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| @fenn | '"Forgetting" is a key part of human existence that most wearable applications tend to ignore.' pffff blrghh why am i reading this crap | 05:05 |
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| @fenn | this whole ycombinator thread has devolved into a discussion of the merits of lifelogging, not really anything to do with wearable enhancement | 05:26 |
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| chris_99 | what thread is that fenn? | 05:29 |
| @fenn | http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4993498 | 05:38 |
| chris_99 | cheers | 05:39 |
| @fenn | now this is what i want: "Another thing I did was create glasses that allowed me to see in different spectral bands. I could see where people had recently walked because the ground was still warm. I could look into a parking lot and see which cars had recently been parked because the engine was still hot." | 05:39 |
| @fenn | that was steve mann circa 2000 | 05:39 |
| chris_99 | i looked into how much passive IR recievers are, and they're ridiculously expensive at least for the ones i was looking at | 05:41 |
| chris_99 | i think that was for 2um+ | 05:42 |
| @fenn | theyre about $3k | 05:43 |
| @fenn | but that's for a consumer device, not a development kit | 05:43 |
| @fenn | it might be possible to get defective sensors for less | 05:43 |
| chris_99 | i was looking at the sensors themselves | 05:43 |
| @fenn | missing pixels or whatever | 05:43 |
| chris_99 | and was quoted around £1k | 05:44 |
| @fenn | quoted by who? | 05:44 |
| chris_99 | i'm just trying to find the email, it's a japanese company, who seem to be one of the main manufacturers, begins with H | 05:47 |
| chris_99 | got it hamamatsu | 05:49 |
| chris_99 | that was for an InGaAs | 05:50 |
| @fenn | cool. thanks for the data point. hamamatsu is a high end scientific sensor company, so it's possible that someone like extech would have cheaper sensors | 06:23 |
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| chris_99 | cheers, hadn't heard of extech | 06:44 |
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| heath | http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/ | 11:26 |
| heath | qml | 11:26 |
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| @kanzure | ah yes.. http://www.w3.org/.ger-test.php.swp | 11:44 |
| eudoxia | wait dicks | 11:45 |
| eudoxia | you can use /. and /.. in URLs? | 11:45 |
| eudoxia | oh dear lord it works | 11:46 |
| eudoxia | it goes back up | 11:46 |
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| @kanzure | yes ../ usually works | 11:46 |
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| @kanzure | most people running apache leave the default enabled to block access to .dotfiles | 11:46 |
| eudoxia | fucking nuts | 11:47 |
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| ThomasEgi | eudoxia, do you wan't a picture that matches your last phrase? | 11:49 |
| eudoxia | no thanks but i have a joke that matches it | 11:49 |
| eudoxia | "H, the victim was found with his dick in a jar of peanut butter" | 11:49 |
| eudoxia | "well i guess you could say..." *puts on shades* "... he was fucking nuts" | 11:50 |
| eudoxia | YEAAAHHHHH | 11:50 |
| @kanzure | uh.. | 11:52 |
| ThomasEgi | .. the pic would've been the better choice. compared to the joke | 11:52 |
| @fenn | heath: ubuntu seems to be making some odd choices lately, " Looking for music? Ubuntu doesn’t just search your phone. It also searches online retailers including Amazon and the Ubuntu One Music Store, putting the whole world of music at your fingertips," | 11:52 |
| eudoxia | i didn't think people still bought music | 11:53 |
| ThomasEgi | well the last 4 times i was willing to buy music. i was unable to buy it , no matter where i looked or what i tried. so i got it via other means. their fault for making it impossible to buy it. | 11:55 |
| @fenn | oh well at least they've got an incentive to port more stuff to ARM now | 11:59 |
| @fenn | pooh. "Please note that currently only Marvell Armada-XP (server only) and TI Panda development boards are supported." | 12:01 |
| EnLilaSko | http://singularityhub.com/2012/12/13/patented-book-writing-system-lets-one-professor-create-hundreds-of-thousands-of-amazon-books-and-counting/ - No idea if it fits here (or is well known), but damn that was cool | 12:05 |
| @kanzure | yes it's well known. there are lots of spammers everywhere. | 12:05 |
| @fenn | i'd rather have the opposite: a program that lets me read 100,000 books and condense them info one book | 12:05 |
| chris_99 | the books it generates are really weirdly priced though, like some are $400 for a load of crap | 12:07 |
| @kanzure | i figure it's probably the same as the wikipedia book generator thing.. it just dumps a bunch of articles into a pdf. and sometimes it takes hours to render the pdf and fails anyway. | 12:07 |
| @fenn | "what’s the next book genre Parker is targeting to have software produce? Romance novels." | 12:08 |
| @fenn | hard to distinguish the auto-generated ones i bet | 12:09 |
| @kanzure | 12:03 < nmz787> kanzure_: i just paid $27 to register at pdx.edu for some non-degree status | 12:09 |
| @kanzure | 12:03 < nmz787> but i get library access | 12:09 |
| @kanzure | 12:03 < nmz787> and i think it's instant | 12:09 |
| @kanzure | 12:03 < nmz787> http://www.pdx.edu/registration/nondegree-register | 12:09 |
| @fenn | cool | 12:10 |
| @kanzure | we already have access to pdx thanks to jrayhawk | 12:10 |
| EnLilaSko | chris_99: The pricing is fucked up idd - http://www.icongrouponline.com/industries.asp?sid=610991291&kw=Cancer | 12:10 |
| @kanzure | but maybe there's another university that has this | 12:10 |
| @fenn | don't you also have to pay for at least one credit hour? | 12:11 |
| @kanzure | i hope not | 12:11 |
| @fenn | well anyway there are probably ways to get around it | 12:12 |
| @fenn | like signing up for a class, then dropping the class | 12:12 |
| @kanzure | take a sabbatical | 12:12 |
| @kanzure | rit seems to offer it | 12:18 |
| @kanzure | nmz787: how is rit's paper access? | 12:18 |
| * vitno goes to RIT. what about our paper access? | 12:19 | |
| @kanzure | vitno: can you pastebin the list you find here? https://ezproxy.rit.edu/login | 12:21 |
| vitno | http://pastebin.com/ZKBPgax3 | 12:22 |
| @kanzure | sciencedirect, nature, wiley interscience, but no ieee | 12:22 |
| vitno | oh, of course we have IEEE. i've used it many times | 12:23 |
| vitno | I don't see it though... | 12:23 |
| @kanzure | but there's also acs, asm, aip, blackwell synergy, and elsevier | 12:23 |
| vitno | I don't think thats the total offering | 12:23 |
| @kanzure | oh i see it, Xplore is listed | 12:23 |
| @kanzure | that's ieee | 12:23 |
| vitno | kk | 12:23 |
| @kanzure | ah and ingenta.. okay sounds like rit is a good option. | 12:23 |
| @kanzure | http://www.rit.edu/academicaffairs/registrar/node/241/attachment | 12:24 |
| @kanzure | nmz787: so do you have access to pdx.edu now? | 12:45 |
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| eudoxia | my eyes have finally been opened to the wonders of git and text files | 15:08 |
| eudoxia | at last I truly see | 15:08 |
| @kanzure | what happened? | 15:08 |
| eudoxia | I fell in love with YAML | 15:08 |
| Mariu | :p | 15:08 |
| @kanzure | you're a few years late on the yaml train | 15:09 |
| @kanzure | but better late than never i guess | 15:09 |
| eudoxia | yeah | 15:09 |
| @kanzure | ever look at a diff of xml? yep.. | 15:09 |
| eudoxia | i also grew tired of looking for programs to replace Scrivener, and realized, it would be much easier if I just wrote every essay/paper/story/article on a plain text file and then wrote a script to pandoc it to something else, or put it together into a book, etc. | 15:10 |
| eudoxia | I always disliked XML, it's horrid and redundant and hard to write | 15:10 |
| eudoxia | buttsexpressions on the other hand are much more compact | 15:10 |
| @kanzure | is that a lisp machine feature? | 15:10 |
| eudoxia | no, just using things liek | 15:11 |
| eudoxia | like* | 15:11 |
| eudoxia | (html (head ***) (body lang:"en" ***)) | 15:11 |
| eudoxia | instead of, well, you know | 15:11 |
| eudoxia | and *** should be ... | 15:12 |
| @kanzure | have you used haml? | 15:12 |
| eudoxia | it looks like shit and relies on indentation | 15:12 |
| eudoxia | people will do all sorts of crazy things to escape parentheses or other delimiters | 15:13 |
| @kanzure | but at least i don't need to craft parentheses jump expressions just to edit a document | 15:13 |
| @kanzure | i don't actually use haml, for the record. | 15:13 |
| eudoxia | i guessed | 15:13 |
| @fenn | i just wish yaml had a canonical sort order for "unsorted lists" | 15:16 |
| @fenn | so you could actually do line by line diffs | 15:17 |
| jrayhawk | for a second i was really hoping 'buttsexpressions' was a structured plaintext format that i could be using | 15:17 |
| @fenn | i think that was the implication | 15:17 |
| jrayhawk | index.bsex | 15:18 |
| @fenn | all files must begin with the string ( )x( ) | 15:19 |
| jrayhawk | * is the official butthole symbol | 15:19 |
| jrayhawk | "Determining argininosuccinate synthetase (ASS) expression in patients with melanoma treated with arginine depleting therapy." | 15:20 |
| @fenn | google thinks it's got you figured out | 15:21 |
| jrayhawk | i think i may have synthesized enough ass for the time being | 15:24 |
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| eudoxia | oh also i was reading fenn's site and caught the plain text bug | 15:44 |
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| @fenn | i guess i have some text files up in pseudo yaml format | 15:50 |
| @fenn | or maybe he's talking about skdb | 15:53 |
| @kanzure | unsorted-dictionaries/lists-by-default is pretty evil | 15:57 |
| @kanzure | *unsorted-lists | 15:58 |
| @kanzure | it means that in many cases my http headers are sent out of order | 15:59 |
| @kanzure | http headers aren't supposed to have an order but some servers are evil | 16:00 |
| @kanzure | and other related problems that original-order-not-guaranteed causes. | 16:00 |
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| juri_ | Nice. one of my old students just got back ahold of me. he's also doing the 3d printer thing. | 17:54 |
| @kanzure | have you ever read the ecoli/plastics papers? | 17:55 |
| juri_ | nopenope. | 17:55 |
| @kanzure | prejudice? | 17:55 |
| juri_ | i'm still working on reading the last paper you sent me. | 17:55 |
| @kanzure | okay. | 17:55 |
| juri_ | i've really just been too busy doing for-pay free-software stuffs. | 17:56 |
| juri_ | it doesn't pay well, so... got to do a lot of it to make ends meet. | 17:56 |
| @kanzure | erm or you could solve the problem at the source.. don't take jobs that don't pay well. | 17:57 |
| * juri_ nods. | 17:57 | |
| juri_ | still working on that. first, it was important to get my plate 'full' of paying work. now i can be pickier. | 17:57 |
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| @kanzure | not that there's anything wrong with asuka | 17:58 |
| juri_ | asuka? | 17:59 |
| @kanzure | sorry, channel leak | 17:59 |
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| @kanzure | behold me ranting about phantomjs http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5000561 | 18:16 |
| @kanzure | what a terrible dependency manager for 3d prints https://github.com/blog/1368-make-me | 18:20 |
| @kanzure | a chat bot just seems suboptimal | 18:22 |
| @kanzure | how about cupsd or something.. | 18:22 |
| @fenn | given a choice between an irc bot and cupsd, i think i'd take the bot | 18:23 |
| @kanzure | oh. hrm. | 18:24 |
| @kanzure | man why are there no 'socket saturation' articles out there. surely someone has tried to play with all 32,000 sockets simultaneously? | 18:26 |
| @kanzure | hah http://code.google.com/p/go/issues/detail?id=66 "golang: http server hangs after ~16,400 connections" | 18:27 |
| @kanzure | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2831434/how-to-retain-one-million-simultaneous-tcp-connections | 18:31 |
| @kanzure | "I've run tests (here: http://www.lenholgate.com/blog/2005/11/windows-tcpip-server-performance.html) with a low spec Windows Server 2003 machine and easily achieved more than 70,000 active TCP connections" | 18:31 |
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| @kanzure | "The main reason using TCP keep-alives were a non-starter was because in our testing, carriers handled them in "special" ways which usually meant they rarely or never actually reach ed the intended endpoint." | 18:43 |
| @kanzure | http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1593959 | 18:43 |
| @kanzure | urban airship did 37k connections with python/eventlet | 18:44 |
| @kanzure | https://www.evernote.com/shard/s1/note/c044af8b-4e8a-47b5-a618-82122a60ed26/hellblazer/DistributedSystems#st=p&n=c044af8b-4e8a-47b5-a618-82122a60ed26 | 18:44 |
| @kanzure | http://jon.doblados.net/2010/09/linux-kernel-tuning-for-c500k-urban-airship-blog/ | 18:44 |
| @kanzure | "To do this we made the socket servers pretty much just socket servers." | 18:46 |
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| @kanzure | pdx.edu subscriptions menu http://pastebin.com/PsmCMz2i | 19:17 |
| @kanzure | interscience, ieee xplore, nature publishing group (maybe?), sciencedirect, blackwell synergy, springerlink, ingentaconnect | 19:18 |
| yashgaroth | did the pdx thing turn out to work without signing up for classes? | 19:20 |
| @kanzure | yes, nmz787 dumped that list on pastebin | 19:21 |
| @kanzure | after logging in. | 19:21 |
| yashgaroth | right but did he get dem fulltextz | 19:22 |
| @kanzure | let the feast begin gentlemen | 19:22 |
| @kanzure | ezproxy doesn't limit your access to full text | 19:23 |
| @kanzure | it's just whatever subscription deal the university has with the publisher | 19:23 |
| yashgaroth | shit I wonder if any california state schools are that easy, I bet they've got some sweet subscrips | 19:25 |
| @kanzure | so far it looks like pdx.edu is the only one that offers this immediate access | 19:25 |
| @kanzure | some other schools seem to require transcripts or letters of recommendation | 19:25 |
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| yashgaroth | doesn't seem instant so far | 19:35 |
| @kanzure | 46% access on sciencedirect journals | 19:35 |
| yashgaroth | so do I need to wait for "A representative from the PSU Registration Office will review your application and you will be contacted with more information within three days" | 19:36 |
| @kanzure | ask nmz787 | 19:37 |
| @kanzure | 416-677-8207 | 19:37 |
| yashgaroth | ta | 19:38 |
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| @kanzure | let us know what he says | 19:42 |
| yashgaroth | +1 (416) 677-8207 - Ontario Parking Lot Services Ltd. ? | 19:43 |
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| @kanzure | yashgaroth: 412-677-8207 | 19:44 |
| @kanzure | this time confirmed.. http://www.nathanmccorkle.com/resume_10_2012.pdf | 19:44 |
| nmz787 | yashgaroth: | 19:47 |
| nmz787 | yashgaroth: it was prety instant but it was during the daytime so maybe they handcheck them all? | 19:48 |
| nmz787 | yashgaroth: did you use a portland area address? | 19:48 |
| @kanzure | let's use pdx.edu's address | 19:49 |
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| @kanzure | nmz787: so you have confirmed fulltext access? | 19:58 |
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| nmz787 | no | 19:59 |
| @kanzure | access denied? | 20:00 |
| nmz787 | confirmed | 20:01 |
| nmz787 | http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/cb3006424 | 20:01 |
| nmz787 | turns into this | 20:01 |
| nmz787 | http://pubs.acs.org.proxy.lib.pdx.edu/doi/pdf/10.1021/cb3006424 | 20:02 |
| nmz787 | the latter works when i log in | 20:02 |
| nmz787 | bbl, watchin movie | 20:02 |
| @kanzure | how can you watch a movie at a time like this | 20:03 |
| @kanzure | i'm throwing a huge party over this | 20:03 |
| joshcryer | leech the shit out of it kanzure | 20:14 |
| @kanzure | for leeching i can use the illicit access | 20:15 |
| superkuh | Does this require having a PSU ID? | 20:18 |
| @kanzure | it gives you a psu id | 20:18 |
| @kanzure | http://www.pdx.edu/registration/nondegree-register | 20:19 |
| @kanzure | "To be eligible to register for the first time, submit an online Non-Degree Entry form. The online process takes only a few minutes to complete and generates a student record so you may begin the registration process as soon as possible. [See the Priority Registration Schedule.] A non-refundable $25 proceessing fee applies and is charged to your credit card as part of the form completion process." | 20:19 |
| @kanzure | "The online registration period runs from Nov. 5, 2012 through Jan. 13, 2013." | 20:20 |
| @kanzure | oh oops that's just the deadline for winter 2013. it's probably rolling admission. | 20:20 |
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| yashgaroth | but it didn't give me a username | 20:42 |
| @kanzure | i think you get it by email | 20:42 |
| yashgaroth | nope, so maybe that's where the PSU office review comes in, if he submitted his during business hours | 20:42 |
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| @kanzure | hmm https://github.com/deanmao/node-hubbub | 21:43 |
| @kanzure | i've never really understood the point of jsdom. it seems to be in the same category as a compatibility layer? | 21:44 |
| @kanzure | "It's merely an integration library for the netsurf browser. It's the html parser for a real browser. I considered using the parser from other browsers like firefox or webkit, but netsurf had the fewest external dependencies." | 21:47 |
| nmz787 | yashgaroth: you there | 21:58 |
| nmz787 | ? | 21:58 |
| yashgaroth | ya | 21:58 |
| nmz787 | yashgaroth: the username is in the payment confirmation page | 21:58 |
| nmz787 | it said to save it | 21:58 |
| nmz787 | or print it | 21:58 |
| yashgaroth | nnnnoooooooooo | 21:58 |
| @kanzure | yashgaroth: backbackbackbackback | 21:58 |
| nmz787 | but yeah it had the student ID @ | 21:59 |
| nmz787 | # | 21:59 |
| yashgaroth | I prune tabs obsessively | 21:59 |
| nmz787 | and then a temp password | 21:59 |
| @kanzure | yashgaroth: undo close tab? | 21:59 |
| nmz787 | and it said to prefix the temp password with your 6 digit birthdate | 21:59 |
| nmz787 | ctrl-shift-t | 21:59 |
| nmz787 | you had to log in to odin | 21:59 |
| yashgaroth | closed like 3 hours ago, I'll go hunting through my history | 21:59 |
| nmz787 | http://pubs.acs.org.proxy.lib.pdx.edu/doi/pdf/10.1021/cb3006424 | 22:00 |
| nmz787 | whoops | 22:00 |
| nmz787 | https://oam.pdx.edu/idm/user/login.jsp | 22:00 |
| nmz787 | that's the one | 22:00 |
| @kanzure | this is why closing a tab is a bad idea | 22:00 |
| nmz787 | the confirm page is https://banweb.pdx.edu/pls/oprd/bwskalog.P_DispSigPage_cc?transaction_id= | 22:00 |
| nmz787 | where the ID is an 8 character long mixed case+nums | 22:01 |
| yashgaroth | Application not found. Restarting application process. | 22:01 |
| nmz787 | ctrl-h then search that URL | 22:01 |
| yashgaroth | no confirmation email? what is this, 1993? | 22:01 |
| nmz787 | nope | 22:01 |
| nmz787 | i was confused for 20-45 mins | 22:01 |
| nmz787 | then read that confirm tab carefully | 22:01 |
| nmz787 | To start your PSU computer account please visit the website below | 22:02 |
| nmz787 | https://oam.pdx.edu | 22:02 |
| yashgaroth | nope it's fucked | 22:04 |
| yashgaroth | well hopefully they'll think to include it in the review email | 22:06 |
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| @kanzure | yashgaroth: i got an email | 22:29 |
| yashgaroth | aaaaaagh | 22:30 |
| @kanzure | jrayhawk: i was just testing the process, don't fret. i think it's worth a few bucks to have an actually legit account for once. | 22:30 |
| yashgaroth | well I'll email them tomorrow, otherwise I'll sign up again...still costs less than a single journal article | 22:31 |
| @kanzure | yep | 22:32 |
| @kanzure | kinda sick isn't it | 22:32 |
| yashgaroth | even their fucking opinion articles are double-digit $s, like come on seriously | 22:32 |
| @kanzure | https://login.ezproxy.lib.pdx.edu/login sweet justice | 22:32 |
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| @kanzure | wait, no.. it seems to be http://proxy.lib.pdx.edu/menu instead | 22:36 |
| yashgaroth | it says "Please review the information below and print a copy for your records." but there's no information, it just says "Our automated process is unable to complete your request at this time" | 22:38 |
| yashgaroth | but I did get a receipt email this time? | 22:38 |
| @kanzure | the receipt email doesn't include the necessary information | 22:38 |
| yashgaroth | all it gave me was a reference # and invoice # | 22:39 |
| @kanzure | you are not having a good day :( | 22:39 |
| @kanzure | you should dispute one of the charges with your cc provider | 22:39 |
| yashgaroth | indeed | 22:40 |
| @kanzure | suck it elsevier http://www.nature.com.proxy.lib.pdx.edu/nature/journal/v438/n7067/pdf/nature04405.pdf | 22:40 |
| @kanzure | and nature publishing group | 22:41 |
| nmz787 | lol | 22:48 |
| nmz787 | good thing I need this class to get into super college, or else I may not have discovered this ;) | 22:48 |
| @kanzure | nmz787: what would it take to keep you out of super college? | 23:00 |
| nmz787 | access to equivalent resources with a better deal than $20k/year for teaching and/or on-the-clock research | 23:01 |
| @kanzure | what if you got $60k/year and you had to buy your own resources | 23:08 |
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| nmz787 | sure, how would that work? | 23:26 |
| nmz787 | tell me where to go within 20 miles to do that | 23:27 |
| nmz787 | trading teaching/lab/research for $60k/year? | 23:27 |
| @kanzure | i could probably find you a python gig in portland | 23:28 |
| @kanzure | that would pay at least that much | 23:28 |
| nmz787 | well that is not chemistry though | 23:28 |
| @kanzure | no, you would have to do chemistry things somewhere else, like at home. | 23:28 |
| nmz787 | maybe if it was a scientific problem | 23:28 |
| nmz787 | let me know more about this potential python gig | 23:30 |
| nmz787 | but that's still not teaching | 23:30 |
| nmz787 | right, and I like doing that | 23:30 |
| @kanzure | there are tons of python gigs flying around all the time | 23:31 |
| @kanzure | i don't have a specific one in mind. | 23:32 |
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