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Sanqui | logs of this channel are public? | 00:16 |
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JayDugger | Yes, at http://gnusha.org/logs/. | 00:21 |
Sanqui | has somebody megahalized them yet | 00:24 |
JayDugger | With whom do you think you converse? | 00:24 |
Sanqui | touché | 00:25 |
JayDugger | Real humans lie fast asleep. We chatbots lie in their place. | 00:25 |
Sanqui | seems like a step up from megahal to me | 00:26 |
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JayDugger | Holy crap! I'm the human? When did that happen? | 00:28 |
Sanqui | go back to sleep | 00:29 |
JayDugger | Ok, I will go back to sleep. Bye-bye. | 00:30 |
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Sanqui | gnite! | 00:30 |
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Burninate | Would-be cyborgs, inventors, start your engines: http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/abrash/why-you-wont-see-hard-ar-anytime-soon/ | 02:32 |
Burninate | also, digital life: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/21/science/in-a-first-an-entire-organism-is-simulated-by-software.html?_r=1&hp | 02:34 |
sylph_mako | Burninate, I wouldn't fund hard ar, ostensibly, I will /always/ want to see reality unfiltered. | 02:47 |
Burninate | I give it five years of Princess Leia Hologram communication and you'll break | 02:49 |
Burninate | I'm still not quite sure I understand the model for how focusing is supposed to work with 'soft AR' | 02:50 |
sylph_mako | I've just obsessed over Virtual Retina Displays, as far as I know they actively monitor the eye's lens? | 02:51 |
sylph_mako | The other day I realized those ugly colored blotches that sometimes manifest to the side of my fovea were my blind spots. What was happening was the action of the system that filters them out of awareness was being delayed, often happens after physical exertion. Recently I think I've had less and less of my nervous system's limitations hidden from me, and I accepted this new revelation as happily as I accepted the awareness of t | 02:55 |
sylph_mako | he narrow bandwidth of my sense of touch. | 02:55 |
ThomasEgi | sylph_mako, unfiltered reality?... i'd love to filter out 99% of all idiots soaring around in reality and replace them by.. i dunno, toasters or so. | 02:55 |
sylph_mako | Ugly reality is best reality. | 02:55 |
sylph_mako | Because it is the only reality. | 02:55 |
ThomasEgi | reality is just your personal preception of "reality" | 02:55 |
Burninate | Do VRD's require a pair of rapidly spinning mirror wheels for projection? | 02:56 |
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Burninate | sylph_mako, the WP article on blind spot has a good test image | 02:57 |
sylph_mako | Burninate, I'll have to refer to it next time the filtration fails and see if they line up. | 02:58 |
Burninate | "Although the VRD is an output device, the technology lends itself to augmentation with eye tracking or eyegaze systems for input. Eye tracking is currently used in advanced still and video cameras for focusing on the object you wish to record." | 02:59 |
Burninate | Really? | 02:59 |
sylph_mako | holy awe. | 02:59 |
Burninate | wow, that's accurate | 03:01 |
Burninate | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EOS#Eye-controlled_focusing | 03:01 |
Burninate | 2008: ""I have stated numerous times on the Web and at least twice in Tech Tips that it is obvious by now that the omission of ECF in EOS Digital SLRs is a marketing decision, not a technical issue. We get user requests for ECF from time to time, but to be blunt, customer demand so far has been insufficient to justify adding this feature. I'll never say never, but don't hold your breath on this one. " " | 03:02 |
sylph_mako | Oh. I thought it was measuring the focal distance of the eye lens or something. | 03:03 |
Burninate | no, just line of gaze and maximize contrast on that area | 03:04 |
Burninate | or something... phase AF is something I haven't penetrated yet | 03:05 |
sylph_mako | Um. I feel it should be noted that you could get somewhat hard AR out of a soft ar device by putting a cowl on the outside of the glasses. Like darkening a room before using the projector. | 03:06 |
Burninate | at the expense of essentially wearing sunglasses | 03:08 |
Burninate | and darkening everything else | 03:08 |
Burninate | maybe if normal passthrough mode is (neutral density filter) -> (laser punch-up of natural colors), but if you can do that convincingly you could just to an opaque display | 03:09 |
Burninate | *do | 03:09 |
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archels | http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/21/science/in-a-first-an-entire-organism-is-simulated-by-software.html?_r=1 | 08:12 |
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delinquentme | ^^^ | 08:23 |
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delinquentme | Oh man check who it is! | 08:54 |
delinquentme | klafka, I might be moving to inninois =X | 08:54 |
delinquentme | illinois ** lol | 08:54 |
klafka | oh | 08:54 |
delinquentme | ( cant even spell the place ) | 08:54 |
klafka | um why? | 08:54 |
delinquentme | urbana champagne needs a rails programmer with bio interest | 08:54 |
delinquentme | gotta see about the payscale though | 08:55 |
klafka | aah | 08:55 |
klafka | my friend just moved here from UIUC | 08:55 |
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klafka1 | i'm pretty sure i just got a new job also delinquentme | 08:59 |
delinquentme | NICE | 09:00 |
delinquentme | where? | 09:00 |
delinquentme | doing? | 09:00 |
klafka1 | in SF | 09:01 |
klafka1 | um to start with support and then transition to data science | 09:01 |
klafka1 | it was half way through the interview and they were like 'wouldn't you rather be a data scientist?' | 09:01 |
klafka1 | and i was like... yeah | 09:01 |
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delinquentme | winrar | 09:24 |
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kanzure | no thanks | 09:27 |
delinquentme | stinking multiple keybaords | 09:30 |
delinquentme | keyboards! hahah | 09:30 |
delinquentme | iii cannot wait to have cash to blow on roboots | 09:31 |
delinquentme | klafka1, the job?? | 09:36 |
klafka1 | yeah | 09:36 |
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klafka1 | hey someone get me this paper http://www.cell.com/abstract/S0092-8674%2812%2900776-3 please! | 11:18 |
kanzure | damn getting bossy... one sec | 11:21 |
kanzure | klafka1: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bio/A%20Whole-Cell%20Computational%20Model%20Predicts%20Phenotype%20from%20Genotype.pdf | 11:23 |
klafka1 | lol | 11:23 |
klafka1 | oh woops | 11:23 |
klafka1 | i remember markus covert | 11:23 |
klafka1 | from palsson's lab | 11:23 |
klafka1 | i wonder if this is using LPs wiuth ODEs | 11:23 |
kanzure | LPs? | 11:24 |
kanzure | oh, linear programming | 11:24 |
kanzure | but the s threw me off | 11:24 |
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delinquentme | anyone happen to have the protocol on that kid who was playing with carbon nanotubes? | 18:54 |
delinquentme | maybe I should just start reading / playing with em | 18:54 |
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kanzure | you're only interested because of a recent news announcement? what about all that other easy graphene stuff.. | 19:20 |
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kanzure | so i'm thinking of sqlalchemy+flask for a project | 19:29 |
kanzure | someone stop me? or why might this be a bad idea | 19:29 |
kanzure | mongokit looks like an interesting contender though. | 19:30 |
kanzure | the problem with flask and quick_orm is that it litters your code with decorators everywhere | 19:34 |
kanzure | @app.route("/reauth", methods=["GET", "POST"]) | 19:34 |
kanzure | @login_required | 19:34 |
kanzure | bleh. | 19:34 |
brownies | sqlalchemy+flask is a solid combo | 20:01 |
brownies | does flask have a devise-like plugin yet? i do so hate writing auth systems | 20:01 |
kanzure | it has https://github.com/maxcountryman/flask-login | 20:02 |
kanzure | doesn't seem to mention registration | 20:02 |
brownies | yes, why would you need that | 20:02 |
kanzure | sometimes i like to pretend that users use my "applications" | 20:03 |
brownies | i think you can just "import delusions" in python | 20:12 |
brownies | "from delusions import grandeur" ? i forget the exact syntax | 20:13 |
kanzure | from __future__ import delusions.grandeur | 20:14 |
brownies | heh, now *that's* planning for scale! | 20:16 |
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kanzure | what's the point of this? http://packages.python.org/Flask-Script/ | 22:07 |
kanzure | why not just use files? | 22:07 |
kanzure | if it was a command server, that might make sense to me (so you don't have to reload your environment) | 22:08 |
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kanzure | boo freenode | 23:11 |
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