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| Burninate | Let the vanguard of the proletariat awaken!!! And camp out in urban parks!!! | 02:01 |
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| Burninate | HALF MAN!! HALF MAN!! | 02:18 |
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| strangewarp | ha | 02:28 |
| strangewarp | The proletariat is going to need some good goddanged luck if they want to catch a break before practically post-scarce resources are the norm | 02:29 |
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| Utopiah | http://www.technologyreview.com/view/428099/psychedelic-drug-research-and-the-data-mining/ | 03:37 |
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| @kanzure | hmm. | 04:05 |
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| delinquentme | Zeolite thermal storage retains heat indefinitely, absorbs four times more heat than water | 05:25 |
| delinquentme | http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/130523-zeolite-thermal-storage-retains-heat-indefinitely-absorbs-four-times-more-heat-than-water | 05:25 |
| @kanzure | ok. | 05:26 |
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| @kanzure | http://www.bis.doc.gov/policiesandregulations/ear/index.htm | 06:27 |
| @kanzure | special materials and related equipment, chemicals, and microorganisms: http://www.bis.doc.gov/policiesandregulations/ear/ccl1.pdf | 06:27 |
| @kanzure | what is See ECCN 1E002.g for control libraries | 06:29 |
| @kanzure | hrm | 06:29 |
| @kanzure | "``Technology'' for the ``development'' or ``production'' of polybenzothiazoles or polybenzoxazoles" | 06:30 |
| @kanzure | "``Technology'' for the ``production'' of aromatic polyamide fibers" | 06:30 |
| @kanzure | "`Libraries' (parametric technical databases) specially designed or modified to enable equipment to perform the functions of equipment controlled under 1A004.c or 1A004.d" | 06:30 |
| @kanzure | "Technical Note: For the purpose of 1E002.g, `library' (parametric technical database) means a collection of technical information, reference to which may enhance the performance of relevant equipment or systems" | 06:30 |
| @kanzure | huh, hazmat suits are on the export control list? | 06:31 |
| @kanzure | heh i like how they have to explicitly list depleted uranium | 06:33 |
| @kanzure | "Filament winding machines, of which the motions for positioning, wrappig and winding fibers are coordinated and programmed in three or more 'primary servo positioning' axes, specifically designed for the manufacture of 'composite' structures or laminates, from 'fibrous or filamentary materials';" | 06:35 |
| @kanzure | "Tape laying machines, of which the motions for positioning and laying tape or sheets are coordinated and programmed in five or more 'primary servo positioning' axes" | 06:35 |
| @kanzure | "Multidirectional, multidimensional weaving machines or interlacing machines" | 06:35 |
| @kanzure | "Equipment for the chemical vapor deposition of elements or compounds, on heated filamentary substrates, to manufacture silicon carbide fibers" | 06:36 |
| @kanzure | "x-ray tomography systems for three dimensional defect inspection" whaaat | 06:36 |
| @kanzure | "Numerically controlled ultrasonic testing machines of which the motions for positioning transmitters and receivers are simultaneously coordinated and programmed in four or more axes to follow the three dimensional contours of the component under inspection" | 06:37 |
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| @kanzure | "Software for process control that is specifically configured to control or initiate 'production' of chemicals controlled by 1C350." | 06:46 |
| @kanzure | "Software specially designed for industrial process control hardware/systems controlled by 1B999 (like: particle accelerators, industrial process control hardware/systems designed for power industries; equipment for the production of structural composites)" | 06:48 |
| @kanzure | "'Technology' for the 'development' or 'production' of polybenzothiazoles or polybenzoxazoles" | 06:49 |
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| @kanzure | "Digital signal processors.. operating at a clock frequency exceeding 40 MHz." | 06:53 |
| @kanzure | "Analog-to-Digital converters with.. a reslution of more than 14 bits with an output rate greater than 20 million words per second" | 06:54 |
| chris_99 | haha | 06:56 |
| @kanzure | "Custom integrated circuits for which the function is unknown, or the control status of the equipment in which htei ntegrated circuits will be used is unknown to the manufacturer, having any of the following: more than 1500 terminals; a typical base gate propagation delay time of less than 0.02 ns; an operating frequency exceeding 3 GHz; " | 06:56 |
| chris_99 | so all that stuff is export restricted? | 06:56 |
| @kanzure | yes | 06:58 |
| @kanzure | "Non-modular analog oscilloscopes having a bandwidth of 1 GHz or greater" | 06:58 |
| @kanzure | "Polygraphs, fingerprint analyzers; automated fingerprint and identification retrieval systems; psychological stress analysis equipment; electronic monitoring restraint devices" | 06:59 |
| @kanzure | mass spectrometers :( | 07:00 |
| @kanzure | "All flash x-ray machines and components of pulsed power systems designed thereof, including Marx generators, high power pulse shaping networks, high voltage capacitors, and triggers" | 07:01 |
| @kanzure | "Equipment for the manufacturing of semiconductor devices or materials, specifically: equipment designed for epitaxial growth; equipment capable of producing a layer of any material other than silicon with a thickness uniform to less than +- 2.5% across a distance of 77 mm or more" | 07:02 |
| @kanzure | "... metal organic chemical vapor deposition reactors, designed for compound semiconductor crystal growth" | 07:02 |
| @kanzure | "... molecular beam epitaxial growth equipment using gas or solid sources" | 07:02 |
| @kanzure | ".. equipment designed for ion implanation having any of the following: beam energy exceeding 1MeV; direct write capability" | 07:03 |
| @kanzure | ".. aisotropic plasma dry etching equipment" | 07:03 |
| @kanzure | *anisotropic | 07:03 |
| @kanzure | "plasma enhanced chemical vapor deposition" | 07:03 |
| @kanzure | ".. automatic loading multi-chamber central wafer handling systems" | 07:04 |
| @kanzure | oh weird. "does not control automatic robotic wafer handling systems specially designed for parallel wafer processing" | 07:04 |
| @kanzure | "... Lithography equipment as follows: photo-optical or step-and-scan or expose-step-repeat with: a light source wavelength shorter than 245 nm; or capable of producing a minimum resolvable feature size (MRF) of 95 nm or less"; imprint lithography equipment capable of production features of 95 nm or less" | 07:05 |
| @kanzure | ".. equipment specially designed for mask making or semiconductor device processing using direct wiriting methods, having all of the following: deflected focused electron beam; a spot size smaller than 0.2 microns; multi-layer masks with a phase shift layer; " | 07:06 |
| @kanzure | "Equipment specially designed for the manufacture of electron tubes"; equipment to build.. crystal pullers" | 07:07 |
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| @kanzure | "electron beam systems .. with a spot size of less than 3 micrometers" | 07:09 |
| @kanzure | oh, "or a positioning accuracy less than 1 micrometers" | 07:09 |
| @kanzure | "Finished masks or reticles for the production of unembargoed integrated circuits" whaaat | 07:09 |
| ParahSailin | what | 07:11 |
| @kanzure | "All resists designed for use with electron beams or ion beams, with a sensitivity of 0.01 microcoulomb/mm^2 or better" | 07:12 |
| @kanzure | "All resists designed for use with X-rays, with a sensitivity of 2.5 mJ/mm^2 or better" | 07:12 |
| @kanzure | this is basically a list of "things that can't be open source hardware" | 07:12 |
| @kanzure | (well, other than patent issues) | 07:12 |
| gl00m | its a brave new world | 07:12 |
| @kanzure | what? | 07:13 |
| @kanzure | no it's not, go away | 07:13 |
| ParahSailin | as i posted before, the only way for nanoimprint patterning to be developed might be open hardware | 07:13 |
| chris_99 | thank god i don't live in the US | 07:13 |
| @kanzure | "Physics-basd simulation software specifically designed for the development of lithographic, etching or deposition processes for translating masking patterns into specific topographical patterns in conductors, dielectrics or semiconductor materials" | 07:13 |
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| @kanzure | ".. A vector processing unit.. designed to perform more than two 64-bit or larger floating point operation results per cycle" bah, let's just outlaw math | 07:15 |
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| @kanzure | doh | 07:19 |
| @kanzure | they have an index here: | 07:19 |
| @kanzure | http://www.bis.doc.gov/policiesandregulations/ear/ccl_index.pdf | 07:19 |
| @kanzure | clean room filters? | 07:19 |
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| @kanzure | submersible vehicles :( | 07:20 |
| @kanzure | 'automatic drug injection systems' | 07:20 |
| gl00m | sounds like time to open a black market for some of this stuff then | 07:21 |
| gl00m | equipmentleaks | 07:22 |
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| @kanzure | http://homes.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de/~smikula/blockface/ | 09:25 |
| @kanzure | Whole-Brain Ultrastructural Mapping | 09:25 |
| @kanzure | "We are mapping the whole mouse brain ultrastructurally using serial blockface electron microscopy. Stay tuned! | 09:25 |
| @kanzure | Example data | 09:25 |
| @kanzure | This is a whole-brain blockface image from the mouse brain taken at 80 nm pixel size" | 09:25 |
| @kanzure | stalk: brainmaps@gmail.com | 09:25 |
| @kanzure | google maps should host datasets like this. | 09:26 |
| chris_99 | ec2 has some nice datasets | 09:27 |
| chris_99 | er s3 i guess | 09:28 |
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| @kanzure | http://henryschwarz.blogspot.com/2012/06/black-hatted.html | 09:40 |
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| @kanzure | "Barnaby chose my company's ATM arbitrarily, it was just the most conveniently available to purchase on the web and be delivered to his home. Note to our salespeople: for security purposes, please make it more difficult to purchase our product" | 09:44 |
| @kanzure | pfft. | 09:45 |
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| @kanzure | "The enormous benefit is that our ATM is now significantly more secure, because we didn't just plug the hole that Barnaby discovered, but we took our defense a thousand times further, and implemented a comprehensive security scheme which includes the cryptographic verification of all files as they are installed and as they are executed." | 09:46 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | translation: We made the PIN requirement 5 characters! | 09:49 |
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| delinquentme | anyone here able to make a reccommendation for a cheap desktop thatll run windows looking for a small form factor with a dual core ~ 2 ghz and external video card | 10:41 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | external video card? | 10:45 |
| chris_99 | usb video? | 10:45 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | or, do you mean, PCI-e video | 10:45 |
| Mariu | AGP ? | 10:46 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | there are external video cards | 10:46 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | AGP is old news | 10:46 |
| Mariu | I know | 10:46 |
| Mariu | PCI-e does not sound cheap | 10:46 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | it's the standard nowadays | 10:50 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | you'd be hard pressed to find new equipment that has either AGP or PCI | 10:50 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | well, maybe a few PCI ports | 10:50 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | or the combo ports | 10:51 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | delinquentme: I suggest checking out dell's outlet | 10:51 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | or building your own | 10:51 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | it's not that hard | 10:51 |
| @kanzure | i think my phone counts | 10:52 |
| @kanzure | 2 GHz | 10:52 |
| chris_99 | your phone is 2GHz?! | 10:53 |
| @kanzure | it depends on how you count all the cores | 10:53 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | mine's dual 1.2 | 10:53 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | with an 8-core GPU! :p | 10:53 |
| chris_99 | you can't sum GHz's | 10:53 |
| chris_99 | imo | 10:53 |
| @kanzure | i think i have at least three ghz in my pocket right now (four phones) | 10:54 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | chris_99: it depends on who you're talking to | 10:54 |
| chris_99 | wrt CPU cores | 10:54 |
| chris_99 | i meant | 10:54 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | for people who don't understand the difference between parallel and serial processing, go ahead and combine the GHz to make them feel better | 10:54 |
| chris_99 | heh, that's the problem Mokbortolan_1 | 10:55 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | "With four motors in my car, I can go four times as fast!" | 10:55 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | err, engines | 10:55 |
| chris_99 | alas i know nothing about car engines ;) | 10:56 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | "If I bolt together these AMC Gremlins, the combined top speed is 160mph!" | 10:58 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | "If I put four together, I can go 320mph!" | 10:58 |
| chris_99 | heh | 10:59 |
| @kanzure | nevertheless: my phone is a monster | 11:00 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | what's it got in it, tegra 2? | 11:00 |
| chris_99 | probably better than my laptop | 11:00 |
| chris_99 | which is currently falling to bits | 11:00 |
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| archels | http://turingbirds.com/temp/Approaching_a_state_shift_in_Earths_biosphere_-_Nature_2012.PDF | 11:31 |
| chris_99 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_hypothesis | 11:33 |
| chris_99 | the earth is a cybernetic system! | 11:36 |
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| jrayhawk | http://www.omgwallhack.org/home/jrayhawk/img/hovel/20120512_008.jpg external PCIe video card | 11:50 |
| archels | mother of god. | 11:51 |
| gl00m | i wasnt far from somethign like that at one point | 11:51 |
| gl00m | i had done away with the case all together and screwed the mobo to a post in the closet wall | 11:52 |
| gl00m | and ran cables through the drywall to the other side | 11:52 |
| jrayhawk | i am looking forward to thunderbolt | 11:52 |
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| gl00m | and ive got an old token ring network i thought about setting up, but then i realised im not a dork, so there was no sense doing all of that work just to feed my ego | 11:53 |
| archels | http://elitedaily.com/elite/2012/high-speed-travel-tubes-ny-beijing-2-hours/ | 12:02 |
| gl00m | oh i thought of a good slogan for the channel | 12:02 |
| gl00m | "civilizatoin has fallen off a cliff, we're trying to build wings on the way down' | 12:03 |
| archels | wrong channel | 12:03 |
| @kanzure | AAAS/FBI joint findings paper | 12:07 |
| @kanzure | http://listserv.aaas.org/pipermail/wspa/attachments/20120424/2f8b73fd/attachment-0001.pdf | 12:07 |
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| @kanzure | beep boop | 12:33 |
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| Utopiah | The Age of Plastic at The Smithsonian live http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UtwaNlrkFo | 13:04 |
| Utopiah | (but now on art stuff) | 13:05 |
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| @kanzure | yashgaroth: take a look at that aaas.org doc | 13:17 |
| yashgaroth | Agent You? was he just transferred off diybio specifically? | 13:18 |
| @kanzure | i think it was just a transfer to washington, i think he's still involved somehow | 13:18 |
| yashgaroth | I love the scenario at the end "The Principal Investigator was Professor Rhea Searcher" "The post-doctoral fellow was Mandip. He was from a foreign country" | 13:34 |
| yashgaroth | anyway it seems pretty standard...a few complaints about regulatory paperwork, 'more transparency', and happily they are concerned with ELF/ALF assholes | 13:35 |
| @kanzure | hahaha mandip | 13:41 |
| yashgaroth | gee I wonder which fictional country he's from | 13:42 |
| @kanzure | "foreign guy in molecular biology lab" is so cliche. | 13:42 |
| yashgaroth | foreign post-doc, no less | 13:42 |
| yashgaroth | anyway they only mentioned amateur bio once, and that was wrt 'outreach', so that's good at least | 13:45 |
| @kanzure | yashgaroth: did you read the diybio sections from the pcsbi reports? | 13:45 |
| yashgaroth | link? | 13:46 |
| yashgaroth | oh...well if they didn't replace all the people bush put in there, I don't wanna read it | 13:47 |
| @kanzure | they did | 13:47 |
| yashgaroth | I'll do a read-through then | 13:48 |
| @kanzure | http://bioethics.gov/documents/synthetic-biology/PCSBI-Synthetic-Biology-Report-12-16-10.pdf | 13:48 |
| @kanzure | note the presence of the muhammad ali family in that group :p | 13:52 |
| yashgaroth | "Department of medicine | 13:55 |
| yashgaroth | and Divinity School" heh | 13:55 |
| @kanzure | my doctorate is blessed by the holy pope, eat me | 14:02 |
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| yashgaroth | seems far more positive about diybio than I expected | 14:15 |
| @kanzure | yashgaroth: because we fought for that | 14:18 |
| @kanzure | we had people show up to their hearings and give presentations | 14:18 |
| yashgaroth | ah yes, jason bobe and I suppose you can count rob carlson | 14:19 |
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| @kanzure | eh. i guess. that list looks extremely unimpressive actually. | 14:20 |
| yashgaroth | oh and drew endy, he may count as well but | 14:20 |
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| _Sketch_ | Are torsional carbon nanotube muscles the only non-biological kind of muscle-like fibre yet produced? | 16:40 |
| _Sketch_ | Although maybe 'non-biological' is the wrong word. Are carbon nanotubes attacked by any common organism? | 16:41 |
| @kanzure | deh? why not just use steppers | 16:42 |
| yashgaroth | electroactive polymers were the original artificial muscles | 16:42 |
| _Sketch_ | Steppers could possibly work. I'm knowledge-gathering at this point. | 16:43 |
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| yashgaroth | I don't think any known organisms specifically degrade nanotubes, or any other form of graphene | 16:45 |
| ParahSailin | it takes singlet oxygen or greater to attach graphene | 16:53 |
| ParahSailin | isnt really any lifeform that can produce those on demand | 16:53 |
| yashgaroth | I'm sure if there was enough graphene laying around to be a viable food source, we'd see a mechanism by now...but that would need a few million years to evolve | 16:55 |
| ParahSailin | er not singlet oxygen, something more oxidizing than that | 16:56 |
| ParahSailin | well theres a lot of graphite in the ground | 16:56 |
| ParahSailin | but theres also not much oxygen in the ground | 16:56 |
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| yashgaroth | yeah, if there was we wouldn't have any coal left by now | 16:58 |
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| klafka1 | hey | 20:09 |
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| @kanzure | hrm | 22:28 |
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