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| kanzure | so mathias posted "oh, well, reading papers is inconvenient" | 00:02 |
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| kanzure | then.. don't read them. | 00:02 |
| yashgaroth | just blog it to the cloud | 00:03 |
| ThomasEgi | on the other hand. that sounds like a hint to broadcast more science-tv instead of casting shows. | 00:03 |
| yashgaroth | I'm making a startup called papr, it will dynamically real-time synthesize academic articles | 00:03 |
| yashgaroth | on rails! | 00:05 |
| kanzure | yashgaroth: you're hired! i pay $2/hour and don't provide health benefits. | 00:05 |
| yashgaroth | haha in this economy I'd pay you to hire me | 00:05 |
| kanzure | really? because i can arrange that | 00:05 |
| yashgaroth | nah the state pays me pretty good | 00:06 |
| kanzure | at the same rate as your previous employer? | 00:06 |
| yashgaroth | actually, at the rate they paid me while contracting, it's pretty competitive | 00:07 |
| yashgaroth | and the hours are great | 00:08 |
| kanzure | huh. | 00:08 |
| kanzure | is it tax-free? | 00:08 |
| yashgaroth | ironically, no | 00:08 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | nmz787: I believe so | 00:20 |
| kanzure | most hackerspaces tend to not have full machine shops | 00:23 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | well, I haven't actually seen it | 00:26 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | I visited one once | 00:26 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | they said they had a ton of tools, lathe, etc | 00:26 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | it was also a coffee shop | 00:26 |
| yashgaroth | to be fair, every building in the PNW is also a coffee shop | 00:27 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | yep | 00:30 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | state law | 00:30 |
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| jrayhawk | nmz787: the techshop closed down, but close within my social graph are quite a few adequate toys | 01:25 |
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| nmz787 | jrayhawk: cool, chandni's application was accepted, we still have to wait to see if the job offer is decent... but, it's looking better for the portland move | 02:10 |
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| bkero | nmz787: Yes, ADX | 08:39 |
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| bkero | It's fucking expensive though. | 08:40 |
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| nsh | what are we going to do today, brain? | 10:04 |
| ThomasEgi | the same procedure as every year? | 10:07 |
| nsh | .ety promontory | 10:10 |
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| kanzure | "This is a great intro book so far and I especially like the practical side. Shame kit not available in Europe. Is there an AdaFruit Equivalent for DIYBIO on kickstarter for Europe yet?" | 10:26 |
| kanzure | "is there a rails in the cloud on zynga yet?" | 10:26 |
| kanzure | blah why didn't tashou come in here | 10:27 |
| nsh | who what why now> | 10:39 |
| nsh | ? | 10:39 |
| kanzure | 唐大綬 | 10:44 |
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| kanzure | nmz787: do you see anything good here? http://www.swicoauctions.com/onsite/?auction=295 | 11:39 |
| kanzure | geeze why is there no liquidation auction aggregator yet? | 11:39 |
| nsh | because you haven't written it? | 11:46 |
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| nsh | or it's a messy task | 11:47 |
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| kanzure | nsh: i know how i would implement it- it's not that messy | 11:47 |
| kanzure | nsh: but yes i suspect the answer is "because bryan hasn't done it yet", which is annoying.. | 11:47 |
| nsh | how would you implement it? | 11:47 |
| kanzure | the front-end is mostly a solved problem on the interwebs | 11:48 |
| kanzure | i think i would like to do the backend with pyphantomjs | 11:48 |
| nsh | is it not a horrible scraping problem? | 11:49 |
| kanzure | nsh: i am a master of horrible scraping | 11:49 |
| kanzure | http://phantomjs.org/ http://github.com/kanzure/pyphantomjs | 11:49 |
| * nsh inspects | 11:49 | |
| kanzure | i have this silly javascript library i've written to help control phantomjs sessions (called spatula.js) | 11:49 |
| kanzure | i should probably clean it up and release it.. | 11:50 |
| nsh | oh, this looks fun | 11:50 |
| nsh | but the web stack is only half the problem, you also have to encapsulate the human visual processing interface to which the data structure is presented | 11:52 |
| kanzure | that's not a big deal | 11:52 |
| kanzure | throw twitter bootstrap on it and go have lunch | 11:52 |
| nsh | hmm | 11:52 |
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| kanzure | urchin: are you transhumanizam.fizika.org ? | 13:11 |
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| nmz787 | kanzure: on pg 2 of that auction site, there are 'craftsman saws' for $0 | 17:47 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: it looks like a big radial arm saw | 17:48 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: i'd say ask you mom | 17:48 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: also 'HTG masker' for $95... "has a Nikon microscope, used in making silicone boards," | 17:49 |
| delinquentme | what site is this? | 17:49 |
| nsh | http://www.swicoauctions.com/onsite/?auction=295 | 17:51 |
| kanzure | nmz787: i was wondering why there's no auction aggregator site.. with alerts and things | 17:56 |
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| delinquentme | http://www.judegomila.com/2012/08/synthetic-biology-is-heading-for-cloud.html | 18:07 |
| delinquentme | sooo this guys got links to a ton of new technolgies I've not yet seen.. AWESOME! | 18:07 |
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| kanzure | delinquentme: don't get so excited.. those are just broken landing pages | 18:14 |
| kanzure | including cambrian | 18:14 |
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| kanzure | "What would it take (money, supplies, etc.) to insert red fluorescent genes such as those found in glofish into Enchytraeus buchholzi? Gonna take this stuff head on, really want to learn all about genetic engineering. Just want some basics from you guys." | 18:17 |
| kanzure | faq doesn't handle this question, but this sort of question comes up often | 18:18 |
| kanzure | (buchholzi is a new twist on the question though, and so is rfp) | 18:18 |
| yashgaroth | rfp expression's no different from gfp | 18:18 |
| kanzure | so this might seem to be an "intro" question, but it's actually not | 18:18 |
| kanzure | well, yes | 18:18 |
| kanzure | but i have no idea abuot culturing buccholzi | 18:18 |
| kanzure | might require some random nitrogen environment, who knows | 18:19 |
| yashgaroth | it's a feed animal, can't be too exotic | 18:19 |
| kanzure | this sort of question seems to really be saying "show me an easy button", right? | 18:19 |
| yashgaroth | yes, it is a question on the diybio group | 18:19 |
| yashgaroth | still needs a "my budget is $23.50" | 18:21 |
| kanzure | "what supplies does it take to do x project" is really a function of the accumulative supplies of each technique in the pipeline | 18:21 |
| kanzure | i was going to link him to the faq | 18:22 |
| kanzure | but then i realized the faq doesn't answer his question at all | 18:22 |
| yashgaroth | I can't even imagine how you'd transfect them...don't think anyone's studied worm viruses | 18:22 |
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| yashgaroth | I see they've been very quick about updating the google group header | 18:22 |
| kanzure | what do you mean? | 18:23 |
| kanzure | it looks the same to me | 18:23 |
| yashgaroth | sorry, being sarcastic, they haven't done shit | 18:23 |
| kanzure | yeah.. | 18:23 |
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| kanzure | yashgaroth: maybe reply-in-support on my last email about updating diybio.org to include a link? | 18:24 |
| yashgaroth | idk it'd be a bit too obvious since I never post there | 18:24 |
| kanzure | the twist is that in reality i'm YOUR sock puppet | 18:24 |
| yashgaroth | excellent, then I shall post | 18:25 |
| * kanzure puppets around | 18:25 | |
| * nsh hums | 18:25 | |
| kanzure | yashgaroth: or better yet, maybe you can contribute some crappy one-line answers to the faq? | 18:26 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/wiki/diybio/faq/better-questions/ | 18:26 |
| yashgaroth | I'd just copy & paste "start with a book" as every answer | 18:27 |
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| nsh | if you stand on a thick enough book and ask your question, the authoritativeness of height might elicit a non flippant answer | 18:28 |
| kanzure | to be fair, most books are not protocol collections | 18:29 |
| kanzure | protocol collections are what people need, not that "poetic summary of cellular metabolism" crap | 18:29 |
| yashgaroth | sure, but one can only go so far on "coloring book molecular biology" | 18:30 |
| nsh | i think we have, ehm, complementary apprehensions of people's needs | 18:30 |
| kanzure | no we all agree that what people most need is to be beaten | 18:30 |
| nsh | that's true | 18:31 |
| nsh | on the other hand (that one that isn't using the rod), i don't think we have a protocol stack for comprehension yet | 18:32 |
| nsh | so poetic summaries may have to continue propitiating | 18:32 |
| nsh | the deities of grok | 18:33 |
| * nsh considers the pantheon | 18:33 | |
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| kanzure | yashgaroth: oh i didn't mean you had to post that, hah, but thanks too | 18:51 |
| yashgaroth | I got a snide remark in there so I'm happy | 18:52 |
| nsh | WIN | 18:53 |
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| jrayhawk | dear diybio: i have trouble seeing my cat at night how can i make a glow in the dark cat thanks in advance | 20:55 |
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| brownies | couldn't you just... give him a glow-in-the-dark collar? | 22:03 |
| Mokbortolan_ | psychohistory? http://www.kurzweilai.net/human-cycles-history-as-science | 22:08 |
| yashgaroth | my pallets of spam are finally vindicated | 22:08 |
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| kanzure | http://bomfire.com/ | 22:15 |
| kanzure | matt bond <matt@bomfire.com> | 22:15 |
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| kanzure | jrayhawk: well, first you expose your cat to an unhealthy amount of UV | 22:34 |
| kanzure | "Right now the most popular archive.org torrent is a collection of My Little Pony porn from /r/clopclop." | 22:36 |
| kanzure | good job lesswrong | 22:36 |
| jrayhawk | oh god my cat has developed an esca and very large teeth and now eats other cats i think i may have done this wrong | 22:37 |
| yashgaroth | quick find a nuclear reactor | 22:37 |
| kanzure | update: i am in a nuclear reactor with hostages what do i do? | 22:40 |
| yashgaroth | ok get jay's cat to bite you while drinking some of the coolant and you should be good to go | 22:42 |
| jrayhawk | okay cat now has obsession with pokemon and interaction-tracking i do not think this is working!!! | 22:44 |
| yashgaroth | ah crap I haven't read this far into the comicbook yet hang on | 22:44 |
| kanzure | by comic you mean manga, and by manga you mean the hplusroadmap manga? | 22:45 |
| yashgaroth | oh, naturally | 22:45 |
| jrayhawk | kanzure i should warn you in advance that i do not fit into a pokeball | 22:45 |
| kanzure | i bet you're weak against normal | 22:46 |
| jrayhawk | i'm super ineffective | 22:46 |
| Mokbortolan_ | machop uses pound! | 22:47 |
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| kanzure | tashou: welcome | 23:43 |
| tashou | yeah | 23:43 |
| tashou | thanks!!! | 23:43 |
| kanzure | tashou: re-ask your question | 23:43 |
| tashou | well, ok | 23:43 |
| tashou | I am an teaching assistant in a nursing school | 23:44 |
| tashou | and our biological room has 60 seats | 23:44 |
| tashou | this lab is supporting the experiments for anatomy, pharmacology, physiology, and microbiology and immunology | 23:45 |
| tashou | just for the freshmen to get some feeling about those basic bio-med sciences | 23:46 |
| tashou | we have many models for anatomy (came from somo, Germany) | 23:47 |
| tashou | at least 60 optic microscopes | 23:47 |
| kanzure | tashou: stick around, but i need to sleep. yashgaroth might be around.. | 23:47 |
| yashgaroth | sure | 23:47 |
| tashou | Electro kardiac Photogropher | 23:48 |
| tashou | to Kanzure: OK | 23:48 |
| tashou | good night, K | 23:48 |
| tashou | :) | 23:48 |
| tashou | and we have a PCR machine (although it has been ignored for years...) | 23:48 |
| tashou | many physiological equipments | 23:49 |
| tashou | two autoclaves | 23:49 |
| tashou | one microbiological hood | 23:49 |
| tashou | one hood for animal experiment | 23:49 |
| tashou | and the other one hood for chemical reagent adjustment | 23:50 |
| tashou | many eletrophoresis equipments | 23:50 |
| yashgaroth | and you want to do DIYbio stuff there? | 23:50 |
| tashou | yeah, | 23:51 |
| tashou | I might | 23:51 |
| yashgaroth | it sounds well equipped | 23:51 |
| tashou | it is very wasting if these equipments are ignored here... | 23:51 |
| tashou | however, since the beaurocrapcy here... this equpments have been ignored | 23:52 |
| yashgaroth | so you think they wouldn't allow you to do diybio there? | 23:52 |
| tashou | -20 and -80 freezers | 23:52 |
| tashou | I do not have money | 23:53 |
| yashgaroth | well that's a conundrum | 23:54 |
| tashou | mmm.... | 23:56 |
| tashou | yeah | 23:56 |
| yashgaroth | I don't think we have anyone here or in diybio from asia in general, much less taiwan | 23:56 |
| tashou | maybe I can find some ways to make these equips activated | 23:56 |
| tashou | you are right, | 23:57 |
| yashgaroth | the established places like biocurious and genspace make some money by teaching basic biotech to people on weekends | 23:57 |
| kanzure | yashgaroth: denisa kera | 23:58 |
| tashou | mmmm.... that is a good idea... | 23:58 |
| kanzure | michel bauwens was from taiwan | 23:58 |
| tashou | wow!!! | 23:58 |
| * kanzure goes back to sleep | 23:58 | |
| yashgaroth | denisa's an odd case, but yeah that's true | 23:58 |
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| tashou | well, in my case, the equips belong to the school | 23:59 |
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