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strangewarp | hmm | 00:01 |
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strangewarp | http://www.emdrive.com/yang-juan-paper-2012.pdf - Here's the relevant paper, on that propellantless microwave thruster. I've got skepticism set to maximum, and people in another channel are ragging on me for even reading about it because it's so obviously impossible that I apparently should reject the information without reviewing it... | 00:03 |
strangewarp | I can't seem to get any straight opinions on this thing from anyone, and that's annoying | 00:05 |
strangewarp | [01:04] <+NewtypeDan2> Timecube drive | 00:07 |
strangewarp | [01:06] <+NewtypeDan2> Four corner engine with four equal sides | 00:07 |
strangewarp | [01:06] <+NewtypeDan2> Bastards who are educated stupid don't know timecube engine | 00:07 |
kanzure | you guys should report more watermarks: https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia/issues?state=open | 00:08 |
strangewarp | I'm pretty sure it violates the third law of thermodynamics, hmm | 00:08 |
strangewarp | Damn, I got pretty brutally mocked by some friends just now over this thing, even though I was actively saying I'm skeptical as all heck over it. Insufficient dismissiveness will be met with 10 minutes of Timecube jokes, I guess | 00:20 |
strangewarp | Then again, in that group of friends, I'm regarded as The Robot Cult Guy, so. | 00:22 |
* strangewarp blah | 00:22 | |
cpopell | there is some seriously cool shit hidden in the annals of fdm stuff | 00:32 |
JayDugger | Let China sail its black EMdrive-ships into the skies of America. 1853 was a good year. | 00:41 |
brownies | strangewarp: i read the wired article about it | 00:51 |
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brownies | in its defense, it was not the stupidest thing i've ever heard. | 00:51 |
strangewarp | hmm... | 00:51 |
JayDugger | Watch the skies! | 00:51 |
brownies | is it sad that my first thought upon opening the PDF is, "man, i'd take this more seriously if they typeset it with latex" ? | 00:52 |
JayDugger | No, and that might provide a layer of crackpot detection. | 00:52 |
strangewarp | Yeah, a couple things about that new paper triggered my crackpot alarm as well. | 00:53 |
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brownies | http://www.emdrive.com/theorypaper9-4.pdf | 00:56 |
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nmz787 | paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0021979788900549 | 01:23 |
paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Basic%20characteristics%20and%20applications%20of%20aerosil.txt | 01:23 |
kanzure | paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=MiamiImageURL&_cid=272564&_user=1694017&_pii=0021979788900549&_check=y&_origin=article&_zone=toolbar&_coverDate=1988--30&view=c&originContentFamily=serial&wchp=dGLzVlV-zSkWA&pid=1-s2.0-0021979788900549-main.pdf&_valck=1&md5=02d931afc671ce0525ae8aaf7feba61d&ie=/sdarticle.pdf | 01:23 |
paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/d5377c6dd107cf3e87f9ea67f5ae785d.txt | 01:23 |
kanzure | huh. | 01:23 |
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jrayhawk | How does it violate the third law? | 01:52 |
jrayhawk | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momentum | 01:57 |
jrayhawk | errr, | 01:58 |
jrayhawk | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momentum#Classical_electromagnetism | 01:58 |
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strangewarp | Oh er, I was thinking of the Law of Conservation of Momentum, actually, since the engine seems like it ought to be a closed system and therefore produce no external effect.. | 01:59 |
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nmz787 | paperbot: http://iopscience.iop.org/0960-1317/21/10/105020 | 03:09 |
paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Anti-stiction%20coating%20of%20PDMS%20moulds%20for%20rapid%20microchannel%20fabrication%20by%20double%20replica%20moulding.pdf | 03:09 |
nmz787 | mwah haha hah | 03:09 |
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nmz787 | paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/elps.201100227/abstract?deniedAccessCustomisedMessage=&userIsAuthenticated=false | 04:35 |
paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/bbef73ea617b28cd867cd0349f5b27ab.txt | 04:36 |
nmz787 | paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/elps.201100227/pdf | 04:38 |
paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/b52a7244a7225c0f72b5c28b417abbe2.txt | 04:38 |
nmz787 | paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/store/10.1002/elps.201100227/asset/3138_ftp.pdf | 04:39 |
paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/7c89bfc9f3002f92e97e79fcdbe02a70.txt | 04:39 |
nmz787 | paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/elps.201100227/pdf | 04:39 |
paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/d22d75f93c7b2051dbff039c354b43f4.txt | 04:39 |
nmz787 | paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com.proxy.lib.pdx.edu/store/10.1002/elps.201100227/asset/3138_ftp.pdf?v=1&t=hd06kdkw&s=b72cab9a82196e878b04a808ca10962724d49ee6 | 04:40 |
paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/8a1042fadc83848c76d5695b0dd0d735.pdf | 04:40 |
nmz787 | paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/store/10.1002/elps.201100227/asset/3138_ftp.pdf?v=1&t=hd06kdkw&s=b72cab9a82196e878b04a808ca10962724d49ee6 | 04:40 |
paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/9f951fbbfa16b944fe06c2bee81c5b4c.pdf | 04:40 |
nmz787 | kanzure: why did paperbot store two same files? | 04:40 |
nmz787 | isn't the filename the file's hash or something? | 04:41 |
nmz787 | checksum? | 04:41 |
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strangewarp | Hmmmm | 04:56 |
strangewarp | I could maybe start a business delivering weed via drones, depending on how Colorado's weed laws and the US's commercial drone laws turn out.. | 04:57 |
chris_99 | lol | 04:57 |
strangewarp | it's the most 2010's business proposition ever, I know | 04:57 |
chris_99 | maybe you could combine it with an off-shore remote controlled boat grow-op | 04:58 |
strangewarp | Wouldn't need to, if you had a gagle of ringers who visited a grow co-op often enough to be able to claim to live there part-time (note: this is a known grey-area loophole in the current personal-level legalization laws, and may be closed when the commercial laws are released) | 04:59 |
strangewarp | *gaggle | 05:00 |
strangewarp | If that were the case, you'd have to give away the weed itself for free, but you could accept donations.. or have a membership fee for prompt delivery or something | 05:01 |
chris_99 | heh | 05:01 |
strangewarp | I'm pretty sure there are enough anti-weed people on the panel figuring out the commercial weed laws that delivery for commercial-licensed dispensaries will be totally off the table. | 05:01 |
strangewarp | Then again, drone delivery may not legally count as delivery, not necessarily.. | 05:04 |
strangewarp | And you could still deliver from a grow co-op, if the personal-growing loophole that could allow for legal-but-unlicensed co-ops isn't closed. | 05:05 |
strangewarp | I love the legal gymnastics of the idea, regardless.. | 05:05 |
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strangewarp | Hmmm | 05:27 |
strangewarp | Apparently you can still use drones commercially in the US, but they have to be manned drones, and the operator has to have an FAA Pilot License.. | 05:28 |
strangewarp | That's pretty useless | 05:28 |
chris_99 | how is a manned drone a drone ;) | 05:29 |
strangewarp | yeah exactly | 05:29 |
strangewarp | well like, driven by a human pilot on the ground, basically | 05:29 |
chris_99 | ah | 05:29 |
strangewarp | Betting the regulations for commercial UAV use in the US will require you to buy an extremely spendy license and follow a bunch of silly rules | 05:36 |
strangewarp | blah | 05:36 |
strangewarp | Maybe I'd have better luck in Uruguay... | 05:37 |
strangewarp | Hm, it seems drones under 55 pounds will be able to be used commercially around May 2013? Having trouble finding any information more specific than that, though | 05:39 |
strangewarp | maybe I should join a drone-enthusiast channel.. | 05:40 |
chris_99 | heh, i quite like the idea of Quadcopters | 05:41 |
chris_99 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ojIz5Mai2Rw | 05:41 |
chris_99 | ^ quadcopter vs the police | 05:42 |
strangewarp | hahaha | 05:43 |
strangewarp | "Oh no, French cops!" | 05:43 |
strangewarp | sacre bleu | 05:43 |
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strangewarp | Hmmm | 06:03 |
strangewarp | seems that thestate.ae has made an open request for futurist bloggers, for paid positions. I'm tempted to pitch them some sort of thing, even though I don't have any experience as a formal journalist or futurist.. | 06:08 |
strangewarp | link - http://www.thestate.ae/write-for-the-state-online/ | 06:12 |
chris_99 | cool | 06:15 |
chris_99 | hadn't seen that site before | 06:15 |
strangewarp | It's a good blog, if you're a blog-readish kind of person. | 06:15 |
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chris_99 | http://www.slashgear.com/laser-3d-prints-tiny-spaceship-the-width-of-a-human-hair-10268744/ | 08:48 |
strangewarp | Now make a functional one. | 08:48 |
chris_99 | heh | 08:49 |
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kanzure | nmz787: the filename is just a random string. | 10:09 |
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kanzure | "In bioprospecting for new enzymes, I could" | 10:45 |
kanzure | bio.. prospecting. | 10:45 |
kanzure | bioword | 10:45 |
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juri_ | ultrabioprospectism -- making german proud. | 11:03 |
archels | needs more squarequotes. | 11:14 |
strangewarp | ~=~*~ retweet this if you are a Beautiful Transhumaneste who does Bioprospecting every daye ~*~=~ | 11:23 |
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brownies | kanzure: that's a pretty nice bioportmanteau | 11:49 |
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kanzure | "Accidental cross pollination lawsuits have never happened" what | 12:21 |
phm_ | read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerando_%28novel%29 ? | 12:39 |
bkero | hehcellerando | 12:42 |
kanzure | phm_: no, i don't recommend it | 12:42 |
* bkero recommends it. | 12:43 | |
kanzure | charlie just reuses a lot of stuff from other books, you could get more entertainment out of orion's arm. | 12:44 |
phm_ | How did I guess you were going to say something like that? | 12:44 |
kanzure | because you read the logs and saw my opinion about charlie before. | 12:45 |
phm_ | You remind me of hipsters. Is there a word for science-hipsters? | 12:45 |
phm_ | I did not. | 12:45 |
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@kanzure | if you want to be a hipster, get out | 12:45 |
phm_ | I don't like them. That's why I'm not happy that you remind me of one. | 12:46 |
@kanzure | or, you're making up bullshit because you do like them | 12:46 |
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brownies | hahah | 12:47 |
yashgaroth | I just found a sweet vintage lab coat at the thrift shop guys | 12:48 |
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yashgaroth | stained with chemicals you've probably never heard of | 12:49 |
@kanzure | did you science it yet? | 12:49 |
yashgaroth | nah that's so last month | 12:49 |
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brownies | haha. nice. | 12:51 |
chris_99 | i wonder if theres a market for tie-dyed lab coats | 12:52 |
@kanzure | chris_99: the preceding conversation was not serious, please don't | 12:52 |
chido | the people at my lab don't even wear labcoats. I find that disappointing | 12:54 |
chris_99 | heh | 12:54 |
chris_99 | i just started playing around with gitlab, theres images for Xen, which work pretty nicely | 12:55 |
@kanzure | pfft gitlab. how about piny. | 12:56 |
chris_99 | piny? | 12:56 |
@kanzure | it's what diyhpl.us is using | 12:56 |
@kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/cgit | 12:56 |
@kanzure | http://piny.be/ | 12:57 |
chris_99 | hmm, i like gitlab's interface more than cgit's | 12:57 |
@kanzure | Edit RecentChanges Page History Repo Info | 12:57 |
@kanzure | Piny.be is a Git/Ikiwiki project hosting service using the freely available Piny management engine. | 12:57 |
@kanzure | oops | 12:57 |
@kanzure | i didn't mean to paste | 12:57 |
@kanzure | nobody is supposed to use cgit's web interface, you should use it from the shell | 12:57 |
chris_99 | hmm, gitlab does the wiki/issue stuff which is why i use the UI | 13:00 |
@kanzure | all diyhpl.us repos are wikis, so you can just use a normal text editor instead of a browser to edit a wiki | 13:00 |
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BioGuy | nmz787, you around? | 13:55 |
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@kanzure | hah "This work has been motivated by the fact that Google's teams contacted me to make me stop advising ACRA users to send their reports to Google Forms" | 15:10 |
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@kanzure | someone should study typing efficiency with and without latex gloves. | 15:21 |
@kanzure | maybe one day i will be this cool http://www.bitrebels.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Comic-Con-Cosplay-Costumes-10.jpg | 15:24 |
brownies | do you type slower with gloves? why should it matter? | 15:37 |
@kanzure | wind resistance? i dunno. | 15:38 |
@kanzure | i mean, air resistance. | 15:38 |
@kanzure | i mean, friction. | 15:39 |
@kanzure | paperbot: http://www.ploscompbiol.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pcbi.1002890 | 15:43 |
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@kanzure | the graph diagram on page 4 seems somewhat pointless -_- | 15:43 |
@kanzure | is that really necessary | 15:44 |
@kanzure | pdfparnaoia has been installed (from pypi) 1302 times. | 15:52 |
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@kanzure | http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=filetype%3Apdf+"Google+Indexer"+-site%3Aama-assn.org | 17:12 |
@kanzure | so, because of the way that publishers implement watermarks, "Google Indexer" appears in many pdfs that it indexes | 17:13 |
@kanzure | because for some reason it's the same across multiple publishers | 17:13 |
@kanzure | i wonder how this is configured? i don't think it's by user agent. | 17:13 |
@kanzure | sometimes the value in the watermark seems to be "guest" | 17:13 |
@kanzure | other times it seems to be the name of the university, or a person's name that has an account on the publisher's site. | 17:14 |
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@kanzure | so maybe it's a cookie that "Google Indexer" gets from the publisher? or all of these publishers give access to google by ip address? | 17:14 |
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@kanzure | for example, https://www.google.com/search?num=100&q=site%3Ajbc.org+"Google+Indexer" | 17:16 |
@kanzure | "Institution: Google Indexer" | 17:16 |
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@kanzure | https://www.google.com/search?q="Google+Indexer"+"66.249*" | 17:20 |
@kanzure | "All rights reserved. Information downloaded from jco.ascopubs.org and provided by Google Indexer on January 21, 2013 from 66.249.74.35" | 17:20 |
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@kanzure | "Journal of Human Lactation [Google Indexer]" | 17:24 |
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@kanzure | haha three people per week http://sivers.org/people-per-week | 19:10 |
@kanzure | what a lightweight | 19:10 |
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@kanzure | i seem to be doing 15/week on average(?) | 19:10 |
* kanzure pokes his data | 19:10 | |
@kanzure | so uh.. http://ojs.vre.upei.ca/index.php/psychomusicology/article/view/831 | 19:19 |
@kanzure | paperbot: http://ojs.vre.upei.ca/index.php/psychomusicology/article/view/831 | 19:20 |
paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/c0d71df0cd1ac8c612802daf86b52512.txt | 19:20 |
@kanzure | SELECT * FROM sessions WHERE session_id = g8aalr5u1jea12l9rnfdoeecv6 | 19:20 |
@kanzure | there's raw sql listed on this page | 19:20 |
@kanzure | and lots of php file path stuff | 19:20 |
@kanzure | google also has this page cached | 19:21 |
@kanzure | http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&tbo=d&site=&source=hp&q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fpsycnet.apa.org%2Fjournals%2Fpmu%2F7%2F2%2F109.pdf&oq=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fpsycnet.apa.org%2Fjournals%2Fpmu%2F7%2F2%2F109.pdf&gs_l=hp.3...102.883.0.1163.7.6.0.0.0.0.154.675.2j4.6.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.2.hp.qPCBh73QDYk | 19:21 |
@kanzure | and the google scholar session_id was a5oksjp24hl2d4dp83ce5e5jg5 which i think you could possibly use to get papers from this ojs installation, maybe, if the session_id is not tied to an ip address | 19:22 |
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yashgaroth | so jojack was like 'there's this guy who has some equipment he wants to donate, can you help move it in today' | 19:52 |
yashgaroth | two tissue culture hoods, two fume hoods, floor centrifuge, large bench centrifuge, six CO2 incubators, liquid handling robot, 20 vacuum pumps | 19:52 |
yashgaroth | oh and an HPLC | 19:53 |
yashgaroth | he's coming back tuesday with another similarly sized amount | 19:53 |
yashgaroth | oh and a -80 freezer and like three -20s | 19:53 |
yashgaroth | fuckin' 26 foot truck crammed to the brim | 19:54 |
@kanzure | "some" equipment | 19:56 |
yashgaroth | oh and an LN2 storage vessel | 19:56 |
@kanzure | i suggest starting inventory now while you're ahead | 19:56 |
yashgaroth | oh and an autoclave | 19:56 |
yashgaroth | too much inventory, not enough time | 19:56 |
@kanzure | setup a spreadsheet on google docs (or whatever) and force people to type shit up when you add it to your collection | 19:57 |
yashgaroth | anyway that's jojack's job | 19:57 |
@kanzure | if you don't do it now, you will never have an inventory | 19:57 |
@kanzure | this is speaking from experience :( | 19:57 |
yashgaroth | he also has various "reagents" in the -20s, didn't take a look | 19:57 |
@kanzure | and this equipment is working? | 19:57 |
yashgaroth | seems to be, we only plugged in the freezers | 19:58 |
yashgaroth | the TC hoods are the same model we had at our old job, same with the fume hood | 19:58 |
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yashgaroth | the vacuum pumps are a crapshoot, but like I say we have 20 to cannibalize; everything else appears quite good condition | 19:59 |
yashgaroth | anyway we have jcline to get all the electronic parts working | 19:59 |
yashgaroth | guy says he has shaking incubators in the next run, and with those I'd have everything I need equipment-wise | 20:00 |
@kanzure | floor centrifuge is just a euphemism for saying ultracentrifuge? | 20:02 |
yashgaroth | nah it only goes maybe 20,000g's, but you can do 6 liters at a time | 20:02 |
yashgaroth | ultracentrifuges are obsolete, at least the techniques they're used for | 20:02 |
yashgaroth | that was my big worry for expensive, fuck spinning down a 6 liter batch of fermentation in tiny tubes | 20:03 |
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delinquentme | nmz787, hey you around? | 20:04 |
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@kanzure | delinquentme: are you in sf? | 20:09 |
delinquentme | yeah | 20:22 |
@kanzure | did you move there? | 20:22 |
delinquentme | ja | 20:24 |
delinquentme | over at johns right now | 20:24 |
delinquentme | talking mas spec | 20:24 |
delinquentme | nmz787, prisms | 20:24 |
@kanzure | john schloendorn? | 20:28 |
@kanzure | or john cumbers | 20:28 |
@kanzure | fear the mysterious powers of google: | 20:28 |
@kanzure | watermark: http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/67/6/1108.full.pdf | 20:28 |
@kanzure | no watermark: http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fajcn.nutrition.org%2Fcontent%2F67%2F6%2F1108.full.pdf | 20:28 |
superkuh | Huh. | 20:29 |
superkuh | Neat. | 20:29 |
@kanzure | you can generate those urls easily via https://docs.google.com/viewer | 20:29 |
@kanzure | unfortunately it does not use the same ip address as google-indexer/googlebot :( | 20:30 |
@kanzure | but google instant preview uses the googlebot ip addresses.. sadly it does not seem to render pdfs. plus you would need some xss flaw to be able to get it to send you pdfs. | 20:31 |
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@kanzure | more details: https://groups.google.com/group/science-liberation-front/browse_thread/thread/a1cf073711b97b00 | 20:32 |
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delinquentme | schloendorns | 20:40 |
delinquentme | kanzure what do right now | 20:46 |
@kanzure | delinquentme: you could work on watermark removal, https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia/issues has some sample files that aren't yet working | 20:47 |
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@kanzure | hmm i bet 108.218.105.253 is schloendorn's ip address | 20:53 |
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@kanzure | yashgaroth: what do you mean ultracentrifuges are obsolete? all protocols that require them can be modified to use something less ridiculous? | 21:47 |
yashgaroth | the "spin for 38 hours at 5 million g's in a cesium or sucrose gradient" protocols have been mostly replaced with alternatives | 21:48 |
yashgaroth | maybe for separating organelles they'd be good, if you're into that | 21:49 |
@kanzure | heh, but i don't think i ever used a protocol that called for >30min of spin time | 21:49 |
@kanzure | yes i was into that | 21:49 |
yashgaroth | you ain't done enough time with ultras | 21:49 |
@kanzure | prolly not | 21:49 |
yashgaroth | dna purification is (was) a 24-hour deal, not sure about other stuff | 21:50 |
@kanzure | dna pelleting doesn't take that long | 21:51 |
@kanzure | ... does it? oh god what have i done. | 21:51 |
yashgaroth | nope, but back in ye olden days it was the best way to purify it | 21:51 |
yashgaroth | nah pelleting's about an hour, albeit at a fairly high speed | 21:51 |
@kanzure | olden days= 1990s? | 21:51 |
yashgaroth | mhm, pre-history | 21:51 |
yashgaroth | anyway, scripps has some publicly-accessible ultrafuges, not that they'd agree with that description | 21:52 |
@kanzure | in one of the labs i worked in, we had rows of them | 21:53 |
@kanzure | about the size of washing machines | 21:53 |
yashgaroth | I've never actually had to use one, and I'm fine with that | 21:54 |
yashgaroth | the one now at the lab is a j2-21, didn't get to see which rotor's in it tho | 21:56 |
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@kanzure | alyx_: hello | 22:13 |
alyx_ | kanzure: hihi | 22:14 |
@kanzure | what brings you this way? | 22:18 |
alyx_ | to learn about h+ | 22:19 |
alyx_ | I don't really know much | 22:19 |
archbox | http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2010/nov2010_The-Drug-Virtually-Everyone-Should-Ask-their-Doctor-About_01.htm | 22:39 |
archbox | wow. metformin seems really cool | 22:39 |
ManaLord | interesting... thanx | 22:40 |
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ManaLord | there are just a few synthetic compounds on the market I put my money on, and most were discovered before this crazy system where they earn money by keeping people sick... | 22:45 |
@yashgaroth | damn illuminati keeping the cure for cancer secret | 22:46 |
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archbox | ManaLord: what compounds? | 22:48 |
archbox | yashgaroth: haha | 22:48 |
ManaLord | methylene blue (helped cure malaria way back in the day), piracetam (and some of the derivatives), C60, hydrogen peroxide (useful for all kinds of things)... hmm... and possibly noopept... | 22:53 |
ManaLord | but the last one is just a new addition... | 22:53 |
archbox | I take the first two | 22:53 |
archbox | What dose do you supplement MB? | 22:54 |
ManaLord | yep, not togther, hope | 22:54 |
@yashgaroth | take it to #reddit-nootropics fellas | 22:54 |
archbox | MB isn't a noot | 22:54 |
@yashgaroth | I don't care | 22:54 |
ManaLord | I used to take it in my morning tea (cold tea), and I had it diluted in water in a bottle, so I don't know the exact dose, but it was pretty small. And for me it started to sort of clear things up, feeling cleaner... | 22:56 |
ManaLord | also it made me warmer | 22:57 |
ManaLord | after days of taking it, it increased blood-flow into hands and feet, possibly increasing metabolic rate | 22:58 |
ManaLord | I think it also made breathing more effective (a felt higher oxygen-uptake) | 22:59 |
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ManaLord | hello | 23:00 |
archbox | Same | 23:02 |
archbox | Blue piss? | 23:03 |
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nmz787 | BioGuy: hi | 23:11 |
ManaLord | hi | 23:18 |
ManaLord | no blue came out of any orifice... | 23:18 |
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