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| rdb | understandable | 00:00 |
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| * rdb keeps his murder-all-people theory to himself, then. | 00:02 | |
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| kanzure | beep boop | 02:30 |
| archels | kanzure: a big-name blogger apparently removed one of my comments to a post where he ditched mind uploading. | 02:59 |
| archels | I'm debating presently whether to send him a polite e-mail or just to forget the whole thing | 02:59 |
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| eudoxia | archels: that pz myers guy? | 06:57 |
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| archels | yes, Pharyngula | 07:23 |
| archels | I don't really give two bits about him or his site, but I would like to hear others' thoughts on this, and you can't really have a discussion if people remove your posts. | 07:25 |
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| kanzure | archels: you should just post your comments on that hacker news thread, or something | 08:18 |
| archels | ah, nod | 08:20 |
| archels | ergh, sucks that discussion is so fragmented... threads about this seem to've sprung up all over the internets. | 08:22 |
| eudoxia | aww he even deleted the Randal Koene comment | 08:26 |
| archels | ... the heck | 08:26 |
| eudoxia | the myers guy deleted a comment by Koene | 08:27 |
| archels | indeed | 08:27 |
| archels | I can't fathom what he might've considered wrong with that?! | 08:27 |
| eudoxia | it wasn't even a pro-WBE comment, he even praised the dude for "bringing in some realism" | 08:28 |
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| kanzure | haha koene is like the only guy who might be qualified to comment | 08:35 |
| kanzure | nice | 08:35 |
| kanzure | http://hackaday.com/2009/09/22/photographic-key-duplication/ | 08:37 |
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| kanzure | just pushin' some things.. | 10:22 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/liato/android-market-api-py/pull/4 | 10:22 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/antitree/AxmlParserPY/pull/3 | 10:22 |
| kanzure | i need a rate limit taster that can reliably figure out what the rate limiting rules are of some remote service | 10:29 |
| kanzure | and ideally figure it out in the least number of steps | 10:29 |
| kanzure | sometimes rate limiting happens by default- like some max throughput- but other times services kick it in after N requests/minute or some other variable | 10:30 |
| kanzure | when a limit kicks in, it is sometimes lifted after a certain amount of time | 10:30 |
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| kanzure | and sometimes this is an hour, a week, etc., and it's hard to consistently remember what the last limit taste was (did i try 10 requests/min last week, or 100 requests/min?) | 10:31 |
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| nmz787 | kanzure: the 'toilet blaster' video is a water jet replacement for toilet paper | 10:32 |
| kanzure | most of the time i start scraping at full speed or "maximum" or whatever that happens to be, but a ramp-up might be better (start at 10/min, then 100/min, then 1000/min).. it will take longer, but then you'll know the maximum near which you are rate limited, instead of having to randomly guess if you are rate limited when you run at maximum immediately | 10:32 |
| nmz787 | are you talking in general or for the elsevier thing? | 10:33 |
| kanzure | just in general, really | 10:33 |
| kanzure | there are many situations i run into where i might conceivably get rate limited, or sometimes i do actually get rate limited | 10:33 |
| kanzure | realistically i could just increase the number of ip addresses that i am scraping from | 10:34 |
| kanzure | but why not maximize each ip address' scraping, up to the rate limit? | 10:34 |
| nmz787 | anyone in here from the D.C./Virginia area? That's where I am now | 10:37 |
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| kanzure | nmz787: if you're near warsaw, virginia then i recommend meeting Inigo Howlett <inigowalkerhowlett@gmail.com> from diybio | 10:39 |
| kanzure | there's also the hacdc people | 10:39 |
| kanzure | oh the http://keyglove.net/ person should be nearby.. hrm. | 10:40 |
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| nmz787 | 2.5 hrs away from warsaw... too far i think unless he has a really enticing setup or something cool | 10:41 |
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| kanzure | honestly i have no idea | 10:41 |
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| kanzure | heh google is returning me both "anti scraping" links and "rate limiting steps in dna synthesis" results for my queries. i guess it's fairly accurate for what i might be looking for. | 10:45 |
| nmz787 | lol | 10:46 |
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| kanzure | hrmm http://code.google.com/p/androguard/wiki/DatabaseAndroidMalwares | 10:57 |
| kanzure | http://contagiominidump.blogspot.com/ | 10:59 |
| kanzure | 164 MB zip of various android malware http://www.mediafire.com/file/1ch8uzgd9evcawb/Android-Malware_SortedTYPE-MD5.zip (password is probably "infected") | 11:01 |
| kanzure | seems to include basebridge, yzhc, pjapps, geinimi, kmin | 11:01 |
| kanzure | some reverse engineering notes http://www.slideshare.net/JaimeBlasco/wtf-is-happeninginsidemyandroidphonepublic | 11:03 |
| nmz787 | i wish the apps had a description of what they did | 11:04 |
| kanzure | well that presentation shows what one of the apps is doing (proxy-relaying http requests to some server in china) | 11:11 |
| kanzure | and then they exploited that remote chinese server to get their database dump or something | 11:11 |
| nmz787 | I didn't know antivirus apps existed for android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aegislab.sd3prj.antivirus.free | 11:11 |
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| nmz787 | i really don't want to run an antivirus prog on my phone | 11:11 |
| yashterdam | the future! | 11:12 |
| kanzure | i don't know how legit the android antivirus software is | 11:12 |
| nmz787 | it already heats up with something like facebook logged in, which causes my battery to drain pretty damn fast | 11:12 |
| kanzure | i know it's generally a good idea to scan untrusted files, but again i'm not sure if it's scareware or not | 11:12 |
| nmz787 | scan as in, run in VM? | 11:16 |
| kanzure | no, there are some programs that will check a file for known signatures when you ask it to | 11:19 |
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| nmz787 | kanzure: I think we should get jblake from the oftc room to give a webinar about wavelets, where they came from, how to think about them, when and where to use them.... i'm specifically interested in using them to denoise random noise from signals | 12:25 |
| kanzure | the problem with this plan is that jblake is possibly lazier than i am | 12:28 |
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| jrayhawk | kanzure: I don't recall messing with mime types; possibly a debian upgrade replaced 'em. | 14:29 |
| kanzure | hrm.. | 14:30 |
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| Steel2 | how goes all? | 15:00 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | meh | 15:00 |
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| Steel2 | not supermeh? | 15:08 |
| Steel2 | try harder :P | 15:08 |
| Steel2 | hi lichen, what's up? | 15:08 |
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| kanzure | virtualenv+virtualenvwrapper sounds like a possibly good idea | 16:41 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/brainsik/virtualenv-burrito | 16:41 |
| kanzure | until this part: "If you have a sophisticated shell environment or customized install scripts, you may want to prevent the install script (virtualenv-burrito.sh) from modifying your dot profile." | 16:41 |
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| * kanzure watches http://mathematism.com/2009/07/30/presentation-pip-and-virtualenv/ | 16:51 | |
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| kanzure | man why is that a video | 16:54 |
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| kanzure | whenever i want to actually watch a video that might actually be relevant it turns out to be less dense than runny eggs | 16:55 |
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| kanzure | "Years and years ago, when the earth was new, I was an undergrad at MIT and then-Media-Lab-graduate-student Mann spoke in a class I was taking. At the time, I believe he was trying to recruit people to do heavy-duty graphics work (i.e. when he moves his head side to side, his camera is taking discrete pictures of a room/building/whatever at different angles. He was working on algorithms to put them all together and make them coherent)" | 17:28 |
| kanzure | "Anyhow, the point is, I distinctly remember him saying that he got nauseous when he removed his visor. The reason was very simple. He spent all of his waking life (outside of the shower) in a 2D world. His body was so used to it, that living in 3D took some serious getting used to, and he would feel sick." | 17:28 |
| kanzure | git troubleshooting flowchart http://justinhileman.info/article/git-pretty/git-pretty.png | 17:35 |
| kanzure | not sure why a rebase is in the "dangerzone" | 17:37 |
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| kanzure | http://www.doughellmann.com/docs/virtualenvwrapper/plugins.html#plugins | 18:04 |
| kanzure | "Use the hooks provided to eliminate repetitive manual operations and streamline your development workflow. For example, set up the pre_activate and post_activate hooks to trigger an IDE to load a project file to reload files from the last editing session, manage time-tracking records, or start and stop development versions of an application server." | 18:04 |
| kanzure | well, shit. | 18:04 |
| n_bentha | shiiii | 18:10 |
| kanzure | oh hm https://github.com/github/gitignore | 18:43 |
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| kanzure | https://github.com/kennethreitz/autoenv | 19:05 |
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| kanzure | http://andrewbrookins.com/tech/instant-django-dev-environments-with-tmux-tmuxinator-and-virtualenvwrapper/ | 19:53 |
| kanzure | he should use heroku-django-template.git and laugh all the way to the bank. | 19:54 |
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| audy | kanzure in heroku, bank laughs at you | 20:11 |
| audy | kanzure or, laugh all the way to the bank to withdraw all his funds… / | 20:11 |
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| * nsh tries to remember seeing anyone discuss nootropics in here | 20:27 | |
| kanzure | it's only been like a day, geeze | 20:28 |
| nsh | what has? | 20:28 |
| kanzure | since someone mentioned nootropics | 20:28 |
| nsh | ah, then perhaps i'm watching at the wrong times :) | 20:29 |
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| nsh | (i'm not sure i'd class estradiol as a nootropic) | 20:38 |
| kanzure | pfft maybe it was the day before, then | 20:48 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: wish i would have tried tmux sooner | 20:51 |
| nsh | better than screen? | 20:53 |
| kanzure | it seems to be generally more consistent with itself, if that makes sense | 20:53 |
| * nsh nods | 20:53 | |
| nsh | hm | 21:00 |
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