2012-08-05.log

--- Log opened Sun Aug 05 00:00:29 2012
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jrayhawkdeluser leaves dangling ownership; i prefer usermod -L00:32
jrayhawkor, i guess, chsh to /bin/false00:32
jrayhawkthat'll cover ssh, too, which has mechanisms to bypass unix auth00:33
jrayhawkregarding wiki pristineness, first of all, i am very interested in knowing what volume of spammers actually sign up and what countermeasures are necessary00:36
jrayhawksecond, if you don't really care about security, a branch is a possibility. if you do care about security, a separate repository is prudent unless you feel like working out how to manage gitolite00:38
jrayhawklocally fetched objects are all hardlinked anyway, so it's not like it costs anything00:39
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kanzurewhat is curiosity doing now?06:45
ThomasEgiporta2 spoiler warning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myEOJaNMQZo&feature=related06:52
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JayDuggerzapping martians with its atom-powered heat-ray!06:57
Vicarious'morning06:58
ThomasEginextup on nasa's shedule, launch a sattelite to europa with a nyancat design.06:59
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kanzurebleep bloop08:17
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gnushadiyhpluswiki.git: f58f043 add a list of local diybio groups08:43
gnushadiyhpluswiki.git: e1187a7 fix email address markdown syntax08:44
gnushadiyhpluswiki.git: 06d0be8 maybe email addresses work?08:46
gnushadiyhpluswiki.git: c74f1a9 add more groups and contact information08:58
gnushadiyhpluswiki.git: 71be183 throw in some emails for LA, seattle, madlab09:02
kanzurehttp://diyhpl.us/wiki/diybio/groups09:04
gnushadiyhpluswiki.git: 6025798 insert munich09:06
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kanzureeudoxia: hi10:42
eudoxiahey kanz10:42
eudoxiaso i see the diyh+wiki has a new face10:42
kanzureis it acceptable?10:47
eudoxiayes10:47
kanzureeudoxia: i also imported hplusroadmap's mediawiki history10:50
kanzure(at least.. for the diybio faq article)10:50
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eudoxiait's good10:54
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eudoxiaso you still have an offline backup of that wiki?10:55
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kanzureeudoxia: actually it's online10:59
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eudoxiawhere?11:00
kanzureeudoxia: i am only temporarily hosting it until i pick what i want to import into git11:00
kanzurehttp://diyhpl.us:5040/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page11:01
kanzurebut seriously.. don't use this site. if you pick some content you want to be saved, i will port it over.11:01
eudoxiawell this is much better than my original idea of copying the archive.org text and inferring wiki markup for it11:02
kanzurereally though, i'd rather you not copy the contents11:02
kanzureit would be better to just centralize the extraction in diyhpluswiki.git, and then you may copy crap from there11:03
eudoxiaokay11:03
kanzureso anyway.. let me know if you find things you want saved11:03
kanzurehttp://diyhpl.us:5040/mediawiki/index.php/List_of_bioinformatics_databases11:03
kanzurehttp://diyhpl.us:5040/mediawiki/index.php/Ribosome_display11:04
kanzurehttp://diyhpl.us:5040/mediawiki/index.php/Sustained_attention11:04
kanzurehttp://diyhpl.us:5040/mediawiki/index.php/Polymerase11:04
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kanzurehttp://diyhpl.us:5040/mediawiki/index.php/Transhumanism_FAQ11:04
kanzurehttp://diyhpl.us:5040/mediawiki/index.php/Retarded_polymerase11:04
kanzurethese are the only pages that might have content, i think.11:04
eudoxiathe SKDB page is a little outdated but has a lot of relevant info11:05
chris_99how come you're running on a weird port no. out of interest11:05
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kanzurechris_99: to stop people from using it11:05
kanzurechris_99: this seems to be ineffective11:05
kanzureeudoxia: good god please don't use that page11:05
eudoxiawhy?11:06
kanzurebecause it's all crap11:06
kanzurenone of it works11:06
eudoxiait could use a little reordering11:06
kanzureit could use a shot in the face11:07
eudoxiado you like my current SKDB article http://wiki.transhumani.com/index.php?title=SKDB ?11:07
kanzureit seems to be copy-pasta fenn's text11:07
kanzureso, yes11:07
eudoxiagood11:09
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eudoxiakanzure: what about the article on neurofarms?11:13
archelseudoxia: What's the URL to the latter?11:14
kanzurei regret this already11:14
eudoxiaarchels: http://diyhpl.us:5040/mediawiki/index.php/Neurofarms11:14
eudoxiahahaha11:14
archelsoh, it's on kanzure's wiki, not transhumani.com11:15
archelshttp://diyhpl.us:5040/mediawiki/index.php/KSRM11:17
archelswhat11:17
eudoxiayeah, kanz, I never understood that11:18
eudoxiawhy wiki the KSRM11:18
eudoxiait's already online11:18
kanzureeudoxia: http://diyhpl.us:5040/mediawiki/index.php/KSRM/111:18
kanzurebecause i wanted to.11:18
kanzurenot a very good reason11:19
eudoxiahm11:19
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kanzurehttp://softwareas.com/cross-domain-communication-with-iframes11:22
kanzurehttp://developer.mozilla.org/en/DOM/document.domain11:22
kanzurehrmm https://github.com/oyvindkinsey/easyXDM/#readme11:28
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eudoxiakanzure: the self-replication page, can it stay or does it need a shot in the facE?11:29
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kanzurei guess i can copy that out11:30
kanzures/copy/port11:30
kanzureso i'm looking at this:11:33
kanzurehttp://developers.kongregate.com/docs/api-overview/client-api11:33
kanzureand all of the questions are like, "LOL I USE UNITY, HOW DO I USE THIS"11:33
kanzureand it's clearly a cross domain javascript api11:33
kanzurewhy would you use this with unity3d?11:33
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brownieskanzure: Unity games can be embedded on a web page and played with a Unity3D browser plugin12:47
kanzureyeah12:48
kanzurebut you wouldn't use an ajax api for that12:48
kanzureyou would use their unity api12:48
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nmz787so is a cell a KSRM, but not all KSRMs are cells?13:31
kanzuresounds right to me13:34
nmz787kanzure: so if atx doesn't have a machine shop, it doesn't sound optimal for putting together the laser CNC13:35
chris_99anyone use a 3D printer-y thing, are they accurate enough to print screw threads13:35
nmz787chris_99: I've seen screws printed before13:36
nmz787dunno how accurate they were13:36
chris_99ooh awesome :)13:36
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brownieskanzure: suffice to say that people do not use Unity because they are brilliant developers13:37
nmz787http://www.makerbot.com/blog/2011/05/26/openscad-screw-libraries-by-syvwlch-and-aubenc/13:38
nmz787chris_99: ^13:38
kanzurethere's also some stuff in mged13:38
kanzureuh MCAD13:39
kanzurehttps://github.com/elmom/MCAD13:39
chris_99cheers, i was thinking a bit finer than that,  good to see it can be done though, in practice13:39
kanzurehahah13:48
kanzurehttp://blogs.ch.cam.ac.uk/pmr/2012/08/05/elsevier-replies-about-hybrid-openacess-i-am-appalled-about-their-practices-breaking-licences-and-having-to-pay-to-read-open-access/13:48
kanzurepay to read open access13:48
kanzureyeehaw.13:49
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kanzurehttp://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/videogallery/index.html?media_id=14947730114:41
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delinquentmeanyone know who might sell square plastic extrusions?15:36
delinquentmecheaply?15:36
delinquentmemcmaster charges 11 bucks a foot ... NOT HAPPENING15:36
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* delinquentme scratches himself16:03
delinquentmeIM scratching my own itch!!!16:03
delinquentmemass weight to cost calculations!16:03
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delinquentmeOK so options for big mass: 1) concrete: $0.34 / lb16:12
delinquentmeshot gun pellets16:17
delinquentmelead.16:17
ParahSailin__ballast for what16:21
delinquentmeroboots16:26
delinquentmeshotgun ballast >> $1.47/lb16:26
delinquentmewhat about general stone16:28
delinquentmeIDK concrete is a pretty awesome deal16:28
ParahSailin__iron shot should be cheap and more dense than concrete/rock/sand16:39
sheenano free gravel around?16:40
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kanzure16:06 <@gwern> 'One of the other post docs (He is Austrian) is also an avid anime fan too apparently. His favorite is First of the North Star. He will say the catch phrase when doing heat shock on transgenic embryos (in order to activate a certain gene,17:03
kanzure"but sometimes can be fatal to the embryos) saying "You are already Dead!" it is quite hilarious actually.'  http://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/xq6hg/my_biology_postdocs_all_watch_anime_story_inside/ "17:03
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kanzure" (NASA was faced with a shortage of quality data tapes in the early 1980s due to a change in the manufacturing process in the mid 1970s. This caused tapes that were no longer needed to be reused.)[1]"18:00
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AdrienGwhat was that sci-fi story18:30
AdrienGwhere an AI that runs lives of everyone sort of18:30
AdrienGtricks a boy into suiciding the AI18:30
AdrienGbecause it was just fed up of knowing everything abuot everyone18:30
kanzurewhat is this "eyes on the solar system" crap18:30
kanzureunity? java? hah18:30
kanzurei am more surprised about unity18:31
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joshcryerJava is everywhere though.20:00
joshcryerExcept apparently iPad.20:00
joshcryerWhich made me laugh.20:00
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brownieskanzure: apparently it uses Java to download a Unity plugin20:25
browniesbecause one obscure obsolete plugin wasn't enough20:25
klafkaunity3d is a super common API apparently20:27
kanzurebrownies: http://kongregate.com/ has this html5 javascript api thingy for game uploading,20:30
kanzurebut it looks like all their developers just use flash and unityt20:31
kanzurebecause none of them understand the same origin policy stuff20:31
browniesklafka: depends what you mean by "is" and "common"20:32
brownieskanzure: yeah20:32
browniesbtw, where's the link to the rover landing livestream?20:32
klafkahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrJT1d1BKhw&feature=player_embedded20:32
browniesthat Eyes on the Solar System thing is just a simulation20:32
kanzurethe eyes on solar system thing can suck it20:33
kanzurethat's not what i wanted at all20:33
browniesklafka: was expecting rickroll... pleasantly surprised20:33
joshcryerkanzure, so write an app to sniff the app and get the data that it's feeding.20:34
kanzurei want the 8 fps feed20:34
kanzurenot this simulated crap20:34
klafkaaah20:35
joshcryerHeh!20:35
joshcryerI want to claim irony here (H+ channel / anti sim) but I appreciate the sentiment. :P20:35
browniesklafka: http://nasa-f.akamaihd.net/public_h264_700@54826?v=1.1.12&fp=LNX%11,0,1,15220:36
brownies(streaming link, open in VLC)20:36
klafkaaah20:36
yashgarothI wonder if the sim has a contingency explosion included, just in case20:36
brownieskanzure: ^20:36
brownieskanzure: yea i want the live snaps from the rover cam20:36
joshcryerbrownies, woot, thanks man20:37
browniessure20:39
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kanzurefaiiill http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/nasatv/20:57
kanzurelet's try.. http://www.ustream.tv/nasahdtv20:57
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brownieskanzure: http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/ustream.html?curiosity21:20
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strangewarpThe rover has successfully touched down on Mars.22:41
nmz7871yahoo22:44
ThomasEgiand they twittered the pics^22:46
sheenalink?22:46
ThomasEgihttp://twitter.com/MarsCuriosity/status/232352290919567361/photo/1/large22:52
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