| --- Log opened Fri Sep 28 00:00:29 2012 | ||
| --- Day changed Fri Sep 28 2012 | ||
| @kanzure | On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 1:53 AM, Lisa Thalheim <lthalheim@googlemail.com> wrote: | 00:00 |
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| @kanzure | > example. Some of the mails sent to this list by someone named | 00:00 |
| @kanzure | > "Reason", promoting a clearly transhumanist agenda, may serve as | 00:00 |
| @kanzure | man i get no love | 00:00 |
| @kanzure | > references. | 00:00 |
| archels | roger | 00:01 |
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| brownies | your name is "Reason" | 00:06 |
| brownies | ? | 00:06 |
| brownies | i thought it was "Bryan" | 00:06 |
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| @kanzure | brownies: my name is not "Reason" | 00:06 |
| @kanzure | "Reason" is just the fightaging.org guy | 00:06 |
| @kanzure | but for some reason lisa associates that guy with transhumanism more than me | 00:06 |
| @kanzure | i'm more active in the biohacking community than he is | 00:06 |
| @kanzure | so why would she associate him with transhumanism more than me? :p | 00:06 |
| strangewarp | Because, from a narrative-building perspective, a person who calls himself "Reason" seems more apt to be a representative of transhumanists, as it fits all the cliches | 00:07 |
| @kanzure | well obviously i should change my name to SuperBatman | 00:08 |
| strangewarp | Wrong. If you want to wield the narrative cliches, change your name to NanoGenetix and wear a pair of Google Glasses everywhere. | 00:09 |
| @kanzure | ok wait, i mean ssj4superbatman | 00:09 |
| @kanzure | darkssj4superbatman | 00:09 |
| brownies | you have to one-up reason | 00:10 |
| brownies | call yourself "Faith" | 00:10 |
| strangewarp | ha! | 00:10 |
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| nmz787 | yeah whatever | 00:33 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: you stirred him up | 00:34 |
| nmz787 | ok so he's been on the list for 7 days | 00:35 |
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| bjonnh | Hi | 01:20 |
| archels | oh, kanzure | 01:52 |
| archels | you get -1 karma for linking to adafruit | 01:53 |
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| @kanzure | archels: okay | 07:02 |
| @kanzure | i accept this shame | 07:02 |
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| @kanzure | http://securityreactions.tumblr.com/ | 08:11 |
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| brownies | what's wrong with adafruit? | 08:35 |
| brownies | maybe the most hilarious use of this image ever http://securityreactions.tumblr.com/post/32260009264/when-you-find-too-much-data-on-the-client-side-during-a | 08:36 |
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| @kanzure | jrayhawk: so why not just have gut bacteria that eat up wheats? | 10:09 |
| jrayhawk | Prolamines take a while to digest even if you have the right enzymes; they'd still be wreaking havoc on the enterocytes. | 10:33 |
| jrayhawk | It's possible we can remove or turn off the gene for expressing CXCR3, but that's probably going to have a lot of unpleasant consequences. | 10:34 |
| jrayhawk | and there may be other receptors involved | 10:34 |
| jrayhawk | There's also the question why bother eating grains in the first place. Even leaving aside the autoimmune/sepsis/opiod activity, they're incredibly nutrient deficient, ecologically harmful, and expensive. | 10:36 |
| jrayhawk | Fermentation (i.e. pre-digestion) and sprouting have been used in a few ancestral communities to at least reduce the level of harm grains do, but not compellingly so. | 10:37 |
| jrayhawk | For more information on bad mitigation ideas, visit the Weston A. Price Foundation. | 10:38 |
| brownies | ...was that an infomercial? | 10:38 |
| jrayhawk | no, WAPF actually endorses sprouting and fermentation | 10:39 |
| brownies | heh | 10:39 |
| brownies | wasn't the original value of grains to provide a consistent stationary food source? | 10:40 |
| brownies | grains don't wander around the country, like, say, buffalo | 10:40 |
| jrayhawk | The original value of grains is that they're so poisonous that nothing else will eat them. | 10:40 |
| jrayhawk | Thus they can be stored all year long in graneries | 10:40 |
| brownies | what about rats 'n' stuff? | 10:43 |
| jrayhawk | Rats'll eat it. They seem to be evolved to live short, garbage-eating lives. | 10:44 |
| jrayhawk | Actually I guess I don't know if they do eat modern whole grains. That's an interesting question. | 10:45 |
| jrayhawk | Typically when we cultivate for yield, we're increasing the harmful protein constituent. | 10:46 |
| jrayhawk | To the point that even birds don't much care for our modern wheat | 10:47 |
| jrayhawk | yeah, looks like rodents still do | 10:49 |
| jrayhawk | kanzure: oh yeah, and gut flora aren't really supposed to have much presence in the small intestine anyway | 10:51 |
| brownies | that's a depressing thought | 10:51 |
| @kanzure | yeah i think my "use gut flora" go-to answer might have to be updated a bit. | 10:51 |
| jrayhawk | brownies: you can read stuff by joel salatin to feel better about agriculture | 10:52 |
| brownies | what i really need to solve is the cooking problem | 10:53 |
| jrayhawk | kanzure: it's probably pretty easy to improve fermentive efficiency | 10:53 |
| brownies | specifically, the problem that i am too lazy to cook, but most prepared food is carb-heavy | 10:53 |
| brownies | after that, i'll have time to assuage my feelings about agriculture | 10:53 |
| jrayhawk | my solution is to buy a three gallon pot and throw most of my grocery list into it and simmer it for 24 hours | 10:53 |
| jrayhawk | boom, food for a week that I can pad out with greens and coconut oil | 10:54 |
| @kanzure | brownies: perhaps you should ascribe to the "giant blender" theory of cooking. | 11:05 |
| jrayhawk | generally you want digestion to be a slow process | 11:08 |
| jrayhawk | having all your food enter your bloodstream at once has some unfortunate consequences | 11:08 |
| brownies | giant blender + tiny sppon, then. | 11:09 |
| brownies | *spoon. dammit. | 11:10 |
| jrayhawk | Gastric timing won't be amenable to that. | 11:11 |
| brownies | heh. i'm just joking. i actually did buy a slow cooker. | 11:11 |
| brownies | now i just need things to put in it, and then a place to put the resulting soup | 11:11 |
| jrayhawk | your mouth. ALL OF IT IN YOUR MOUTH. | 11:12 |
| jrayhawk | aum nyaum nyaum | 11:12 |
| brownies | hah | 11:15 |
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| @kanzure | https://github.com/CubeSpawn/3-Axis-CubeMill | 12:45 |
| chris_99 | is anyone into model rocketry per chance? | 13:07 |
| @kanzure | i prefer the real ones. sorry. | 13:08 |
| @kanzure | (kidding) | 13:08 |
| chris_99 | heh, well i was just looking at this https://www.eclipserocketry.com/catalog/index.php and it uses those little nitrous oxide capsules | 13:09 |
| chris_99 | but i can't work out how you'd crack that and then simulataneously ignite it | 13:09 |
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| @kanzure | huh, that's amusing. biobrick foundation's conference is just a giant whiteboard that they gather around. | 15:44 |
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| @kanzure | yashgaroth: hi | 17:03 |
| yashgaroth | yo | 17:03 |
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| @kanzure | doh https://github.com/kanzure/nanoengineer#readme | 17:34 |
| @kanzure | the images are getting lost because github cdn didn't catch them all | 17:35 |
| @kanzure | and nanoengineer-1.net has gone offline | 17:35 |
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| Urchin | wow, this server I'm using to run irc actually has git | 17:46 |
| Urchin | *irc client | 17:46 |
| Urchin | I think one of the admins required it a long time ago | 17:47 |
| @kanzure | i've posted a temporary fix that i will get around to committing: | 17:52 |
| @kanzure | https://github.com/kanzure/nanoengineer/issues/4 | 17:52 |
| gnusha | nanoengineer.git: 4fe8e04 update comments to point to ne1_startup/ instead of startup/ | 18:30 |
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| @kanzure | tim schmidt is trying to convince me that thingdoc is a working version of skdb (or something) | 19:21 |
| @kanzure | but i don't see the resemblance. it seems to render TeX documentation. | 19:21 |
| @kanzure | For the love of god, don't pull this. | 19:31 |
| @kanzure | https://github.com/kanzure/nanoengineer/tree/mocking | 19:32 |
| @kanzure | main.py runs in python2.6 without trouble and without the gui | 19:32 |
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| sseehh_ | hi kanzure noticed the a few emails about skdb | 19:36 |
| @kanzure | okay. | 19:36 |
| sseehh_ | anything new with skdb? | 19:36 |
| @kanzure | i don't remember you or what you would consider new. | 19:36 |
| sseehh_ | thats ok im seeing if theres any new developments since i last looked at it over 1yr ago | 19:37 |
| @kanzure | nope, people continue to ignore the call for comments on the packaging spec. | 19:37 |
| sseehh_ | kanzure: well i still consider it an important project and would like to see it or something like it developed | 19:38 |
| sseehh_ | so at the least, thanks for conceptualizing | 19:38 |
| @kanzure | can you clarify? you came in here to thank me, but not actually do anything? | 19:39 |
| sseehh_ | kanzure: i came to thank you and prepare for doing something | 19:41 |
| sseehh_ | but not make any promises | 19:41 |
| @kanzure | ok. | 19:43 |
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| @kanzure | yashgaroth: you're missing out on naming the sydney biohacking group, i know you have something good in you somewhere :p | 20:10 |
| @kanzure | brownies: .. or you. | 20:10 |
| yashgaroth | oh uh | 20:10 |
| yashgaroth | bondi beachbio | 20:11 |
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| @kanzure | oh damn they want to use "Sydney BioHack. Making the world glow one organism at a time" | 20:12 |
| @kanzure | god damn glowers | 20:12 |
| yashgaroth | sydney biohack: we're totally not making venomous kangaroos | 20:12 |
| @kanzure | not british enough | 20:13 |
| @kanzure | should be certainly instead of totally | 20:13 |
| yashgaroth | jolly well | 20:13 |
| @kanzure | we're certainly not poshing venomous kangaroos | 20:13 |
| @kanzure | or whatever they say | 20:13 |
| yashgaroth | ...in a lorry | 20:13 |
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| @kanzure | i am bad at multiculturalism | 20:13 |
| yashgaroth | they try to differentiate themselves from britain | 20:14 |
| yashgaroth | unsuccessfully, but they try | 20:14 |
| @kanzure | biohacking ecoli and eukaryotes restlessly (BEER) | 20:16 |
| Mariu | "god damn glowers" LOL | 20:17 |
| Mariu | =] | 20:17 |
| @kanzure | i hope some day people get tired of ultraviolet fluorescent proteins | 20:17 |
| @kanzure | or maybe there will be a terrible accident, and gfp will be banned by the UN | 20:17 |
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| brownies | eh? | 20:20 |
| brownies | hmm. | 20:20 |
| brownies | australian biology puns... hmm... | 20:21 |
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| brownies | Sydney Biohacking: The one-stop shop for synthesized marsupialanine! | 20:21 |
| brownies | hm, that's especially bad. | 20:21 |
| brownies | what else we got... kangaroos... pandas... wallabies... hmm... | 20:21 |
| yashgaroth | I want to incorporate all their poisonous animals but I don't know how | 20:22 |
| @kanzure | it was originally a giant penal colony, there's no way you can go wrong here | 20:22 |
| @kanzure | penal biohacking colony | 20:22 |
| yashgaroth | ah shit now I gotta go watch alien 3 again | 20:23 |
| @kanzure | why does google return "trinidad and tobago" when i type "penal country"? | 20:23 |
| Mariu | lol | 20:24 |
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| @kanzure | oh i see. "austin country" => "United States of America" | 20:25 |
| Mariu | good idea, yashgaroth. Alien movies FTW | 20:25 |
| @kanzure | it must be their question answering thing. | 20:25 |
| brownies | Sydney Biohacking: After you visit us, everyone else's biohacking is guana-sine boring! | 20:26 |
| * brownies groans | 20:26 | |
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| yashgaroth | the kangaroo boxing and biohacking club | 20:26 |
| @kanzure | one of them suggested "SydneyBioHack" but i don't get it | 20:26 |
| brownies | easily the worst one. | 20:27 |
| @kanzure | kickboxbio mightwork | 20:27 |
| brownies | Kangaroo Breeders' Association | 20:29 |
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| @kanzure | i wonder if there are novelty accounts on stackoverflow.com | 20:30 |
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| @kanzure | rar file magic http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XgcMl7OcpNc/UGYhJPPC7NI/AAAAAAAAA0A/lA2eSP7xLpk/s1600/Windows+7+x64+@+2012-09-29+00:12:24.png | 20:43 |
| @kanzure | that was from http://blog.cmpxchg8b.com/2012/09/fun-with-constrained-programming.html | 20:43 |
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