2012-07-21.log

--- Log opened Sat Jul 21 00:00:15 2012
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Sanquilogs of this channel are public?00:16
JayDuggerYes, at http://gnusha.org/logs/.00:21
Sanquihas somebody megahalized them yet00:24
JayDuggerWith whom do you think you converse?00:24
Sanquitouché00:25
JayDuggerReal humans lie fast asleep. We chatbots lie in their place.00:25
Sanquiseems like a step up from megahal to me00:26
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JayDuggerHoly crap! I'm the human? When did that happen?00:28
Sanquigo back to sleep00:29
JayDuggerOk, I will go back to sleep. Bye-bye.00:30
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BurninateWould-be cyborgs, inventors, start your engines: http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/abrash/why-you-wont-see-hard-ar-anytime-soon/02:32
Burninatealso, digital life: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/21/science/in-a-first-an-entire-organism-is-simulated-by-software.html?_r=1&hp02:34
sylph_makoBurninate, I wouldn't fund hard ar, ostensibly, I will /always/ want to see reality unfiltered.02:47
BurninateI give it five years of Princess Leia Hologram communication and you'll break02:49
BurninateI'm still not quite sure I understand the model for how focusing is supposed to work with 'soft AR'02:50
sylph_makoI've just obsessed over Virtual Retina Displays, as far as I know they actively monitor the eye's lens?02:51
sylph_makoThe other day I realized those ugly colored blotches that sometimes manifest to the side of my fovea were my blind spots. What was happening was the action of the system that filters them out of awareness was being delayed, often happens after physical exertion. Recently I think I've had less and less of my nervous system's limitations hidden from me, and I accepted this new revelation as happily as I accepted the awareness of t02:55
sylph_makohe narrow bandwidth of my sense of touch.02:55
ThomasEgisylph_mako, unfiltered reality?... i'd love to filter out 99% of all idiots soaring around in reality and replace them by.. i dunno, toasters or so.02:55
sylph_makoUgly reality is best reality.02:55
sylph_makoBecause it is the only reality.02:55
ThomasEgireality is just your personal preception of "reality"02:55
BurninateDo VRD's require a pair of rapidly spinning mirror wheels for projection?02:56
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Burninatesylph_mako, the WP article on blind spot has a good test image02:57
sylph_makoBurninate, I'll have to refer to it next time the filtration fails and see if they line up.02:58
Burninate"Although the VRD is an output device, the technology lends itself to augmentation with eye tracking or eyegaze systems for input. Eye tracking is currently used in advanced still and video cameras for focusing on the object you wish to record."02:59
BurninateReally?02:59
sylph_makoholy awe.02:59
Burninatewow, that's accurate03:01
Burninatehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EOS#Eye-controlled_focusing03:01
Burninate2008: ""I have stated numerous times on the Web and at least twice in Tech Tips that it is obvious by now that the omission of ECF in EOS Digital SLRs is a marketing decision, not a technical issue. We get user requests for ECF from time to time, but to be blunt, customer demand so far has been insufficient to justify adding this feature. I'll never say never, but don't hold your breath on this one. " "03:02
sylph_makoOh. I thought it was measuring the focal distance of the eye lens or something.03:03
Burninateno, just line of gaze and maximize contrast on that area03:04
Burninateor something... phase AF is something I haven't penetrated yet03:05
sylph_makoUm. I feel it should be noted that you could get somewhat hard AR out of a soft ar device by putting a cowl on the outside of the glasses. Like darkening a room before using the projector.03:06
Burninateat the expense of essentially wearing sunglasses03:08
Burninateand darkening everything else03:08
Burninatemaybe if normal passthrough mode is (neutral density filter) -> (laser punch-up of natural colors), but if you can do that convincingly you could just to an opaque display03:09
Burninate*do03:09
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archelshttp://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/21/science/in-a-first-an-entire-organism-is-simulated-by-software.html?_r=108:12
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delinquentme^^^08:23
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delinquentmeOh man check who it is!08:54
delinquentmeklafka, I might be moving to inninois =X08:54
delinquentmeillinois  ** lol08:54
klafkaoh08:54
delinquentme( cant even spell the place )08:54
klafkaum why?08:54
delinquentmeurbana champagne needs a rails programmer with bio interest08:54
delinquentmegotta see about the payscale though08:55
klafkaaah08:55
klafkamy friend just moved here from UIUC08:55
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klafka1i'm pretty sure i just got a new job also delinquentme08:59
delinquentmeNICE09:00
delinquentmewhere?09:00
delinquentmedoing?09:00
klafka1in SF09:01
klafka1um to start with support and then transition to data science09:01
klafka1it was half way through the interview and they were like 'wouldn't you rather be a data scientist?'09:01
klafka1and i was like... yeah09:01
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delinquentmewinrar09:24
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kanzureno thanks09:27
delinquentmestinking multiple keybaords09:30
delinquentmekeyboards! hahah09:30
delinquentmeiii cannot wait to have cash to blow on roboots09:31
delinquentmeklafka1,  the job??09:36
klafka1yeah09:36
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klafka1hey someone get me this paper http://www.cell.com/abstract/S0092-8674%2812%2900776-3 please!11:18
kanzuredamn getting bossy... one sec11:21
kanzureklafka1: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bio/A%20Whole-Cell%20Computational%20Model%20Predicts%20Phenotype%20from%20Genotype.pdf11:23
klafka1lol11:23
klafka1oh woops11:23
klafka1i remember markus covert11:23
klafka1from palsson's lab11:23
klafka1i wonder if this is using LPs wiuth ODEs11:23
kanzureLPs?11:24
kanzureoh, linear programming11:24
kanzurebut the s threw me off11:24
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delinquentmeanyone happen to have the protocol on that kid who was playing with carbon nanotubes?18:54
delinquentmemaybe I should just start reading / playing with em18:54
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kanzureyou're only interested because of a recent news announcement? what about all that other easy graphene stuff..19:20
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kanzureso i'm thinking of sqlalchemy+flask for a project19:29
kanzuresomeone stop me? or why might this be a bad idea19:29
kanzuremongokit looks like an interesting contender though.19:30
kanzurethe problem with flask and quick_orm is that it litters your code with decorators everywhere19:34
kanzure@app.route("/reauth", methods=["GET", "POST"])19:34
kanzure@login_required19:34
kanzurebleh.19:34
browniessqlalchemy+flask is a solid combo20:01
browniesdoes flask have a devise-like plugin yet? i do so hate writing auth systems20:01
kanzureit has https://github.com/maxcountryman/flask-login20:02
kanzuredoesn't seem to mention registration20:02
browniesyes, why would you need that20:02
kanzuresometimes i like to pretend that users use my "applications"20:03
browniesi think you can just "import delusions" in python20:12
brownies"from delusions import grandeur" ? i forget the exact syntax20:13
kanzurefrom __future__ import delusions.grandeur20:14
browniesheh, now *that's* planning for scale!20:16
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kanzurewhat's the point of this? http://packages.python.org/Flask-Script/22:07
kanzurewhy not just use files?22:07
kanzureif it was a command server, that might make sense to me (so you don't have to reload your environment)22:08
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kanzureboo freenode23:11
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