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| kanzure | gba https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1At4nh18WJc&feature=plcp | 06:56 |
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| strangewarp | note to self: noopept + cognizin + moderately large amount of caffeine = feeling closer to the Buddha, but less productive and less capable of crunching information. May be a good mix for more hands-on high-level music work though, idk | 08:16 |
| strangewarp | educated guess: supplement noopept with cognizin or caffeine, but not both | 08:17 |
| strangewarp | further note to self: austerity chic does not translate to haircuts unless they're shaven ones | 08:20 |
| brownies | strangewarp: really amping up your nootropic explorations, eh? | 08:27 |
| brownies | interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citicoline | 08:27 |
| strangewarp | indeed, Cognizin = Citicoline | 08:30 |
| strangewarp | It's a surprisingly peppy nootropic with an instant effect | 08:30 |
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| strangewarp | I think I prefer noopept, honestly - if I get hired for this studio tech position, I'll see how it stacks with 'racetams | 08:35 |
| strangewarp | gonna start growing weed in a month or so, as well | 08:38 |
| * strangewarp Coloradoan patriotism, for once | 08:38 | |
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| strangewarp | As a musician living in a state that just outright legalized weed, I am fascinated by the possibilities of mixing weed and noots - sort of wondering whether there are any hidden productivity or insightfulness sweet-spots in there that I could find | 08:50 |
| kanzure | and what has led you to this conclusion | 08:51 |
| strangewarp | kanzure: the experimental spirit, mostly | 08:52 |
| strangewarp | It might be a total wash, I admit | 08:52 |
| strangewarp | a high-cannabinoid, low-THC strain would be the most likely candidate, since the lethargy comes from the THC, whereas cannabinoids stimulate the imagination.. | 08:54 |
| ParahSail1in | whats the part that makes people conspiratards | 08:59 |
| strangewarp | weed culture | 08:59 |
| ParahSail1in | accidental to the drug itself? | 09:00 |
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| strangewarp | it might cause paranoia, or it might be an effect of knowing it's illegal and being made prone to suggestion, or both | 09:00 |
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| strangewarp | weed culture sucks though, I'm gonna lay the blame there | 09:01 |
| kanzure | "let's try it with weed, because!" | 09:02 |
| kanzure | bleh | 09:02 |
| strangewarp | oh shush, it's just an idle fascination, I'm not expecting anything to come of it honestly ;) | 09:02 |
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| strangewarp | whoop, gotta go make a shopping list for the recipes I'll be contributing on Thanksgiving, zoom | 09:05 |
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| kanzure | how many different restriction enzymes do we have these days? | 09:26 |
| ParahSail1in | on the order of 200 | 09:29 |
| nmz787 | so does anyone here know if there are cheaper similars to Molecular Probes | 09:33 |
| nmz787 | Molecular Probes' YOYO-1 DNA Dye? | 09:33 |
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| ParahSail1in | for what purpose? | 09:34 |
| nmz787 | it is a bis intercalator (2 bases, 1 dye) so its bery bright and has high affinity for DNA, plus fluoresces like 1000X brighter when bound to DNA | 09:35 |
| nmz787 | looking at single DNA molecules | 09:35 |
| nmz787 | I figure if I'm bulding micro/nano channels, moving a piece of DNA through is a good first experiment | 09:35 |
| nmz787 | once i get the whole fab process figured out | 09:36 |
| kanzure | moving colored dyes is a better first experiment | 09:36 |
| nmz787 | meh | 09:36 |
| nmz787 | that's kind of 0.5 step | 09:36 |
| ParahSail1in | fancy dyes are usually pretty expensive and only sold by invitrogen | 09:38 |
| kanzure | i was thinking more like... food coloring dyes | 09:38 |
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| nmz787 | yeah its $400 for 200uL | 09:38 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: yes that is a simpler first step | 09:39 |
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| nmz787 | kanzure: http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/microfluidics/Rapid%20prototyping%20of%20glass-based%20micro%ef%ac%82uidic%20chips%20utilizing%20two-pass%20defocused%20CO2%20laser%20beam%20method.pdf | 12:01 |
| kanzure | neat | 12:02 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: this one too is pretty cool for doing lots of valves http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/microfluidics/Design%20and%20characterization%20of%20a%20platform%20for%20thermal%20actuation%20of%20up%20to%20588%20micro%ef%ac%82uidic%20valves.pdf | 12:11 |
| kanzure | if you can't find things i might have a copy in http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/microfluidics/ | 12:16 |
| nmz787 | cool | 12:16 |
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| strangewarp | I had some yerba mate and I feel like a living god | 12:33 |
| strangewarp | interaction of yerba mate and nootropics: ????? | 12:33 |
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| ParahSail1in | yerba mate is just caffeine | 12:43 |
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| strangewarp | hmm, I could have sworn it contained herbal sedatives plus caffeine? | 13:05 |
| strangewarp | I'll have to look into that | 13:05 |
| fenn | it also contains mateine and theophylline | 13:25 |
| strangewarp | ah, there we go then | 13:27 |
| fenn | egad, "Citicoline has also been shown to elevate ACTH independently from CRH levels and to amplify the release of other HPA axis hormones such as LH, FSH, GH and TSH" | 13:29 |
| ParahSail1in | mateine is caffeine | 13:30 |
| strangewarp | yeah, I wikied mateine and raised an eyebrow, there | 13:30 |
| strangewarp | yerba mate also contains theobromine (not to be confused with bromine).. hm | 13:31 |
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| fenn | anyway, don't overdo it on the caffeine or you'll find yourself not liking it anymore | 13:36 |
| strangewarp | yeah, I usually just consume light-to-moderate amounts of caffeine | 13:36 |
| fenn | thanks for reminding me about noopept | 13:36 |
| strangewarp | no prob | 13:37 |
| strangewarp | noopept + cognizin | 13:37 |
| strangewarp | A+ combo | 13:37 |
| fenn | thought i had left all my nootropics in SF, but noopept managed to sneak in because it's so small | 13:37 |
| fenn | i'm surprised swanson sells citicoline | 13:37 |
| fenn | is there anything special about "cognizin" brand? | 13:37 |
| strangewarp | Brainpower Nutriceuticals sell a noopept supplement that's much cheaper per dose than the others I've seen, btw | 13:38 |
| strangewarp | oh, nope, I just call citicoline "cognizin" to keep people from confusing it with choline proper | 13:38 |
| fenn | um, how much is a dose anyway? | 13:38 |
| strangewarp | one dose of noopept should be no larger than 30mg, for safety reasons | 13:38 |
| fenn | on what basis? | 13:39 |
| strangewarp | if you take 60mg at once, you start getting close to the range where you risk liver damage | 13:39 |
| strangewarp | (from what I understand of it, anyway; I'm not a chemist or doctor) | 13:39 |
| strangewarp | also, you have to take it with one of the standard 'racetam absorption agents; choline or whatnot | 13:40 |
| strangewarp | Brainpower Nutriceuticals put noopept/choline citrate in single pills, together. very convenient | 13:41 |
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| jrayhawk | yerba mate, like all teas, also has piles of interesting phenolics | 14:10 |
| jrayhawk | http://www.mdpi.com/1420-3049/12/3/423 | 14:11 |
| chris_99 | what about chocolate, is that any good for brain power? | 14:13 |
| jrayhawk | Initially, yes, but, I find my HPA axis getting really trashed if I use it very long. | 14:15 |
| jrayhawk | And my intestines start complaining. Don't know if it's the magnesium or the theobromine, there. | 14:16 |
| jrayhawk | thankfully my chocolate cravings go way down when i supplement with a chelated magnesium | 14:18 |
| chris_99 | heh, i eat far too much chocolate | 14:19 |
| fenn | i noticed that too | 14:21 |
| fenn | also mate isn't a tea | 14:21 |
| jrayhawk | oh | 14:22 |
| chris_99 | oh it's holly apparently | 14:22 |
| fenn | something like that | 14:22 |
| jrayhawk | i used to buy these http://www.ohnuts.com/buy.cfm/baked-goods-baking-supplies/callebaut-finest-belgian-chocolate-11-lb-bar | 14:23 |
| fenn | woah | 14:23 |
| fenn | i just get the trader joe's pound plus 72% | 14:24 |
| fenn | how do you even eat a brick of pure chocolate? | 14:24 |
| jrayhawk | it involves a hammer | 14:25 |
| fenn | i mean it must be physically difficult to chew | 14:25 |
| jrayhawk | basically any day that involves preparing food with a hammer is a good day, in my book | 14:25 |
| jrayhawk | this is why i like coconuts | 14:25 |
| fenn | and lamb brains | 14:26 |
| jrayhawk | good thinking! | 14:26 |
| fenn | i think chlorogenic acid is a mild laxative, could be why too much chocolate upsets your tummy | 14:30 |
| jrayhawk | oh, neat | 14:30 |
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| jrayhawk | Yeah, I've messed with unchelated magnesium before, and while it does cause a lot of stool water retention, it is not nearly as dramatic as the typical effects of chocolate, so that makes sense | 14:31 |
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| kanzure | beep | 18:13 |
| fenn | boop | 18:22 |
| kanzure | sup? | 18:34 |
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| fenn | setting up a small electronics bench area | 18:41 |
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| kanzure | http://www.oshwa.org/sharing-best-practices/ | 19:27 |
| * fenn yawns | 19:28 | |
| fenn | well at least it's something to point people at | 19:28 |
| kanzure | do you feel like looking at an encryption problem for me? | 19:29 |
| fenn | i dont know anything about encryption | 19:29 |
| fenn | these oshw people seem to think everything is super amateur and hopeless from the start | 19:30 |
| fenn | it's not like "here's how to do it" it's "you're a clueless fucktard and try not to fuck it up too bad but nobody is going to care anyway" | 19:30 |
| fenn | a wiki is not a manual | 19:31 |
| fenn | obviously they were trying to list open source cad formats but ran into the problem that there aren't any | 19:32 |
| fenn | but why list altium? it's $15k/seat | 19:32 |
| fenn | also it's extremely electronics focused | 19:33 |
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| fenn | this quote requesting stuff really chaps my ass | 19:50 |
| fenn | just tell me the price dammit | 19:50 |
| fenn | do we really need 5 back and forth emails about which specific subtype of the four options that are available is best suited to my needs? just give me the price of all four | 19:50 |
| kanzure | the people who have taken over oshw like to assume it's all electronics | 20:00 |
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| sylph_mako_origi | antis.. it's this mako. | 23:27 |
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