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| nmz787 | I wonder if you can cross site script on kickstarter comments | 00:02 |
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| brownies | that is some impressive typing for a guy who is sleeping | 00:08 |
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| foucist | brownies: that's what amphetamines do to you | 01:09 |
| brownies | foucist: haha | 01:24 |
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| Lucas__ | is anyone here going to the world Maker Faire? | 05:07 |
| ThomasEgi | if you pay me all expenses i might concidder it. | 05:12 |
| Lucas__ | where do live, we might be able to work something out :P | 05:12 |
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| kanzure | nmz787: kickstarter probably checks for xss vulnerabilities on their site ;) | 08:41 |
| kanzure | brownies: i think at this point someone should do a phantomjs/kickstarter thing, since nobody understands it. | 08:56 |
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| kanzure | oh weird, i wonder if i was getting endnote confused with evernote. | 10:28 |
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| docl | http://www.materialstoday.com/listen/261/genetically-evolved-semiconductors/ | 10:28 |
| docl | Talks about how they evolve genes to create metal nanostructures. | 10:29 |
| chris_99 | sounds intriguing | 10:31 |
| docl | yeah. he does a really good job of explaining it in layman-friendly terms too. | 10:31 |
| kanzure | foucist: i don't have a kickstarter project. what you talking about? | 10:32 |
| kanzure | bkero: how did the rackspace thing go? | 10:32 |
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| kanzure | how do i contact mike darwin? does anyone have a phone number? | 10:37 |
| bkero | kanzure: Turned them down, offer wasn't good enough. | 10:38 |
| kanzure | i figured that would happen with them. | 10:38 |
| kanzure | well, amazon might offer more, but under no circumstances should you work for amazon | 10:39 |
| kanzure | mozilla might call your bluff on that one :) | 10:39 |
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| kanzure | oh look a possibly good post from darkvegeta26 http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/2012/09/comprehensive-copying-not-required-for-uploading/ | 10:50 |
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| nmz787 | kanzure: seems like we could 'speed up' brain activity if we simply altered our perception of time | 10:57 |
| nmz787 | :P | 10:57 |
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| docl | nmz787, sounds simple :P | 11:06 |
| kanzure | nmz787: so i'm doing the math, | 11:09 |
| kanzure | and it looks like diybio-austin has about 21 people | 11:09 |
| kanzure | i'm not sure i want to run a meeting, but they should still know each other. | 11:09 |
| foucist | kanzure: don't you think that's something you should rectify? ;) | 11:10 |
| kanzure | foucist: the meeting thing or kickstarter thing? | 11:10 |
| foucist | kick it to the curb | 11:11 |
| foucist | the latter | 11:12 |
| kanzure | kick what to the curb? | 11:12 |
| brownies | kanzure: eh? | 11:15 |
| brownies | kanzure: oh, something to teach people how to use phantomjs? | 11:15 |
| kanzure | brownies: yes. | 11:15 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: i think you're great to run a meeting... you'll either come off as a grouchy old man, or a crazy mad scientist coder dude who knows a shitload and will linkdump on you if you ask dumb questions | 11:15 |
| kanzure | nmz787: yeah, but that takes, like, effort | 11:16 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: nah, just half-ass it | 11:16 |
| kanzure | and then i'd have to host people at my house or at some lame restaurant, or i'd have to go to the hackerspace | 11:16 |
| nmz787 | with half an ass/brain, you're still a cut above the rest | 11:16 |
| kanzure | thanks :) | 11:16 |
| nmz787 | well, yes if you don't want people in your house you'll have to go out | 11:16 |
| foucist | or put out | 11:17 |
| nmz787 | the hackerspace a problem/bad vibes? | 11:17 |
| kanzure | no the hackerspace isn't a problem.. | 11:17 |
| kanzure | i'm just not sure what the point is, is all | 11:17 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: sometimes you don't know the point... but figure its a data survey for yourself | 11:18 |
| nmz787 | you're patrolling the community | 11:18 |
| nmz787 | etc | 11:18 |
| nmz787 | :D | 11:18 |
| nmz787 | you're a mean DIYbio bouncer! | 11:18 |
| kanzure | "data survey" isn't a good enough reason for me | 11:21 |
| nmz787 | i dunno then, community spirit? | 11:23 |
| brownies | get a company to sponsor it, then the reason is "free food" | 11:32 |
| brownies | is that a good reason? | 11:32 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: http://www.dnatools.com/ | 11:32 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: seems uPenn uses that at their core facility | 11:32 |
| kanzure | brownies: yes that is an acceptable reason | 11:33 |
| nmz787 | "Supporting Applications: | 11:35 |
| nmz787 | Apache Web Server Ver. 1.3+ | 11:35 |
| nmz787 | Perl 5.005+" | 11:35 |
| nmz787 | hmm, I think my company's website should feature pics of me being badass, I guess it works for this guy http://www.dnatools.com/vietnam.html | 11:36 |
| brownies | kanzure: well, there you go then | 11:36 |
| kanzure | daah "RequireJS manages load dependencies, not packages. It does not install and update them." | 11:38 |
| kanzure | brownies: if there's javascript package management stuff that i am missing out on, i'm gonna be pretty angry | 11:39 |
| kanzure | i'm 98% sure that there isn't | 11:39 |
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| kanzure | i mean, for front-end stuff. | 11:41 |
| brownies | kanzure: we use requireJS. why would you want to auto-update packages? most JS devs barely know enough math to write down a version number. | 11:43 |
| brownies | once you get something working with one version of a JS lib... you never, ever update that lib. | 11:43 |
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| chris_99 | can anyone recommend a book on Bioinformatics | 12:08 |
| kanzure | http://bioinformatics.org/wiki/Books | 12:08 |
| chris_99 | cheers | 12:08 |
| brownies | heh, nice. | 12:13 |
| kanzure | brownies: is there any reason to work at facebook? | 12:13 |
| kanzure | since they're post-ipo, i'm not sure it's worth tolerating their stack | 12:14 |
| brownies | kanzure: perhaps you love PHP and you love drinking zuckerberg's strange brand of kool-aid? | 12:14 |
| kanzure | brownies: also, i just got recruiter-blasted by 'first round capital'. do you know them? | 12:18 |
| nmz787 | hmm, so open source hardware summit is sold out | 12:21 |
| nmz787 | i thought about going | 12:21 |
| nmz787 | i guess i wasnt as sure as the people who bought up all the tix | 12:21 |
| nmz787 | jmil is giving a talk | 12:21 |
| nmz787 | i guess i'll just try to meet up with him otherwise | 12:22 |
| kanzure | nmz787: just walk in | 12:22 |
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| kanzure | what are they going to do, call the police | 12:22 |
| kanzure | ? | 12:22 |
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| kanzure | nmz787: just take lots of transcripts | 12:23 |
| nmz787 | hmm | 12:23 |
| nmz787 | yeah i dunno | 12:23 |
| nmz787 | i suck at transcription | 12:24 |
| nmz787 | (in the typing sense, not protein expression) | 12:24 |
| brownies | kanzure: yeah, i know of them. curious, what did they say? | 12:25 |
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| kanzure | brownies: it was actually a very well-formed email, i am impressed | 12:27 |
| kanzure | brownies: sent | 12:28 |
| brownies | thanks, looking | 12:29 |
| brownies | kanzure: yeah, wow. quite well done. | 12:30 |
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| kanzure | brownies: did you check the links? heh | 12:38 |
| kanzure | http://blog.artillery.com/2012/07/six-impossible-problems.html | 12:38 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: do different resolution of assets still require separate files? | 12:40 |
| kanzure | uh it depens on how you are making things work | 12:41 |
| kanzure | some assets are generated dynamically (by algorithms) | 12:41 |
| kanzure | some assets can be modified in-flight by a server | 12:41 |
| nmz787 | i thought I read years ago about a downsampling technique that required only a high-res version of content. but could stream out whatever res depending on bandwidth | 12:41 |
| nmz787 | and i think it was supposed to be able to change on the fly | 12:41 |
| kanzure | most ios/android apps keep multiple copies of files in different resolutions in the app's package | 12:41 |
| nmz787 | hmm | 12:41 |
| nmz787 | it seems that nature/physics works the way i'm describing | 12:42 |
| kanzure | in mobile you don't always want to rely on the processor, because things are already slow enough that any additional delay will cause users to throw their device out a window | 12:42 |
| nmz787 | at least if you think in terms of lens size vs resolution available | 12:42 |
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| nmz787 | well I guess i'm talking specifically about server side things, video was the exact context i /think/ i read about this in | 12:43 |
| ThomasEgi | one thing about browser games is the more or less direct hardware access through the browser. there have been multiple exploits about this already. | 12:43 |
| kanzure | nmz787: as far as i know, youtube encodes their videos in multiple formats, and then just streams you the format that you ask for | 12:43 |
| kanzure | nmz787: so they aren't doing real-time encoding or real-time downsampling | 12:43 |
| kanzure | ThomasEgi: yeah i want to see more webgl exploits, i think they would be a lot of fun to see in the wild | 12:44 |
| ThomasEgi | kanzure, there are also ways to encode images so they start at low resolutions. i think a jpeg variant also works like that | 12:44 |
| ThomasEgi | in the end it's not all that difficult to fix all those problems. but the browser part scares me shitless. i mean. all those tracking mechanism and regular exploits already, ontop of all browser vounariblity. and then direct hardware access to the gpu-memory.. | 12:46 |
| ThomasEgi | ouch. | 12:46 |
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| brownies | kanzure: heh. nice link. | 12:46 |
| kanzure | ThomasEgi: it would be fun to see some sort of exploit based on cracking passwords with gpgpu, except through unsuspecting browsers/users | 12:46 |
| kanzure | brownies: apparently that's one of their companies | 12:46 |
| nmz787 | hmm browser zombie nets | 12:47 |
| ThomasEgi | gpu-computing browser zombie botnets.. great. | 12:47 |
| ThomasEgi | absolutely great | 12:47 |
| ThomasEgi | isn't that what we invented computers for? | 12:47 |
| nmz787 | pretty much | 12:47 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | I thought we created them for porn | 12:47 |
| kanzure | no we created computers for ultraporn | 12:48 |
| ThomasEgi | Mokbortolan_1, nah. that only got the bills paid | 12:48 |
| nmz787 | except that not everyone has equal access to the botnets like in total distibuted computer nets | 12:48 |
| nmz787 | zombify floding @ home | 12:48 |
| nmz787 | folding* | 12:48 |
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| nmz787 | "world gets PWMed, next age of synBio is ushered in" | 12:49 |
| nmz787 | urgh | 12:49 |
| nmz787 | PWNed | 12:49 |
| nmz787 | too much motion control lately i guess | 12:49 |
| ThomasEgi | suddenly... jump in electricity demand, worldwide | 12:50 |
| kanzure | so daeken's png+html thing was pretty neat: | 12:50 |
| kanzure | http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/squirrel/ | 12:50 |
| kanzure | er wait, daeken's version: http://demoseen.com/windowpane/magister.png.html | 12:51 |
| kanzure | or http://demoseen.com/windowpane/nufl0wer.png.html | 12:51 |
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| ThomasEgi | hm i just found out that firefox has a 3d-website inspector to visualize the frames. pretty neat | 12:52 |
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| kanzure | ThomasEgi: yeah they have this new command line thing | 12:52 |
| kanzure | but i think firebug is still more helpful, except it's slower than chrome's web inspector.. | 12:53 |
| kanzure | oooh oooooh | 12:55 |
| kanzure | http://nic.su/ | 12:55 |
| kanzure | soviet union novelty domains | 12:55 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: I like the last link | 12:55 |
| kanzure | http://science.su/ | 12:56 |
| kanzure | $20/year | 12:57 |
| kanzure | for a domain name | 12:57 |
| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.su | 12:57 |
| delinquentme | http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/03/120326160651.htm | 13:04 |
| kanzure | no! no news blogs for you! gaaah | 13:04 |
| nmz787 | delinquentme: dude the pore they used comes from genital secretion bacteria | 13:06 |
| nmz787 | delinquentme: gross | 13:06 |
| nmz787 | lol | 13:06 |
| kanzure | can't you just link to the paper instead | 13:06 |
| kanzure | blah | 13:06 |
| nmz787 | "The researchers attached a molecular motor, taken from an enzyme associated with replication of a virus, to pull the DNA strand through the nanopore reader. The motor was first used in a similar effort by researchers at the University of California, Santa Cruz, but they used a different pore that could not distinguish the different nucleotide types." | 13:06 |
| kanzure | hahah http://kgb.su/ "Forbidden. You don't have permission to access / on this server." | 13:07 |
| nmz787 | http://www.nature.com/nbt/journal/v30/n4/full/nbt.2171.html | 13:07 |
| delinquentme | O_o; | 13:08 |
| nmz787 | well that is certainly next-gen and very cool, but I imagine setting it up is a PITA | 13:09 |
| nmz787 | so that's probably the hurdle they're going to have to focus on next | 13:09 |
| kanzure | paper: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bio/Reading%20DNA%20at%20single-nucleotide%20resolution%20with%20a%20mutant%20MspA%20nanopore%20and%20phi29%20DNA%20polymerase.pdf | 13:09 |
| delinquentme | how does someone come up with that choice ? | 13:09 |
| kanzure | supplement: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bio/Reading%20DNA%20at%20single-nucleotide%20resolution%20with%20a%20mutant%20MspA%20nanopore%20and%20phi29%20DNA%20polymerase%20-%20supplement.pdf | 13:09 |
| kanzure | blah they are both supplements | 13:10 |
| nmz787 | hmm, those traces look weird though | 13:10 |
| nmz787 | there are more than 4 levels | 13:10 |
| kanzure | now when i try to get http://www.nature.com/nbt/journal/v30/n4/full/nbt.2171.html it says 401 unauthorized | 13:11 |
| nmz787 | i have access | 13:11 |
| kanzure | can you give me the link to the pdf? | 13:11 |
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| nmz787 | i emailed you a dropbox share | 13:13 |
| kanzure | ok thanks | 13:14 |
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| nmz787 | kanzure: PM | 13:14 |
| kanzure | nmz787: i see you're using ezproxy now :) | 13:15 |
| nmz787 | ezproxy is through school | 13:15 |
| kanzure | yeah | 13:15 |
| nmz787 | i seem to have subconsciously planned on not graduating to continue having computer access | 13:16 |
| kanzure | it's a smart plan | 13:16 |
| kanzure | nmz787: so how about selling access to your account to pay back school debt? | 13:17 |
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| nmz787 | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4209052 | 13:24 |
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| nmz787 | hmm, this looks decent http://www.chromatography-online.org/Principles/Peak-Dispersion/rs43.html | 13:38 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: this one is really cool http://www.p01.org/releases/MATRAKA/matraka.png.html | 14:04 |
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| nmz787 | kanzure: http://h3.gd/ctrace/ | 14:13 |
| brownies | kanzure: so apparently yeoman uses bower | 14:21 |
| kanzure | hmm yeoman seems to have backbone/ember/angular generators. | 14:26 |
| kanzure | ew "yeoman init" asks questions in an interactive fashion? what a fucking disaster | 14:27 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: http://www.p01.org/releases/20_lines_Castle_Wolfenstein/ | 14:35 |
| nmz787 | is that actually 20 lines | 14:35 |
| nmz787 | or is it using some JS libs too | 14:35 |
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| kanzure | it's cramming a bunch of crap on to each line | 14:36 |
| kanzure | M.level+= 1-( M.updateCount= M.updateCount?( ( M.U>234&&M.V>224 )?0:1 ):alert( 'ENTER FLOOR '+ ( M.level +(M.keyDown.right=M.keyDown.left=M.keyDown.up=M.keyDown.down=M.keyDown.mapTouched=0) ) )||1 ); | 14:36 |
| kanzure | plus he's counting by statements, rather than actual lines (comment lines, curly-brace-only lines, whitespace lines, etc.) | 14:37 |
| brownies | kanzure: there's "yeoman init quickstart" or somesuch | 14:38 |
| kanzure | hrrm. | 14:39 |
| brownies | i can't believe i'm discussing this. i'm going to go back to yelling at SQL. | 14:39 |
| kanzure | so what's the advantage here? | 14:39 |
| brownies | kanzure: none. there is never an advantage to using JS. | 14:39 |
| kanzure | no i mean, yeoman doesn't seem to do much except copy/paste libraries into a folder? | 14:39 |
| brownies | kanzure: i believe the idea is that yeoman provides for nodejs what the rails script and bundler provide for rails | 14:39 |
| kanzure | like if i generate a new backbone model, the bootstrap stuff isn't written for me. | 14:39 |
| kanzure | no it looks like yeoman is for front-end-stuff only | 14:39 |
| brownies | kanzure: well, if you're building one of them fancy "single-page apps" or whatever the kids call it these days, then... yeoman takes care of all the things. | 14:40 |
| kanzure | it doesn't look like it | 14:40 |
| brownies | i believe this is the value proposition, anyway. as you point it, it probably does so incompetently. | 14:40 |
| brownies | because, again, it was written by JS devs for JS devs. -_- | 14:40 |
| kanzure | rails scaffolds let you type in attributes, and then it creates the things | 14:40 |
| kanzure | yeoman does not seem to do this | 14:40 |
| brownies | well, no one uses rails scaffolding anyway. | 14:41 |
| brownies | unless by "scaffold" you were also referring to all the non-scaffold generators | 14:41 |
| brownies | kanzure: btw... what bootstrap stuff would you want generated for a backbone model? o.O | 14:42 |
| kanzure | brownies: oh, you know. html stuff. | 14:42 |
| brownies | kanzure: haha | 14:43 |
| kanzure | brownies: maybe i am just being lazy about backbone views | 14:45 |
| kanzure | oh this is nice | 14:46 |
| kanzure | http://backbonetutorials.com/organizing-backbone-using-modules/ | 14:46 |
| kanzure | alright hten | 14:46 |
| kanzure | nmz787: what's dnanexus? | 15:07 |
| kanzure | ew just sequence byte pushing | 15:08 |
| nmz787 | umm | 15:25 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: looks like they crunch NGS data | 15:25 |
| nmz787 | collapse reads into contigs | 15:26 |
| kanzure | i see. | 15:26 |
| nmz787 | i heard RIT hired someone to do NGS type stuff, but then we don't have enough computers or something | 15:26 |
| nmz787 | which seems odd | 15:26 |
| nmz787 | i didn't think shotgun seqeuncing needed such stuff | 15:26 |
| kanzure | NGS alignment stuff is usually done in the cloud | 15:27 |
| kanzure | but maybe he had a hard time convincing them of this reality | 15:27 |
| nmz787 | dunno | 15:29 |
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| kanzure | Juul: yo | 16:18 |
| kanzure | http://www.questsin.com/2012/09/wolf-spider-biohacking-hack.html | 16:18 |
| kanzure | "It might turn out that feeding wolf spiders this way, might actually lead to considerable life extension." | 16:18 |
| brownies | kanzure: haha | 16:30 |
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| kanzure | hrrm. | 18:08 |
| kanzure | brownies: https://github.com/jspears/bobamo | 18:10 |
| kanzure | wtf is wrong with his commit messages. i hate him already. | 18:12 |
| brownies | i don't really understand the need for such things | 18:12 |
| brownies | but i guess, once you start buying into the notion that "we can build an entire web app with JS" then this sort of crap is inevitable. | 18:13 |
| kanzure | brownies: i sort of like the idea of dumping out a basic app based on your schema | 18:13 |
| kanzure | the "everything is in javascript" thing is not as appealing :) | 18:14 |
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| brownies | "Because the infrastructure is built at runtime, through intraspection of the Mongoose Model, no scaffolding required." | 18:15 |
| brownies | that's insane. must be retardedy inefficient. | 18:15 |
| brownies | "oh, you've requested the home page? hang on while i inspect the entire database schema." | 18:16 |
| kanzure | huh? | 18:16 |
| kanzure | i think that means "runtime when you run the tool" | 18:16 |
| kanzure | not per http request o_o | 18:16 |
| brownies | oh ok. i hope so. | 18:20 |
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| kanzure | oh yeoman is a google thing | 19:38 |
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| brownies | kanzure: what? isn't it an adobe thing? | 19:50 |
| kanzure | brownies: not according to http://github.com/yeoman/yeoman | 19:51 |
| nmz787 | jrayhawk: so i guess i'm heading to portland in about 4-5 weeks | 19:52 |
| jrayhawk | That's exciting. Did that Intel thing pan out okay? | 19:53 |
| nmz787 | i think so | 19:53 |
| nmz787 | i think portland is better for long-term life satisfaction than nyc | 19:54 |
| nmz787 | i am looking for part-time jobs there now on craigslist | 19:54 |
| brownies | just curious, why do you think that? | 19:54 |
| jrayhawk | Certainly easier access to natural settings. | 19:54 |
| nmz787 | brownies: i like a high plant to human ratio, and NYC is drastically low | 19:55 |
| nmz787 | yeah and I'm sortof a country boy at heart, i think (though I grew up in the city) | 19:56 |
| nmz787 | i at least like being in the wilds | 19:56 |
| nmz787 | and portland area has Wilderness (legally, note the capital W) within like 1 to 1.5 hrs | 19:56 |
| nmz787 | whereas around here, its.... many more hours | 19:57 |
| jrayhawk | jrayhawk@richardiv:~$ curl -O http://diybioforum.org/Nathan_McCorkle_resume_web.pdf | 19:57 |
| jrayhawk | curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'diybioforum.org' | 19:57 |
| jrayhawk | bah | 19:57 |
| nmz787 | no | 19:57 |
| nmz787 | that's been dead for a while | 19:57 |
| foucist | godaddy dns is down as well | 20:05 |
| nmz787 | jrayhawk: nathanmccorkle.com/resume_07_2012_craigslist.pdf | 20:06 |
| kanzure | foucist: still? hah! | 20:08 |
| foucist | kanzure: not sure actually, i was just reporting something i read on IRC! | 20:10 |
| jrayhawk | http://psba.pdx.edu/companies probably has some interesting opportunities | 20:12 |
| nmz787 | gonna send my resume to some kiddie tutor ppl | 20:14 |
| nmz787 | $16-20/hr the ad says | 20:14 |
| nmz787 | not bad to blabber about science | 20:14 |
| nmz787 | i do that for free anyway | 20:14 |
| jrayhawk | you could blabber about science in public fora and get paid even more | 20:15 |
| nmz787 | oh that's where we went for that meeting, right? | 20:15 |
| nmz787 | how so? | 20:15 |
| jrayhawk | Yeah. It's supposed to be a PSU incubator, but, like every higher learning organization in the metro area, it's apparently being hijacked by OHSU interests | 20:16 |
| jrayhawk | so lots of biotech stuff to play with | 20:16 |
| kanzure | nmz787: i can pay that, but i dunno if i can give you full time employment | 20:16 |
| yashgaroth | nmz787 are you sending that full 3-page resume to job openings? gotta trim dat shit down brah | 20:18 |
| kanzure | i'm not convinced about the cult of the short resume | 20:18 |
| foucist | nmz787: hey, looking @ your resume, i think your background should be broken up into smaller paragraphs, and the first line should be indented in, make it less of a wall of text.. also i think skills should be near the top.. smart employers care more about skills than education :P | 20:19 |
| yashgaroth | yeah but you're not the type to send your resume out to craigslistings kanz | 20:19 |
| nmz787 | yashgaroth: if people don't want to read a long resume i dont want to work for them really | 20:19 |
| kanzure | wait, craigslist? that's an awful idea. | 20:19 |
| foucist | also yeah, resumes aren't supposed to be longer than 2 pages.. | 20:19 |
| nmz787 | foucist: thanks | 20:19 |
| yashgaroth | hey I'm just basing it on his filename for it | 20:19 |
| kanzure | definitely, you could probably just delete your education section | 20:19 |
| kanzure | also delete coursework | 20:20 |
| foucist | ^ | 20:20 |
| foucist | just leave in the degree | 20:20 |
| nmz787 | well i could change the name to CV | 20:20 |
| foucist | and say something liek "fucking kicked ass in biotech!!" | 20:20 |
| kanzure | foucist: nope not even a degree | 20:20 |
| foucist | even better! | 20:20 |
| kanzure | i've been ass-raped by recruiters for the past 8 hours, and none of them even noticed the lack of a degree on my 7-page resume | 20:20 |
| foucist | kanzure: orly? show me your 7 page resume | 20:21 |
| kanzure | foucist: http://heybryan.org/resume.pdf | 20:21 |
| foucist | i really need to setup my linkedin profile properly | 20:21 |
| foucist | to get those recruiters | 20:21 |
| kanzure | linkedin is lame | 20:21 |
| kanzure | my linkedin profile is intentionally crippled | 20:22 |
| foucist | 90% recruiters use linkedin :P | 20:22 |
| foucist | where are your recruiters coming from then | 20:22 |
| foucist | github? | 20:22 |
| kanzure | the magic etherwebs | 20:22 |
| kanzure | i think i got into some sort of secret recruiter resume passing webring thing. | 20:22 |
| yashgaroth | after I friended kanzure I got a bunch of profile views from random programming recruiters | 20:22 |
| foucist | kanzure: s/Objective:/Passion: | 20:22 |
| kanzure | foucist: dude nobody reads this | 20:23 |
| kanzure | like already you've spent more time on this than the recruiters have | 20:23 |
| foucist | hah | 20:24 |
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| nmz787 | rllly delete educatiion and degree??? | 20:32 |
| nmz787 | just skillz and work history? | 20:32 |
| foucist | nmz787: yep | 20:33 |
| jrayhawk | i like making education last, but i am not sure it's a good idea to get rid of it entirely | 20:33 |
| kanzure | "Education: yep, i'ze gots one of those" | 20:35 |
| foucist | "The amazing self-educated man!" | 20:35 |
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| nmz787 | hmm | 20:38 |
| nmz787 | ok, i guess i can try that | 20:38 |
| nmz787 | the wall of text is nice, but it is TL;DR-ish | 20:38 |
| nmz787 | it might get me an A on some intro of myself english class b.s. | 20:39 |
| foucist | looking at a resume is more like a checklist.. people don't read it, they skim it and check to see if it matches their requirements etc | 20:40 |
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| nmz787 | kanzure: were you saying you would pay me to speak in a public fora about science? | 21:07 |
| kanzure | i don't recall the context | 21:07 |
| kanzure | this sounds unlikely? | 21:08 |
| nmz787 | nmz787: gonna send my resume to some kiddie tutor ppl | 21:08 |
| nmz787 | (11:14:40 PM) nmz787: $16-20/hr the ad says | 21:08 |
| nmz787 | (11:16:35 PM) kanzure: nmz787: i can pay that, but i dunno if i can give you full time employment | 21:08 |
| kanzure | what's this about speaking though?? | 21:08 |
| kanzure | i just meant your hourly rate :) | 21:08 |
| kanzure | i was implying that i could pay your hourly rate to have you do things | 21:09 |
| kanzure | paying you to speak in public is not at all on my priority list | 21:09 |
| nmz787 | ok | 21:09 |
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| skorket | hey all | 21:23 |
| nmz787 | hi skorket | 21:26 |
| skorket | hey nmz787, how's it going? | 21:27 |
| nmz787 | skorket: pretty good, had to travel this weekend to take care of material possesions in storage upstate | 21:33 |
| skorket | whereabouts in upstate? | 21:33 |
| nmz787 | rochester | 21:33 |
| nmz787 | got some test leads today, should have the laser and power supply tomorrow | 21:34 |
| skorket | interesting. I'm in ithaca | 21:34 |
| nmz787 | oo | 21:34 |
| skorket | test leads for what? | 21:34 |
| nmz787 | cool | 21:34 |
| nmz787 | just banana plug to minigrabber, banana to alligator clips | 21:34 |
| nmz787 | to clip onto the laser diode | 21:34 |
| skorket | what laser diode did you get? | 21:35 |
| skorket | I know I already asked you but I forget already | 21:35 |
| nmz787 | got this power supply http://www.amazon.com/Sinometer-HY3005D-Variable-Linear-Supply/dp/B000E14F56/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1347338106&sr=8-8&keywords=mastech+power+supply | 21:35 |
| skorket | ah, nice. I need to get one of those someday soon | 21:35 |
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| nmz787 | laser https://sites.google.com/site/dtrlpf/home/diodes/s06j-12x-405-diodes | 21:35 |
| nmz787 | yeah the power supply is a bit expensive for just driving the laser, but I need one anyway since I'm working with the microcontrollers and motor controllers and motors, etc, etc... so I'll make good use of it | 21:36 |
| skorket | Very cool. I wonder if it's almost cheaper to just buy a blu ray player and rip out the diode | 21:36 |
| nmz787 | i actually have a really nice bio-rad power supply in storage too, for doing huge sequencing slab electrophoresis | 21:37 |
| nmz787 | current controlled and everything, but its about the size of a computer tower | 21:37 |
| skorket | Yeah, I keep needing to buy buck converters or dedicated power supplies. I should just break down and buy that thing | 21:37 |
| nmz787 | and goes to kilovolts :P which I dont need | 21:37 |
| skorket | so you have the hardware? | 21:38 |
| nmz787 | yeah i'm gonna get a blu-ray writer too | 21:38 |
| nmz787 | for the CNC? | 21:38 |
| nmz787 | not yet | 21:38 |
| brownies | nmz787: oh i see. that's fair. | 21:38 |
| nmz787 | brownies: hmm? | 21:38 |
| brownies | your tree-to-city ratio, or whatever it was. | 21:39 |
| nmz787 | skorket: i want to try using the writer optics, but am worried about heat transfer | 21:39 |
| nmz787 | brownies: ahh :D | 21:39 |
| nmz787 | and the guy that sells the diodes by themselves said on some forum post that you can break them during extraction from drives... so... yeah, good to have an extra | 21:40 |
| skorket | as in cooling the diode? | 21:40 |
| nmz787 | yeah | 21:41 |
| nmz787 | i heard they're used in pulsed mode for writing | 21:41 |
| nmz787 | but i want it to be full duty | 21:41 |
| skorket | It's probably better to go with the known good then to go experimenting to begin with. | 21:41 |
| skorket | ah, interesting. | 21:41 |
| skorket | What hardware are you going to get? | 21:41 |
| nmz787 | well the writer is done as far as beam correction and focusing | 21:41 |
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| nmz787 | so that's what's attractive about using it as-is in the drive 'sled' | 21:42 |
| nmz787 | hardware for CNC or for optics | 21:42 |
| nmz787 | ? | 21:42 |
| skorket | I was wondering about the CNC but I'm curious about the optics as well | 21:42 |
| nmz787 | http://diyhpl.us/laser_etcher/laser_etcher/ | 21:43 |
| nmz787 | there's a google doc embedded there | 21:43 |
| skorket | oh right, you guys keep linking me to that, sorry | 21:43 |
| skorket | I keep forgetting that you're going to do this from scratch | 21:43 |
| nmz787 | no one online that i've found has tried just turning up the power on a blu-ray writer | 21:44 |
| skorket | yeah, you guys are doing something novel | 21:44 |
| nmz787 | i think its because the average focal length is something like 600 microns | 21:44 |
| nmz787 | so not of interest to kiddies who want to pop balloons from across the room | 21:45 |
| nmz787 | but it might be fine for etching thin silicone like i want | 21:45 |
| skorket | 1.5875 microns per step at full stepping. Much more if you microstepping at all | 21:48 |
| skorket | *do | 21:48 |
| skorket | ah, whoops, there it is right underneath | 21:48 |
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| Steel2 | kanzure: who all do we have here working on bleeding edge lab stuff besides jmil? | 21:50 |
| skorket | What's the beam diameter coming out of the diode? | 21:52 |
| kanzure | Steel2: it depends on how you squint. | 21:53 |
| kanzure | Steel2: genehacker does a lot of reflectometry stuff i think | 21:53 |
| Steel2 | how many people do we have with Dr. or MS next to their names? :P | 21:54 |
| kanzure | i haven't been keping track of that | 21:54 |
| kanzure | *keeping | 21:54 |
| Steel2 | ah, k. | 21:55 |
| nmz787 | skorket: I think its around 1mm | 21:57 |
| nmz787 | skorket: but i'm going to find out this week | 21:57 |
| skorket | sorry for all the stupid questions, but how are you going to go about doing that? | 21:57 |
| kanzure | doh "yyyy-mm-dd" is called "big endian" for a reason i guess. | 22:03 |
| kanzure | er what am i saying. iso 8601. right. | 22:03 |
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| nmz787 | skorket: probably just with calipers | 22:18 |
| nmz787 | put a piece of paper in front of the diode and take a picture next to a ruler or something | 22:19 |
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| nmz787 | what do you guys think of beer? | 23:38 |
| nmz787 | i like drinking it sometimes | 23:39 |
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| joshcryer | Eh, I'm more of a Vodka guy. | 23:43 |
| joshcryer | But I like the taste of beer. | 23:44 |
| joshcryer | Boilermakers are the best. | 23:44 |
| nmz787 | well i mean health wise | 23:47 |
| nmz787 | hplus-wise | 23:47 |
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| joshcryer | Oh, I'm not too health conscious but alcohol has shown its benefits. | 23:53 |
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