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| kanzure | neuron 7.3 released.. http://www.neuron.yale.edu/neuron/download | 00:05 |
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| kanzure | with documentation now http://www.neuron.yale.edu/neuron/static/new_doc/index.html | 00:05 |
| kanzure | "Reaction diffusion in one dimension can now be specified using Python classes and methods ... we are working to extend this to two- and three-dimensional reaction-diffusion. Previously it was necessary to use NMODL for reaction-diffusion. We expect that interpreter-based specification of reaction-diffusion will eventually replace this application of NMODL." | 00:06 |
| kanzure | "Inter-host communication can now use the ParallelContext.py_alltoall() to send distinct arbitrary Python objects to all the other ranks." | 00:07 |
| kanzure | "neuron.nrn_dll() gives Python access to the C-language internals of NEURON. This makes all internal NEURON functions, variables, etc., available through a ctypes object." | 00:07 |
| kanzure | nrn_dll... what? this isn't even windows-only. | 00:07 |
| archels | they're moving towards 3D mesh models and full reaction-diffusion simulations? awesome http://www.neuron.yale.edu/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=1495 | 00:09 |
| kanzure | "We are planning to augment NEURON to implement biochemical reaction-diffusion (RD) as well as facilitated cytoplasmic transport in NEURON. This would involve complementing the present integration of the one-dimensional cable equation with a meshed integration of diffusing reactants in multiple 3D (cytosolic, intranuclear, intravacuolar) and 2D (intramembranous) compartments" | 00:11 |
| kanzure | weird i didn't know neuron had sbml things. | 00:12 |
| kanzure | "Somewhat related to this is the following short utility for converting SBML to native NEURON code (NMODLfiles):" http://www.neuroml.org/neuron_tools.php | 00:12 |
| kanzure | "Note though that reaction & diffusion in 3D will probably be outside the scope of NeuroML v2.0;" | 00:12 |
| archels | sbml-spatial seems rather dead | 00:14 |
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| archels | "James Randi, whose organization, the James Randi Education Foundation, has a long-standing offer: prove you have paranormal abilities and they'll give you $1 Million" | 00:38 |
| archels | get your neural implants ready | 00:38 |
| kanzure | there's been long-standing criticism about his long-standing offer. the slashdot crowd really hates him for some archane reason. | 00:47 |
| archels | I don't care I just want the $1 mil | 00:48 |
| archels | if mice can do it, so can we! | 00:48 |
| kanzure | the criticisms were probably something about how poor he demonstrates his understanding of statistics? no this wasn't it.. hrm. | 00:49 |
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| rigel | randi is kind of a smarmy dick | 00:57 |
| rigel | though that should make /.ers like him, i would imagine | 00:57 |
| rigel | god, when i get finished watching my hours of fucking lecture videos i have no energy to try and play around with code | 00:58 |
| rigel | i cant even bring myself to fire up my damn vm | 00:58 |
| kanzure | the solution is to always have the vm running | 00:58 |
| brownies | why are you watching hours of lecture videos? | 00:58 |
| kanzure | medical school | 00:58 |
| brownies | i might argue the solution is not to watch hours of lecture videos | 00:58 |
| brownies | ah | 00:58 |
| kanzure | there are little excuses to not always be running 5 virtual machines when you have 32 GB RAM.. | 00:59 |
| rigel | i dont even know why i run the machine in the living room | 01:00 |
| rigel | oh yeah, media servage | 01:00 |
| rigel | i really should take that drive offline though and put it elsewhere | 01:01 |
| kanzure | living rooms were always curious to me. i could never get the parental units to show me the death room. | 01:01 |
| rigel | i cant be spending 50w just on the off chance i need to play a video | 01:01 |
| rigel | i only do that once or twice a week anyway | 01:01 |
| kanzure | why not? | 01:01 |
| rigel | its just wasteful | 01:01 |
| rigel | i have my RPi for running actual required server things | 01:01 |
| rigel | thats like 2w | 01:02 |
| eleitl | sivoais, File not available The upload was interrupted. | 01:06 |
| sivoais | eleitl: let me reupload | 01:08 |
| sivoais | eleitl: <http://ge.tt/7ys5o1d/v/0> | 01:10 |
| sivoais | must have been a bad network before | 01:10 |
| rigel | so, motherfucker, these people forked this swf package but have not fixed it to my satisfaction | 01:16 |
| rigel | pyswf | 01:17 |
| rigel | it still does not properly render swf frames as svg's | 01:17 |
| kanzure | swf frames to svg sounds like a useful thing | 01:18 |
| kanzure | i'm often using flasm -d to dump swf stuff for investigating things | 01:19 |
| rigel | yeah | 01:20 |
| rigel | it would be if it worked | 01:20 |
| rigel | you can use swftools with undocumented flags to render to a particular resolution | 01:21 |
| rigel | but then you have these gigantic png's | 01:21 |
| kanzure | you could use phantomjs 1.4 (before ariya pulled out flash support) | 01:21 |
| rigel | im not sure how that would help | 01:21 |
| kanzure | but it wont be the raw frames obviously | 01:21 |
| kanzure | well you can take screenshots as frequently as you want | 01:22 |
| kanzure | oh, which wont be svg. well whatever. | 01:22 |
| rigel | screenshots are exactly the wrong approach | 01:22 |
| rigel | as are bmp's | 01:22 |
| kanzure | i'm not sure svg captures all of the swf animation features anyway. | 01:22 |
| rigel | let's say, hypothetically, that you have a bunch of swf files that are one frame each for pages of a 500pg book, that have been rendered with one of the multiple pdf to swf engines | 01:23 |
| rigel | just for argument's sake | 01:23 |
| rigel | now, in order to convert that back to something print quality, you can take those swf files, render to png, but in order to do so adequately, you have to blow up the resolution with swftools by like 4x | 01:24 |
| rigel | which means your files are correspondingly larger | 01:24 |
| kanzure | yes but at least it wouldn't be swf or pdf | 01:25 |
| rigel | so you go from a 20mb pdf file to 20mb of swf's to 500mb of png's | 01:25 |
| rigel | and it is non-searchable | 01:25 |
| kanzure | can you search the swf version? | 01:25 |
| rigel | only with some crappy viewer | 01:26 |
| rigel | that hypothetically someone hasnt figured out how to use offline | 01:26 |
| kanzure | i wonder if calibre has a thing that parses evil swf ebooks | 01:26 |
| rigel | if that could work, pointing at a set of local files and using a swf viewer that includes search, that would be nearly as good as converting back to pdf | 01:27 |
| kanzure | http://calibre-ebook.com/ | 01:31 |
| * kanzure sleeps | 01:31 | |
| rigel | youre going to have to be more specific than that | 01:31 |
| eleitl | thank you, sivoais | 01:40 |
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| eleitl | wtf are backwards mozzies | 01:54 |
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| eleitl | paperbot: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/ja310897r | 04:21 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/d5e199a9d95a3a8a78036ef930af18cc.pdf | 04:21 |
| eleitl | That paperbot think kicks ass. Thanks, kanzure. | 04:22 |
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| kanzure | http://biohackspace.org/the-diy-bio-salon-comes-to-london/ | 11:21 |
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| gnusha_ | https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=cb3695f3 Bryan Bishop: add london/diybio article | 11:25 |
| brownies | a "salon" ? | 11:31 |
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| kanzure | brownies: europeans are weird like that. they should have just called it "a thing where people show up and talk to each other". | 11:32 |
| kanzure | i'm not sure why ellen was overseas though. did they pay for her ticket? | 11:33 |
| brownies | "Cathal is the only biohacker in Europe to have had his lab licensed by the authorities to work with genetically-modified organisms. He described his makeshift lab gear, including a power-drill centrifuge and a coffee-can PCR machine" | 11:34 |
| brownies | not exactly the most comforting sentences to put together | 11:34 |
| kanzure | don't you remember talking with cathal in here? | 11:34 |
| brownies | what's his handle? | 11:35 |
| kanzure | cathalgarvey | 11:35 |
| brownies | ...perhaps. | 11:36 |
| eudoxia_ | isn't he the guy who made the dremelfuge | 11:36 |
| eudoxia_ | oh he is http://www.thingiverse.com/cathalgarvey/designs | 11:37 |
| kanzure | that's what they meant by "power-drill centrifuge" | 11:37 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/cgit/dremelfuge | 11:37 |
| eudoxia_ | i should've guessed | 11:37 |
| eudoxia_ | i remember that package because other than lego.git it's the only skdb package ever | 11:37 |
| kanzure | there's also thread.git and scrwe.git | 11:38 |
| kanzure | *screw.git | 11:38 |
| eudoxia_ | i don't remember those | 11:38 |
| kanzure | because you are a slacker. are you going to write software anytime soon? | 11:38 |
| eudoxia_ | but college makes me sooo tireeedd | 11:39 |
| kanzure | friends don't let friends do college | 11:42 |
| brownies | but all the cool kids are doing it! | 11:43 |
| eudoxia_ | i understand why you didn't go for it | 11:43 |
| eudoxia_ | i'm always tired and bored and i don't think a day has gone by where i didn't fall asleep in class | 11:43 |
| brownies | buy more coffee, take fewer shitty classes? | 11:43 |
| kanzure | the one thing i regret about college is that i didn't just walk into the classes i actually cared about | 11:44 |
| kanzure | most of the time they don't care if someone is hanging out during a cool lecture | 11:44 |
| kanzure | "PDEs for loop quantum gravity? why yes, yes i will sit here" | 11:44 |
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| eudoxia_ | i think i'm going to take fewer shitty classes, yes | 11:49 |
| eudoxia_ | i'll just read the books and download the pdfs with the problems | 11:49 |
| kanzure | http://www.tandf.co.uk/journals/pdf/open-access-survey-march2013.pdf | 11:49 |
| kanzure | "It's worth reviewing because it includes almost 15,000 responses from the 83,000 authors who published in Taylor and Frances journals in 2011. It's certainly biased (as are all surveys) because it only includes those who've already chosen that publisher, but still a good read." | 11:49 |
| kanzure | "There's much more detail in the the survey than just a laundry list of licenses, including questions about authors views on various types of reuse, importance of data vs text, etc. It includes not only author preferences but also author answers about their institutions policies and those of their funders. It's a 30 page report and includes an additional 16 pages containing the complete text of the survey." | 11:49 |
| ThomasEgi | paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4084049 | 11:50 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/b3cd8682035736eff8f27abe2616b02e.txt | 11:50 |
| ThomasEgi | hm. not quite.. | 11:50 |
| kanzure | http://poeticeconomics.blogspot.ca/2013/03/taylor-francis-open-access-survey.html | 11:51 |
| kanzure | .title | 11:51 |
| yoleaux | The Imaginary Journal of Poetic Economics: Taylor & Francis Open Access Survey: Critique | 11:51 |
| kanzure | http://poeticeconomics.blogspot.ca/2013/04/dramatic-growth-of-open-access-3013.html | 11:51 |
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| superkuh | paperbot: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/340/6128/36.full | 12:07 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/The%20Perfect%20Hypnotic%3F.pdf | 12:07 |
| superkuh | paperbot: http://stm.sciencemag.org/content/5/179/179ra44.full.pdf | 12:13 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/300927b4a91356d3f6e25a5ff30bcef8.txt | 12:13 |
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| kanzure | "Hi Bryan, I was referring to general researchers in industry. University research might be a little less expensive. My numbers come from a career at Northrop, where the rank and file design engineer ran to about $200,000 per year as a billing rate to the customer (10% on top of cost for profit). About $125,000 was salary and benefits, the balance overhead, etc." | 14:17 |
| kanzure | huh? northrop is in security? that's odd. the context was talking about researchers. | 14:19 |
| kanzure | particularly, neuroscientists. does northrop employ neuroscientists? | 14:19 |
| kanzure | "Northrop Corporation was a major United States aircraft manufacturer which merged with Grumman in 1994 to form Northrop Grumman." | 14:19 |
| brownies | Northrop is in all the things | 14:25 |
| brownies | i am sure DoD brings them all kinds of contracts | 14:26 |
| chris_99 | am i right in thinking you have to be a US citizen to work for DARPA | 14:26 |
| brownies | besides, he didn't say anything about security or neuroscience? just "researchers" | 14:26 |
| kanzure | brownies: well, i said context because there was context that wasn't shown in that quote. | 14:26 |
| brownies | oh ok | 14:27 |
| Lemminkainen | chris_99 no one really works for DARPA, they're a travel agency that gives out grants | 14:28 |
| chris_99 | heh | 14:29 |
| chris_99 | do they not have their own labs and stuff though? | 14:29 |
| Lemminkainen | nope | 14:30 |
| ParahSailin | yeah, kinda the whole concept of the "military-industrial complex" | 14:31 |
| ParahSailin | military is revenue side, industry is get-free-money side | 14:31 |
| Lemminkainen | ParahSailin I find it truly amazing how far the industry side can fuck things up without consequence | 14:34 |
| kanzure | "oops we lost the schematics to your $200 million jet, we cool?" | 14:35 |
| chris_99 | heh | 14:35 |
| ParahSailin | yeah, just keep my constituents employed | 14:36 |
| chris_99 | i was looking at the ICBMs the DPRK use, and apparently they're using fuming nitric acid as an Oxidiser, anyone know if that's unusual | 14:37 |
| ParahSailin | no that was common in goddard days | 14:38 |
| ParahSailin | if you dont want to deal with cryo, thats about the most dense oxidizer there is | 14:39 |
| chris_99 | ah interesting, so cryo tends to be liquid oxygen + hydrogen right? | 14:39 |
| ParahSailin | well, N2O4 is liquid at reasonable range too | 14:40 |
| ParahSailin | nitric acid would seem easier to handle | 14:40 |
| chris_99 | it says the actual fuel is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsymmetrical_dimethylhydrazine | 14:41 |
| ParahSailin | im kinda surprised theyre using hydrazine instead of kerosene | 14:41 |
| ParahSailin | maybe hypergolic works better when you're north korea | 14:42 |
| chris_99 | oh so you can just use kerosene + nitric acid? | 14:42 |
| ParahSailin | you can mostly mix and match oxidizers and fuels | 14:44 |
| chris_99 | coo | 14:47 |
| chris_99 | *cool | 14:47 |
| chris_99 | i was just looking into how much it'd cost to buy HTPB and it's curatives etc. for a mini hybrid rocket | 14:48 |
| chris_99 | the actual cost wasn't so bad, but apparently i'd need a vacuum chamber | 14:48 |
| chris_99 | to stir it | 14:48 |
| chris_99 | to remove co2 bubbles | 14:48 |
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| kanzure | nano2: hi. | 16:10 |
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| DonnchaC | paperbot:http://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlepdf/1999/cc/a901678c | 16:13 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/3589bf649f8bb019bd97be9880627b7c.pdf | 16:13 |
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| nano2 | hi | 16:22 |
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| kanzure | http://blog.okfn.org/2013/04/04/will-obamas-new-100m-brain-mapping-project-be-open-access/ | 16:27 |
| kanzure | "There was a rival initiative to the Human Genome Project from a private company called Celera, which aimed to create its own subscription database of the human genome, and to patent over 300 genes. Martin Bobrow, a representative for the Human Genome Project, later said: “Celera’s requirements seemed to amount to them establishing an effective monopoly over the human genome.” If they had succeeded the consequences to scientific ... | 16:27 |
| kanzure | ... research and innovation in this area could have been devastating." | 16:27 |
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| ParahSail1n | connectome lol | 17:11 |
| ParahSail1n | the amount of information there is probably a couple dozen orders of magnitude higher | 17:13 |
| ParahSail1n | but itll pay a lot of university administrators, buy a lot of professors' houses, and grad student noodles | 17:14 |
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| Lemminkainen | I want grad student noodles | 17:28 |
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| kanzure | bish0p_: hi | 18:03 |
| bish0p_ | hello bryan | 18:04 |
| kanzure | what brings you here? | 18:04 |
| bish0p_ | you do | 18:05 |
| kanzure | go on | 18:05 |
| bish0p_ | i found your number on 4chan | 18:05 |
| bish0p_ | 512-203-0507? | 18:05 |
| kanzure | on 4chan? what is it doing there? | 18:06 |
| bish0p_ | i think you should know that haywire and her national anarchist friends are after you | 18:06 |
| bish0p_ | i cannot reveal my name because she has sent me death threats | 18:06 |
| bish0p_ | but i am warning you to be careful | 18:06 |
| kanzure | show me the 4chan thread. | 18:07 |
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| ParahSail1n | what | 18:08 |
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| ParahSail1n | haywire and nationalist anarchists and death threats | 18:09 |
| eudoxia | well last time someone came here from 4chan it was from /r9k/ | 18:09 |
| eudoxia | I searched the html of the catalog but there isn't any "bishop" or "bryan" in the OPs | 18:10 |
| eudoxia | arent* | 18:10 |
| * eudoxia is worried | 18:10 | |
| kanzure | just ignore it. | 18:15 |
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| eudoxia | if it turns out to be real i'm sure you can borrow a 3d printed gun from cody wilson | 18:36 |
| eudoxia | on that note, what do you think about defcad? | 18:37 |
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| kanzure | why is the commit activity on servo so low lately? https://github.com/mozilla/servo/graphs/commit-activity | 20:01 |
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| kanzure | worm videos ftp://anonymous@ftp.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/pub/tjucikas/wormdatabase/results-12-06-08/Laura%20Grundy | 22:06 |
| brownies | sometimes, i just want to boot everyone in that channel. | 22:26 |
| brownies | .meow | 22:26 |
| yoleaux | http://edgecats.net/cats/tumblr_lvzymk1Fm11qzrdsmo1_250.gif | 22:26 |
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| @fenn | *blink* nationalist anarchist? am i the only one who's confused? | 22:30 |
| kanzure | it was just a troll, there was nothing on 4chan with my information. | 22:32 |
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| archels | who's "Haywire", anyway? | 23:42 |
| kanzure | not worth your time | 23:42 |
| kanzure | epic internet drama queen. claims to be working on transhumanist projects. but i've never seen any usable results. | 23:43 |
| archels | even worse than Lepht? | 23:44 |
| archels | ah, I think I saw her before as the organiser of some H+ conference or other | 23:46 |
| archels | her website is down. maybe the interwebs *is* stirring | 23:46 |
| archels | never mind, there it goes | 23:47 |
| kanzure | haha apple is throwing its weight around on webkit https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2013-January/023255.html | 23:51 |
| kanzure | "2) Ports must keep themselves building. Non Apple Mac ports, if broken by core functionality changes to WebKit2, are now responsible for fixing themselves." | 23:52 |
| kanzure | wasn't webkit supposed to be cross platform? | 23:52 |
| kanzure | ah they made the changes before discussing it in public | 23:57 |
| kanzure | https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2013-January/023259.html | 23:57 |
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