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| nmz787 | this rood book is OK | 00:06 |
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| kanzure | where is it? | 00:09 |
| kanzure | i didn't see a link to the full text | 00:09 |
| kanzure | also: nokia just sold qt | 00:09 |
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| nmz787 | on the right side of your link | 00:17 |
| nmz787 | a drop down of like 20 diff file formats | 00:17 |
| kanzure | ah looked like spam so i ignored that | 00:18 |
| brownies | they sold Qt? | 00:34 |
| kanzure | i am too tired to verify | 00:34 |
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| tashou | sorry, I forget how go connect to this forum <channel>,(I use the "history" function of mIRC) | 01:00 |
| nmz787 | hi tashou | 01:12 |
| nmz787 | "Anyway, the end result of my dreadlock design is that the hotter my head gets, the straighter the Nitinol gets. | 01:38 |
| nmz787 | The straighter the wires get, the less my dreads cover my head and the more heat escapes." He smiled widely, | 01:38 |
| nmz787 | "It lets me overclock my brain." | 01:38 |
| nmz787 | hah | 01:38 |
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| foucist | pfft, trepanning is better for overclocking | 02:08 |
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| tashou | hi | 02:16 |
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| nmz787 | kanzure: SyntaxError: Non-ASCII character '\xef' in file /home/nathan/nano/nanoengineer/cad/src/foundation/preferences.py on line 3, but no encoding declared; see http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0263.html for details | 02:38 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: can i do a find/replace to fix this? | 02:38 |
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| ParahSailin | sed -e 's/\xef//' -i filename | 06:21 |
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| nmz787 | lemm tyr | 06:53 |
| nmz787 | try | 06:53 |
| nmz787 | ParahSailin: thanks | 06:55 |
| ParahSailin | how did that character get there? | 06:55 |
| ParahSailin | utf something i guess | 06:56 |
| ParahSailin | maybe just read file as utf-8? | 06:56 |
| nmz787 | i used some Numeric 2 numpy converter script | 06:57 |
| nmz787 | it must've done it | 06:57 |
| ParahSailin | ah | 06:58 |
| nmz787 | so i dont see in the sed man page what s/ might do | 06:59 |
| ParahSailin | substitute | 07:02 |
| nmz787 | oh der | 07:04 |
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| nmz787 | bkero: jrayhawk: if i move to PDX area, do you know anyone with a few acres of rural land with a house for rent? in commuting distance (20-30 miles max) to hillsboro | 07:53 |
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| delinquentme | serious question: I've put off learning mildly complex SQL shit for a while | 08:01 |
| delinquentme | wheres a good place to sandbox around with SQL joins | 08:01 |
| kanzure | nmz787: to fix that you can put # encoding: utf-8 at the top of the file | 08:01 |
| delinquentme | sqlfiddle.com is what im futzing w right now | 08:02 |
| nmz787 | delinquentme: just install postgresql | 08:16 |
| delinquentme | nmz787, haha | 08:16 |
| delinquentme | this is not a quick fix :D | 08:16 |
| delinquentme | but yea I've got prostgres installed | 08:16 |
| nmz787 | soo, why can't you play with complex joins there? | 08:17 |
| delinquentme | well its just for a questionairre | 08:21 |
| delinquentme | Its not a DB id keep and have it persist | 08:21 |
| delinquentme | does postgresql have a limit on the number of entries it wil return by defult | 08:22 |
| kanzure | you can also use heroku's free postgresql offering (for up to 10k rows) (or more for $5/mo) | 08:23 |
| delinquentme | lol | 08:24 |
| delinquentme | i really just need to practice joins | 08:24 |
| kanzure | if you want to practice joins then i highly recommend using sqlite | 08:26 |
| kanzure | DIYbio'ers are probably more theoretical-oriented than not. I doubt there would be anyone here who could get as far as slicing a chunk out of their finger to stick a rare earth magnet in and not have already thought "maybe I shouldn't be using magnetic tweezers for this task"." | 08:27 |
| kanzure | ha | 08:27 |
| delinquentme | http://sqlfiddle.com/#!5/ecd3f/1 | 08:31 |
| delinquentme | =] | 08:31 |
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| nmz787 | kanzure: so i'm running into this basically http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11505523/glerror-within-glendlist-within-classic-greas-py-example | 08:54 |
| nmz787 | glxgears runs on my VM | 08:55 |
| nmz787 | but i'm getting that 1280 error for nanoengi | 08:55 |
| kanzure | well, you can downgrade your mesa version | 08:55 |
| kanzure | or upgrade nanoengineer to use a more recent version of opengl | 08:56 |
| nmz787 | the only attempt at a real answer on that is "From what I can tell, this is a problem with your OpenGL implementation. I tried it on a few of my Linux installs (Debian, Ubuntu) and the code runs great. – ananthonline " | 08:56 |
| nmz787 | rather attempt at a real answer | 08:56 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk might have a better hint for achieving opengl satiety | 08:56 |
| nmz787 | its this file https://github.com/kanzure/nanoengineer/blob/master/cad/src/graphics/drawing/drawcompass.py | 08:56 |
| nmz787 | so i'm all up to datre | 08:56 |
| kanzure | well it might be every glbeginlist/glendlist and drawcompass.py just happens to be the first one | 08:57 |
| nmz787 | and the function call glendlist looks like its being used properly | 08:57 |
| nmz787 | right but I cant even get this to pass | 08:57 |
| kanzure | i'm p. sure glbegin/glend is deprecated | 08:57 |
| nmz787 | I tried adding None inside the glEndList parens | 08:57 |
| kanzure | or is that only in GLES? | 08:57 |
| nmz787 | http://www.opengl.org/sdk/docs/man/xhtml/glNewList.xml | 08:57 |
| nmz787 | ? | 08:58 |
| nmz787 | GL_INVALID_ENUM is generated if mode is not an accepted value. | 08:58 |
| nmz787 | dunno if that correlates with the python invalid enumeration 1280 | 08:58 |
| nmz787 | def _draw_compass_geometry(): """ Do GL state changes and draw constant geometry for compass. Doesn't depend on any outside state, so can be compiled into an unchanging display list. """ | 08:59 |
| nmz787 | hmm | 09:00 |
| kanzure | btw jblake might be able to spot the bug here, he seems to have an unusual knowledge of opengl APIs | 09:00 |
| nmz787 | hmm, so kanzure can you run http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mcfletch/pyopengl-demo/trunk/download/head:/gears.py-20080923005140-67c17kywpwxa2usj-21/gears.py | 09:07 |
| nmz787 | it dies on me with a seg fault | 09:08 |
| kanzure | prolly because you don't have that version of pyopengl | 09:09 |
| nmz787 | hmm, let's see what updating the system does | 09:10 |
| nmz787 | i wonder if this is some stupid virtualbox crap not working (I have 3D accel turned on in the settings, and glxgears worked :/) | 09:10 |
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| kanzure | i don't know what "3D accel" is, but mesa was probably doing things for you | 09:26 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: check this list out, it's all swf links, and they seem to work... http://diybio4beginners.blogspot.com/2009/02/mcgrawhill-narrated-animations-chapter.html | 09:28 |
| kanzure | um? what is this for | 09:29 |
| nmz787 | 3D accel I think passes through the opengl kernel commands to the native video card | 09:30 |
| nmz787 | diybio | 09:30 |
| nmz787 | through virtualbox and into the windows driver* | 09:30 |
| kanzure | looks like a standard biology textbook animation list to me.. | 09:30 |
| kanzure | i think even holt has this | 09:31 |
| nmz787 | yeah, just saying | 09:34 |
| nmz787 | its good for the faq, somewhere | 09:34 |
| kanzure | oh | 09:34 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: why do you think mesa has anything to do with the problem? | 09:35 |
| kanzure | i don't. | 09:35 |
| nmz787 | (12:26:19 PM) kanzure: i don't know what "3D accel" is, but mesa was probably doing things for you | 09:36 |
| kanzure | well, i mean, it probably is not causing the problem directly. i think the problem is that nanoengineer is expecting an older version of things. | 09:36 |
| kanzure | type "glxinfo" to see which version of mesa is running | 09:36 |
| nmz787 | doesn't mention mesa at all | 09:37 |
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| jrayhawk | 'SGI' is the relevant thing | 10:19 |
| kanzure | doh | 10:19 |
| nmz787 | hrmm | 10:22 |
| nmz787 | jrayhawk: glxinfo has no version info when I grep for SGI | 10:24 |
| jrayhawk | i would expect something like | 10:25 |
| jrayhawk | OpenGL vendor string: nouveau | 10:25 |
| jrayhawk | OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on NV94 | 10:25 |
| jrayhawk | OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.2 | 10:25 |
| jrayhawk | OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20 | 10:25 |
| kanzure | haha http://news.bmezine.com/2006/01/15/magnetic-implants-a-six-month-retrospective-the-publishers-ring/ " many have had their coating rupture exposing the toxic neodymium and that a common result of implants is the formation of cysts and painful lymph around it." | 10:25 |
| jrayhawk | oh, well, i guess if you're in a VM, I'd expect software rendering | 10:25 |
| kanzure | yeah i expected software rendering too, but i didn't know mesa wouldn't show up in glxinfo | 10:26 |
| kanzure | oh maybe he was grepping for the string literal | 10:26 |
| nmz787 | i was grepping for OpenGL too | 10:27 |
| nmz787 | OpenGL vendor string: Humper | 10:27 |
| nmz787 | OpenGL renderer string: Chromium | 10:27 |
| nmz787 | OpenGL version string: 2.1 Chromium 1.9 | 10:27 |
| nmz787 | OpenGL shading language version string: 1.40 - Intel Build 8.15.10.2769 | 10:27 |
| nmz787 | OpenGL extensions: | 10:27 |
| kanzure | chromium...? | 10:27 |
| nmz787 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_(computer_graphics) | 10:27 |
| kanzure | god damn it google | 10:28 |
| jrayhawk | huh | 10:28 |
| jrayhawk | what's wrong with google | 10:28 |
| kanzure | well, if there was a pre-existing software package by that name, don't reuse the name | 10:29 |
| jrayhawk | chromium isn't made by google | 10:29 |
| kanzure | i mean chromium.org chromium | 10:29 |
| nmz787 | I've used Chromium before for the multi monitor junk, before google came around so big with their browser | 10:29 |
| jrayhawk | chromium.org isn't made by google | 10:29 |
| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_(web_browser) | 10:30 |
| kanzure | seems to be google-originating to me | 10:31 |
| jrayhawk | oh, i am wrong | 10:32 |
| kanzure | actually i guess it doesn't explicitly state whether or not "The Chromium Project" was spawned outside of google or not | 10:32 |
| kanzure | damn why is there no 'history of chromium' page.. silly developers focusing on their silly development work | 10:33 |
| kanzure | "In September 2008, Google released a large portion of Chrome's source code as an open source project called Chromium[2][3] which Chrome releases continue to be based on." | 10:33 |
| nmz787 | hmm, maybe if updating the whole ubuntu system doesn't work, turning off 3D accel in virtualbox will do it then | 10:34 |
| nmz787 | I used to be able to boot this nanoengineer code to a GUI (without any chroot) | 10:34 |
| nmz787 | though it wasn't functional past that :P | 10:34 |
| kanzure | iirc a lot of the opengl stuff is broken in modern distributions | 10:34 |
| kanzure | so it would be worth it to ask jblake or someone who has a historical perspective on opengl | 10:35 |
| jrayhawk | 'chrome' is also an important mozilla technology, and 'firebird' was an important open source database | 10:35 |
| jrayhawk | i think ben goodger might just be kindof a dick when it comes to trademarks | 10:35 |
| kanzure | did he name all those? | 10:36 |
| kanzure | oh, chromium | 10:36 |
| kanzure | oh, and mozilla. well then. | 10:36 |
| jrayhawk | oh, and phoenix | 10:37 |
| jrayhawk | hot damn, what a record | 10:37 |
| nmz787 | oh jrayhawk, i asked earlier if you knew of anyone with a rural place to rent | 10:39 |
| kanzure | truly i can only aspire to such great heights | 10:39 |
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| jrayhawk | it'd be a bit of a hunt for slim pickings | 11:01 |
| bkero | nmz787: Sorry, I know some folks with land, but no houses for rent. | 11:04 |
| nmz787 | thanks, i'll leave it to craigslist then i guess | 11:07 |
| jrayhawk | rural connections are pretty lousy; you typically get at least one of choice between rural wireless, 1.5mbit dsl, and comcast cable; it's fairly easy to find cheap FTTP in the developed areas, though | 11:07 |
| jrayhawk | you might also look at padmapper | 11:07 |
| nmz787 | i've found padmapper not to work as well as craigslist when you want to filter by keyword | 11:10 |
| nmz787 | jrayhawk: are you sufficiently far out that you have bad tubes? | 11:11 |
| jrayhawk | 1.5mbit DSL, yes. | 11:11 |
| nmz787 | hmm | 11:11 |
| nmz787 | and i remember I didn't even have 3G or 1X there | 11:12 |
| jrayhawk | What carrier are you with? | 11:12 |
| nmz787 | sprint | 11:12 |
| nmz787 | microwave hops from Intel... :D | 11:12 |
| jrayhawk | huh, they're actually one of the better ones around here | 11:13 |
| nmz787 | so when i turn of 3D accel i get this msg "OpenGL Warning: Failed to connect to host. Make sure 3D acceleration is enabled for this VM." | 11:14 |
| nmz787 | but nanoengineer's GUI shows up | 11:14 |
| nmz787 | sooo, seems strange, I guess its opengl or chromium | 11:14 |
| nmz787 | oh | 11:16 |
| nmz787 | http://chromium.sourceforge.net/doc/conformance.html "Display lists aren't fully conformant. There are several issues:When using the tilesort SPU, glCopyTexImage (and similar) commands can't be implemented correctly since the framebuffer is tiled and the individual renderers can't access their peers.GL_COMPILE_AND_EXECUTE mode may not work reliably, specifically if there is a glGet* call between glNewList and glEndList which gets state | 11:17 |
| nmz787 | though nanoengineer was just using GL_COMPILE | 11:17 |
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| yorick | anyone seen "H+ the digital series"? | 13:00 |
| yorick | I am severely disappointed in it | 13:00 |
| yorick | the episodes are 5 minutes each. | 13:00 |
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| yorick | http://www.youtube.com/user/HplusDigitalSeries/feed here are the exclusive first 6 episodes only available to subscribers. | 13:08 |
| yorick | except not really | 13:08 |
| archels | Just watched ep 1, looks awesome :D | 13:10 |
| yorick | archels: it's a classic "science will screw up the world" | 13:11 |
| archels | alright, I take it the next eps are some sort of techno-anarcy bullshit then? | 13:12 |
| yorick | no | 13:13 |
| yorick | the next eps are "oh my god the world collapsed" | 13:13 |
| archels | What did you think after having watched just the first ep? | 13:14 |
| yorick | archels: after the first ep, I was curious about ep2 which is also out | 13:14 |
| yorick | the ep1 would make a fitting intro for a longer series | 13:14 |
| archels | well, can't wait to see it :D | 13:15 |
| yorick | so go see it then | 13:15 |
| yorick | it's only 5 minutes long :P | 13:15 |
| archels | although I think there are at least two good H+ movies coming out in the next year or so | 13:15 |
| archels | don't ask me for the titles though, you'll have to do some googleing | 13:15 |
| kanzure | i have learned to not buy anything that says "hplus" | 13:17 |
| yorick | kanzure: but it's free. | 13:17 |
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| Steel2 | archels: one would be prototype | 13:30 |
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| archels | Steel2: thank you, I also remember a trailer with lots of neon and fluorescing street animals though | 13:58 |
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| strangewarp | Glenn Beck's latest book contains a chapter on transhumanism, where he supports the idea entirely. | 14:05 |
| Steel2 | niiice | 14:06 |
| yashgaroth | wut | 14:06 |
| strangewarp | There's a LessWrong thread about it.. I might as well link it, even though I'm fully aware of the "bleh" attitude such links tend to invoke here (and agree with the reasons it does so) | 14:07 |
| strangewarp | http://lesswrong.com/lw/d1b/glenn_beck_discusses_the_singularity_cites_si/ | 14:07 |
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| nsh | you guys still read lesswrong? | 16:00 |
| * nsh checks current derp levels | 16:00 | |
| kanzure | no | 16:00 |
| nsh | oh god it's a community now | 16:00 |
| kanzure | it's growing :( | 16:00 |
| kanzure | how do i stop it | 16:00 |
| nsh | there'll be little yudoskinos | 16:01 |
| nsh | this is a case for the world herp organisation | 16:01 |
| nsh | an international innoculation campaign is required | 16:01 |
| kanzure | i am open to ideas | 16:02 |
| n_bentha | herp-derpies | 16:06 |
| nsh | [[[ | 16:09 |
| nsh | Now, imagine telling this group that capitalism and representative democracy will take the world by storm, lifting hundreds of millions of people out of poverty. Imagine telling them their descendants will eradicate smallpox and regularly live seventy-five or more years. Imagine telling them that men will walk on the moon, that planes, flying hundreds of miles an hour, will transport people around the world, or that cities will be filled with buildings | 16:09 |
| nsh | reaching thousands of feet into the air. | 16:09 |
| nsh | They’d probably escort you to the madhouse. | 16:09 |
| nsh | Unless, that is, one of the people in that group had been a man named Ray Kurzweil. | 16:09 |
| nsh | ]]] -ibid | 16:09 |
| nsh | this is why futurism gets a bad rep... | 16:09 |
| Steel2 | you realize that quote's not from a LWer right? | 16:12 |
| kanzure | ray has it made for himself.. do a few music synthesizers, write some shitty OCR software and sell it xerox, and just hire some kids to write you a book on transhumanism, and you're set for life :P | 16:12 |
| * nsh smiles | 16:15 | |
| strangewarp | Oh, yeah, that entire LW post is just a blockquote of Glenn Beck | 16:26 |
| strangewarp | So, it's a bit loopy, even though it surprisingly avoids Beck's usual horribleness | 16:27 |
| strangewarp | horribleness/goodness/whateverness | 16:28 |
| * strangewarp fails his political neutrality roll | 16:28 | |
| ParahSailin | lesswrong is bleh here? | 16:36 |
| * yorick had no idea | 16:38 | |
| n_bentha | i don't even know who glen beck is >.< | 16:38 |
| yorick | but it's motly nsh | 16:38 |
| yorick | mostly* | 16:38 |
| * nsh assumes sole responsibility to semijustified extreme dislike of eliezer | 16:40 | |
| nsh | *for | 16:40 |
| Steel2 | what's your extreme dislike of him due to? | 16:41 |
| yorick | how does one dislike eliezer? | 16:41 |
| Steel2 | oh, I can get why people dislike him | 16:41 |
| Steel2 | I don't know how that goes to extreme though | 16:41 |
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| strangewarp | Eliezer holds views on Friendly AI that may become functionally equivalent to the precautionary principle, I reckon | 16:43 |
| nsh | here | 16:44 |
| nsh | i just can't think how he'd be remotely useful in any actual situation where something had to be,, done | 16:44 |
| nsh | and people listen to him. the only thing worse than people not thinking or learning is people having the mistaken impression they're doing both | 16:45 |
| Steel2 | apparently he did some decently lecturing at finance firms about locating bias | 16:45 |
| Steel2 | *decent | 16:45 |
| ParahSailin | yudkowsky is pompous, but extreme dislike? | 16:45 |
| ParahSailin | he can write a decent yarn | 16:46 |
| nsh | ParahSailin, my affects are generally compensatory. if everyone hates someone who's objectively revolting, then i tend to give them more of a chance | 16:46 |
| nsh | conversely... | 16:46 |
| nsh | when i find something to be rated more than it ought, i have to try to correct the average | 16:46 |
| nsh | through radical disdain | 16:47 |
| kanzure | yorick: welcome to the official eliezer yudkowsky haters club | 16:50 |
| kanzure | we come with badges and everything | 16:50 |
| yorick | kanzure: I, for one, like Eliezer Yudkowsky! | 16:50 |
| kanzure | then get the fuck out | 16:50 |
| * yorick hides | 16:50 | |
| kanzure | heh | 16:50 |
| yorick | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEiyBbP28g8 | 16:51 |
| kanzure | i've met him. he's nice in person and he's polite over email/chat/whatever. but i don't support his ideas or his cult. | 16:51 |
| kanzure | i also hold him partly responsible for "clopping", which is annoying inofitself | 16:52 |
| yorick | he is? | 16:52 |
| ParahSailin | clopping? | 16:52 |
| ParahSailin | he's a brony? | 16:52 |
| kanzure | lesswrong is like the source of all that horse bullshit | 16:52 |
| kanzure | blah | 16:52 |
| yorick | it is? | 16:52 |
| * yorick likes that horse bullshit | 16:52 | |
| kanzure | blaaah | 16:52 |
| kanzure | great.. | 16:52 |
| ParahSailin | wait what? | 16:52 |
| kanzure | yorick: most people disapprove of publicly admitting to masturbating to horses, dude | 16:53 |
| yorick | kanzure: not the clopping, silly | 16:53 |
| n_bentha | rainbow dash <3 | 16:53 |
| ParahSailin | goddamn, i didnt know you were a brony n_bentha | 16:53 |
| n_bentha | no, my sister is | 16:54 |
| yorick | no, that's called a "pegasis" | 16:54 |
| yorick | or something | 16:54 |
| n_bentha | stop wanking to horses z0mg! | 16:55 |
| * yorick denies all allegations | 16:55 | |
| kanzure | well, it's possible that 4chan did a raid on lesswrong and injected all that into the culture, which is equally hilarious, but i sort of doubt it | 16:56 |
| ParahSailin | i kinda missed the horse masturbation completely there | 16:56 |
| * ParahSailin never went into the forum side though | 16:57 | |
| yorick | ^ | 16:57 |
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| brownies | wtf is clopping? | 17:04 |
| brownies | ... | 17:05 |
| brownies | well, what the fuck. | 17:05 |
| yorick | don't google that | 17:06 |
| brownies | i urban-dictionary'd it... that was quite enough | 17:06 |
| strangewarp | Today has been quite surreal | 17:09 |
| strangewarp | Bronies are funny, because they act identical to furries, but they're in total denial about it | 17:12 |
| strangewarp | Fixation on something that seems inexplicable to outsiders? Check. Original characters that represent themselves? Check. n inexplicably large amount of weird porn? Check | 17:13 |
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| ThomasEgi | strangewarp, rule 34? | 17:16 |
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| strangewarp | Rule 34 is just about proof-of-concept. If something specific then goes past that point, to become a commodity or a genre, then something different is going on :p | 17:17 |
| ThomasEgi | whatever.. i have cookies :D | 17:18 |
| strangewarp | mmm... | 17:20 |
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| n_bentha | whatever ThomasEgi, I have cookie-dough! | 17:29 |
| kanzure | if anyone is bored in sf and wants to go hang out with people who might pay for html/js work: | 17:49 |
| kanzure | http://webspeeddatingdev.eventbrite.com/ | 17:49 |
| kanzure | it's at 7pm and presumably it's "reservation only".. i have a ticket for some reason and i'm not in sf | 17:49 |
| kanzure | any takers? | 17:50 |
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| * nsh counts the reasons he's not interested in the above offer | 17:57 | |
| nsh | well, it's a prime | 17:57 |
| nsh | pip doesn't like the egg in git:kanzure:pyphantomjs /dist | 18:00 |
| nsh | or maybe i just don't know how to use it | 18:00 |
| kanzure | python setup.py build ? | 18:00 |
| nsh | trying | 18:02 |
| nsh | oh, working now | 18:02 |
| nsh | or at least, cmdline options shown | 18:02 |
| kanzure | nsh: if you can get things working, please make commits in a branch and issue pull requests | 18:02 |
| nsh | i'll try | 18:03 |
| kanzure | clearly i have not given pyphantomjs enough attention | 18:03 |
| nsh | it'd be good for me to make some contributions | 18:03 |
| nsh | i've been incredibly code lazy for far too long | 18:03 |
| nsh | kanzure, do you have any existing scripts you can send my way to for pedagogic purposes | 18:05 |
| nsh | s/to // | 18:05 |
| kanzure | scripts for what specifically? | 18:06 |
| kanzure | if you mean phantomjs in general.. i was working on this for a while: | 18:06 |
| kanzure | https://gist.github.com/80badcf6c66c7a3d8d8e | 18:06 |
| nsh | example scripts of using pyphantomjs, or are all the calls the same as in the js version? | 18:07 |
| nsh | no experience with JS or coffee | 18:07 |
| nsh | i'll pick it up though | 18:07 |
| kanzure | if you read the source code to pyphantomjs it's somewhat obvious what you need to override in your own scripts | 18:08 |
| nsh | ok | 18:08 |
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| nsh | is there an argv or something? | 18:14 |
| kanzure | in python? | 18:14 |
| nsh | in phantomjs | 18:14 |
| kanzure | phantom.args | 18:14 |
| nsh | ty | 18:14 |
| kanzure | http://code.google.com/p/phantomjs/wiki/QuickStart | 18:14 |
| kanzure | http://code.google.com/p/phantomjs/wiki/Interface | 18:14 |
| kanzure | iirc the main object you want is Phantom from https://github.com/kanzure/pyphantomjs/blob/master/pyphantomjs/phantom.py | 18:15 |
| kanzure | and there's a sample __main__ here: https://github.com/kanzure/pyphantomjs/blob/master/pyphantomjs/pyphantomjs.py | 18:16 |
| nsh | right | 18:16 |
| kanzure | iirc there should be some way to access elements on the page from the WebPage.m_mainFrame object.. | 18:18 |
| kanzure | something like m_mainFrame.document.findFirst("#some-crappy-div-id") | 18:19 |
| kanzure | oops | 18:19 |
| kanzure | something like m_mainFrame.documentElement().findFirst("#some-crappy-div-id") | 18:19 |
| kanzure | which will return a QWebElementsomething | 18:19 |
| nsh | hmm | 18:20 |
| nsh | ok | 18:20 |
| kanzure | also there's some people in #phantomjs at the moment that you can complain to | 18:22 |
| kanzure | and #qtwebkit | 18:22 |
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| nmz787 | kanzure: do you know ppl in austin with machine shop capabilities for the laser CNC? | 20:20 |
| nmz787 | for building it | 20:20 |
| nsh | oh, you have a laser CNC? | 20:21 |
| nmz787 | no | 20:24 |
| nmz787 | i wanna build one | 20:24 |
| kanzure | i don't presently have access to machining capabilities here in austin | 20:27 |
| kanzure | except through mom or les | 20:27 |
| nsh | no austin hackerspaces with machine tools? | 20:37 |
| kanzure | atx hackerspace doesn't have many | 20:37 |
| nsh | borrow a school? | 20:37 |
| kanzure | huh? no there are others besides the school's | 20:37 |
| kanzure | i think he was asking which ones ih ave access to | 20:37 |
| kanzure | there's also atx dev center | 20:37 |
| nsh | k | 20:38 |
| nmz787 | hmm | 20:58 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: does your mom ever cut metal though? | 20:58 |
| kanzure | nope | 20:59 |
| kanzure | it's a little out of the way, it's unrealistic | 20:59 |
| nmz787 | oh | 20:59 |
| nmz787 | who's les? | 20:59 |
| kanzure | les was the guy who was originally doing austin hackerspace or austin techshop | 20:59 |
| kanzure | but then austin hackerspace showed up and started using his space | 20:59 |
| nmz787 | hmm | 21:00 |
| nmz787 | well Intel said they require chandni to graduate or something before she would start working there | 21:01 |
| nmz787 | sooo, if they don't budge on that, doesn't look like we're going to portland | 21:01 |
| nmz787 | have you heard of genewiz.com? | 21:02 |
| kanzure | no | 21:03 |
| nmz787 | sent them a resume | 21:03 |
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| yashgaroth | oh I used to get primers from genewiz | 21:25 |
| yashgaroth | or was it sequencing...well whatever they were good at it | 21:26 |
| nmz787 | well lets see if they even get back to me | 21:26 |
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| nsh | good luck, nmz787 | 21:36 |
| nsh | was it your birthday last month, btw, nmz787? | 21:37 |
| nmz787 | yeah | 21:37 |
| nsh | ok | 21:37 |
| nmz787 | how did you know? | 21:37 |
| yashgaroth | ohhh I just got it | 21:37 |
| nsh | nmz787 :) | 21:37 |
| nsh | not too opaque | 21:37 |
| nmz787 | oh | 21:37 |
| nmz787 | right | 21:37 |
| nmz787 | :P | 21:37 |
| nsh | and what's your mother's maiden name? | 21:37 |
| yashgaroth | and I will venture a guess you're 25 | 21:37 |
| nsh | :P | 21:37 |
| nmz787 | OMG you guys are mind readers | 21:38 |
| nsh | we do out best | 21:38 |
| nmz787 | lemme give you my bank acct #s | 21:38 |
| yashgaroth | or 34 I suppose | 21:38 |
| nsh | oh yeah | 21:38 |
| nsh | no-one's 34 though | 21:38 |
| yashgaroth | very true | 21:38 |
| nsh | half life is 32 | 21:38 |
| nsh | and the wildlings don't get irc | 21:38 |
| nmz787 | yeah actually my bday is july 8th 2007 | 21:39 |
| nmz787 | i'm kinda smrt for my age | 21:39 |
| nsh | nice | 21:39 |
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| nsh | ?? | 21:39 |
| nsh | how do you join a channel immediately before pinging out | 21:39 |
| nsh | that doesn't science... | 21:39 |
| yashgaroth | mok is our resident wizard | 21:39 |
| nsh | ah ok | 21:40 |
| nsh | wizards are omniexplicatory | 21:40 |
| jrayhawk | timeouts aren't synchronized | 21:42 |
| joshcryer | kanzure, btw, that Eye on Space sim got MSL's landing to within 6/10ths of a second. Don't underestimate the sim! | 21:49 |
| nsh | MSL? | 21:52 |
| nsh | oh | 21:52 |
| nsh | nice | 21:52 |
| nsh | not too non-linear a trajectory really though | 21:52 |
| nsh | i mean, they could do the math accurately enough with 70's processing and telecomms tech | 21:53 |
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| joshcryer | http://thechive.com/2012/08/09/self-portraits-done-to-a-different-drug-every-day-45-photos/ | 22:09 |
| joshcryer | I call art and not scientific exploration. | 22:09 |
| yashgaroth | "computer duster" oh dear | 22:10 |
| klafka1 | dammit | 22:12 |
| klafka1 | don't huff duster | 22:12 |
| klafka1 | seen this though | 22:12 |
| klafka1 | i think it's a bit much to say that marijuana hash and BTHO are all different | 22:13 |
| klafka1 | also he also apparently huffs gas | 22:13 |
| yashgaroth | also "g13" marijuana | 22:14 |
| yashgaroth | there's also a glaring lack of lsd | 22:14 |
| klafka1 | yeah | 22:14 |
| tashoutang | to Kanzure:sorry , are you a biologist or a computer scientist? | 22:17 |
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| klafka1 | why not both?! | 22:19 |
| tashoutang | of course! | 22:19 |
| tashoutang | yeah | 22:19 |
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| tashoutang | it is cool! | 22:21 |
| nsh | oh | 22:26 |
| nsh | hey | 22:26 |
| ParahSailin | 你好 | 22:27 |
| nsh | kanzure, another to add to your auction site aggregator: | 22:27 |
| nsh | http://www.liquidation.com/c/ipad.html | 22:27 |
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| nsh | first i've heard of the matter | 22:31 |
| nmz787 | there also this http://www.trinity.edu/jdunn/spiderdrugs.htm | 22:32 |
| nsh | the speed web is pretty arty | 22:33 |
| nmz787 | i'm pretty sure his crystal meth pic should look a lot more like adderal | 22:33 |
| nmz787 | basically this is much more subjective than the spider test | 22:34 |
| nmz787 | no ether either | 22:35 |
| yashgaroth | I still prefer the video version of the spider drug test | 22:35 |
| nsh | man, you guys have a lot of pharms | 22:35 |
| yashgaroth | we guys? | 22:35 |
| nsh | the us | 22:35 |
| yashgaroth | most of those were prescription | 22:36 |
| nsh | i worry when drug dealers offer prescription drugs | 22:36 |
| nsh | doesn't happen in the uk much though | 22:36 |
| nsh | most people stick to tried, tested, and totally illegal | 22:37 |
| yashgaroth | pretty sure you can get all that stuff in camden bruv | 22:37 |
| ParahSailin | prescription drugs like desoxyn, cocaine, morphine? | 22:37 |
| * nsh smiles | 22:37 | |
| nsh | i don't even know what desoxyn is | 22:38 |
| ParahSailin | methamphetamine | 22:38 |
| nsh | medical grade cocaine would go down a treat though | 22:38 |
| nsh | ah | 22:38 |
| nmz787 | drug laws suck | 22:40 |
| klafka1 | nmz787 it's suuuper subjective | 22:40 |
| klafka1 | especially considering that most of these drugs are very similar | 22:41 |
| klafka1 | (opioids) | 22:41 |
| nmz787 | subjective to the country? | 22:41 |
| klafka1 | no to the time they did the drug | 22:41 |
| nmz787 | oh | 22:41 |
| nmz787 | you mean the 'art' | 22:41 |
| klafka1 | yeah | 22:41 |
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