| --- Log opened Thu Jul 12 00:00:02 2012 | ||
| --- Day changed Thu Jul 12 2012 | ||
| nmz787 | why the hell did they have a link there? | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| kanzure | nmz787: http://news.ycombinator.com/ | 00:00 |
| nmz787 | ahh | 00:01 |
| Mokbortolan_ | kanzure: in tdcs, why does the anode side cause potentiation and the cathode dampening, and how far does the effect extend into the tissue on both sides? | 00:02 |
| kanzure | dude i don't even understand voltage as a line integral | 00:02 |
| kanzure | the fuck is a electron pressure unit | 00:02 |
| kanzure | i don't know how to visualize that electric field, either | 00:04 |
| kanzure | i imagine some papers might have some useful visualizations? | 00:04 |
| Mokbortolan_ | http://neuralengr.com/projects/bio-heat-transfer-model-of-tdcs | 00:06 |
| Mokbortolan_ | uhhhh | 00:08 |
| Mokbortolan_ | For the 4 X 1 ring (13.58 mA), significant scalp temperature rise of 14.68 °C and a nominal brain temperature rise of 0.55 °C is predicted. | 00:08 |
| kanzure | Perfectly normal | 00:10 |
| kanzure | *cough* | 00:10 |
| nmz787 | opposite of brain freez | 00:16 |
| nmz787 | just eat ice cream | 00:16 |
| archels | Mokbortolan_: Over what time length, almost instantaneously as the pulse is applied? | 00:16 |
| rdb | tDCS isn't pulsed | 00:17 |
| rdb | it's applied continuously for 20 minutes or so | 00:17 |
| rdb | with slow ramping up and ramping down | 00:17 |
| archels | right, so the temperature rise refers to the entire interval then | 00:17 |
| rdb | I would assume so | 00:17 |
| archels | ignoring temperature homeostatic mechanisms of the body | 00:18 |
| rdb | Mokbortolan_, as for anode vs cathode: it has to do with folding of the cortex, this indicates the orientation of the neurons | 00:18 |
| rdb | unfortunately there is individual variability here | 00:19 |
| -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] | 00:19 | |
| -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 00:20 | |
| rdb | cool, people have induced lucid dreaming using tDCS | 00:21 |
| Mokbortolan_ | link! | 00:21 |
| rdb | http://brmlab.cz/project/brain_hacking/ld2 | 00:21 |
| Mokbortolan_ | oh wait.. so.. ok | 00:21 |
| rdb | there are links at bottom | 00:22 |
| Mokbortolan_ | from the surface, the neurons reach down into the brain | 00:22 |
| Mokbortolan_ | so, the current flowing down into the brain goes down those links | 00:22 |
| Mokbortolan_ | and on the other side, the current flowing out, goes UP those links? | 00:23 |
| rdb | not sure | 00:23 |
| rdb | this page has a lot of information about that sort of stuff | 00:24 |
| rdb | http://brmlab.cz/project/brain_hacking/tdcs | 00:24 |
| rdb | by the way, the significant temperature rise was at 13.58 mA, which is way higher than you'll ever want to go with tDCS | 00:24 |
| Mokbortolan_ | so how do you do the current density calculations with hd-tdcs? | 00:25 |
| Mokbortolan_ | n/m | 00:25 |
| rdb | bbl, breakfast+coffee | 00:29 |
| nmz787 | hmm, I might start using lastpass | 00:39 |
| nmz787 | depending on if I can find what crypto they use | 00:39 |
| rdb | Mokbortolan_, specifcially 'Orientation of neuronal structures relative to the DC vector that determines the effect of tDCS. spike depend on axonal orientation relative to the electric field vector. Axonal orientation determines whether the DC field is excitatory or inhibitory and dendritic orientation affects the magnitude, but not the overall direction, of the DC effect. These data suggest that tDCS may oppositely affect neurons in a stimulated cor | 00:59 |
| -!- splicer [~ubuntu@c83-255-190-140.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] | 01:10 | |
| -!- Thorbinator [~Thorbinat@c-67-166-146-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] | 01:19 | |
| -!- Thorbinator [~Thorbinat@32.174.39.230] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 01:20 | |
| -!- Thorbinator [~Thorbinat@32.174.39.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] | 01:25 | |
| -!- Thorbinator [~Thorbinat@32.174.39.230] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 01:26 | |
| -!- Thorbinator [~Thorbinat@32.174.39.230] has quit [Client Quit] | 01:26 | |
| -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] | 01:28 | |
| -!- nmz787 [~Nathan@ool-457e5cbd.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] | 01:30 | |
| -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 01:33 | |
| -!- azonenberg [~azonenber@2001:470:888b:2:206:70ff:fe01:46] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] | 01:38 | |
| -!- AdrianG [~ircname@unaffiliated/amphetamine] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] | 02:04 | |
| -!- Mariu [Jimmy98@89.41.57.33] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 02:32 | |
| -!- strages_home [~strages@adsl-98-67-167-95.shv.bellsouth.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 03:26 | |
| -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] | 03:40 | |
| -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 03:41 | |
| -!- AdrianG_ [~ircname@unaffiliated/amphetamine] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 04:01 | |
| -!- yesminister [~mariner@adsl-75-56-209-111.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] | 04:13 | |
| -!- nmz787 [~Nathan@ool-457e5cbd.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 04:24 | |
| -!- nmz787 [~Nathan@ool-457e5cbd.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] | 04:30 | |
| -!- sylph_mako [~mako@22.67.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] | 04:39 | |
| -!- audy [~audy@heyaudy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] | 04:45 | |
| -!- audy- [~audy@heyaudy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 04:46 | |
| -!- Thorbinator [~Thorbinat@c-67-166-146-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 05:05 | |
| -!- yesminister [~mariner@adsl-75-51-190-28.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 05:22 | |
| -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 05:32 | |
| -!- wazzrob [~userid@c-24-61-126-211.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 05:33 | |
| -!- ParahSailin_ [~parah@adsl-69-151-155-160.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 05:44 | |
| -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] | 06:04 | |
| -!- wazzrob [~userid@c-24-61-126-211.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 06:20 | |
| -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 06:47 | |
| -!- ParahSailin_ [~parah@adsl-69-151-155-160.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] | 07:15 | |
| -!- azonenberg [~azonenber@2001:470:888b:2:206:70ff:fe01:46] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 07:22 | |
| -!- yashterdam [~fff@a83-163-200-130.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 07:47 | |
| -!- Jaakko96 [~Jaakko@109.144.146.92] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 08:01 | |
| -!- rmcl [~rmcl@99-71-136-35.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 08:02 | |
| -!- Jaakko96 [~Jaakko@109.144.146.92] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] | 08:05 | |
| -!- audy- is now known as audy | 08:11 | |
| -!- rmcl [~rmcl@99-71-136-35.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: rmcl] | 08:18 | |
| kanzure | "Mr. Harbisson’s current eyeborg is pressed against the base of his head with extremely high pressure, which allows the sounds to reverberate along his skull to his eardrums. But his new eyeborg, to be implanted in September, will be connected to his body through three screws in his head — two to support the antenna and electronic chip, and a third for the sound to be passed into his skull, which will vibrate with the sound. He expects it will | 08:18 |
| kanzure | "a surgical implant for seeing colors through sound" | 08:18 |
| kanzure | http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/02/a-surgical-implant-for-seeing-colors-through-sound/ | 08:19 |
| archels | kanzure: What paper database software do you use? | 08:21 |
| kanzure | "Two years ago, Jacob (then 3) and I built his first computer together. I installed Debian on it, but never put a GUI on the thing. It’s command-line, and has provided lots of enjoyment off and on over the last couple of years. […]" | 08:21 |
| kanzure | "The looks of shock I get from people when I explain, as if it’s perfectly natural, that my child has been able to log in by himself to a Linux shell since age 3, are amusing and astounding. Especially considering that it is really not that hard. Instead of learning how to run an Xbox, he’s learned how to run bash. I like that. […]" | 08:21 |
| kanzure | "At bedtime, Jacob asked me, very seriously: “Dad, how do I start tuxpaint again?” “First you log in and type startx. Then you can use the mouse.” Jacob nods, a contemplative look on his face.. “Then,” I continue, “you type tuxpaint in the terminal, and it comes right up.”" | 08:21 |
| kanzure | "Jacob nodded very seriously a second time, as if committing this very important information to long-term memory." | 08:21 |
| kanzure | archels: just my memory | 08:21 |
| kanzure | archels: some people like mendeley and their proprietaryness | 08:22 |
| archels | no, I would want something that I could run on my local PC (including something web-based) | 08:22 |
| kanzure | mendeley :( | 08:22 |
| archels | but Mendeley's servers are not exactly 127.0.0.1... | 08:23 |
| kanzure | who cares about their servers? | 08:23 |
| kanzure | they have some local software thing | 08:23 |
| archels | It's a local app too? | 08:23 |
| kanzure | that's their primary attraction | 08:23 |
| kanzure | yes | 08:23 |
| kanzure | otherwise nobody would give a fuck | 08:24 |
| archels | Does your suggesting Mendeley imply that you actually used it and liked it? | 08:24 |
| kanzure | i used it and hated it, but in terms of local clients that's all i can think to recommend | 08:24 |
| archels | great :( | 08:25 |
| kanzure | zotero might be worth your time, but it's firefox-only | 08:25 |
| kanzure | endnote probably has a related product, but it's also probably proprietary beyond belief | 08:25 |
| kanzure | http://alternativeto.net/software/mendeley/ | 08:26 |
| kanzure | hah, kbibtex | 08:26 |
| kanzure | zotero has some really nice scrapers to turn any academic publisher's abstract page into a full .bib reference | 08:27 |
| kanzure | they are regularly updated when they break | 08:27 |
| kanzure | actually i wonder if zotero has a chrome version these days.. hrm. | 08:28 |
| kanzure | http://www.zotero.org/blog/zotero-standalone-alpha-with-chrome-and-safari-support/ | 08:28 |
| kanzure | http://www.zotero.org/support/3.0 | 08:29 |
| kanzure | ok try that | 08:29 |
| archels | Maybe what I really want is a database filesystem with tagging options (as some apps on that list more or less do). | 08:34 |
| kanzure | yeah i'm still annoyed about where's my tagging system, it's 2012 already ffs etc etc | 08:40 |
| kanzure | *tagging file system | 08:40 |
| -!- OldCoder_ [~OldCoder_@c-69-181-140-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] | 08:42 | |
| Sanky | I keep thinking about that | 08:49 |
| kanzure | archels: i'm open to ideas for organizing http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/ better | 08:54 |
| kanzure | i tend to take lots of notes, but i've dumped those into git://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki.git recently | 08:55 |
| kanzure | for instance, it would be nice if i had a better way of exposing all my notes on the shit in http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/longevity | 08:55 |
| -!- splicer [~ubuntu@c83-255-190-140.bredband.comhem.se] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 09:02 | |
| -!- OldCoder_ [~OldCoder_@c-69-181-140-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 09:15 | |
| -!- Proteus [~Proteus@unaffiliated/proteus] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] | 10:25 | |
| kanzure | austin would be a lot cooler if the hackerspace would make an actual bat signal | 10:54 |
| kanzure | and turn it on when there's a hackerspace meeting or something | 10:55 |
| kanzure | thanks to weather forecasts this can actually be timed correctly, but noooo | 10:55 |
| -!- Cat4D [182bc9d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.43.201.210] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 11:17 | |
| -!- rmcl [~rmcl@ip68-7-70-210.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 11:18 | |
| AdrianG_ | "Every facet, every department of your mind, is to be programmed by you; and unless you assume your rightful responsibility, and begin to program your own mind, the world will program it for you." | 11:29 |
| -!- AdrianG_ is now known as AdrianG | 11:30 | |
| -!- nmz787 [~Nathan@ool-457e5cbd.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 11:53 | |
| -!- Cat4D_ [182bc9d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.43.201.210] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 12:04 | |
| -!- Cat4D [182bc9d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.43.201.210] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] | 12:08 | |
| -!- phryk [~phryk@static.39.216.9.176.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] | 12:11 | |
| -!- phryk [~phryk@static.39.216.9.176.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 12:13 | |
| -!- augur_ [~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 12:15 | |
| -!- augur [~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 12:15 | |
| -!- augur [~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 12:22 | |
| -!- augur [~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 12:23 | |
| kanzure | nmz787: in portland? | 12:25 |
| -!- nmz787 [~Nathan@ool-457e5cbd.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] | 12:26 | |
| -!- yashterdam [~fff@a83-163-200-130.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] | 12:36 | |
| -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] | 13:10 | |
| -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 13:11 | |
| kanzure | "Phandroid's AndroidForums.com has been hacked. The database that powers the site was compromised and more than 1 million user account details were stolen." | 13:17 |
| kanzure | oh, no public dump | 13:18 |
| -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] | 13:21 | |
| AdrianG | dumped yet? | 13:24 |
| -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 13:24 | |
| kanzure | no it just sounds like someone did a drive-by | 13:27 |
| kanzure | very disappointing. | 13:27 |
| AdrianG | i never use real details on any forums. | 13:28 |
| AdrianG | throw-away email, useless password i dont use anywhere else | 13:28 |
| -!- rmcl [~rmcl@ip68-7-70-210.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: rmcl] | 13:31 | |
| Mariu | drive-by, lol | 13:37 |
| Mariu | =p | 13:38 |
| -!- sylph_mako [~mako@22.67.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 13:41 | |
| -!- Steel2 [ad42e490@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.66.228.144] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 13:52 | |
| -!- Steel2 [ad42e490@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.66.228.144] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] | 13:57 | |
| -!- Steel2 [ad42e490@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.66.228.144] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 14:00 | |
| -!- wizzra [~userid@c-24-61-126-211.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 14:09 | |
| kanzure | wizzra: hi | 14:12 |
| -!- Cat4D_ [182bc9d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.43.201.210] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] | 14:25 | |
| -!- kvltist [~Kvltist@p5B1579C7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 14:39 | |
| -!- Mariu [Jimmy98@89.41.57.33] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] | 15:12 | |
| Steel2 | kanzure, do you have that list of Pearce's domain names? | 15:25 |
| -!- rmcl [~rmcl@wsip-174-79-240-73.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 15:25 | |
| kanzure | Steel2: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/david-pearce-domains.url.txt | 15:36 |
| Steel2 | wonder how much he'd charge for some of those | 15:36 |
| kanzure | his policy seems to be "let people use them for free but i get to keep ownership" | 15:36 |
| Steel2 | bleh, not safe for branding | 15:38 |
| kanzure | not if your brand is worthless! that's humanityplus.org's strategy. | 15:38 |
| kanzure | (transhumanism.org was always owned by david pearce, even during the world transhumanist association's occupation of the domain) | 15:39 |
| Steel2 | humanityprime is open :V | 15:40 |
| kanzure | the first thing that comes to my mind is "startling irrelevance" | 15:41 |
| Steel2 | pretty much every domain name does that, but I need something that works with me and isn't terrible | 15:41 |
| -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] | 15:55 | |
| -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 15:58 | |
| AdrianG | lol david pearce is popular here? | 16:02 |
| AdrianG | holy shit this guy has a million domain names | 16:02 |
| kanzure | no he's not popular | 16:04 |
| kanzure | i tend to dislike him | 16:05 |
| Steel2 | I like talking to him | 16:05 |
| Steel2 | but he's not ultra useful | 16:05 |
| kanzure | his pacificst insight hasn't given him the clearvoiyance required to construct this ultimate battle station | 16:05 |
| kanzure | erm, wait, i definitely screwed up that line | 16:05 |
| kanzure | "Your sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you conjure up the stolen data tapes, or given you clairvoyance enough to find the rebels' hidden fortress." | 16:06 |
| kanzure | ahh data tapes | 16:07 |
| -!- ParahSailin [~eg@unaffiliated/parahsailin] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 16:08 | |
| -!- ParahSailin [~eg@building.houstontech.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 16:09 | |
| -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] | 16:11 | |
| -!- sylph_mako [~mako@22.67.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] | 16:11 | |
| AdrianG | Steel2: how can u talk to him | 16:12 |
| AdrianG | you email him or he ircs on freenode lol? | 16:12 |
| Steel2 | 16:12 | |
| AdrianG | oic | 16:13 |
| AdrianG | why does he not irc | 16:13 |
| AdrianG | sick bastard | 16:13 |
| Steel2 | who would he irc with? | 16:13 |
| AdrianG | ive only read his psychopharmacology graphomania. | 16:13 |
| Steel2 | all of his generation of H+ers don't | 16:13 |
| AdrianG | Steel2: wit aspies | 16:13 |
| AdrianG | liak him | 16:13 |
| Steel2 | I have no idea what you're trying to say | 16:14 |
| AdrianG | me neither | 16:14 |
| AdrianG | im just hitting random keys to see if it would make a meaningful sentence | 16:14 |
| AdrianG | i am surprised we've gone this far | 16:15 |
| kanzure | "I also think that China should admit it has 1.8 billion people, and not pretend that it has 1.399 billion, just so that, if it wants to kill 400 million people, in addition to all those Falun Gong it's been using as an organ farm, it doesn't have to make as many excuses." | 16:15 |
| kanzure | haha what | 16:16 |
| -!- sylph_mako [~mako@22.67.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 16:18 | |
| -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 16:18 | |
| -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Client Quit] | 16:21 | |
| -!- Cat4D [182bc9d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.43.201.210] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 16:24 | |
| kanzure | markdown editor in javascript http://oscargodson.github.com/EpicEditor/ | 16:35 |
| Sanky | neato, though I'm still not sure if I'm entirely happy with markdown | 16:37 |
| -!- rmcl [~rmcl@wsip-174-79-240-73.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: rmcl] | 16:37 | |
| Sanky | I should look up and compare alternatives | 16:37 |
| kanzure | how about html. | 16:38 |
| Sanky | gee, I dunno | 16:38 |
| Sanky | well, /i/ don't mind writing html manually as much as most people seem to, but that's for one offs | 16:39 |
| -!- rmcl [~rmcl@ip68-7-70-210.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 17:00 | |
| kanzure | b=32>c||122<c?b+"~":b+String.fromCharCode(c) | 17:01 |
| kanzure | so let's see. i thought this would be if 32 <= c <= 122 then b+=String.fromCharCode(c) but it seems to not work out this way | 17:01 |
| Sanky | note to self: trying to runn chromium with a profile accessed with sftp over a 20kbps connection isn't very bright | 17:03 |
| kanzure | if ((c < 32) || (c > 122)) { b += "~" } seems to be a more sensible way to write that | 17:03 |
| kanzure | a = /(https?:\/\/[^:]+)/gi.exec(b); | 17:21 |
| kanzure | lessee.. what is the [^:]+ doing here? | 17:21 |
| -!- Cat4D [182bc9d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.43.201.210] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] | 17:22 | |
| kanzure | it seems to be splitting until the next ":" character (but in context this doesn't make sense) | 17:26 |
| -!- HEx1 [~HEx@212.159.112.196] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] | 17:30 | |
| -!- HEx1 [~HEx@212.159.112.196] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 17:44 | |
| -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-52-179-0.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 17:47 | |
| eudoxia | so this david pearce fellow sure has a lot of domain names | 17:48 |
| kanzure | he runs a web hosting company | 17:50 |
| eudoxia | so has his BLTC thingee done anything? | 17:51 |
| -!- strages_home [~strages@adsl-98-67-167-95.shv.bellsouth.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 17:58 | |
| AdrianG | yes. | 18:00 |
| -!- phryk [~phryk@static.39.216.9.176.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 18:05 | |
| -!- upgrayeddd [u2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qhzeckcckrbmqgmb] has quit [Excess Flood] | 18:05 | |
| -!- phryk [~phryk@static.39.216.9.176.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 18:06 | |
| -!- upgrayeddd [u2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hycessezbjaagqql] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 18:07 | |
| kanzure | hrmm so i talked with this guy http://www.in10did.com/ who seems to be doing a chorded keyboard | 18:10 |
| kanzure | 10 keys, 30 wpm.. dunno if that helps or hurts things | 18:10 |
| kanzure | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1780168636/mobile-touch-typing-with-a-simple-chord-keyboard | 18:10 |
| kanzure | mitch seems to be $36k short on http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/maltman23/neurodreamer-sleep-mask-0?ref=history | 18:12 |
| kanzure | "An average professional typist reaches 50 to 80 wpm, while some positions can require 80 to 95 wpm (usually the minimum required for dispatch positions and other typing jobs), and some advanced typists work at speeds above 120 wpm.[4][5] " | 18:23 |
| kanzure | so if an "average professional typist" types 80 wpm, does that make me a double professional? | 18:24 |
| -!- Cat4D [182bc9d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.43.201.210] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 18:24 | |
| -!- Tukotih [~Tukotih@81-231-85-111-no39.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] | 18:27 | |
| brownies | kanzure: i'm slowly getting addicted to typeracer.com =/ | 18:36 |
| kanzure | your arms will thank me | 18:37 |
| kanzure | s/thank/hate | 18:37 |
| brownies | indeed | 18:38 |
| brownies | i seem to be stuck at a sad 130wpm =( | 18:38 |
| kanzure | is that an average or a max | 18:39 |
| AdrianG | how fast do u type kaz | 18:44 |
| AdrianG | kanzure: | 18:44 |
| kanzure | AdrianG: http://www.seanwrona.com/typeracer/profile.php?username=kanzure | 18:44 |
| AdrianG | :o | 18:44 |
| AdrianG | zomg rly | 18:44 |
| AdrianG | well...not quite 200 bpm... | 18:45 |
| AdrianG | but close | 18:45 |
| -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Guest44728, yesminister, Urchin, lichen, Mokbortolan_ | 18:56 | |
| brownies | kanzure: averaged out | 18:59 |
| brownies | maxed at 160ish | 18:59 |
| brownies | but i only made an account today, so we'll see | 18:59 |
| -!- Netsplit over, joins: yesminister, lichen, Mokbortolan_, Urchin, Guest44728 | 19:15 | |
| -!- rmcl [~rmcl@ip68-7-70-210.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: rmcl] | 19:15 | |
| -!- Lemminkainen [u2346@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ilsmrofveimodtmc] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 19:29 | |
| kanzure | hi Lemminkainen | 19:30 |
| -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-52-179-0.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] | 19:31 | |
| -!- rmcl [~rmcl@ip68-7-70-210.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 19:31 | |
| -!- Tukotih [~Tukotih@81-231-85-111-no39.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 19:34 | |
| kanzure | lichen: nmz787 is in your area for the next day or something | 19:35 |
| Mokbortolan_ | he needs to go to robotaco | 19:42 |
| -!- rmcl [~rmcl@ip68-7-70-210.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: rmcl] | 19:49 | |
| AdrianG | wat is dat | 19:50 |
| AdrianG | Mokbortolan_: r u the founder of nootropics chat | 19:50 |
| Lemminkainen | hi hanzure | 19:52 |
| kanzure | http://jsbeautifer.org/ to the rescue | 19:56 |
| Lemminkainen | I prefer https://github.com/mattdiamond/fuckitjs/ | 20:03 |
| -!- ParahSailin_ [~parah@adsl-69-151-154-248.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 20:05 | |
| -!- Cat4D [182bc9d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.43.201.210] has quit [Quit: Page closed] | 20:23 | |
| Mokbortolan_ | AdrianG: yep | 20:25 |
| Mokbortolan_ | anybody know where I can get 2-3" metal gears with lots of little teeth? | 20:32 |
| -!- wizzra [~userid@c-24-61-126-211.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has left ##hplusroadmap [] | 20:55 | |
| AdrianG | have a few guys from linuxcnc cut them for you | 21:15 |
| AdrianG | what metal do you need, specs? | 21:15 |
| ParahSailin_ | mithril? | 21:18 |
| -!- AdrianG [~ircname@unaffiliated/amphetamine] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 21:20 | |
| -!- AdrianG [~ircname@unaffiliated/amphetamine] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 21:20 | |
| -!- AdrianG [~ircname@unaffiliated/amphetamine] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 21:22 | |
| -!- AdrianG_ [~ircname@unaffiliated/amphetamine] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 21:22 | |
| AdrianG_ | oh nootropics too eh | 21:23 |
| AdrianG_ | whats this chat stance on methamphetamine use for productivity | 21:23 |
| -!- AdrianG_ is now known as AdrianG | 21:23 | |
| ParahSailin_ | regular amphetamine is adequate | 21:26 |
| ParahSailin_ | meth is just a bit much | 21:26 |
| kanzure | i haven't heard from a meth user on that topic yet | 21:29 |
| kanzure | off to erowid! | 21:30 |
| ParahSailin_ | its my understanding that methamphetamine is simply more potent | 21:31 |
| kanzure | http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.cgi?S1=37&S2=-1&C1=-1&Str= | 21:32 |
| AdrianG | ParahSailin_: you are wrong | 21:41 |
| AdrianG | methamphetamine is more potent on mg/mg because it penetrates BBB better. | 21:41 |
| AdrianG | and you can achieve better CSF levels with lower doses, so fewer peripheral effects. | 21:41 |
| AdrianG | lol wow so many reports | 21:42 |
| AdrianG | http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=15361 | 21:42 |
| kanzure | ParahSailin_: i guess day 4 here http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=26181 | 21:43 |
| AdrianG | lol staying up 4 days | 21:44 |
| AdrianG | wat a retard | 21:44 |
| AdrianG | in conclusion: meth fo lyfe | 21:44 |
| AdrianG | anyway, anyone figured out a cheap way to synth nootropics yet | 21:45 |
| kanzure | here's one on desoxyn as an adderall replacement http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=15361 | 21:46 |
| AdrianG | desoxyn > adderall | 21:46 |
| AdrianG | in every way imaginable | 21:46 |
| AdrianG | the only reason its not scripted is because of the stigma | 21:46 |
| AdrianG | and they dont make graduments anymore :< | 21:47 |
| AdrianG | http://addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=bd8e790de8eba41d39b57ccb938a4312&t=113344 | 21:48 |
| AdrianG | This stuff comes in a sealed bottle. The pharmacist wrote "METH" on the lid with a sharpie. Too funny! | 21:48 |
| AdrianG | i lol'd | 21:48 |
| kanzure | "It's still $100 for a 100 5 mg." man that's cheaper than what i'm getting. | 21:50 |
| kanzure | oops, nope. "The price for generic in Southern California ranges between $320 and $380, while the Desoxyn brand costs between $490 to $545 (100 tablets)." | 21:50 |
| kanzure | i bet it would be cheaper to do a synthesis startup than that | 21:51 |
| kanzure | "All you want is something that makes a day feel like a DAY, like where you think up stuff and then actually do that stuff, and develop TASKS that extend and get finished in the coming weeks and months...." | 21:52 |
| kanzure | haha | 21:53 |
| AdrianG | once a pharmacist told me "have a nice trip" and chuckled | 22:10 |
| AdrianG | yes desoxyn prices are retarded. | 22:10 |
| AdrianG | its much easier to buy street meth srsly | 22:10 |
| kanzure | ah so you're prescribed it? | 22:10 |
| AdrianG | is it legal to buy street meth if you have a prescription? | 22:10 |
| AdrianG | kanzure: used to, but i live in canada now, we dont have pharma meth :< | 22:11 |
| AdrianG | technically can be imported, but its a headache and a half | 22:11 |
| kanzure | i'm not entirely sure what happens if you put your drugs in a standard container and print out your own label | 22:11 |
| kanzure | if you have a prescription, and you have something that looks "official", it's not as questionable i guess | 22:11 |
| AdrianG | posession would be entirely legal, you are prescribed | 22:11 |
| AdrianG | actually in canada nobody is going to give two fucks about your personal use | 22:12 |
| -!- OldCoder_ [~OldCoder_@c-69-181-140-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] | 22:12 | |
| kanzure | "Prescription fraud and forgery" | 22:13 |
| -!- OldCoder_ [~OldCoder_@c-69-181-140-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 22:13 | |
| AdrianG | why? | 22:13 |
| AdrianG | you didnt forge anything | 22:13 |
| AdrianG | you just gave your rx slip to a street pharmacist lol | 22:14 |
| AdrianG | lol | 22:14 |
| AdrianG | wouldnt it be hilarious to give a dealer your prescription | 22:14 |
| AdrianG | its a theoretical concern. too dangerous in the US i'd guess | 22:14 |
| kanzure | no i mean that they would probably claim prescription fraud (not having your prescription fulfilled by an authorized institution) | 22:14 |
| kanzure | see, when your doc writes a prescription, a copy goes to the state | 22:14 |
| kanzure | some state enforcement agency | 22:14 |
| kanzure | and if the pharmacy doesn't transmit back the other copy, blah blah blah | 22:15 |
| AdrianG | oh right | 22:15 |
| AdrianG | the US has triplicate scripts for that lol | 22:15 |
| AdrianG | and they cant be phoned in | 22:15 |
| kanzure | oh i see "Presenting a forged prescription constitutes the crime of prescription fraud" | 22:15 |
| AdrianG | i just had dexamp phoned in last week | 22:15 |
| AdrianG | take that america | 22:16 |
| kanzure | oh man, oxygen is by prescription only? | 22:17 |
| AdrianG | yep | 22:17 |
| AdrianG | we are all violating it right now lol | 22:17 |
| AdrianG | your own hormones are only by rx. | 22:18 |
| AdrianG | zomg somebody notify the HPTA axis quick | 22:18 |
| AdrianG | its retarded. | 22:18 |
| -!- ParahSailin_ [~parah@adsl-69-151-154-248.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] | 22:21 | |
| -!- Cat4D [182bc9d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.43.201.210] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 22:37 | |
| -!- AdrianG [~ircname@unaffiliated/amphetamine] has quit [] | 22:50 | |
| -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-200-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 22:56 | |
| -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-200-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 22:57 | |
| -!- AdrianG [~ircname@unaffiliated/amphetamine] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 23:05 | |
| AdrianG | ok junkies | 23:05 |
| AdrianG | i r baq | 23:05 |
| AdrianG | is anyone following histogen? | 23:16 |
| AdrianG | http://www.histogen.com/applications/hsc.htm | 23:16 |
| kanzure | "Changing lives... for our own amusement" | 23:17 |
| kanzure | alright then | 23:17 |
| AdrianG | wat | 23:23 |
| -!- Cat4D [182bc9d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.43.201.210] has quit [Quit: Page closed] | 23:36 | |
| Lemminkainen | AdrianG: what's your interest there? | 23:36 |
| AdrianG | they are growing body parts, in a way | 23:36 |
| kanzure | uhuh | 23:37 |
| AdrianG | or stimulate your body to grow its own. | 23:37 |
| AdrianG | an interesting approach | 23:37 |
| kanzure | <troll>they should use jmil's tissue printer</troll> | 23:37 |
| Lemminkainen | kanzure aight then | 23:39 |
| Lemminkainen | how would you do better? | 23:39 |
| kanzure | well, for one, by working on open source hardware and reprap you are accelerating the availability of hardware to other developers | 23:40 |
| kanzure | so, i think that is inherently better | 23:40 |
| kanzure | unless you found that a fault of his work | 23:40 |
| Lemminkainen | kanzure I mean wrt Histogen | 23:41 |
| kanzure | oh, i don't know them yet | 23:41 |
| kanzure | haven't met those guys | 23:41 |
| Lemminkainen | regardless, to hope that biotech will be open-source going forward is quite a fool's errand | 23:42 |
| kanzure | i believe i said nothing about hope | 23:43 |
| kanzure | but i will also readily admit that i am a great fool, perhaps the biggest | 23:43 |
| kanzure | Lemminkainen: who are you? | 23:44 |
| Lemminkainen | I am Lemminkainen | 23:44 |
| Lemminkainen | professional bastard | 23:44 |
| kanzure | software person? biologist? | 23:44 |
| Lemminkainen | formally educated in biotech with a focus on immunology | 23:44 |
| Lemminkainen | but I build robots and servers to buy food | 23:44 |
| kanzure | cool | 23:45 |
| kanzure | i need sleep, but perhaps i can distract you with http://github.com/kanzure/nanoengineer#readme or something | 23:45 |
| * kanzure sleeps | 23:45 | |
| --- Log closed Fri Jul 13 00:00:07 2012 | ||
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.15.0.dev0 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!