | |
| kanzure | JayDugger: i asked nmz7871 because of his involvement with http://openspectrometer.com/ and that kickstarter | 18:12 |
| JayDugger | Ah-ha! that looks much more useful. | 18:13 |
| nmz7871 | JayDugger: the colorimeter is sort of a form of a monochromator spectrometer... except that it only has three color sources | 18:36 |
| nmz7871 | there was also this project http://openwetware.org/wiki/Citizen_Science/The_Urinomics_Project | 18:38 |
| nmz7871 | for the price and availability now, i think the iorodeo colorimeter is a cool project, but I want more spectrum than 3 colors :/ | 18:38 |
| -!- Replop1 [~Gwen@ASte-Genev-Bois-154-1-120-174.w90-3.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 18:48 | |
| -!- augur [~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 18:55 | |
| -!- augur [~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 18:56 | |
| -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-52-155-56.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: quit] | 18:59 | |
| delinquentme | can someone grab this paper for me : http://www.sciencemag.org/content/330/6009/1355.full | 19:07 |
| -!- Cat4D [182be7c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.43.231.194] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 19:12 | |
| delinquentme | OOC does anyone else do intermittent fasting? | 19:13 |
| delinquentme | ive got this weird tightness in my throat that happens when I fast | 19:13 |
| delinquentme | any ideas? | 19:13 |
| delinquentme | feels almost like a mild tongue cramp | 19:14 |
| -!- Cat4D [182be7c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.43.231.194] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] | 19:17 | |
| roksprok | delinquentme: how long do you fast? would you suggest others do it? I have been thinking of just not eating 1 day a week | 19:17 |
| delinquentme | roksprok, its phenomenal | 19:18 |
| delinquentme | ive maxed out @ 3 days on nothing but water and coffee | 19:18 |
| delinquentme | like just dont get bored | 19:18 |
| delinquentme | lol cause youll want to eat | 19:18 |
| delinquentme | i problem solved like a CHAMP through those 3 days | 19:18 |
| roksprok | ok will try it...it would be nice to have a way of doing like a blind test | 19:18 |
| -!- Cat4D [182be7c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.43.231.194] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 19:19 | |
| ParahSailin | i usually only eat after 7 | 19:29 |
| JayDugger | delinquentme: I've been practicing I.F. since last October. | 19:35 |
| delinquentme | after talking a a number of people it makes sense that I had awesome even keel focus | 19:36 |
| delinquentme | like there was zero fluctuation in my blood sugar | 19:36 |
| delinquentme | well minimal fluctuation | 19:36 |
| JayDugger | Did you also restrict your carbohydrate intake? | 19:36 |
| delinquentme | well I ate nothing for 3 days | 19:36 |
| delinquentme | right now im not eating carbs | 19:37 |
| delinquentme | totes in a state of ketosis | 19:37 |
| delinquentme | mouth stank =/ | 19:37 |
| JayDugger | Have you checked that with ketostrips or some other product? | 19:37 |
| JayDugger | Yeah, the halitosis...it ends after a while. | 19:37 |
| kanzure | fenn: what's up? | 19:37 |
| JayDugger | I chewed a lot of gum until it eased. | 19:38 |
| delinquentme | oh it eases?? | 19:39 |
| JayDugger | Yeah, after about six weeks, IIRC. | 19:39 |
| delinquentme | and is haliosis the mouth stink? | 19:39 |
| JayDugger | Yes. | 19:39 |
| delinquentme | you currently cutting carbs? | 19:40 |
| JayDugger | The waves of hunger pangs, again in my case, also eased. | 19:40 |
| JayDugger | Yes. I started that about seven years ago. | 19:40 |
| delinquentme | whats your diet like? | 19:40 |
| delinquentme | are you like ripped as shit? | 19:40 |
| JayDugger | According to my wife, green slime. | 19:40 |
| delinquentme | ha! | 19:40 |
| JayDugger | No, but I don't exercise. | 19:41 |
| delinquentme | ohhh | 19:41 |
| JayDugger | A few miles of walking on the weekends, but that's all. | 19:41 |
| delinquentme | why the diet? | 19:41 |
| JayDugger | It saves money, it saves time, it avoids obesity and diabetes. | 19:41 |
| -!- augur [~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 19:41 | |
| JayDugger | It also seems the very easiest way to practice caloric restriction. | 19:42 |
| JayDugger | My wife's green slime joke comes from my habit of eating large amounts of spirulina and chlorella as a soup. | 19:43 |
| JayDugger | Very nutritious, and it tastes like mud. | 19:43 |
| kanzure | hrm. why don't i eat spirulina? | 19:43 |
| JayDugger | It tastes like fish food? | 19:43 |
| kanzure | taste isn't a primary factor in my food intake | 19:44 |
| JayDugger | Sorry, I started in mid-November 2011. | 19:44 |
| delinquentme | lol | 19:45 |
| delinquentme | i really like food =/ | 19:45 |
| JayDugger | https://plus.google.com/u/0/105782463245064497111/posts/117rdhAArfi | 19:45 |
| -!- amphetamine [~amphetami@unaffiliated/amphetamine] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 19:45 | |
| JayDugger | That Google+ thread comes closest to serving as a record of my I.F.. | 19:46 |
| -!- amphetamine is now known as AdrianG_ | 19:46 | |
| JayDugger | I stopped eating any foods with more than 10 g of sugar per serving some years ago. It took me three or four years to taper off, though, and it got easier and easier. | 19:46 |
| JayDugger | I make an exception for fruits, and some dark chocolate comes in under the limit. | 19:47 |
| delinquentme | yeahh dark chocolate | 19:48 |
| delinquentme | i eat waaay too many sweets | 19:48 |
| JayDugger | I used to do that too. | 19:48 |
| delinquentme | 4 years to get used to it you say? | 19:48 |
| delinquentme | Effff | 19:48 |
| delinquentme | i was hoping to be off the diet in like 4 weeks | 19:49 |
| JayDugger | Sweet tooth: Get me a fix! | 19:49 |
| JayDugger | Me: yes, master. | 19:49 |
| -!- AdrianG [~amphetami@unaffiliated/amphetamine] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] | 19:49 | |
| delinquentme | hahah | 19:49 |
| delinquentme | you do have a point | 19:49 |
| JayDugger | Oh, well...four years to "give up" sugar. | 19:49 |
| delinquentme | above link = busted | 19:49 |
| JayDugger | Crud. Google+ permissions. | 19:50 |
| -!- AdrianG_ is now known as AdrianG | 19:50 | |
| JayDugger | Add me on G+, that should fix it. | 19:50 |
| JayDugger | My family has a history of diabetes, and that helped me reduce sugar intake. | 19:51 |
| JayDugger | As for the long-term nature of the project, consider this. | 19:51 |
| JayDugger | You plan to live to see 2016, four years from now. | 19:51 |
| JayDugger | This means you can undertake a long-term project. | 19:51 |
| JayDugger | You can trade off effort with time, and plenty of time can mean less effort. | 19:52 |
| JayDugger | If you fall off the wagon, so to speak, just remount and continue. | 19:52 |
| JayDugger | The only real complicating factor in my diet comes from teetotaling. I just don't like alcohol, so I don't exactly suffer from that. | 19:53 |
| JayDugger | The social aspects of missing meals also lie outside my experience. I only have company at meals on special occasions. | 19:53 |
| JayDugger | Oh, and you can try adding coconut oil and high-quality unsalted butter to your coffee. It is a bit of an acquired taste, but I find it makes I.F. easier. | 19:55 |
| JayDugger | </lecture> | 19:55 |
| delinquentme | patri is about the butter in the coffee | 19:57 |
| JayDugger | Yeah, I like it too. | 19:57 |
| kanzure | any advice for fighting some mediawiki spam? | 19:57 |
| JayDugger | No, I am sorry. No experience there. | 19:58 |
| JayDugger | You might also get chills when starting I.F. That ends too, after 3-6 weeks. | 19:58 |
| delinquentme | JayDugger, can I get you to email that excerpt to me? | 19:58 |
| delinquentme | a few parts it seems were cut off? | 19:59 |
| ParahSailin | http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/09/world/europe/amsterdam-tries-to-change-culture-with-repair-cafes.html?_r=1 | 19:59 |
| JayDugger | Good night, everyone. | 20:01 |
| delinquentme | later JayDugger | 20:02 |
| -!- nmz7871 [~Nathan@cpe-67-242-177-23.rochester.res.rr.com] has left ##hplusroadmap [] | 20:38 | |
| -!- _0bitcount [~ulises11@82.158.225.187.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 21:09 | |
| -!- thyla_ [~userid@c-24-61-126-211.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: The Quran mentions Jesus twenty-five times, more often, by name, than Muhammad] | 21:13 | |
| -!- kvltist [~Kvltist@p5B157B2E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] | 21:17 | |
| -!- Jora [~Jora@24-196-83-11.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 21:17 | |
| -!- NonFish_ [lurking@adsl-99-111-158-0.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 21:17 | |
| -!- Jora [~Jora@24-196-83-11.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has quit [Changing host] | 21:17 | |
| -!- Jora [~Jora@unaffiliated/jora] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 21:17 | |
| kanzure | NonFish_: hola | 21:19 |
| NonFish_ | hi | 21:19 |
| delinquentme | all! | 21:27 |
| delinquentme | Goodnight! | 21:27 |
| -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@c-24-3-85-154.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] | 21:27 | |
| -!- strages_shop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] | 21:28 | |
| -!- _0bitcount [~ulises11@82.158.225.187.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 21:34 | |
| -!- joshcryer [~g@c-75-70-45-40.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 21:35 | |
| -!- joshcryer [~g@c-75-70-45-40.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] | 21:35 | |
| -!- joshcryer [~g@unaffiliated/joshcryer] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 21:35 | |
| -!- Jora [~Jora@unaffiliated/jora] has quit [Quit: Leaving] | 21:58 | |
| -!- jmil [~jmil@c-69-249-188-134.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: jmil] | 22:00 | |
| -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 22:01 | |
| -!- augur_ [~augur@208.58.5.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 22:09 | |
| -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 22:10 | |
| -!- sylph_mako [~mako@118-93-18-64.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 22:13 | |
| -!- klafka [~textual@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 22:17 | |
| -!- klafka1 [~textual@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 22:20 | |
| -!- klafka [~textual@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 22:20 | |
| -!- klafka1 [~textual@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] | 22:28 | |
| -!- jmil [~jmil@c-68-81-252-40.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 22:28 | |
| -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@pppdyn-5f.stud-ko.rz-online.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 22:32 | |
| -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@pppdyn-5f.stud-ko.rz-online.net] has quit [Changing host] | 22:32 | |
| -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 22:32 | |
| -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 22:53 | |
| -!- AdrianG [~amphetami@unaffiliated/amphetamine] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] | 22:54 | |
| -!- NonFish[ [lurking@adsl-99-111-158-0.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 23:08 | |
| -!- NonFish_ [lurking@adsl-99-111-158-0.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] | 23:11 | |
| -!- NonFish[ is now known as NonFish_ | 23:11 | |
| -!- Cat4D [182be7c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.43.231.194] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] | 23:44 | |
| -!- augur_ [~augur@208.58.5.87] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 23:58 | |
| -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 23:58 | |
| --- Log closed Thu May 10 00:00:06 2012 | ||
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.15.0.dev0 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
