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| brownies | kanzure: a 3DOF arm? i dunno | 00:25 |
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| jmil | kanzure: paper will be online in a few weeks | 06:53 |
| jmil | maybe sooner | 06:53 |
| jmil | looking for help to publicize it | 06:53 |
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| kanzure | "I am copying Nancy from DTRA, who is holding a side event the evening of June 13, where your topic may be more relevant." | 07:38 |
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| kanzure | rails exploit in the wild: | 07:47 |
| kanzure | http://blog.pentesterlab.com/2012/06/cve-2012-2661-exploitation-write-up.html | 07:48 |
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| kanzure | roksprok: you should start your real job hunt over here, http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4053076 | 07:54 |
| kanzure | klafka: prior knowledge is listing themselves there | 07:55 |
| kanzure | hrm.. "GetGlue is building one of the largest social networks for entertainment. We have also partnered with 75 major television networks and 10 movie studios. GetGlue is based in New York City" | 07:56 |
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| kanzure | haha, the well-placed flag in all the spacex capsule recovery photos | 08:28 |
| kanzure | http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/image_feature_2266.html | 08:28 |
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| kanzure | "In the late 1980s the original Biosearch was acquired by Millipore Corporation and became Milligen-Biosearch, which was subsequently acquired by PerSeptive Biosystems in 1994, which in turn was acquired by Applied Biosystems in 1998." | 11:57 |
| kanzure | gah | 11:57 |
| yashgaroth | hey kanzure does 'may be more relevant to the DTRA' seems like a compliment or a threat | 11:59 |
| kanzure | not really sure | 12:00 |
| kanzure | to a large extent, diybio has been muddled with "community outreach" initiatives | 12:00 |
| kanzure | and he might be of the opinion that anything that's not "community outreach", isn't the same | 12:00 |
| kanzure | but they have been generally understanding in the past of various diy projects | 12:01 |
| kanzure | hahah | 12:02 |
| kanzure | so that quote is apparently wrong | 12:02 |
| kanzure | wikipedia has even more details | 12:02 |
| kanzure | "In 1987, Biosearch was acquired by New Brunswick Scientific" | 12:02 |
| kanzure | "In 1987, Biosearch was acquired by New Brunswick Scientific[5] who later sold the Biosearch unit to Millipore Corporation in 1988.[6] By 1989, Biosearch was renamed Milligen-Biosearch. Due to the loss of several corporate officers, Milligen-Biosearch was subsequently acquired by PerSeptive Biosystems which in turn was acquired by Applied Biosystems who eventually retired the Biosearch name and products" | 12:02 |
| kanzure | fascinating.. so biosearch stuff was still being built into the 90s? | 12:03 |
| yashgaroth | oh hey, now that I'm confirmed I can probably get us into the new Biosearch, get you a hookup on dem oligos | 12:03 |
| kanzure | "Biosearch was also able to bring other DNA synthesizers to market such as the Biosearch 8700, Biosearch 8800 Prep, and the Cyclone." | 12:04 |
| kanzure | "Biosearch, Inc. experienced 9 years of DNA synthesis instrumentation and chemistry by playing a key role in engineering and manufacturing one of the first automated solid-phase DNA synthesis instruments, the SAM I" | 12:04 |
| kanzure | 9 years to build that ? | 12:04 |
| yashgaroth | might include the entire time they were manufacturing it too; the phrasing is a little ambiguous | 12:05 |
| yashgaroth | playing up the R&D expense also makes them look better when they overcharge a shit-ton for it | 12:06 |
| kanzure | kay did pcr in 1983 | 12:07 |
| kanzure | and had a sam1 | 12:07 |
| kanzure | so by 1983 it was working enough to give to kary mullis | 12:07 |
| kanzure | *kary | 12:07 |
| yashgaroth | to be fair, everyone involved at that time would be perpetually high on acid | 12:08 |
| kanzure | i'm trying to find the SAM1 ad from biosearch | 12:09 |
| kanzure | can't find a decent copy of it | 12:09 |
| kanzure | nice, i'm totally going to use this image | 12:10 |
| kanzure | Synthesis and Cloning of a Gene Encoding Human Interleukin-1β ... | 12:10 |
| kanzure | www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/07328318708056241by DC Humber - 1987 - Related articles | 12:10 |
| kanzure | (1) by phosphotriester methodology using 2-mesitylenesulphonyl chloriddl-methylimidazole as condensing agents on a Biosearch SAM1. DNA synthesiser; ... | 12:10 |
| kanzure | bleh | 12:10 |
| kanzure | Synthesis and Cloning of a Gene Encoding Human Interleukin-1β ... | 12:10 |
| kanzure | www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/07328318708056241by DC Humber - 1987 - Related articles | 12:10 |
| kanzure | (1) by phosphotriester methodology using 2-mesitylenesulphonyl chloriddl-methylimidazole as condensing agents on a Biosearch SAM1. DNA synthesiser; ... | 12:10 |
| kanzure | fdkadkldasj | 12:11 |
| kanzure | http://d3d71ba2asa5oz.cloudfront.net/23000103/images/biosam2%20-%2003.jpg | 12:11 |
| kanzure | that one. | 12:11 |
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| kanzure | thoughts/comments appreciated: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/nucleic/fbi-diybio-dna-v1.pdf | 13:06 |
| yashgaroth | this is for your presentation? why is nanoengineer in there, aside from looking cool | 13:10 |
| kanzure | nmz787 convinced me to at least mention it | 13:11 |
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| AlonzoTG | om | 13:19 |
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| kanzure | yashgaroth: anything else look wrong? | 13:30 |
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| yashgaroth | nah looks good to me | 13:38 |
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| kanzure | <3 CIA | 13:48 |
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| strangewarp | http://www.nature.com/news/anarchists-attack-science-1.10729 - It seems cutting-edge science has a branding problem, among the far-left anarchy crowd | 15:12 |
| strangewarp | Also, note how the bomb-throwing anarchists are still ruining everything for all the peaceful anarchists. Blergh | 15:15 |
| eudoxia | "sorcerer of the atom" | 15:23 |
| eudoxia | hahaha what the christ | 15:23 |
| strangewarp | yeah, that made me double-take and snerk | 15:23 |
| eudoxia | oh those were the same guys who bombed that nanotech lab in Mexico | 15:24 |
| strangewarp | Not the same guys; but it seems they've started talking to one another | 15:24 |
| strangewarp | according to the article, anyway | 15:24 |
| eudoxia | have they actually killed anyone yet? | 15:28 |
| strangewarp | I think the ones in Mexico killed an intern, if I remember correctly | 15:29 |
| eudoxia | "The ever-increasingly acceleration of | 15:37 |
| eudoxia | Technology will lead to the creation of | 15:37 |
| eudoxia | nanocyborgs that can self-replicate auto- | 15:37 |
| eudoxia | matically without human intervention | 15:37 |
| eudoxia | " | 15:37 |
| eudoxia | [Drexler] "has mentioned, highly shaken, the possible spread of a [gray goo] caused by billions of nanoparticles self-replicating themselves voluntarily and uncontrollably [...]" | 15:37 |
| eudoxia | 2012 and still believing in grey goo | 15:38 |
| strangewarp | If you've got a certain academic or political background, grey-goo will sound both cutting-edge and likely, even though it's neither | 15:39 |
| eudoxia | not to mention anyone who bothers to google search will know modern nanotechnology has nothing to do with Drexler's idea of nanorobotics :ß | 15:40 |
| strangewarp | indeed :p | 15:40 |
| eudoxia | basing conspiracy theories off Engines of Creation has proven to be a bad idea time and time again | 15:40 |
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| Urchin | engines of creation was the first shot in the general direction of nanotech beyond the notion of making something really small | 15:58 |
| Urchin | dated, but I liked it when I read it | 15:59 |
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| eudoxia | mainly the whole HTMl stuff | 16:46 |
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| kanzure | Please run pinyconfig --user user.email your@email.com at /usr/share/perl5/Piny/User.pm line 214. | 18:36 |
| kanzure | bryan@bryan:~$ pinyconfig --user user.email kanzure@gmail.com | 18:36 |
| kanzure | Can't call method "owner" on an undefined value at /usr/sbin/pinyconfig line 44. | 18:36 |
| kanzure | whatever. i'll use git config --global. | 18:37 |
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| jrayhawk | thaaaat's interesting | 19:05 |
| jrayhawk | ah, right, i am dumb | 19:05 |
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| jrayhawk | but yes, that is just a restrictive interface to git config --global | 19:08 |
| brownies | "Sorcerer of the Atom" ... i think i'll put that on my business cards | 19:12 |
| gl00m | mine says somethign about used furniture | 19:18 |
| kanzure | why is the aws tax email from "no-reply-aws@amazon.com" ? what's the point of adding -aws to your no-reply address if it's a no-reply address. | 19:28 |
| yashgaroth | amazon loves adding extraneous tags to all of its addresses | 19:29 |
| kanzure | no-reply-but-we-will-read-your-secret-confessions@amazon.com | 19:30 |
| yashgaroth | oh so now that I'm confirmed, when exactly is the official FBI thing starting? june 13th, 9am? | 19:32 |
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| kanzure | yashgaroth: 12th. | 19:36 |
| kanzure | including the 14th. the 15th is probably a biocurious thing (or that might be on the 14th). 16th is definitely jojack's thing. | 19:36 |
| yashgaroth | ah okay, all I knew was the DTRA was doing something on the 13th based on that email, but I'll stay through sunday anyway | 19:37 |
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| kanzure | yashgaroth: it's "in the evvening" on the 13th | 19:38 |
| kanzure | dtra sounds really threatening | 19:38 |
| kanzure | why is u.s. strategic command interested in meeting us? | 19:38 |
| yashgaroth | bored, probably | 19:38 |
| kanzure | well we could definitely make their week more exciting | 19:38 |
| yashgaroth | oh also the address plz | 19:39 |
| kanzure | sorry that's classified | 19:41 |
| yashgaroth | actually if they have an email with all this stuff I could use a fwd:, unless agent head is sending me more info | 19:41 |
| kanzure | Walnut Creek Marriott in Walnut Creek, CA | 19:41 |
| yashgaroth | ok just give me the security codes | 19:41 |
| yashgaroth | wow they really went low-budg huh | 19:41 |
| kanzure | well they were at a more expensive place | 19:42 |
| kanzure | but i think they got over-budget | 19:42 |
| kanzure | yashgaroth: i've forwarded you an email | 19:43 |
| yashgaroth | ah ty | 19:43 |
| yashgaroth | oh so they only want a presentation if they're paying | 19:43 |
| kanzure | i think you should do one anyway :P | 19:45 |
| yashgaroth | they're suitably vague about the agencies that are coming, so maybe I'll get lucky with a darpa recruiter | 19:45 |
| kanzure | last time they wanted suits-and-ties, but this time they haven't mentioned anything of the sort | 19:46 |
| yashgaroth | HA | 19:46 |
| kanzure | i said they /wanted/ haha | 19:47 |
| kanzure | oh interesting, a dna2.0 person is coming | 19:47 |
| kanzure | i'm totally going to urinate all over him | 19:47 |
| kanzure | hsimon@dna20.com | 19:47 |
| yashgaroth | proprietary urine, I hope | 19:47 |
| kanzure | this one sounds fun: lgj9@cdc.gov | 19:47 |
| kanzure | flanaganml@state.gov | 19:48 |
| kanzure | nancy.burgess@dtra.mil | 19:48 |
| kanzure | that cdc person: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/laura-jevitt/0/16b/25a | 19:49 |
| kanzure | uhh. "Homeland Security Exercise and Evaluation Program certification" | 19:49 |
| kanzure | "research/characterization of novel resistance mechanisms for new and emerging hospital pathogens" | 19:49 |
| kanzure | she sounds way more dangerous than the diybio people | 19:50 |
| yashgaroth | but she's with the government, and governments never develop bioweapooooh wait | 19:51 |
| joshcryer | heh | 19:51 |
| kanzure | the dtra person presented here last year: http://cbdstconf2011.sainc.com/conference_agenda/DIYBiology.aspx | 19:51 |
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| joshcryer | what's the interest in dtra? | 19:51 |
| joshcryer | grey goo mitigation or something? | 19:52 |
| kanzure | weiird the only other mention of nancy is in gnusha.org logs | 19:52 |
| kanzure | joshcryer: they are contacting us | 19:52 |
| yashgaroth | I'm actually pretty happy that diybio is considered important enough for the WMD people, since that implies there's nothing better for them to be doing with their time | 19:53 |
| joshcryer | kanzure, sweet. | 19:54 |
| joshcryer | you guys should make them think it's no big deal else they'll be making regs to restrict diybio ;P | 19:54 |
| kanzure | yashgaroth: or it means that you are now a wmd expert | 19:56 |
| kanzure | yes you may put that on your resume | 19:57 |
| yashgaroth | beat me to it | 19:57 |
| kanzure | joshcryer: yeah, last year went pretty well | 19:57 |
| kanzure | joshcryer: http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/fbi-diybio-2011/2011-07-13.txt | 19:57 |
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| kanzure | i wonder if smellycodevomit.org is available | 20:10 |
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| JayDugger1 | Documentation day? | 21:33 |
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| kanzure | JayDugger1: *shrug* just writing documentation for things.. | 21:45 |
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| kanzure | http://eferm.com/machine-learning-cheat-sheet/ | 22:10 |
| kanzure | http://www.privacyparrot.com/ "see if a site sells your personal information" | 22:10 |
| kanzure | http://hastebin.com/ looks pretty nice. | 22:14 |
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| kanzure | "ACRA is used in 2.23% of android apps, and 4.65% of new installs" | 22:15 |
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