2013-02-09.log

--- Log opened Sat Feb 09 00:00:55 2013
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archelspaperbot: http://www.karger.com/Article/Pdf/11390701:33
paperbotno translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/b81236c659918f1462daeef9734965a.txt01:33
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kanzure"Does anyone in fact know what arXiv’s attitude is to batch-uploading old papers? Maybe they're cool with it already?"02:06
kanzurei wonder if you could just dump all sorts of crap on arxiv's lap.02:06
kanzureoh god people are listening to xp_prg "Thank you for taking out so much time to write all this for me. I cannot tell you how enlightening and guiding it was. This is was what I was looking for :) I would like to learn more from you. Could you help me out?"02:13
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brownieswhere?02:17
kanzurebrownies: just more diybio nonsense, https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/diybio/ajOF_600gVQ02:17
bkerokanzure: am I diybio nonsense?02:18
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kanzurehuh?02:19
kanzuretor service for pdf leaks http://articleak.allalla.com/02:28
kanzurehttp://jtdzkgzfpvhryjv6.onion/02:28
kanzurehttp://jtdzkgzfpvhryjv6.tor2web.org/02:29
kanzureseems to have no users or requests. kinda useless.02:33
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kanzurelooks like some asshole was spamming that link around, http://www.reddit.com/user/PYYMazeD02:35
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archelsheh that table seems rather underpopulated02:38
archels"hit the edit button and get on it" yes yes, I know02:39
kanzureJayDugger: http://prismscanner.org/02:40
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nmz787very cool02:43
nmz787kanzure: price?02:44
kanzurei was asking him, don't as kem02:44
kanzure*ask me02:44
nmz787kanzure: have you ever used kicad?02:48
kanzurea few times, not regularly02:48
archelsargh this 300 word limit on the abstract is doing my head in.02:57
archels322... getting there...03:05
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archelshum, I might have hit a local minimum.03:11
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phmSo if you were planning to put a huge bitcoin mine in the back of a truck, and power it from stolen electricity... How exactly would you do it? Any ideas?04:32
kanzureget a job04:32
phmHow does that help?04:32
kanzureyou can use your money to buy bitcoins04:32
phmI want to generate them.04:33
kanzureyou can make other people generate them for you by paying for it04:33
phmI don't want to do that.04:33
phmjrayhawk looks like Feynman. Coincidence?04:40
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kanzurehttp://th03.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2010/205/0/5/Richard_Feynman_by_SamSaxton.jpg04:48
phmWhy does he have all those CRTs?04:56
phmDid he live in a squat? What a pigsty!05:01
kanzurebecause he needs them to see things.05:02
Viper168I have a couple crts and they seemed ot be accumulating05:02
phmI doubt that.05:02
Viper168but now I've luckily moved to lcd05:02
Viper168ages after the rest of humanity05:03
phmlolz: http://heybryan.org/shots/setups/Superkuh_Jan22_06_desk_112956055_53fe3cf020.jpg05:05
phmPlease tell me these were taken in 1995.05:07
Viper168what was superkuh talking again05:08
Viper168the magnet wire is a nice touch, all desks should have a spool05:09
phmWhat was he taking? Acid?05:09
Viper168at least the room wouldn't get cold in winter05:10
kanzureyou associate monitors with acid?05:10
phmno.05:10
Viper168dunno, monitors always seem weird on such chemicals05:12
Viper168like strange dark blocks in the white spaces05:12
Viper168does weird stuff05:12
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JayDugger2006, judging by the file name. EXIF data left as an exercise for the reader.05:16
chris_99heh05:16
phmI thought you were futurists.05:17
JayDuggerThen and now.05:17
phmThese pix are just works of art? You don't actually use them, right?05:18
kanzurewe use pictures to communicate pixels to other people.05:18
phmStop being pedantic. It don't suit you.05:19
kanzurei answered your question.05:19
phmIn an annoying way. Gee, thanks!05:19
kanzureyou're welcome.05:19
phmGood to know.05:20
phmWhen does jrayhawk wake up?05:20
kanzurewhenever he feels like it. he will probably be online in 540 minutes.05:24
nmz787paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=4993574&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D499357405:24
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/fe174418a253c43d0f8a5087f97d0f2c.txt05:24
kanzurepaperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/iel5/4915264/4993545/04993574.pdf?arnumber=499357405:25
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/98c3e9c2e78fda8ce68ef3aaa6aab4fc.txt05:25
nmz787nope05:25
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nmz787cription05:25
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nmz787paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=5101287&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D510128705:28
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/7fe76aecea63157653ef16d389c77664.txt05:28
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nmz787paperbot: jap.aip.org/resource/1/japiau/v46/i11/p4965_s105:29
kanzureneeds a uri05:29
nmz787paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=110072&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D11007205:29
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/4fb2c10c1dda35a323bc087dc4ec07a4.pdf05:29
nmz787paperbot: http:// jap.aip.org/resource/1/japiau/v46/i11/p4965_s105:29
nmz787paperbot: http://jap.aip.org/resource/1/japiau/v46/i11/p4965_s105:29
paperboterror: HTTP 500 http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/bcb8504217d4370ef255135c3cd34296.txt05:30
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phmThere does not need to be any reason or infringement other than being identified with reasonable confidence to be a sock puppet, and no warning is required or encouraged when enforcing the sock puppet ban.05:34
phmlolz05:34
phmPrinciples insist upon tolerance and support of all identity modes that citizens may choose to adopt.05:35
phmWhat if I have MPD!?05:35
kanzurecan you go somewhere else to write those messages05:35
phmI could.05:35
kanzurei could remove you from this channel if it would help you do that05:35
phmI would not.05:36
phmit05:36
phmHave I violated your 'spirit of Construction' meta-rule?05:38
nmz787paperbot: scitation.aip.org/getpdf/servlet/GetPDFServlet?filetype=pdf&id=JAPIAU000046000011004965000001&idtype=cvips&doi=10.1063/1.321482&prog=normal05:39
kanzureuri again05:39
nmz787http://paperbot: scitation.aip.org/getpdf/servlet/GetPDFServlet?filetype=pdf&id=JAPIAU000046000011004965000001&idtype=cvips&doi=10.1063/1.321482&prog=normal05:40
kanzurenot quite05:40
nmz787paperbot: http://scitation.aip.org/getpdf/servlet/GetPDFServlet?filetype=pdf&id=JAPIAU000046000011004965000001&idtype=cvips&doi=10.1063/1.321482&prog=normal05:40
nmz787is late05:40
paperbotno translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/f2b98fd7b1b8c86d5e4c2857f20d1c78.pdf05:40
nmz787watermark05:40
kanzurepaperbot is not using pdfparanoia yet05:40
kanzurepdfparanoia does successfully remove aip.org watermarks though :)05:40
nmz787paperbot: http://http://eprints.lancs.ac.uk/20155/1/getPDF2.pdf05:41
paperbotInvalidURL: (LocationParseError(...), 'Failed to parse: Failed to parse: http:') (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/requests/models.py", line 558, in send)05:41
nmz787paperbot: http://eprints.lancs.ac.uk/20155/1/getPDF2.pdf05:41
paperbotno translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/1f2af3482983ac6f6b37ac633be47e72.pdf05:41
gnushahttps://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=357e268e Bryan Bishop: use pdfparanoia to remove watermarks05:45
gnushahttps://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=53de3f36 Bryan Bishop: scrub away watermarks in another situation05:45
gnushapaperbot: reload papers05:45
paperbotgnusha: <module 'papers' from '/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py'> (version: 2013-02-09 13:45:08)05:45
kanzurepaperbot: http://scitation.aip.org/getpdf/servlet/GetPDFServlet?filetype=pdf&id=JAPIAU000046000011004965000001&idtype=cvips&doi=10.1063/1.321482&prog=normal05:45
paperbotTypeError: file() argument 1 must be encoded string without NULL bytes, not str (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pdfparanoia-0.0.7-py2.7.egg/pdfparanoia/core.py", line 39, in scrub)05:45
kanzureaw :(05:45
kanzurewtf github :( "ERROR: GitHub is offline for maintenance. See http://status.github.com for more info."05:45
gnushahttps://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=db58d53c Bryan Bishop: pass StringIO to pdfparanoia05:47
gnushapaperbot: reload papers05:47
paperbotgnusha: <module 'papers' from '/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py'> (version: 2013-02-09 13:47:58)05:48
kanzurepaperbot: http://scitation.aip.org/getpdf/servlet/GetPDFServlet?filetype=pdf&id=JAPIAU000046000011004965000001&idtype=cvips&doi=10.1063/1.321482&prog=normal05:48
paperbotno translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/b9779d52432e726d93c076fd89f958c.pdf05:48
kanzureno more watermarks :)05:48
nmz787sweet05:54
phmHow many people here think that setting up an intentional community is important, short to mid term (let's say in the next 5 years)?05:56
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Viper168<phm> These pix are just works of art? You don't actually use them05:58
Viper168we speak a language mostly composed of stupid pictures05:58
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phmKanzure won't appreciate this discussion, so we're not going to have it.05:59
gnushahttps://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=7209fbb6 Bryan Bishop: README: mention pdfparanoia05:59
gnushahttps://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=143323b0 Bryan Bishop: README: better description of paperbot's manners05:59
gnushapaperbot: reload papers05:59
paperbotgnusha: <module 'papers' from '/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py'> (version: 2013-02-09 13:47:58)05:59
phmIf you understand the tracticus , feel free to PM me.06:00
nmz787is there a netsplit happening?06:02
nmz787i don't seem to follow ph m or viper 16806:02
nmz787paperbot: http://jap.aip.org/resource/1/japiau/v44/i11/p4908_s1?isAuthorized=no06:02
kanzureno he's just fucking nuts06:02
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/46dd955c976048c8828944f49a5a87b9.txt06:02
kanzurepaperbot: http://scitation.aip.org/getpdf/servlet/GetPDFServlet?filetype=pdf&id=JAPIAU000044000011004908000001&idtype=cvips&doi=10.1063/1.1662060&prog=normal06:04
nmz787paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=5099129&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fiel5%2F4915369%2F5099113%2F05099129.pdf%3Farnumber%3D509912906:04
paperbotno translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/4180ba20e49415be9c124b39e06ce85.pdf06:04
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/e6ea552abbdb443c9cd17824e6ea714f.txt06:04
kanzurei thought paperbot was working with aip06:04
kanzureoh it was only for apl.aip.org06:04
gnushahttps://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=a8abdb23 Bryan Bishop: support both jap.aip.org and apl.aip.org06:05
gnushapaperbot: reload papers06:05
paperbotgnusha: <module 'papers' from '/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py'> (version: 2013-02-09 14:05:38)06:05
nmz787paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/articleDetails.jsp?reload=true&arnumber=613673306:05
kanzurepaperbot: http://jap.aip.org/resource/1/japiau/v44/i11/p4908_s1?isAuthorized=no06:06
nmz787paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/articleDetails.jsp?reload=true&arnumber=613673306:06
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Eddy%20current%20measurements%20on%20ultrapure%20molybdenum%20and%20rhenium.pdf06:06
kanzurethere we go.06:06
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/b8ec36532f08bd88de9595fd64aeabdb.pdf06:06
kanzuremuch better.06:06
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/5c1d69cb8d37a5b65d65263f3c38e7f6.pdf06:06
nmz787what'd you do>?06:09
kanzurei made the aip.org check less specific, https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=a8abdb2306:09
kanzurereally, this whole block of code needs to be rewritten06:09
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nmz787night06:16
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kanzureadded a command-line interface (sort of?),07:54
kanzurehttps://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia/commit/775b927b427da27131d2c71e117bc0c87fb8aad607:54
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yashgarothman phm seems really butthurt08:45
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delinquentmeWEH10:18
klafkahey10:19
delinquentme#sudoroom10:19
delinquentmelawl that was embarassing10:19
klafkaLOL10:20
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klafkadammit10:22
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kanzurewow, dna20 was charging >$1.00/bp in 2011? http://www.reportergene.com/2011/08/gene-synthesis-review.html14:16
kanzurealso i didn't see this when it came out: http://blog.ginkgobioworks.com/2012/01/14/commercial-gene-synthesis/14:16
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yashgarothI could see them trying to pull that for their proprietary sequence optimization14:28
kanzurepaperbot: http://nar.oxfordjournals.org/content/4/2/353.short14:30
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/fd596fd1c03afbb1e4b9376205a24358.txt14:30
kanzurepaperbot: http://nar.oxfordjournals.org/content/4/2/353.full.pdf14:30
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/916cc90de1b21532497745c92b22a024.txt14:30
kanzure"In order to view content published before 1996 via the NAR site, access to the Oxford Journals digital archive is required."14:32
kanzurefuck that14:32
kanzuresay what? "Alternatively content published before 1996 may be freely obtained by visiting PubMed Central."14:32
kanzurepaperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC342437/14:33
paperbotno translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Arylsulfonyltetrazoles%2C%20new%20coupling%20reagents%20and%20further%20improvements%20in%20the%20triester%20method%20for%20the%20synthesis%20of%20deoxyribooligonucleotides..pdf14:33
kanzurewell alright.14:33
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klafkaman i just fucked up making tea14:42
kanzuredid you put your cat in it, a common mistake14:43
klafkanah i got impatient and it was a bit more than lukewarm whne i poured it14:45
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brownieswell, that's good. otherwise things could have gotten... catty.15:14
kanzurebrownies is our professor emiritus of cat jokes,15:20
kanzureon a sabatical, of course.15:20
browniesyes, things are busy, but occasionally i paws and drop in15:23
klafkalmao15:29
klafkawell said15:29
kanzurehttp://blogs.ch.cam.ac.uk/pmr/2013/02/07/institutional-readerism-the-royal-society-of-chemistry-isnt-putting-serious-effort-into-open-access/15:36
kanzurerightslink :(15:36
kanzurehttp://blogs.ch.cam.ac.uk/pmr/2012/11/08/is-the-royal-society-of-chemistry-really-cheaper-than-acs-rsc-charge-50-usd-per-student-per-page-for-teaching-materials/15:37
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juri_kanzure: re: cat: awesome.16:02
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nmz787ThomasEgi: what do you think of using this http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/639502705/TG2100FN_Eddy_current_0_1250um_coating.html17:23
nmz787ThomasEgi: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/4fb2c10c1dda35a323bc087dc4ec07a4.pdf17:24
nmz787ThomasEgi: http://eprints.lancs.ac.uk/20155/1/getPDF2.pdf17:25
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ThomasEginmz787, might be worth a try17:25
nmz787ThomasEgi: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/4180ba20e49415be9c124b39e06ce85.pdf17:25
nmz787since the material is molyb17:26
nmz787i figure it needs a piece of steel/iron below it17:26
nmz787since the gauge mentions a minimum piece thickness17:26
nmz787ThomasEgi: do you understand the probe sizes listed here?17:27
ThomasEgilisted where?17:27
ThomasEgiit needs something electrically conductive. as eddy currents only appear there.17:27
nmz787http://www.verniersales.com/Probe%20Catolog.pdf17:27
ThomasEgishould work with molyb tho.17:27
nmz787from alibaba 'Min. sample thickness: 0.3mm'17:28
nmz787so if i'm looking at a molyb sample that is 25 microns thick, seems like i need to add some really flat metal below it17:28
nmz787so the molyb acts as a non-ferrous 'coating'17:28
ThomasEgiyou may want to email the company producing that stuff17:29
ThomasEgithey know a lot more about their product than i do17:29
nmz787ThomasEgi: this was helpful, but I can't digest the simple version of this all exactly http://www.ndt-ed.org/EducationResources/CommunityCollege/EddyCurrents/Applications/thicknessmeasurements2.htm17:29
ThomasEgiespecially for such a special case.17:30
nmz787so is this like magnetic triangulation?17:30
ThomasEgiit's ways past 2am for me.. don't ask me stuff i never worked with at this time plz17:33
nmz787ahh, sorry, not past dinnertime here17:33
juri_nmz: i heard something interesting that might apply..17:33
juri_there is a ion drive that a hacker i know is in the process of testing.17:34
juri_they're sputtering gold at high rates of speed..17:34
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juri_and, a by-product of their testing is a monomolecular sheet of gold on the target side of the vacuum chamber.17:35
nmz787juri_: cool, i think the lab i'm working with here has a gold sputterrer, since that's often a step for rendering (non-conductive I think) materials visible with e-beams17:36
nmz787i dunno if it's the same exactly17:36
nmz787but it might be17:36
nmz787basically a vacuum chamber with parallel electrodes, one being a gold flat/coin17:37
nmz787and you put the material to be coated between the plates, pull decent vacuum, then apply high voltage17:37
juri_cute.17:38
juri_sounds like it could be the solution to your problem.17:38
ThomasEginmz787, you have a cold sputter nearby?17:41
ThomasEgianyway. anothertime. i'll get some rest17:42
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nmz787juri_: solution how?17:44
juri_a really thin layer of metal?17:45
nmz787juri_: i need to sense the thickness of a thin layer of molybdenum17:51
juri_resistance?18:21
nmz787juri_: this looks like something i might be able to prototype18:27
nmz787http://archives.sensorsmag.com/articles/0998/edd0998/index.htm18:27
juri_ooo. i've got something new on my reading list.18:56
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superkuhkanzure, I'm about to try that xml gold BTC->debit card company you linked me to. Was that just a random link or had you heard good things?22:28
kanzurei heard one good thing once, but i don't know anyone who has used it.22:31
superkuhAlright. I'll see how it goes.22:32
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gnushahttps://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=5fbeedd7 Bryan Bishop: remove extra periods from filenames23:29
gnushapaperbot: reload papers23:29
paperbotgnusha: <module 'papers' from '/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py'> (version: 2013-02-10 07:29:22)23:29
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kanzurehmm23:40
kanzurehttp://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=filetype%3Apdf+"Google+Indexer"+-site%3Aama-assn.org23:40
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strangewarphttp://www.dvice.com/2013-2-8/china-claims-successful-test-microwave-relativity-engine - Any opinions on this? I know it's iffy, but I want to know whether it's potentially plausible or an obvious hoax, and the only person I've shown the link to couldn't make it past "China" without giving me the internet equivalent of a pat on the head and a lollipop.23:44
cpopellanyone here played with dimethyl ketones in home 3d printing?23:45
kanzurewow this is insane, this journal shows you ads before loading an article: http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=56796123:45
cpopell*For surface finishes.23:45
kanzure"AdBlock Academic Edition" fuck23:45
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