2013-02-10.log

--- Log opened Sun Feb 10 00:00:56 2013
strangewarphmm00:01
strangewarphttp://www.emdrive.com/yang-juan-paper-2012.pdf - Here's the relevant paper, on that propellantless microwave thruster. I've got skepticism set to maximum, and people in another channel are ragging on me for even reading about it because it's so obviously impossible that I apparently should reject the information without reviewing it...00:03
strangewarpI can't seem to get any straight opinions on this thing from anyone, and that's annoying00:05
strangewarp[01:04] <+NewtypeDan2> Timecube drive00:07
strangewarp[01:06] <+NewtypeDan2> Four corner engine with four equal sides00:07
strangewarp[01:06] <+NewtypeDan2> Bastards who are educated stupid don't know timecube engine00:07
kanzureyou guys should report more watermarks: https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia/issues?state=open00:08
strangewarpI'm pretty sure it violates the third law of thermodynamics, hmm00:08
strangewarpDamn, I got pretty brutally mocked by some friends just now over this thing, even though I was actively saying I'm skeptical as all heck over it. Insufficient dismissiveness will be met with 10 minutes of Timecube jokes, I guess00:20
strangewarpThen again, in that group of friends, I'm regarded as The Robot Cult Guy, so.00:22
* strangewarp blah00:22
cpopellthere is some seriously cool shit hidden in the annals of fdm stuff00:32
JayDuggerLet China sail its black EMdrive-ships into the skies of America. 1853 was a good year.00:41
browniesstrangewarp: i read the wired article about it00:51
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browniesin its defense, it was not the stupidest thing i've ever heard.00:51
strangewarphmm...00:51
JayDuggerWatch the skies!00:51
browniesis it sad that my first thought upon opening the PDF is, "man, i'd take this more seriously if they typeset it with latex" ?00:52
JayDuggerNo, and that might provide a layer of crackpot detection.00:52
strangewarpYeah, a couple things about that new paper triggered my crackpot alarm as well.00:53
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brownieshttp://www.emdrive.com/theorypaper9-4.pdf00:56
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nmz787paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/002197978890054901:23
paperbotno translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Basic%20characteristics%20and%20applications%20of%20aerosil.txt01:23
kanzurepaperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=MiamiImageURL&_cid=272564&_user=1694017&_pii=0021979788900549&_check=y&_origin=article&_zone=toolbar&_coverDate=1988--30&view=c&originContentFamily=serial&wchp=dGLzVlV-zSkWA&pid=1-s2.0-0021979788900549-main.pdf&_valck=1&md5=02d931afc671ce0525ae8aaf7feba61d&ie=/sdarticle.pdf01:23
paperbotno translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/d5377c6dd107cf3e87f9ea67f5ae785d.txt01:23
kanzurehuh.01:23
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jrayhawkHow does it violate the third law?01:52
jrayhawkhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momentum01:57
jrayhawkerrr,01:58
jrayhawkhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momentum#Classical_electromagnetism01:58
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strangewarpOh er, I was thinking of the Law of Conservation of Momentum, actually, since the engine seems like it ought to be a closed system and therefore produce no external effect..01:59
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nmz787paperbot: http://iopscience.iop.org/0960-1317/21/10/10502003:09
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Anti-stiction%20coating%20of%20PDMS%20moulds%20for%20rapid%20microchannel%20fabrication%20by%20double%20replica%20moulding.pdf03:09
nmz787mwah haha hah03:09
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nmz787paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/elps.201100227/abstract?deniedAccessCustomisedMessage=&userIsAuthenticated=false04:35
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/bbef73ea617b28cd867cd0349f5b27ab.txt04:36
nmz787paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/elps.201100227/pdf04:38
paperbotno translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/b52a7244a7225c0f72b5c28b417abbe2.txt04:38
nmz787paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/store/10.1002/elps.201100227/asset/3138_ftp.pdf04:39
paperbotno translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/7c89bfc9f3002f92e97e79fcdbe02a70.txt04:39
nmz787paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/elps.201100227/pdf04:39
paperbotno translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/d22d75f93c7b2051dbff039c354b43f4.txt04:39
nmz787paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com.proxy.lib.pdx.edu/store/10.1002/elps.201100227/asset/3138_ftp.pdf?v=1&t=hd06kdkw&s=b72cab9a82196e878b04a808ca10962724d49ee604:40
paperbotno translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/8a1042fadc83848c76d5695b0dd0d735.pdf04:40
nmz787paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/store/10.1002/elps.201100227/asset/3138_ftp.pdf?v=1&t=hd06kdkw&s=b72cab9a82196e878b04a808ca10962724d49ee604:40
paperbotno translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/9f951fbbfa16b944fe06c2bee81c5b4c.pdf04:40
nmz787kanzure: why did paperbot store two same files?04:40
nmz787isn't the filename the file's hash or something?04:41
nmz787checksum?04:41
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strangewarpHmmmm04:56
strangewarpI could maybe start a business delivering weed via drones, depending on how Colorado's weed laws and the US's commercial drone laws turn out..04:57
chris_99lol04:57
strangewarpit's the most 2010's business proposition ever, I know04:57
chris_99maybe you could combine it with an off-shore remote controlled boat grow-op04:58
strangewarpWouldn't need to, if you had a gagle of ringers who visited a grow co-op often enough to be able to claim to live there part-time (note: this is a known grey-area loophole in the current personal-level legalization laws, and may be closed when the commercial laws are released)04:59
strangewarp*gaggle05:00
strangewarpIf that were the case, you'd have to give away the weed itself for free, but you could accept donations.. or have a membership fee for prompt delivery or something05:01
chris_99heh05:01
strangewarpI'm pretty sure there are enough anti-weed people on the panel figuring out the commercial weed laws that delivery for commercial-licensed dispensaries will be totally off the table.05:01
strangewarpThen again, drone delivery may not legally count as delivery, not necessarily..05:04
strangewarpAnd you could still deliver from a grow co-op, if the personal-growing loophole that could allow for legal-but-unlicensed co-ops isn't closed.05:05
strangewarpI love the legal gymnastics of the idea, regardless..05:05
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strangewarpHmmm05:27
strangewarpApparently you can still use drones commercially in the US, but they have to be manned drones, and the operator has to have an FAA Pilot License..05:28
strangewarpThat's pretty useless05:28
chris_99how is a manned drone a drone ;)05:29
strangewarpyeah exactly05:29
strangewarpwell like, driven by a human pilot on the ground, basically05:29
chris_99ah05:29
strangewarpBetting the regulations for commercial UAV use in the US will require you to buy an extremely spendy license and follow a bunch of silly rules05:36
strangewarpblah05:36
strangewarpMaybe I'd have better luck in Uruguay...05:37
strangewarpHm, it seems drones under 55 pounds will be able to be used commercially around May 2013? Having trouble finding any information more specific than that, though05:39
strangewarpmaybe I should join a drone-enthusiast channel..05:40
chris_99heh, i quite like the idea of Quadcopters05:41
chris_99http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ojIz5Mai2Rw05:41
chris_99^ quadcopter vs the police05:42
strangewarphahaha05:43
strangewarp"Oh no, French cops!"05:43
strangewarpsacre bleu05:43
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strangewarpHmmm06:03
strangewarpseems that thestate.ae has made an open request for futurist bloggers, for paid positions. I'm tempted to pitch them some sort of thing, even though I don't have any experience as a formal journalist or futurist..06:08
strangewarplink - http://www.thestate.ae/write-for-the-state-online/06:12
chris_99cool06:15
chris_99hadn't seen that site before06:15
strangewarpIt's a good blog, if you're a blog-readish kind of person.06:15
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chris_99http://www.slashgear.com/laser-3d-prints-tiny-spaceship-the-width-of-a-human-hair-10268744/08:48
strangewarpNow make a functional one.08:48
chris_99heh08:49
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kanzurenmz787: the filename is just a random string.10:09
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kanzure"In bioprospecting for new enzymes, I could"10:45
kanzurebio.. prospecting.10:45
kanzurebioword10:45
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juri_ultrabioprospectism -- making german proud.11:03
archelsneeds more squarequotes.11:14
strangewarp~=~*~ retweet this if you are a Beautiful Transhumaneste who does Bioprospecting every daye ~*~=~11:23
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brownieskanzure: that's a pretty nice bioportmanteau11:49
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kanzure"Accidental cross pollination lawsuits have never happened" what12:21
phm_read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerando_%28novel%29 ?12:39
bkerohehcellerando12:42
kanzurephm_: no, i don't recommend it12:42
* bkero recommends it.12:43
kanzurecharlie just reuses a lot of stuff from other books, you could get more entertainment out of orion's arm.12:44
phm_How did I guess you were going to say something like that?12:44
kanzurebecause you read the logs and saw my opinion about charlie before.12:45
phm_You remind me of hipsters. Is there a word for science-hipsters?12:45
phm_I did not.12:45
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@kanzureif you want to be a hipster, get out12:45
phm_I don't like them. That's why I'm not happy that you remind me of one.12:46
@kanzureor, you're making up bullshit because you do like them12:46
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brownieshahah12:47
yashgarothI just found a sweet vintage lab coat at the thrift shop guys12:48
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yashgarothstained with chemicals you've probably never heard of12:49
@kanzuredid you science it yet?12:49
yashgarothnah that's so last month12:49
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brownieshaha. nice.12:51
chris_99i wonder if theres a market for tie-dyed lab coats12:52
@kanzurechris_99: the preceding conversation was not serious, please don't12:52
chidothe people at my lab don't even wear labcoats. I find that disappointing12:54
chris_99heh12:54
chris_99i just started playing around with gitlab, theres images for Xen, which work pretty nicely12:55
@kanzurepfft gitlab. how about piny.12:56
chris_99piny?12:56
@kanzureit's what diyhpl.us is using12:56
@kanzurehttp://diyhpl.us/cgit12:56
@kanzurehttp://piny.be/12:57
chris_99hmm, i like gitlab's interface more than cgit's12:57
@kanzureEdit RecentChanges Page History Repo Info12:57
@kanzurePiny.be is a Git/Ikiwiki project hosting service using the freely available Piny management engine.12:57
@kanzureoops12:57
@kanzurei didn't mean to paste12:57
@kanzurenobody is supposed to use cgit's web interface, you should use it from the shell12:57
chris_99hmm, gitlab does the wiki/issue stuff which is why i use  the UI13:00
@kanzureall diyhpl.us repos are wikis, so you can just use a normal text editor instead of a browser to edit a wiki13:00
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BioGuynmz787, you around?13:55
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@kanzurehah "This work has been motivated by the fact that Google's teams contacted me to make me stop advising ACRA users to send their reports to Google Forms"15:10
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@kanzuresomeone should study typing efficiency with and without latex gloves.15:21
@kanzuremaybe one day i will be this cool http://www.bitrebels.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Comic-Con-Cosplay-Costumes-10.jpg15:24
browniesdo you type slower with gloves? why should it matter?15:37
@kanzurewind resistance? i dunno.15:38
@kanzurei mean, air resistance.15:38
@kanzurei mean, friction.15:39
@kanzurepaperbot: http://www.ploscompbiol.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pcbi.100289015:43
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@kanzurethe graph diagram on page 4 seems somewhat pointless -_-15:43
@kanzureis that really necessary15:44
@kanzurepdfparnaoia has been installed (from pypi) 1302 times.15:52
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@kanzurehttp://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=filetype%3Apdf+"Google+Indexer"+-site%3Aama-assn.org17:12
@kanzureso, because of the way that publishers implement watermarks, "Google Indexer" appears in many pdfs that it indexes17:13
@kanzurebecause for some reason it's the same across multiple publishers17:13
@kanzurei wonder how this is configured? i don't think it's by user agent.17:13
@kanzuresometimes the value in the watermark seems to be "guest"17:13
@kanzureother times it seems to be the name of the university, or a person's name that has an account on the publisher's site.17:14
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@kanzureso maybe it's a cookie that "Google Indexer" gets from the publisher? or all of these publishers give access to google by ip address?17:14
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@kanzurefor example, https://www.google.com/search?num=100&q=site%3Ajbc.org+"Google+Indexer"17:16
@kanzure"Institution: Google Indexer"17:16
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@kanzurehttps://www.google.com/search?q="Google+Indexer"+"66.249*"17:20
@kanzure"All rights reserved. Information downloaded from jco.ascopubs.org and provided by Google Indexer on January 21, 2013 from 66.249.74.35"17:20
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@kanzure"Journal of Human Lactation [Google Indexer]"17:24
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@kanzurehaha three people per week http://sivers.org/people-per-week19:10
@kanzurewhat a lightweight19:10
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@kanzurei seem to be doing 15/week on average(?)19:10
* kanzure pokes his data19:10
@kanzureso uh.. http://ojs.vre.upei.ca/index.php/psychomusicology/article/view/83119:19
@kanzurepaperbot: http://ojs.vre.upei.ca/index.php/psychomusicology/article/view/83119:20
paperbotno translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/c0d71df0cd1ac8c612802daf86b52512.txt19:20
@kanzureSELECT * FROM sessions WHERE session_id = g8aalr5u1jea12l9rnfdoeecv619:20
@kanzurethere's raw sql listed on this page19:20
@kanzureand lots of php file path stuff19:20
@kanzuregoogle also has this page cached19:21
@kanzurehttp://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&tbo=d&site=&source=hp&q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fpsycnet.apa.org%2Fjournals%2Fpmu%2F7%2F2%2F109.pdf&oq=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fpsycnet.apa.org%2Fjournals%2Fpmu%2F7%2F2%2F109.pdf&gs_l=hp.3...102.883.0.1163.7.6.0.0.0.0.154.675.2j4.6.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.2.hp.qPCBh73QDYk19:21
@kanzureand the google scholar session_id was a5oksjp24hl2d4dp83ce5e5jg5 which i think you could possibly use to get papers from this ojs installation, maybe, if the session_id is not tied to an ip address19:22
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yashgarothso jojack was like 'there's this guy who has some equipment he wants to donate, can you help move it in today'19:52
yashgarothtwo tissue culture hoods, two fume hoods, floor centrifuge, large bench centrifuge, six CO2 incubators, liquid handling robot, 20 vacuum pumps19:52
yashgarothoh and an HPLC19:53
yashgarothhe's coming back tuesday with another similarly sized amount19:53
yashgarothoh and a -80 freezer and like three -20s19:53
yashgarothfuckin' 26 foot truck crammed to the brim19:54
@kanzure"some" equipment19:56
yashgarothoh and an LN2 storage vessel19:56
@kanzurei suggest starting inventory now while you're ahead19:56
yashgarothoh and an autoclave19:56
yashgarothtoo much inventory, not enough time19:56
@kanzuresetup a spreadsheet on google docs (or whatever) and force people to type shit up when you add it to your collection19:57
yashgarothanyway that's jojack's job19:57
@kanzureif you don't do it now, you will never have an inventory19:57
@kanzurethis is speaking from experience :(19:57
yashgarothhe also has various "reagents" in the -20s, didn't take a look19:57
@kanzureand this equipment is working?19:57
yashgarothseems to be, we only plugged in the freezers19:58
yashgaroththe TC hoods are the same model we had at our old job, same with the fume hood19:58
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yashgaroththe vacuum pumps are a crapshoot, but like I say we have 20 to cannibalize; everything else appears quite good condition19:59
yashgarothanyway we have jcline to get all the electronic parts working19:59
yashgarothguy says he has shaking incubators in the next run, and with those I'd have everything I need equipment-wise20:00
@kanzurefloor centrifuge is just a euphemism for saying ultracentrifuge?20:02
yashgarothnah it only goes maybe 20,000g's, but you can do 6 liters at a time20:02
yashgarothultracentrifuges are obsolete, at least the techniques they're used for20:02
yashgaroththat was my big worry for expensive, fuck spinning down a 6 liter batch of fermentation in tiny tubes20:03
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delinquentmenmz787, hey you around?20:04
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@kanzuredelinquentme: are you in sf?20:09
delinquentmeyeah20:22
@kanzuredid you move there?20:22
delinquentmeja20:24
delinquentmeover at johns right now20:24
delinquentmetalking mas spec20:24
delinquentmenmz787, prisms20:24
@kanzurejohn schloendorn?20:28
@kanzureor john cumbers20:28
@kanzurefear the mysterious powers of google:20:28
@kanzurewatermark: http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/67/6/1108.full.pdf20:28
@kanzureno watermark: http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fajcn.nutrition.org%2Fcontent%2F67%2F6%2F1108.full.pdf20:28
superkuhHuh.20:29
superkuhNeat.20:29
@kanzureyou can generate those urls easily via https://docs.google.com/viewer20:29
@kanzureunfortunately it does not use the same ip address as google-indexer/googlebot :(20:30
@kanzurebut google instant preview uses the googlebot ip addresses.. sadly it does not seem to render pdfs. plus you would need some xss flaw to be able to get it to send you pdfs.20:31
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@kanzuremore details: https://groups.google.com/group/science-liberation-front/browse_thread/thread/a1cf073711b97b0020:32
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delinquentmeschloendorns20:40
delinquentmekanzure what do right now20:46
@kanzuredelinquentme: you could work on watermark removal, https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia/issues has some sample files that aren't yet working20:47
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@kanzurehmm i bet 108.218.105.253 is schloendorn's ip address20:53
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@kanzureyashgaroth: what do you mean ultracentrifuges are obsolete? all protocols that require them can be modified to use something less ridiculous?21:47
yashgaroththe "spin for 38 hours at 5 million g's in a cesium or sucrose gradient" protocols have been mostly replaced with alternatives21:48
yashgarothmaybe for separating organelles they'd be good, if you're into that21:49
@kanzureheh, but i don't think i ever used a protocol that called for >30min of spin time21:49
@kanzureyes i was into that21:49
yashgarothyou ain't done enough time with ultras21:49
@kanzureprolly not21:49
yashgarothdna purification is (was) a 24-hour deal, not sure about other stuff21:50
@kanzuredna pelleting doesn't take that long21:51
@kanzure... does it? oh god what have i done.21:51
yashgarothnope, but back in ye olden days it was the best way to purify it21:51
yashgarothnah pelleting's about an hour, albeit at a fairly high speed21:51
@kanzureolden days= 1990s?21:51
yashgarothmhm, pre-history21:51
yashgarothanyway, scripps has some publicly-accessible ultrafuges, not that they'd agree with that description21:52
@kanzurein one of the labs i worked in, we had rows of them21:53
@kanzureabout the size of washing machines21:53
yashgarothI've never actually had to use one, and I'm fine with that21:54
yashgaroththe one now at the lab is a j2-21, didn't get to see which rotor's in it tho21:56
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@kanzurealyx_: hello22:13
alyx_kanzure: hihi22:14
@kanzurewhat brings you this way?22:18
alyx_to learn about h+22:19
alyx_I don't really know much22:19
archboxhttp://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2010/nov2010_The-Drug-Virtually-Everyone-Should-Ask-their-Doctor-About_01.htm22:39
archboxwow. metformin seems really cool22:39
ManaLordinteresting... thanx22:40
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ManaLordthere are just a few synthetic compounds on the market I put my money on, and most were discovered before this crazy system where they earn money by keeping people sick...22:45
@yashgarothdamn illuminati keeping the cure for cancer secret22:46
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archboxManaLord: what compounds?22:48
archboxyashgaroth: haha22:48
ManaLordmethylene blue (helped cure malaria way back in the day), piracetam (and some of the derivatives), C60, hydrogen peroxide (useful for all kinds of things)... hmm... and possibly noopept...22:53
ManaLordbut the last one is just a new addition...22:53
archboxI take the first two22:53
archboxWhat dose do you supplement MB?22:54
ManaLordyep, not togther,  hope22:54
@yashgarothtake it to #reddit-nootropics fellas22:54
archboxMB isn't a noot22:54
@yashgarothI don't care22:54
ManaLordI used to take it in my morning tea (cold tea), and I had it diluted in water in a bottle, so I don't know the exact dose, but it was pretty small. And for me it started to sort of clear things up, feeling cleaner...22:56
ManaLordalso it made me warmer22:57
ManaLordafter days of taking it, it increased blood-flow into hands and feet, possibly increasing metabolic rate22:58
ManaLordI think it also made breathing more effective (a felt higher oxygen-uptake)22:59
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ManaLordhello23:00
archboxSame23:02
archboxBlue piss?23:03
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nmz787BioGuy: hi23:11
ManaLordhi23:18
ManaLordno blue came out of any orifice...23:18
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