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| delinquentme | ahhhhh! ICE COFFEH morning all :D | 05:15 |
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| kanzure | http://owni.eu/2012/05/03/china-hackerspaces-hacking-diy-shenzhen/ | 05:35 |
| ParahSailin | cool | 05:44 |
| delinquentme | state funded nice | 05:57 |
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| * bkero waves from cph | 06:56 | |
| AlonzoTG1 | 2045.com | 07:02 |
| delinquentme | has anyone else thought about a buzword bingo bullshti generator for getting new ideas? | 07:06 |
| kanzure | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/b9creations/b9creator-a-high-resolution-3d-printer | 07:07 |
| kanzure | "We utilize a powerful Deformable Mirror Device (DMD) projector to shine a 1024 x 768 pixel image onto a layer of photo-initiated polymer resin. The result is a quick solid cure of the entire layer in one operation. The layer thickness is typically 100 microns but your model can be sliced even thinner if you need even higher resolution." | 07:07 |
| delinquentme | I mean like throw a bunch of buzz word bullshit in a pool and randomly cut through it | 07:07 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: no, i think that is a bad idea | 07:07 |
| kanzure | you shouldn't have that much trouble coming up with new ideas. | 07:07 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, theres a startup already doing that | 07:07 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, new ideas IMHO are about novelty in inputs | 07:07 |
| delinquentme | change up the inputs get different yields no? | 07:07 |
| kanzure | ok but i don't see how bingo would make it better | 07:07 |
| kanzure | sounds useless to me | 07:07 |
| kanzure | just write a program to combinatorially generate the arrangements. fuck bingo | 07:08 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, yes you're well suited for science | 07:09 |
| delinquentme | you took what i said, obfuscated it | 07:09 |
| delinquentme | restated it | 07:10 |
| delinquentme | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/iorodeo-colorimeter/educational-colorimeter-kit | 07:10 |
| delinquentme | THIS | 07:10 |
| kanzure | you said "buzwrod bingo generator for generating new ideas" | 07:10 |
| delinquentme | could be used for ELISA right? | 07:10 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: i think openspectrometer.com's kickstarter was more robust than that colorimeter | 07:10 |
| delinquentme | well they're using these little rectangular cube things | 07:11 |
| delinquentme | wtf are those lol | 07:11 |
| delinquentme | im sorry i was just watching nathan washing his ass on youtube | 07:16 |
| delinquentme | that b9 res is fucking impressive! | 07:19 |
| delinquentme | id love some chemical impregnated anti hand gunk stuff for my keyboard an mouse | 07:22 |
| delinquentme | HATE sticking to things | 07:22 |
| delinquentme | #cyborgProblems | 07:22 |
| kanzure | what the hell is "#cyborgProblems" | 07:26 |
| kanzure | stop putting hashes in front of things | 07:26 |
| delinquentme | ZOMGGGGG | 07:35 |
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| delinquentme | kanzure, have you ever hit a max on pubmed searched? | 08:35 |
| delinquentme | searches* | 08:35 |
| @kanzure | not yet | 08:35 |
| delinquentme | =] | 08:36 |
| delinquentme | good answer ha | 08:36 |
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| delinquentme | hey is it just me being nuts... | 08:38 |
| delinquentme | but couldn't an algo be designed to route electrical components on a PCB? | 08:38 |
| delinquentme | like all you need is the form factor of each component | 08:39 |
| @kanzure | many layout algorithms already exist | 08:40 |
| @kanzure | some take netlists, like in vhdl/verilog | 08:40 |
| @kanzure | but other systems like geda/kicad implement it for larger components | 08:40 |
| delinquentme | sweet! | 08:42 |
| delinquentme | go humans! | 08:42 |
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| Mokbortolan_1 | delinquentme: yeah, otherwise it'd be real tough to manage all those traces, not to mention trace length | 09:12 |
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| @kanzure | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsQ_q3wI1ak "transmission laserwelding of a microfluidic chip" | 09:15 |
| @kanzure | that looks like 0.5 mm channels? | 09:16 |
| delinquentme | http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3953342 | 09:19 |
| delinquentme | What the fuck | 09:19 |
| delinquentme | Why cant I upvote this? | 09:19 |
| @kanzure | why would you upvote anything in the first place | 09:19 |
| @kanzure | ieet is worth ignoring | 09:19 |
| delinquentme | no seriously | 09:20 |
| delinquentme | i've seen 2 decent articles on HN about life extension | 09:20 |
| delinquentme | and BOTH I could not fucking upvote | 09:20 |
| @kanzure | ok. try logging in first. | 09:20 |
| @kanzure | i still don't see why you should upvote things? | 09:20 |
| delinquentme | I am logged in! | 09:20 |
| @kanzure | you could just bookmark them | 09:20 |
| delinquentme | kanzure seriously | 09:20 |
| ybit | this looks nice: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/b9creations/b9creator-a-high-resolution-3d-printer | 09:21 |
| @kanzure | ybit: lemoncurry? | 09:21 |
| ybit | eh?http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/b9creations/b9creator-a-high-resolution-3d-printer | 09:21 |
| ybit | ignore second pasted link | 09:21 |
| @kanzure | ybit: http://code.google.com/p/lemoncurry/ | 09:22 |
| ybit | is this what he is using? | 09:22 |
| @kanzure | don't think so. | 09:22 |
| delinquentme | is there some kind of time decay on the upvote ? | 09:23 |
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| delinquentme | kanzure, http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/pellissier20120509 | 09:29 |
| delinquentme | i need to test something out | 09:29 |
| delinquentme | would you submit that to HN for me? | 09:29 |
| delinquentme | its already been posted so I'm just seeing if a duplicate submission automatically upvotes | 09:30 |
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| @kanzure | delinquentme: yes dupe submissions will cause an upvote | 09:33 |
| @kanzure | unless the url is different | 09:33 |
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| delinquentme | http://medgadget.com/2012/05/microfluidic-device-filters-blood.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Medgadget+%28Medgadget%29&utm_content=FaceBook | 10:08 |
| delinquentme | I've got this pubmed page: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Creation%20of%20a%20Bacterial%20Cell%20Controlled%20by%20a%20Chemically%20Synthesized%20Genome%22 and I click the display setting .. select XML and click apply ... I end up looking at the XML ... | 10:24 |
| delinquentme | im looking at chrome and the network tab and looking at the code thats being called .. SO the URL thats being hit to generate and return that XML .. should be in there | 10:25 |
| delinquentme | right? | 10:25 |
| @kanzure | not necessarily, it might be a form that calls some url, or some javascript, etc. | 10:27 |
| delinquentme | alright i gotta hop around a bit ... and then ill hack through that :D | 10:32 |
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| delinquentme | okaaaaaa | 11:59 |
| delinquentme | feel better .. little moar awake =] | 11:59 |
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| @kanzure | yashgaroth: hey | 12:46 |
| yashgaroth | yo | 12:46 |
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| delinquentme | kanzure, talk to me a little bit about how these request can be ruted | 12:59 |
| delinquentme | routed* if you don't mind .. so im looking at the request .. theres 4 going on .. 2 of which get no response .. and then 2 that actually have stuff in the headers | 13:00 |
| @kanzure | show me | 13:00 |
| delinquentme | http://imgur.com/a/SeXPf#0 | 13:03 |
| @kanzure | well preferably with copy/paste | 13:04 |
| @kanzure | what the heck am i looking at | 13:04 |
| delinquentme | this is what happens when i click a radio button and apply changes | 13:04 |
| @kanzure | is this a post or a get | 13:04 |
| delinquentme | magic happens then im rerouted to a XML page | 13:04 |
| delinquentme | well there is a post and a get | 13:04 |
| @kanzure | ok. so what is your question? | 13:05 |
| delinquentme | no actually just a post | 13:05 |
| delinquentme | so on that action called 'pubmed" | 13:05 |
| delinquentme | the response is the XML im after | 13:05 |
| delinquentme | OHhhhh | 13:05 |
| delinquentme | wait so if i just make a post to that particular url with those headers | 13:06 |
| delinquentme | it should give me what I want | 13:06 |
| @kanzure | import requests; response = r.get("http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Creation%20of%20a%20Bacterial%20Cell%20Controlled%20by%20a%20Chemically%20Synthesized%20Genome%22", allow_redirects=True) | 13:06 |
| @kanzure | from BeautifulSoup import BeautifulSoup; html = BeautifulSoup(response.content) | 13:06 |
| @kanzure | or you should probably use lxml if you are playing around with..xml.. | 13:07 |
| delinquentme | lxml is python :D | 13:10 |
| delinquentme | this is all rubeh | 13:10 |
| @kanzure | ruby/python.. doesn't matter | 13:11 |
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| @kanzure | nsh: what's up ? | 13:31 |
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| @kanzure | i wonder if i can get the fbi to rename the workshop to 'weapons of self destruction' | 14:31 |
| ThomasEgi | kanzure, the fbi always makes me smile | 14:39 |
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| ThomasEgi | not long ago they raided a mailserver which, mainly, served encrypted mails. | 14:39 |
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| @kanzure | ThomasEgi: in the "i like getting butt raped" way or the "i am genuinely happy" smiling way? | 14:39 |
| ThomasEgi | so the actual owner installed a tiny camera in the server rack | 14:39 |
| ThomasEgi | and the fbi guys came back, adding the machine back into it's slot and they wired it up again | 14:39 |
| ThomasEgi | end of the day, fbi agents got caught on tape my armateurs^ | 14:40 |
| ThomasEgi | so.. yeah. a genuinely happy smile^ | 14:42 |
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| gnusha_ | laser_etcher.git: 48eb253 outline of todo list | 16:14 |
| @kanzure | hooray | 16:15 |
| @kanzure | gnusha_: i should make you sms my pocket | 16:15 |
| gnusha_ | laser_etcher.git: a314425 need to ship the parts | 16:19 |
| @kanzure | fenn: ^poke | 16:19 |
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| @kanzure | Juul: hey | 16:28 |
| Juul | kanzure, heya | 16:28 |
| jrayhawk_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_SMS_gateways if you aren't already aware | 16:33 |
| @kanzure | jrayhawk_: i just use twilio.com or tropo.cmo | 16:34 |
| @kanzure | *tropo.com | 16:34 |
| @kanzure | the email gateways tend to be unreliable | 16:34 |
| fenn | Juul: hey, you are coming to my house this summer? (langton labs) | 16:35 |
| Juul | fenn, hehe, sure! is there an event or are you just asking in general? | 16:36 |
| @kanzure | you two should definitely meet | 16:37 |
| @kanzure | also, neither of you have met klafka yet | 16:37 |
| fenn | it seems you emailed tristan ursell last week regarding staying as a guest | 16:37 |
| fenn | are you currently in the bay area? | 16:38 |
| Juul | fenn, that must've been someone else? | 16:39 |
| Juul | could it have been Malthe? | 16:39 |
| Juul | from biologigaragen? | 16:39 |
| fenn | er, you are marc dusselier, correct? | 16:39 |
| @kanzure | hehehe | 16:39 |
| fenn | sorry i misspelled the name | 16:39 |
| Juul | nope Marc Juul | 16:39 |
| @kanzure | you got the marc part right.. but the other part seems harder to get wrong! | 16:40 |
| fenn | ah. nevermind then :) | 16:40 |
| @kanzure | have you two met yet? | 16:41 |
| Juul | nope | 16:41 |
| Juul | we should | 16:41 |
| Juul | i live in west oakland | 16:41 |
| @kanzure | who else lives in the bay? bkero, brownies, fenn, juul, klafka? | 16:41 |
| Juul | fenn, whatcha doing this weekend? | 16:42 |
| fenn | no plans | 16:42 |
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| fenn | oh, maybe looking at a house in berkeley | 16:43 |
| Juul | cool | 16:43 |
| fenn | what is "biofab database"? | 16:44 |
| fenn | biofab.org seems to be down | 16:44 |
| @kanzure | biofab was drew endy's synthetic biology org | 16:45 |
| @kanzure | juul used to work there | 16:45 |
| Juul | wtf | 16:46 |
| Juul | fenn, thanks | 16:46 |
| fenn | ah finally someone has implemented a connector standard for a variety of electronic sensors http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&keyword=grovefamily | 16:51 |
| fenn | kinda weird that they exclusively use star topology, as i2c works fine as a bus | 16:56 |
| Juul | fenn, http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/grove-i2c-hub-p-851.html?cPath=178_191 | 16:58 |
| fenn | system requirements are "dumb-proof, damn cheap, Not need 5 different types of cable" | 16:58 |
| fenn | oh i see, you can solder the bricks together | 16:59 |
| fenn | no cables needed | 16:59 |
| fenn | neat | 16:59 |
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| brownies | jrayhawk: eh just use Twilio | 17:52 |
| jrayhawk | no u | 17:57 |
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| nmz787 | kanzure: you there? | 18:45 |
| @kanzure | nmz787: yes | 18:46 |
| @kanzure | hey | 18:46 |
| nmz787 | so we are figuring if we don't hear about SF jobs by end of month we need to plan on NYC | 18:52 |
| @kanzure | what about jbei? | 18:52 |
| nmz787 | they won't give me a pay increase unless i have a b.s., which I still need 3 credits to get | 18:53 |
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| @kanzure | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/210251816/usb-based-variable-power-supply-for-small-projects-0 | 19:06 |
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| fenn | jesus christ you don't need $14k to make a circuit board | 19:16 |
| @kanzure | then you should go yell at mitch altman | 19:16 |
| @kanzure | it's your civic duity as a noisebridge member. | 19:16 |
| @kanzure | *duty | 19:17 |
| brownies | which noisebridge member has the civic duty of cleaning the damn place? | 19:18 |
| fenn | noisebridge has no members | 19:18 |
| @kanzure | mr. body, no body | 19:18 |
| brownies | figured | 19:18 |
| fenn | it's pretty "clean" from a dirt standpoint | 19:19 |
| fenn | the real issue is apathy towards putting things back where you got them | 19:19 |
| fenn | if i knew how to fix that, i wouldn't be spending all day cleaning my own "hacked space" | 19:20 |
| fenn | maybe if it cost money to get things out of storage, and you only got the money back when you returned them | 19:20 |
| fenn | that way at least mess would be generating income | 19:21 |
| @kanzure | it could just be reputation, and you have to positively impact reputation of the space to stay | 19:27 |
| @kanzure | i guess that wont work because people can then play social games rather than keeping things organized | 19:28 |
| fenn | the other problem is nobody seems to do anything | 19:28 |
| @kanzure | projects? | 19:29 |
| fenn | i'd rather have mess being generated than not, if it meant projects were being accomplished | 19:29 |
| fenn | but it seems most of the mess is just churn | 19:29 |
| @kanzure | is there a "planet planet" aggregator for noisebridge? | 19:29 |
| fenn | eh? | 19:29 |
| @kanzure | "planet" is a popular blog aggregator | 19:29 |
| @kanzure | installable aggregator that shows posts about what's going on in a community, usually | 19:29 |
| @kanzure | i know there's a mailing list, but that's not the same thing as seeing projects | 19:30 |
| fenn | yeah i don't read the mailing list | 19:30 |
| fenn | wiki/recent changes seems to be the closest | 19:30 |
| fenn | ah spoke too soon: https://www.noisebridge.net/planet/ | 19:32 |
| @kanzure | want to take a stab at nanoengineer? | 19:36 |
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| nmz787 | kanzure: so I say we build 2 gantries in June, and I take one back to NYC... I can owe you the cost if our plans don't pan out i.e. company happens | 19:47 |
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| @kanzure | nmz787: i don't even know what the actual cost is yet | 19:50 |
| nmz787 | google docs spreadsheet says gantry is at $557.70 | 19:53 |
| nmz787 | not including laser related stuff | 19:53 |
| gnusha_ | laser_etcher.git: ad7e459 first draft of bearing block | 19:57 |
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| @kanzure | hahah http://twitter.com/cookbook | 20:59 |
| @kanzure | "Shroom Burgers: steam8portobelo9m; patdry. Mix c grtdcheddr&edam,form4disc; seal btwn shrooms. Dip+2btnegg,c flr&panko; rpt. Deepfry2m/side." | 20:59 |
| @kanzure | parsable! | 21:00 |
| @kanzure | "Mosaic Tea Eggs: China. Happy Easter! Tap,crack ovr6boildegg. Simmr h+c soya/staranise&cinnstick/2T dryblktea/t sug&pep/h2o to cvr. Steep>h." | 21:00 |
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| Volis | what is this place? | 21:33 |
| chevbird | earth | 21:33 |
| @kanzure | a fortress of solitude | 21:33 |
| Volis | i am so lonely #YOLO | 21:35 |
| @kanzure | what the hell is "#YOLO" | 21:35 |
| chevbird | hey all-- anyone from the boston area? i just sent out an email to the bosslab diy guys and was hoping to learn a little more | 21:35 |
| chevbird | you only live once....kids today... | 21:36 |
| yashgaroth | it's some dumb facebook shit | 21:36 |
| Volis | You Obviously Lack Onions | 21:36 |
| @kanzure | lemme think. who oh who is in boston.. | 21:36 |
| Volis | YOLO | 21:36 |
| yashgaroth | david, I would think | 21:37 |
| Volis | David Blaine isn't in Boston. | 21:37 |
| @kanzure | oh, yes, definitely | 21:37 |
| @kanzure | but he's not online at the moment | 21:37 |
| Volis | David Copperfield is dead. | 21:37 |
| yashgaroth | don't know if he's boss enough for bosslab | 21:37 |
| @kanzure | david dalrymple | 21:37 |
| chevbird | David Hasselhoff obviously | 21:38 |
| @kanzure | he probably hasn't gone yet.. he has CBA, what would he need bosslab for :/ | 21:38 |
| Volis | Why he isn't on the beach? | 21:38 |
| bkero | kanzure: got/responded to your email | 21:40 |
| @kanzure | bkero: i saw it, thanks | 21:40 |
| bkero | kanzure: I live in Portland, but that's close enough :) | 21:40 |
| chevbird | kanzure: is this who you're talking about? http://esp.mit.edu/teach/teachers/davidad/bio.html | 21:43 |
| @kanzure | bkero: doh. i don't know why i put you in the 'sf' pile. | 21:47 |
| @kanzure | bkero: take jrayhawk with you when you come over | 21:47 |
| @kanzure | jrayhawk: you will go with bkero | 21:47 |
| @kanzure | chevbird: yes | 21:47 |
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| bkero | kanzure: is jrayhawk in pdx? | 21:53 |
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| bkero | I got some of my college buddies internships down in the bay area, so I have to come down this summer to visit them. | 21:53 |
| @kanzure | bkero: he is in portland, yes | 21:53 |
| jrayhawk | I was planning on heading down to visit the bay area and yosemite in late June. | 21:54 |
| bkero | right on | 21:54 |
| jrayhawk | I would offer to help carpool, but even if you were a legless dwarf I don't think you'd survive the confines of my back seat for twelve hours. | 21:56 |
| jrayhawk | maaaaaybe a legless dwarf in a vegetative state would do okay | 21:57 |
| @kanzure | jrayhawk: you should time it so that you can hang out with us. june 12-16ish | 21:58 |
| jrayhawk | What's the occasion? | 21:58 |
| chevbird | picturing a legless dwarf | 21:58 |
| delinquentme_ | NIGHTEH all! | 21:59 |
| delinquentme_ | <3 | 21:59 |
| jrayhawk | that's a good occasion | 21:59 |
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| @kanzure | jrayhawk: fbi/diybio workshop, then some hackathon thing | 21:59 |
| @kanzure | jrayhawk: the fbi is flying in a lot of ##hplusroadmappers, so i figure it's an okay reason to get together | 21:59 |
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| jrayhawk | Interesting. It's within the realm of possibility, but not really motivating enough to happen. | 22:05 |
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| @kanzure | jrayhawk: what about for the sake of proving that you aren't steve | 22:05 |
| jrayhawk | i suspect he'll be back up in portland by that time, so we'll have failed to prove anything | 22:07 |
| @kanzure | why is he migrating? | 22:09 |
| jrayhawk | You'd best ask him. I think he ran out of things to do in the bay area. | 22:10 |
| @kanzure | that sounds very hard to do | 22:10 |
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| chevbird | night all | 22:41 |
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