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| @fenn | lol | 00:46 |
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| @fenn | chris kresser recommends against eating dead sea salt on the basis of this case study, in which "the patient reported consuming 3-4 tablespoons of Dead Sea salt daily for several months. " | 00:46 |
| @fenn | i did the math on acceptable bromide levels and a half teaspoon a day of dead sea salt comes nowhere close to toxic levels | 00:50 |
| lichen | 4 tablespoons of salt daily? what | 01:04 |
| @fenn | yeah surprised he had bromism and not chronic diarrhea | 01:17 |
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| jrayhawk | or terrifying hypertension and renal problems | 01:39 |
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| jrayhawk | http://www.marksdailyapple.com/eating-earth-exploring-the-mysterious-world-of-geophagy/ | 01:54 |
| @fenn | i've heard it referred to disparagingly as "pica" but never "geophagy" | 01:55 |
| @fenn | apparently it's a big thing in the south, alabama mississipi | 01:56 |
| @fenn | i'm a fan of bentonite for treating food poisoning, but it seems most dirt is just not that nutrition (big surprise) | 01:58 |
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| @fenn | in peru it's used to adsorb some kind of toxin from their local potato | 02:00 |
| @fenn | it's worth noting that clays can adsorb nutrients as well as toxins, so don't go eating it constantly | 02:05 |
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| @fenn | azomite sounds like it could fix that problem | 02:09 |
| @fenn | it's hardly "all the essential minerals and trace elements in a balanced ratio" though | 02:14 |
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| @kanzure | eugen finally has lab space: http://eleitl.imgur.com/all/ | 08:41 |
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| @kanzure | http://antiagingtech.info/Anti-Aging/Anti-Aging-Tech-DIY-Education-and-Research.html | 08:55 |
| @kanzure | haha "For now, I want an inexpensive, nano size appropriate DIY bio platform that links to my home computer for DNA origami and nano robotics experiments. Computer simulation, cell reprogramming, artificial intelligence, open source software and hardware, DNA origami and CAD for health maintainance nano robotics" | 08:55 |
| @kanzure | "I've taken a first step down this road by organizing and burning a collection of my favorite DIY tools; Genome Workbench, NanoEngineer, TinkerCell, Python, " | 08:55 |
| @kanzure | nanoengineer made the cut :p | 08:55 |
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| @kanzure | oh that's funny.. he's selling a dvd of nanoengineer for $35 | 08:56 |
| @kanzure | http://www.antiagingtech.info/nF1/join.htm | 08:56 |
| archels | kanzure: cool, did Eugen blog about that somewhere? | 10:06 |
| juri_ | wow. | 10:14 |
| juri_ | what the fuck? ;) | 10:14 |
| juri_ | and here i am getting shut down for wanting to perform tissue engineering with a 3d printer. | 10:14 |
| juri_ | yay! i made my first on-topic good-idea post posting to the openpnp project. | 10:22 |
| eudoxia | >OpenOffice | 10:28 |
| eudoxia | he should be using LibreOffice i mean guys seriously it's almost 2013 | 10:28 |
| eudoxia | so kanzure what is eugene going to be using the lab for? cryobiology research | 10:30 |
| eudoxia | ? | 10:30 |
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| @kanzure | eudoxia: he hasn't mentioned any specific projects to me. | 10:45 |
| @kanzure | i'm glad he's getting a lab/shop after 20+ years of transhumanism.. at least he can change directions. | 10:46 |
| @kanzure | juri_: who is shutting you down for "wanting" anything? | 10:46 |
| @kanzure | archels: no he just posted something to http://groups.google.com/group/diybio and was mentioning it to me the other day over jabber | 10:47 |
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| @kanzure | HEx1: wb | 10:47 |
| HEx1 | hi kanzure | 10:47 |
| @kanzure | sup? | 10:47 |
| HEx1 | not much. you? | 10:47 |
| @kanzure | banging my head against emulators and qemu | 10:48 |
| @kanzure | and ssl | 10:48 |
| HEx1 | eek. and I'm thinking I really need a 64-bit OS after X ran out of address space for like the third time now | 10:52 |
| @kanzure | how'd you make that happen | 10:54 |
| @kanzure | jrayhawk: MX record for diyhpl.us is updated | 10:55 |
| jrayhawk | Composite, maybe? Seems odd that it would cause crashes. | 10:55 |
| archels | kanzure: so when Eugen talks about 'we' he means... | 10:55 |
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| @kanzure | archels: yeah i don't know what he means, haha | 10:57 |
| @kanzure | he sort of avoided the question when i asked him | 10:57 |
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| HEx1 | I think something's leaking, or maybe I just have way too many browser tabs open, but ironically it was running xrestop last time that caused instant death | 11:01 |
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| jrayhawk | Browser tabs wouldn't do it; X11, by default, uses a shared buffer model and expects applications to store state for redraws; if you've enabled compositing, the compositing is still done per-window. | 11:18 |
| jrayhawk | You might want to check dmesg to see what the OOM killer is targeting, if anything. | 11:18 |
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| jrayhawk | And in compositing mode you're going to run into physical memory limitations way sooner than logical addressing limitations. | 11:24 |
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| jrayhawk | unless you happen to have a >2GiB video controller | 11:25 |
| HEx1 | I bow to your superior knowledge. the evidence I was going on was lines like "[4245155.391] EXA: malloc failed for size 3707544 bytes" and Xorg's VM usage approaching 3Gb | 11:28 |
| jrayhawk | hot damn, yeah, that sounds like a bug | 11:28 |
| HEx1 | now I'm thinking that xrestop-triggered meltdown is something else though | 11:29 |
| jrayhawk | Are you running a 64-bit kernel, at least? | 11:30 |
| HEx1 | no, sadly. (doesn't seem to be supported OOTB in ubuntu, and trying a random kernel from elsewhere I ran into driver issues) | 11:31 |
| HEx1 | also I do not have a compositing WM | 11:31 |
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| jrayhawk | I think Ubuntu relies on the multiarch stuff they merged into dpkg a couple years ago to handle foreign architecture kernels. | 11:35 |
| jrayhawk | dpkg --add-architecture amd64; apt-get update; apt-get install linux-image:amd64 | 11:38 |
| HEx1 | interesting. https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+question/186538 implies that that doesn't work on ubuntu (I think I may have already tried that) | 11:41 |
| HEx1 | but either way, I do believe a fresh install is long overdue (maybe back to debian this time) | 11:41 |
| jrayhawk | Did you try my thing? | 11:41 |
| HEx1 | I believe so, although it was several months ago now | 11:42 |
| jrayhawk | http://askubuntu.com/a/152798 | 11:45 |
| HEx1 | hmm, retrying | 11:48 |
| jrayhawk | Ironically, Debian still hasn't done a multiarch stable release, but hopefully we'll get one in a month or two. | 11:49 |
| HEx1 | "There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'. It is 'dead'." | 11:51 |
| jrayhawk | An excellent philosophy when it comes to Debian. | 11:51 |
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| jrayhawk | anyway, i find it entirely plausible that xorg32-on-linux64 is much better tested than xorg32-on-linux32 | 11:52 |
| @kanzure | hmm so i'm trying to figure out the best shell-way to expose these: https://developers.google.com/chrome-developer-tools/docs/protocol/1.0/index | 11:57 |
| @kanzure | "debug dom xpath <xpath query goes here> | debug dom remove" with stdin/stdout piping between itself might be nice | 11:57 |
| HEx1 | maybe, although I can't see a 64-bit kernel getting round 32-bit userland address space limits. but really I should stop being lazy and either 64-bit everything or compile my own kernel with stuff I actually want that's not in mainline (bcache!). or both | 11:58 |
| @kanzure | default would be json so it could parse its own output, and then maybe a -h option for human readable | 11:58 |
| @kanzure | hrm no.. maybe i should just use separate tools that spit out json, and then a human-usable interface named something else | 12:02 |
| HEx1 | how unreadable is the json? (at least json is nicer than XML in this regard) | 12:03 |
| @kanzure | enough json to let the other program understand which dom node you're talking about | 12:04 |
| HEx1 | oh, it's less verbose than would be useful? (browsing those docs I'm seeing a lot of "nodeId" fields) | 12:05 |
| @kanzure | nodeId is just an id for the debugging session and sadly does not correspond to anything you'd actually see in the html | 12:06 |
| HEx1 | it's stateful? | 12:09 |
| @kanzure | what do you mean? | 12:10 |
| HEx1 | each message isn't independent, the server has to track what ids it gives you during a session | 12:11 |
| @kanzure | yes | 12:11 |
| @kanzure | https://gist.github.com/4358293 | 12:11 |
| @kanzure | so there's actually two tools i'm writing | 12:11 |
| @kanzure | one is an intermediate server that maintains state | 12:11 |
| @kanzure | and the second is the client that connects to this intermediate service so that you can run multiple shell commands | 12:11 |
| @kanzure | this is also necessary because you have to turn on network recording if you want to record xhr/requests, and if you reset it each time you run a command you wouldn't be able to record anything. | 12:12 |
| HEx1 | fair enough | 12:20 |
| jrayhawk | bcache looks like a solution in search of a problem | 12:20 |
| jrayhawk | which i guess isn't all bad, but i would be curious as to what usage profile that would actually be useful for | 12:20 |
| HEx1 | jrayhawk: bcache is a solution to the "I have a large, slow, noisy, power-hungry HD, and a small, fast, silent SSD that I want to use as cache for it" problem | 12:22 |
| jrayhawk | bcache doesn't help power any; it only caches small non-sequential reads | 12:22 |
| jrayhawk | and if you want cache, buy cache | 12:23 |
| jrayhawk | it's four times as expensive, but also three orders of magnitude faster | 12:23 |
| jrayhawk | if you want safe fast I/O barriers, buy battery-backed write cache | 12:25 |
| HEx1 | given that I've not actually tried it yet, it's possible that it isn't all I'm hoping for. but why is it no good as a cache (including write-behind)? | 12:26 |
| @kanzure | i'm not convinced that the fusion/sdd-cache drives are worthwhile | 12:27 |
| @kanzure | what's the point if i can't control what's on the ssd portion? | 12:27 |
| jrayhawk | bcache would theoretically be able to give you some control | 12:27 |
| jrayhawk | at least in the sense that you could write caching policies for it. | 12:28 |
| jrayhawk | HEx1: For sporadic but low-overall-rate writes, you only need as much cache window as you want overall latency for; this number is typically not large. For high-overall rates, SSDs aren't an option unless you really don't care about reliability. | 12:29 |
| jrayhawk | As a write cache, bcache would be useful for network block devices, except we've had async write caching there for years | 12:30 |
| jrayhawk | as seen with things like DRBD and friends. | 12:31 |
| HEx1 | having to manually move stuff between fast and slow storage is a pain. this is what fusion drives are for, it's true, but then you have to trust the firmware to make good decisions. surely the kernel could do a better job | 12:31 |
| jrayhawk | Yeah, even FTLs piss me off. | 12:32 |
| HEx1 | reliability: you mean because there's now two points of failure instead of one? | 12:32 |
| jrayhawk | The kernel's logging and flash filesystems are supported and maintained, unlike the disastrous bugs you find in the firmware block logging systems. | 12:33 |
| jrayhawk | I mean putting something like a Postgres WAL or an XFS journal on an SSD has a tendency to wear it out pretty fast. | 12:35 |
| @kanzure | shouldn't postgres be from ram | 12:35 |
| jrayhawk | Well, you presumably want to commit to storage sooner or later. | 12:35 |
| jrayhawk | Postgres by default is hyper-paranoid about WAL syncing | 12:35 |
| HEx1 | is using SSD as a cache just asking for trouble from limited write cycles? I thought this problem had been largely solved | 12:36 |
| jrayhawk | It's more like "there is no problem other than power and space for which SSDs are a better solution than actual battery-backed write cache" | 12:37 |
| jrayhawk | power/space/heat management | 12:37 |
| HEx1 | "RAM is faster than flash" is a non-argument in my book. is there nothing to be said for an intermediate layer? | 12:40 |
| jrayhawk | If the intermediate layer didn't occupy a fairly stupid place on the (speed/size)/dollar ratio or wasn't unreliable at what it's particularly fast at | 12:43 |
| jrayhawk | Admittedly bcache does look tempting for my oversize laptop. I can fit three drives in there and have no real way to fit a battery backed write cache in it. | 12:46 |
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| jrayhawk | And the only real obnoxious generator of I/O traffic is vim frequently syncing swap and info files. | 12:47 |
| jrayhawk | eh, i guess i don't care about the latency that much. *effort* | 12:50 |
| HEx1 | speaking of obnoxious generators of I/O traffic: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=664611 | 12:51 |
| jrayhawk | haha, wow, that's weird. | 12:53 |
| curtiss | hey kanzure | 12:54 |
| curtiss | re: the thing youre writing | 12:54 |
| curtiss | have you heard of http://mosh.mit.edu/ | 12:55 |
| @kanzure | yes, but what does that have to do with anything | 12:55 |
| curtiss | its cool | 12:56 |
| jrayhawk | mosh doesn't have any particularly impressive distributed dispatch stuff like what kanzure wants | 12:56 |
| jrayhawk | some of the system management things like puppet/cfengine and friends might, though | 12:56 |
| @kanzure | what are we talking about? curtiss said "the thing youre writing" but jrayhawk is talking about "impressive distributed dispatch stuff like what kanzure wants". | 12:57 |
| jrayhawk | 12:11 <@kanzure> one is an intermediate server that maintains state | 12:57 |
| jrayhawk | 12:11 <@kanzure> and the second is the client that connects to this intermediate service so that you can run multiple shell commands | 12:57 |
| jrayhawk | 12:12 <@kanzure> this is also necessary because you have to turn on network recording if you want to record xhr/requests, and if you reset it each time you run a command you wouldn't be able to record anything. | 12:57 |
| @kanzure | that's regarding a client that implements https://developers.google.com/chrome-developer-tools/docs/protocol/1.0/index | 12:58 |
| @kanzure | not about ssh | 12:58 |
| @kanzure | or ssh clients | 12:58 |
| curtiss | mosh isnt ssh or an ssh client | 12:59 |
| curtiss | its a replacement | 12:59 |
| jrayhawk | mosh is a mishmash of shell/shell multiplexer/ssh client | 13:00 |
| jrayhawk | calling it "not a client" is true only in the sense that it's a client of an ssh client | 13:01 |
| jrayhawk | but yes, it is badass | 13:01 |
| curtiss | :) | 13:01 |
| @kanzure | oh look, documentation http://trac.webkit.org/browser/trunk/Source/WebCore/inspector/Inspector.json | 13:01 |
| juri_ | kanzure: while i'm hard to stop, i do get argued against a lot here. | 13:04 |
| juri_ | its probably a good thing tho. refines my arguments. | 13:04 |
| @kanzure | you're argued against because your techniques need improvment | 13:04 |
| @kanzure | improvement | 13:04 |
| @kanzure | improvment is for comedians | 13:05 |
| * juri_ nods. | 13:05 | |
| jrayhawk | kanzure is abnormally bitchy towards you | 13:05 |
| @kanzure | that's nothing about law/regulations stopping you. i think you're exaggerating. | 13:05 |
| juri_ | makes sense to me. | 13:05 |
| @kanzure | jrayhawk: because this guy is completely crazy | 13:05 |
| curtiss | abnormally? | 13:05 |
| curtiss | i'd say normally | 13:05 |
| @kanzure | jrayhawk: WHAT IS WITH THE WINKING | 13:05 |
| curtiss | he's like that with everyone it seems | 13:05 |
| jrayhawk | like with most people it's entirely explicable | 13:05 |
| curtiss | it's unpleasant to say the least | 13:05 |
| juri_ | kanzure: poor choice of words, you're right. | 13:06 |
| @kanzure | also, it's because i don't like your tendency to randomly interject contextless stuff like "so do any of you guys actually work on projects?" | 13:07 |
| @kanzure | i've seen a number of projects mentioned every day | 13:07 |
| @kanzure | i just don't get it | 13:07 |
| juri_ | well, i was hoping to get a list, and drum up some conversation. :) | 13:08 |
| @kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/cgit has a mirror of most things going on in here | 13:08 |
| curtiss | heh | 13:10 |
| juri_ | oh, i didn't realize things were actually that organized. | 13:10 |
| curtiss | by "things" i guess you mean your own personal resume | 13:10 |
| @kanzure | no, my resume is completely different | 13:10 |
| curtiss | well | 13:10 |
| @kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/resume.pdf | 13:10 |
| curtiss | it's all your stuff | 13:10 |
| curtiss | not saying thats a bad thing | 13:10 |
| @kanzure | not really | 13:10 |
| @kanzure | believe it or not, there are individuals in here that actually contribute | 13:11 |
| @kanzure | *contribute more than irc messages | 13:11 |
| @kanzure | *contribute in addition to irc messages | 13:11 |
| jrayhawk | i make valuable contributions | 13:11 |
| * jrayhawk farts | 13:11 | |
| * juri_ hangs a 'biohazard' sign on jrayhawk. | 13:12 | |
| @kanzure | curtiss: if you have actually relevant transhumanist, biohacking projects that we can mirror on diyhpl.us, let me know | 13:12 |
| curtiss | hey that's fine kanzure, but i wouldn't come looking for validation from you | 13:12 |
| jrayhawk | hooray i am a diybiohazard | 13:13 |
| curtiss | considering i've watched you put off all sorts of potential collaborators | 13:13 |
| @kanzure | it's not "only things that kanzure has committed to".. it's just that i happen to run laps around everyone else for some bizarre reason. | 13:13 |
| jrayhawk | this means i can call myself a biohacker and get into Wired | 13:13 |
| @kanzure | curtiss: if you're saying that you have suggested git repos that i'm missing out on, which ones? | 13:13 |
| @kanzure | is that what you mean by validation? | 13:13 |
| juri_ | whats with this reprap tree thats two years old? | 13:14 |
| @kanzure | reprap was migrating to git and then it exploded | 13:14 |
| jrayhawk | yeah, i probably should've been more supportive | 13:14 |
| @kanzure | nah it failed because of reprap dev team issues not because of jrayhawk issues | 13:14 |
| @kanzure | we could have done a git-svn mirror but i don't think any reprap contributor wanted to actually use it? | 13:15 |
| jrayhawk | jsmiller seemed interested in doing so, at least. | 13:15 |
| @kanzure | i can't remember why he gave up.. he said something about adrian not liking it. | 13:15 |
| jrayhawk | maybe he was more invested in the project splitout and packaging side of things, which just happened to involve git because we accidently convinced him along the way that it was a good idea. | 13:16 |
| @kanzure | actually that's a pretty lousy reason huh | 13:16 |
| @kanzure | (to give up because adrian isn't tittilated) | 13:16 |
| @kanzure | reprap.git would still be a nice thing to have laying around | 13:17 |
| jrayhawk | And obviously the project splitout and packaging was going to be a bit of a fight without top-town approval. | 13:17 |
| jrayhawk | top-down | 13:17 |
| @kanzure | what was going to be split out? | 13:18 |
| @kanzure | i don't recall | 13:18 |
| jrayhawk | There's a bajillion little projects all handled in the main repo. | 13:18 |
| jrayhawk | It's kindof comically gigantic. | 13:19 |
| curtiss | nah by validation i just meant sharing anything i may or may not be working on | 13:19 |
| curtiss | just so you can shit on it | 13:19 |
| @kanzure | when i'm wrong you should call me out on it dude | 13:19 |
| jrayhawk | kanzure shits on my stuff from time to time | 13:19 |
| jrayhawk | this is one way my shit gets better | 13:19 |
| delinquentme | "elastic limit" | 13:19 |
| @kanzure | the other way jrayhawk's stuff gets better is he just makes jules do it | 13:19 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, what you did w that pokemon was wrong | 13:20 |
| juri_ | its a different management style, thats for sure. ;) | 13:20 |
| @kanzure | delinquentme: i don't understand? | 13:20 |
| curtiss | i think he's talking about http://i.imgur.com/cAl0W.jpg | 13:20 |
| curtiss | or what happened next | 13:20 |
| jrayhawk | lol | 13:20 |
| @kanzure | because i wrote a disassembler? | 13:21 |
| jrayhawk | oh yeah, i was supposed to fix commit announcements | 13:23 |
| gnusha | ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) | 13:35 |
| @kanzure | seems to work | 13:36 |
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| gnusha | https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/winking.git/commit/?id=c28d2e26 jrayhawk+gnusha@omgwallhack.org: ;) ;) ;) :O ;) | 13:41 |
| gnusha | https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/winking.git/commit/?id=44d4af5a Joe Rayhawk: WINK WINK | 13:45 |
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| gnusha | https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/winking/commit/?id=9f2b3b8a Joe Rayhawk: NEIN | 13:46 |
| jrayhawk | ah, there we go | 13:46 |
| jrayhawk | ugh, why doesn't cgit use <pre> | 13:48 |
| jrayhawk | this ruins everything | 13:48 |
| @kanzure | where do you need <pre>? | 13:49 |
| jrayhawk | The diff text. | 13:50 |
| chris_99 | you guys seen this UI too http://demo.gitlabhq.com/ looks similar to github in some ways | 13:50 |
| @kanzure | yes i'm aware of it | 13:51 |
| @kanzure | there's also gitorious and a hundred others | 13:51 |
| jrayhawk | including the dumb crazy shit i wrote | 13:51 |
| @kanzure | i don't think jrayhawk would appreciate me running rails just to show git repositories | 13:52 |
| jrayhawk | eh, not that big a deal to me | 13:52 |
| @kanzure | otherwise i'd consider redmine before i'd consider gitlabhq or gitorious | 13:52 |
| jrayhawk | rails developers may be dumb, but usually it's just innocuous stuff like XSS rather than brainless unsteriliezd shell and SQL callouts and recursive dynamicly generated code | 13:55 |
| jrayhawk | oh and distributing their entire shared library runtime unmaintained with whatever they ship | 13:56 |
| jrayhawk | because smalltalk sure was awesome, guys, right? right? | 13:56 |
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| jrayhawk | which i guess has some security implications, but thankfully i can mail kanzure a dead cat if he tries that | 13:57 |
| jrayhawk | or a stool sample | 13:57 |
| @kanzure | i'll take the dead cat | 13:57 |
| jrayhawk | maybe a wink emoticon printed out in 100-pt font | 13:58 |
| @kanzure | jokes on you though.. i don't even check my mail. | 13:58 |
| @kanzure | returned to sender: one (1) dead cat. | 13:58 |
| jrayhawk | Next time, Bishop, next time! | 13:58 |
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| @kanzure | i rmmoded psmouse and modprobed it and now mouse doesn't work | 14:00 |
| @kanzure | what did i do wrong? | 14:01 |
| @kanzure | ah i see it just took a few seconds? wtf. | 14:01 |
| @kanzure | jrayhawk: while you're doing gnusha things, you might as well know that i updated the MX records for both domains | 14:03 |
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| jrayhawk | Danke. | 14:08 |
| jrayhawk | Yeah, the input hotplug infrastructure is ponderous | 14:08 |
| jrayhawk | in every sense of the word | 14:08 |
| jrayhawk | fwiw you can disable the touchpad in the BIOS | 14:09 |
| @kanzure | is mouse clit sensitivity controlled somewhere | 14:11 |
| qu-bit | ・_・ | 14:11 |
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| jrayhawk | xinput list and xinput list-props and xinput --set-prop maybe? | 14:12 |
| jrayhawk | I guess the base speed is done with xset | 14:20 |
| @kanzure | hrmm whois removed the .rw tld | 14:20 |
| jrayhawk | you mean the .rw tld removed whois? | 14:21 |
| @kanzure | i mean whois.deb removed information about whoising .rw | 14:21 |
| jrayhawk | oh, yeah, the .rw tld whois service doesn't exist anymore | 14:22 |
| @kanzure | because fuck whois? | 14:22 |
| jrayhawk | well, | 14:23 |
| jrayhawk | jrayhawk@richardiv:~$ host -t ns rw | 14:23 |
| jrayhawk | rw name server ns-rw.afrinic.net. | 14:23 |
| jrayhawk | rw name server fork.sth.dnsnode.net. | 14:23 |
| jrayhawk | rw name server ns1.ricta.org.rw. | 14:23 |
| jrayhawk | jrayhawk@richardiv:~$ host nic.rw ns-rw.afrinic.net. | 14:23 |
| jrayhawk | Using domain server: | 14:23 |
| jrayhawk | Name: ns-rw.afrinic.net. | 14:23 |
| jrayhawk | Address: 196.216.168.28#53 | 14:23 |
| jrayhawk | jrayhawk@richardiv:~$ nmap -p 80 196.216.168.28 | 14:23 |
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| jrayhawk | Note: Host seems down. | 14:23 |
| @kanzure | i assume this is because they don't want to provide whois | 14:24 |
| jrayhawk | or register domains...? | 14:24 |
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| jrayhawk | fenn: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17909264 huh, your natto plan might need some more research | 19:45 |
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| @fenn | it's okay, i like butter | 20:05 |
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| @kanzure | fenn: are you going to bothre making that extension? you never explicitly said either way. | 20:13 |
| @kanzure | bother | 20:13 |
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| @fenn | the tab thing? or the image inverting thing? | 20:21 |
| @fenn | trying to find out of there are better ways of using bookmarks first | 20:21 |
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| qu-bit | distributed systems don't seem too inferior | 21:02 |
| qu-bit | although you lose some privacy | 21:02 |
| @fenn | i don't care about privacy; i care about speed and reliability (offline access) | 21:04 |
| @fenn | chrome seems unusually bad at caching, so i might end up using a proxy after all | 21:05 |
| @fenn | or rather, using what it's got in the cache when there's no net connection | 21:05 |
| @fenn | this is mostly a workaround for having more tabs open than i can fit in memory, so an online bookmarking webpage is not helpful | 21:06 |
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| qu-bit | I mozill have a cloud storage system for setting, fenn | 21:27 |
| @kanzure | "for setting"? | 21:35 |
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| @kanzure | GlaxoSmithKline spent $720 million on buying resveratrol? | 22:49 |
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| delinquentme | http://hackaday.com/2012/12/21/making-graphene-with-a-dvd-burner/#more-92103 | 23:18 |
| delinquentme | does anyone \ | 23:35 |
| delinquentme | http://hackadaycom.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/laser-scribing-of-high-performance-and-flexible-graphene-based-electrochemical-capacitors.pdf | 23:35 |
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