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| kanzure | why is there a vcr/vhs api being implemented in webkit? | 00:01 |
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| kanzure | http://darktears.fr/vcr-api/Overview.html | 00:01 |
| kanzure | https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2013-April/024355.html | 00:01 |
| kanzure | oh wait april 1st. | 00:06 |
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| eleitl | Rachel is or was gf to Michael Anissimov | 00:41 |
| eleitl | she seems to subscribe to the emo brand of transhumanism | 00:41 |
| eleitl | oh, by the way, what do you think of latest transhumanity.net content. | 00:42 |
| eleitl | Post-Hank. | 00:42 |
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| archels | kanzure: did you see the WebKit.js April 1st prank? | 01:38 |
| archels | http://badassjs.com/post/20294238453/webkit-js-yes-it-has-finally-happened-browser | 01:39 |
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| eleitl | archels, if a thinking person goes to http://transhumanity.net/ what would she think? | 02:15 |
| archels | it seems pretty vapid and makes the topics come across as pseudoscience | 02:27 |
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| archels | I'm sure kanzure would have some very nice things to say about Zero State | 02:33 |
| archels | >:) | 02:33 |
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| eleitl | thanks, archels | 03:02 |
| eleitl | you're more charitable than I would have said it | 03:02 |
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| eleitl | paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/bies.201100185/pdf | 04:05 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/692c1c6079fc17d0fe2821c2d513bfe3.txt | 04:05 |
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| archels | eleitl: still need that paper? | 04:50 |
| eleitl | yes, that would be very kind | 04:50 |
| archels | http://turingbirds.com/temp/458_ftp.pdf | 04:50 |
| eleitl | Thanks! | 04:52 |
| archels | no prob | 04:55 |
| archels | it is possible to | 04:55 |
| archels | chart a path from virtually any neuron | 04:55 |
| archels | to any other neuron in three synapses. | 04:56 |
| archels | (in C. elegans) | 04:56 |
| eleitl | total connectome has been solved 1982, or so | 04:56 |
| eleitl | but I probably don't understand your question | 04:56 |
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| archels | no I was just quoting from the paper | 04:57 |
| eleitl | Ken Hayworth seems to think that you can reliably infer the property from the neuroanatomy | 05:05 |
| eleitl | I have no idea why he is sure | 05:05 |
| eleitl | I'm thinking he wants that to be true very badly | 05:06 |
| archels | yeah, that isn't going to fly | 05:06 |
| archels | and it's pretty well known that it isn't going to fly, so I don't know why he would suggest otherwise | 05:06 |
| eleitl | I think you need to sample down to submolecular scale, in some locations | 05:07 |
| eleitl | so quite a lot better than these ~8 nm resolution he thinks is enough | 05:07 |
| archels | and map out every single protein? | 05:07 |
| eleitl | archels, can you cite a few examples when shape alone doesn't tell you everything? | 05:07 |
| eleitl | not every single protein, but ability to zoom down to a single protein or residue if it's required | 05:08 |
| eleitl | most of volume will be boring | 05:08 |
| eleitl | but some spots will be very interesting, so need to resolve some features there | 05:08 |
| archels | that sounds way too data-intensive | 05:09 |
| archels | see fig. 3 -- http://turingbirds.com/temp/Interneurons%20of%20the%20Neocortical%20Inhibitory%20System%20-%20Markram.pdf | 05:10 |
| eleitl | thanks! | 05:13 |
| eleitl | data intensive, but you can abstrat at scan stage, so it never leaves the instrument | 05:13 |
| eleitl | plus, this is adaptive resolution, you can stream across most volume without looking too hard | 05:13 |
| eleitl | Dendritic morphology is the most variable feature and | 05:15 |
| eleitl | cannot reliably define the type of interneuron. However, | 05:15 |
| eleitl | the axonal aborization can reveal the anatomical identity | 05:15 |
| eleitl | of an interneuron because interneurons seem to be particularly specialized to target different domains of neurons, different layers of a column and different columns | 05:15 |
| archels | mm, but the point is to derive an expression profile? | 05:15 |
| eleitl | genome expression? | 05:15 |
| archels | protein, genome | 05:15 |
| eleitl | it depends on how much internal state is essential to reproducing the behavior | 05:16 |
| eleitl | e.g., are synapse strenghts encoded in protein modification? | 05:16 |
| * eleitl is just an egg, and has no clue | 05:17 | |
| archels | no one really has much of clue yet when it comes to those things :) | 05:17 |
| eleitl | ok, so everybody is an egg. | 05:17 |
| eleitl | So little time, so much to learn. | 05:18 |
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| eleitl | I've picked up The Machinery of Life to get a sense of density | 05:19 |
| eleitl | unfortunately, a lot of human imagery is still guesswork | 05:19 |
| eleitl | we need real volumetric destructive scans to look at the real thing | 05:20 |
| * archels wonders if you can do spectroscopy with an electron microscope | 05:23 | |
| eleitl | holography, maybe | 05:23 |
| eleitl | no need, since you can just do destructive serial scans, and image the surface | 05:24 |
| archels | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scanning_tunneling_spectroscopy | 05:25 |
| eleitl | cryoAFM might work as well | 05:25 |
| eleitl | in any case if it's vitrified it's laying there as a brick | 05:26 |
| archels | yes but it's not going to give up its parameters that easily :) | 05:26 |
| eleitl | in principle you can pull in single proteins, and examine them, if you have to | 05:27 |
| archels | but if you want to get an overview of protein levels in the entire cell, that's a lot of scanning and analysis you have to do | 05:27 |
| archels | whereas a mean-field quantity would suffice | 05:27 |
| eleitl | I don't know which level of detail is required, and there's still considerable uncertainty in future imaging modalities, so I'm kinda agnostic at the moment | 05:28 |
| eleitl | I'd rather try to cryopreserve here and now, and look at imaging methods for small scale connectomics | 05:29 |
| archels | epigenetic profiling is probably the most important thing aside from morphology | 05:29 |
| archels | and that would be rather difficult to do with any EM technology I imagine | 05:30 |
| eleitl | there's no genetic activity on second scale, so I'm thinking the genome state can be modeled quite coarsely, and arguably would not be required in a coarser model | 05:30 |
| archels | well, even cells of the same type can have different expression profiles, strongly affecting their function. So we'd need to profile *every* cell. | 05:32 |
| archels | time is out of the equation once the stuff is fixated, anyway | 05:32 |
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| eleitl | I don't like fixation, I'd prefer as close to native state as possible. Hence, vitrification. | 05:34 |
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| eleitl | http://www.sciencemag.org/content/340/6128/48.full <-- "A tissue-like printed material" | 05:39 |
| eleitl | if you could deposit a biological system layer by layer, including rewarming infrastructure, then synthetic biology can do a bit more than just making bacteria | 05:40 |
| eleitl | deposit in the vitrified state, then flash-defrozen | 05:41 |
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| ParahSail1n | paperbot: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/340/6128/48.full | 06:17 |
| paperbot | error: HTTP 300 http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/A%20Tissue-Like%20Printed%20Material.pdf | 06:18 |
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| eudoxia | >The U.S. Munitions List changes over time. Until 1996–1997, ITAR classified strong cryptography as arms and prohibited their export from the U.S. | 09:04 |
| eudoxia | yes i know i am the last person to hear about this | 09:05 |
| eleitl | yeah, which is why PGP was exported as a hard copy, and then OCRd, purportedly | 09:05 |
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| eleitl | purportedly | 09:05 |
| eudoxia | that's nuts | 09:05 |
| kanzure | eleitl: a certain publisher is sending me hate mail | 09:05 |
| eleitl | eudoxia, had any heavy rain lately, or were you spared? | 09:05 |
| eudoxia | they had OCR before 1997? | 09:05 |
| kanzure | eudoxia: kurzweil did ocr in the 70s. that's his claim to fame. | 09:05 |
| eleitl | who is the nasty person? | 09:06 |
| kanzure | a person at a legal department at institute of physics | 09:06 |
| eudoxia | eleitl: it started to rain just as i was leaving the office :< but at least it wasn't as bad as in argentina | 09:06 |
| eudoxia | kanzure: oh, right, i remember that now | 09:06 |
| eleitl | what do you intend to do about it? | 09:06 |
| kanzure | complain on irc | 09:06 |
| eleitl | :) | 09:07 |
| eudoxia | eleitl: re kurzweil and re that thing you said here earlier 'pull in single proteins, and examine them, if you have to' | 09:07 |
| eleitl | haters gonna hate | 09:07 |
| eudoxia | do you have that paper you wrote about mnt based uploading? | 09:07 |
| eudoxia | i remember it was mentioned in the kurzweil book | 09:07 |
| eleitl | I have written a paper? | 09:07 |
| eudoxia | 70% sure | 09:07 |
| eleitl | do you have the ref for that? | 09:07 |
| eudoxia | brb | 09:07 |
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| eudoxia | ugh you know that feel when you remember the general concept of a phrase but no specific keywords | 09:09 |
| eudoxia | i need an abstract control+f | 09:09 |
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| eudoxia | meh maybe it was freitas | 09:12 |
| eleitl | probably, since I can't recall authoring something like that | 09:13 |
| kanzure | eleitl: why are you leaving hetzner? | 09:16 |
| eleitl | because they're dicks | 09:16 |
| eleitl | they started charging for IP space for customers who got them with old contracts | 09:16 |
| eleitl | if you have 3x /24 then it's prohibitive even at 1 EUR/month, nevermind promises of up to 5 EUR/month | 09:17 |
| eleitl | but they are dicks in general, don't use them for free speech things | 09:17 |
| eleitl | have you an account with researchgate, kanzure? | 09:18 |
| eleitl | they seem to think I'm not a researcher | 09:18 |
| kanzure | hmmm i don't think i have a researchgate account at the moment | 09:20 |
| kanzure | definitely not, no. sorry. | 09:20 |
| eleitl | thanks | 09:21 |
| kanzure | if anyone wants to be very helpful today, doing this would be nice: | 09:23 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia/issues/3 | 09:23 |
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| kanzure | http://adamcaudill.com/2013/04/04/security-done-wrong-leaky-ftp-server/ | 09:27 |
| kanzure | "A few hours ago I received a call from my frequent research partner, Brandon Wilson, about an open FTP server hosted in Taiwan serving up some rather interesting data. Internal emails, various system images (and even the Ghost software!), numerous photos - some personal, some high resolution PCB images, private specification sheets, Excel documents loaded with private information - but that wasn’t the worst." | 09:27 |
| kanzure | "n a folder called code was quite a treasure. The source code for different versions of American Megatrends (AMI) firmware - but there was even a bonus on top of that! They included their private signing key with the code in the ‘Ivy Bridge’ archive." | 09:27 |
| kanzure | oh geeze i forgot about the symantec source leak. | 09:28 |
| eleitl | security is fucked up, film @ 11 | 09:29 |
| kanzure | i would totally watch that. | 09:29 |
| eleitl | Blight could 0wn this planet in realtime | 09:29 |
| eudoxia | featuring julian assange as the ghost of claude shannon | 09:30 |
| kanzure | eudoxia: did you ever read julian's emails to extropy-chat? | 09:31 |
| eudoxia | nope | 09:31 |
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| eleitl | he invited me to a secret project once, we know know what the name of the project is | 09:31 |
| eleitl | lucky I didn't particulate, too much airborne feces | 09:32 |
| eudoxia | heh | 09:32 |
| kanzure | yes, let us know how you enjoy those drones coming after you | 09:32 |
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| eleitl | I had quite enough of scrutiny with the Tor exit thing | 09:32 |
| eudoxia | well, look at the bright side | 09:32 |
| eudoxia | if you had, they would revive you from cryo as a kind of cold boot attack | 09:33 |
| eudoxia | wait, that's not how it works | 09:34 |
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| nbentha | howdy | 09:37 |
| eleitl | H7N9 killed 9 so far | 09:37 |
| eleitl | 6, sorry | 09:37 |
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| eudoxia | >The killing of birds at the Huhuai market in Shanghai started Thursday night after the city's agricultural committee ordered it in a notice also posted on its website. | 09:40 |
| eudoxia | well i guess it's something | 09:40 |
| nbentha | did they toss them into the rivers along w/ the hogs? | 09:41 |
| superkuh | http://www.newfluwiki2.com/ is the aggregator I use for flu news. | 09:42 |
| eleitl | desasterbator-rss | 09:43 |
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| eudoxia | >No cases of human-to-human transmission have yet been found, and no infections beyond China. | 09:45 |
| eudoxia | http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2013/4/5/reutersworld/1304051006-h7n9-bird-flu-strain-has-worrying-trait&sec=reutersworld | 09:45 |
| eudoxia | t-thanks, virus | 09:45 |
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| eleitl | some krauts seem to think video streaming requires a TV license | 09:53 |
| eleitl | the fools | 09:53 |
| eleitl | ok, off I go. see you. | 09:57 |
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| kanzure | why did marcin write this? http://www.researchnotebook.cc/2013/03/the-significance-of-open-source-hardware/ | 10:25 |
| ParahSailin | publish or perish? | 10:26 |
| kanzure | publish, then perish | 10:27 |
| kanzure | http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?1,196433 | 10:28 |
| kanzure | "I have been kindah wanting a 'personal database' that runs on my own computer, basically annoyed with not having the data in digikey and mouser in my computer-readable hands, or that taking notes about them isnt easy enough.. And of course, there wouldnt be much to hold me back sharing those notes, if many people used such a system it could essentially act a bit like a wiki. Point is that that idea overlaps with this." | 10:28 |
| kanzure | oh right, we still have to scrape digikey/mouser/jwhatever | 10:28 |
| kanzure | jamenco? | 10:28 |
| kanzure | it's too bad that octopart doesn't provide downloadable dumps. they recently introduced rate limits to their api. | 10:29 |
| kanzure | hah "All WP and other TinyMCE spellcheckers are silently erroring now. Not cool." (because google took down the spellchecking api) | 10:56 |
| kanzure | eveyone will probably switch to http://api.yandex.ru/speller/ | 10:57 |
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| archels | geez kanzure, you should do some search engine optimisation. found you halfway on page #2 for "Bryan Bishop" | 11:03 |
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| kanzure | archels: switch to 100 results per page. | 11:04 |
| kanzure | hah eleitl is the original model m hipster http://diginole.lib.fsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5455&context=etd | 11:09 |
| kanzure | the email this article shows is an old email from eleitl from 2002 talking about his model m keyboard | 11:09 |
| ParahSailin | model m keyboards dont like water | 11:10 |
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| ParahSailin | you think you'd get in trouble hosting hashes and file sizes of papers? | 11:16 |
| kanzure | dunno | 11:16 |
| kanzure | blah people are starting to quote that shitty wikipedia article about biohacking | 11:19 |
| kanzure | http://etechlib.wordpress.com/2013/04/05/buzzwords-of-the-day-biohacking-diybio-and-quantified-self/ | 11:19 |
| kanzure | "ranging from Grinders who design and install DIY body-enhancements such as magnetic implants to DIY biologists who conduct at-home gene sequencing." | 11:19 |
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| kanzure | debunking the 10k hours claim http://allaboutwork.org/2012/11/21/malcolm-gladwells-10000-hour-rule-doesnt-add-up/ | 11:24 |
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| kanzure | "2013 WebKit contributor's meeting will be held at DoubleTree by Hilton Hotel in San Jose on Thursday, May 2nd and Friday, May 3rd" | 11:43 |
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| brownies | this is just how Gladwell rolls | 12:04 |
| brownies | "anecdote, anecdote, anecdote, broad sweeping generalization about humanity packaged into a sound byte" | 12:05 |
| ParahSailin | _ -> profit | 12:05 |
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| brownies | true. | 12:06 |
| @fenn | but the plural of anecdote is data | 12:12 |
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| kanzure | someone is asking for some papers to be removed | 12:23 |
| kanzure | http://pastebin.com/qxAaBc03 | 12:23 |
| superkuh | I'm willing to mirror anything you chose to take down. | 12:28 |
| kanzure | she never sent an explicit list over | 12:28 |
| kanzure | superkuh: have you encountered problems in this department before? | 12:30 |
| kanzure | the last time this happened to me was vince gingery (ugh) | 12:30 |
| superkuh | I've had a few of those. I usually respond with bullshit about users uploading stuff and not being able to track it all. I request specific URLs and then actually remove them because I am a wuss. | 12:30 |
| kanzure | and they give you specific urls? | 12:30 |
| superkuh | Yes. | 12:30 |
| kanzure | based on my logs i see that they partly arrived at my server through searching for the watermark strings | 12:31 |
| superkuh | What's the IP range? | 12:31 |
| superkuh | (so I can pre-ban) | 12:31 |
| kanzure | single ip, 80.254.147.156 | 12:31 |
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| kanzure | also ban anyone with this http referer: http://www.copyrightinfringementportal.com/ | 12:32 |
| superkuh | Thanks. | 12:32 |
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| superkuh | Hm. I guess I have not received a letter quite like this one. They aren't invoking DMCA? | 12:35 |
| superkuh | (yet) | 12:35 |
| kanzure | i noticed them poking around on my server and i sent an email in anticipation of a DMCA takedown request | 12:35 |
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| brownies | why don't you just turn off google indexing entirely? | 12:42 |
| kanzure | because i use scholar.google.com to search my collection | 12:42 |
| kanzure | but yeah, i've updated robots.txt :( | 12:43 |
| brownies | rofl | 12:43 |
| superkuh | For nginx I: if ($http_referer ~* (PaperLiBot|facebookexternalhit|FairShare|Lightspeedsystems|ZmEu|BPImageWalker|360spider)) { | 12:45 |
| kanzure | paperlibot? | 12:45 |
| kanzure | disgusting http://paper.li/ | 12:45 |
| superkuh | Sorry, if ($http_user_agent ~* (PaperLiBot|facebookexternalhit|FairShare|Lightspeedsystems|Slurp|Googlebot|bingbot|Baiduspider|YandexBot|msnbot|FairShare|Gee.Bit|yacybot|SISTRIX|Mediapartners-Google|aboundex|WBSearchBot|360spider|copyrightinfringementportal) ) { | 12:47 |
| superkuh | The previous was just for / not /library | 12:47 |
| kanzure | hmm we should make a better science protection system | 12:47 |
| kanzure | btw http_user_agent will never say something about copyrightinfringementportal | 12:48 |
| kanzure | we could set a cookie that would identify someone who comes in with that http referer | 12:48 |
| superkuh | Oh, right. | 12:48 |
| kanzure | and then when they try to view the page without an http referer it will still be blocked | 12:48 |
| kanzure | actually it would probably be better to block by ip address if they have that referer | 12:48 |
| superkuh | I'm adding all of ScanSafe LON IP ranges to my permanent ip ban. | 12:49 |
| kanzure | we can call it the science defense force (sdf, a joke about fenn's superdimensional fortress domain name) | 12:49 |
| superkuh | Something akin to the p2p blocklists. | 12:57 |
| superkuh | Alternately, and partially in jest, you could set up an easily seen Terms of Service that states you must be under 7 years of age to access the papers index. Then the copyright enforcers would be committing a felony under CFAA 1030(a)2(c). | 13:01 |
| kanzure | a p2p blocklist for science seems harder to figure out | 13:04 |
| kanzure | there's not many people collecting this data | 13:04 |
| superkuh | Perhaps just a page on the wiki then. | 13:06 |
| superkuh | I'll contribute as I see them pop up if nothing else. | 13:06 |
| kanzure | excellent. thank you. | 13:06 |
| superkuh | I am going to try editing the wiki. I haven't done this before so if something breaks, sorry. | 13:18 |
| kanzure | that's fine. the web interface can be weird at times. | 13:19 |
| superkuh | There's an interface besides git? | 13:20 |
| kanzure | yes but now i regret telling you, git is probably easiest | 13:21 |
| kanzure | here is the web interface for editing the main page https://secure.diyhpl.us/write/diyhpluswiki/ikiwiki.cgi?page=index&do=edit | 13:21 |
| superkuh | Alright. So, I cloned it, added in ./users/superkuh/sdf.mdwn . Now I am trying to "git push superkuh@diyhpl.us:/srv/git/diyhpluswiki.git master" and it reports "Everything up-to-date" but no changes/upload is done. | 13:23 |
| kanzure | when you added that file did you use "git add"? | 13:23 |
| superkuh | Unfortunately I am quite ignorant of git. I did not. | 13:23 |
| kanzure | there are two steps that you missed. first is to use "git add ./users/superkuh/sdf.mdwn". | 13:24 |
| kanzure | the second step is to run "git commit" and type a creative poem about what changes you have made. you can see other creative works of poetry by looking at "git log" to see previous changes. | 13:24 |
| kanzure | also if you are unsure as to whether or not "git add" has been executed, or if you have new files that haven't yet been added (staged for committing), you can use "git status". | 13:25 |
| kanzure | after those two commands, git push will be more interesting. | 13:26 |
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| gnusha_ | https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=8728b6e5 superkuh: Adding a list of probable intellectual property enforcement/surveillance IP ranges. | 13:28 |
| superkuh | Thanks. | 13:28 |
| @fenn | maybe we should turn over this list of IP's to "the authorities" | 13:29 |
| kanzure | huh, the 80.254 addresses are all copyrightinfringementportal.com ? | 13:29 |
| superkuh | No. | 13:29 |
| @fenn | i.e. people who have nothing better to do but DDOS whoever they don't like | 13:29 |
| superkuh | I felt it better to ban all of that cisco security services range. | 13:29 |
| kanzure | ok makes sense. | 13:29 |
| superkuh | Those are all of ScanSafe LON(don). | 13:30 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/wiki/users/superkuh/sdf/ | 13:30 |
| superkuh | Ack. I have a bunch here I know were IP bots but I don't have notes on them. | 13:32 |
| superkuh | Just IP ranges without context. | 13:32 |
| kanzure | is there an existing ip banning list that we should be contributing to? | 13:36 |
| gnusha_ | https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=ed791928 superkuh: A couple more IP or political enforcement network ranges, typo fix too. | 13:38 |
| kanzure | peerblock looks dead. wtf? | 13:52 |
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| superkuh | The paper.li entries were from amazon ec2 so I am not sure if they are static. | 14:02 |
| kanzure | this looks like a possibly up-to-date blocklist http://www.iblocklist.com/list.php?list=srzondksmjuwsvmgdbhi | 14:06 |
| kanzure | this list looks really sketchy, just how it's hosted and how people are suggesitng additions by posting in comments.. i was hoping things would be more civilized. like maybe a website that generates the list from entries. | 14:07 |
| kanzure | *suggesting | 14:08 |
| ParahSailin | hm, ASIC btc mining is about 100000% pure arbitrage on electricity right now | 14:12 |
| ParahSailin | FPGA mining is only 6500% return | 14:12 |
| superkuh | It's still profitable even with an old 5770 gpu. | 14:14 |
| ParahSailin | fundamental analysis gives a pretty good idea how out of balance current prices are | 14:15 |
| kanzure | flanagan was buying up a lot of asics to do a bitcoin farm back in middle of 2012 | 14:16 |
| kanzure | i wonder whether or not he got that deployed | 14:16 |
| superkuh | I have 20 BTC forever lost on an encrypted USB stick I forgot the password to. :( | 14:17 |
| EnLilaSko | The password is "Mum, I promise I'm not into guys" | 14:22 |
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| ThomasEgi | 20 bitcoins.. worth alot these days | 14:28 |
| superkuh | Yeah. I've spent a lot of time trying to brute force it. | 14:28 |
| ThomasEgi | roughly... 250 euro or so.. | 14:29 |
| ThomasEgi | wait.. more | 14:29 |
| ThomasEgi | what's the current exchange rate? | 14:29 |
| superkuh | $130 USD / 1 BTC on Mt. Gox. | 14:29 |
| ThomasEgi | wow. | 14:30 |
| ThomasEgi | that's a whole lot of money then | 14:30 |
| ThomasEgi | more than 2k bucks. | 14:30 |
| kanzure | superkuh: i think it might be possible to use a scheme similar to ad retargeting with cookies on third party services to track whether or not certain users or ip addresses are banned as anti-science extremists. | 14:30 |
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| kanzure | the first time a user/ip views a page on your site, you would redirect to a page that loads an iframe which loads a handful of javascript files which set cookies and confirm whether or not the user is banned. then the user is redirected to the original page they requested, which is when the server decides whether or not to give access based on whether or not the server can independently communicate with the third party services to receive ... | 14:32 |
| kanzure | ... confirmation that the user is not an anti-science wacko. | 14:32 |
| kanzure | the iframe/js files would be on multiple remote servers that are controlled by multiple individuals | 14:32 |
| superkuh | Meh. I don't want to force users to run javascript. | 14:33 |
| ParahSailin | this is 2013 | 14:34 |
| superkuh | Forever 2003 in my head. | 14:34 |
| kanzure | well, without javascript it's sort of hard to make a cookie available on multiple servers. | 14:34 |
| ParahSailin | javascript isnt that scary malware that makes blinking lights and popups anymore | 14:34 |
| kanzure | also, you could check each ip address against a remote server, or use nightly blocklist updates. | 14:36 |
| kanzure | superkuh: also could you add the user agents that you hate? | 14:46 |
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| kanzure | "The Journal of the Electrochemical Society, which published 6586 pages of research articles in 2012 for a Tier 3 academic subscription price of $1,207 … which is about $0.18/page …" | 15:25 |
| kanzure | "Elsevier’s Journal of Electroanalytical Chemistry, which published 2174 pages of research articles in 2012 for a subscription price of $13,647 … which is about $6.28/page …" | 15:25 |
| kanzure | "JEC has a slightly higher ISI Impact Factor (2.91 vs 2.59) which is likely due to far fewer papers … although the JES has a slightly higher 5 year IF (2.79 vs 2.73)" | 15:25 |
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| gnusha_ | https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=7affb7ec superkuh: Adding a few useragent strings that are disagreeable (as nginx config excerpt) | 15:42 |
| superkuh | Oh. I messed up the formatting. | 15:42 |
| gnusha_ | https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=ba7859bf superkuh: Formatting misc. | 15:44 |
| kanzure | oh, that's just markdown being dumb | 16:14 |
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| kanzure | i wonder if freenode is going to fix its netsplit | 17:45 |
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| Grognor | maybe if we pray | 19:07 |
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| nbentha | pray for wings so we can fly? | 19:08 |
| kanzure | go away | 19:08 |
| nbentha | lol. how's it going kanzure? | 19:09 |
| kanzure | keep your prayers to yourself. | 19:09 |
| nbentha | ...okay... | 19:12 |
| nbentha | oh kanzure, i'm getting a paper ready for publishing :) | 19:12 |
| nbentha | just some plant cell biology research | 19:12 |
| nbentha | nothing big, but it's my first | 19:12 |
| kanzure | who are you | 19:14 |
| yashgaroth | oh hey sup nbentha | 19:14 |
| nbentha | heya yashgaroth :) | 19:15 |
| nbentha | kanzure, i used to be on here a lot more a year-2years ago | 19:15 |
| kanzure | the logs have no record of you. | 19:15 |
| yashgaroth | psh I remember him | 19:16 |
| ParahSail1n | kanzure, i know nbentha irl | 19:17 |
| kanzure | oh kibakichi37@gmail.com | 19:17 |
| yashgaroth | try searching n_bentha | 19:17 |
| kanzure | there we go | 19:17 |
| kanzure | identity confirmed, not a crazy stalker trying to kill me. | 19:17 |
| nbentha | lol | 19:17 |
| kanzure | please don't laugh :( | 19:17 |
| ParahSail1n | you need me to mail you a piece for protection? | 19:20 |
| nbentha | sorry kanzure | 19:20 |
| kanzure | a piece of what | 19:20 |
| yashgaroth | you know, a gat | 19:21 |
| nbentha | why not just print one? | 19:22 |
| ParahSail1n | the ink costs like 50 dollars an ounce | 19:22 |
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| nbentha | wow, i thought it would be cheaper | 19:26 |
| ParahSail1n | fucking goats must be hungry | 19:26 |
| ParahSail1n | i lifted the tails and they dont look fertile | 19:26 |
| ParahSail1n | little one is screaming bloody murder | 19:27 |
| nbentha | what're u gonna give them? | 19:28 |
| ParahSail1n | theres a wisteria vine out back, i was kinda saving its for later, but i might need to prune it now | 19:28 |
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| ParahSail1n | last weekend i was building them a ladder so they could reach high foliage, but didnt have time to finish | 19:35 |
| nbentha | do you keep some livestock feed so you can feed them when they don'thave much to eat | 19:36 |
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| ParahSail1n | i always have enough human leftovers for them | 19:40 |
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| nbentha | u mean leftovers from your dinner, not actual human leftovers? | 19:42 |
| ParahSail1n | yeah | 19:43 |
| ParahSail1n | if they got really hungry i have grain | 19:44 |
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| kanzure | http://www.kvue.com/news/Google-Fiber-coming-to-Austin-201695291.html | 20:11 |
| kanzure | welp it seems i might not be moving to san francisco after all | 20:11 |
| ParahSail1n | my brother lives in kansas city, google fiber never really came | 20:12 |
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| n_bentha | heard that google fiber is only in certain areas in kansas city | 20:23 |
| n_bentha | hope they deliver service to UT campus first if they do go to austin | 20:24 |
| kanzure | ut austin has grande | 20:25 |
| n_bentha | what's that? | 20:26 |
| kanzure | some other isp | 20:26 |
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| brownies | don't most universities have their own fiber? | 20:36 |
| kanzure | dorms are always congested no matter what | 20:37 |
| ParahSail1n | kanzure, what did you say before about someone trying to scrape google books | 20:40 |
| kanzure | i think i have said many things about scraping google books | 20:40 |
| kanzure | fenn wrote some python at one point | 20:40 |
| kanzure | i complained about hands showing up in pages | 20:40 |
| brownies | we had fiber | 20:41 |
| brownies | i think our university was right on the internet backbone. made for some good torrenting. | 20:41 |
| brownies | ...for all those shady characters who did that sort of thing, which is definitely not me. | 20:41 |
| kanzure | i think the dorms might be on a different network at ut austin. my dorm was technically "off campus" (across a street). | 20:42 |
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| n_bentha | gtg, a woman is coming over | 21:00 |
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| kanzure | AshleyWaffle: hi. | 22:28 |
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| kanzure | chido: do you know jiri dluhos? i think he's in prague doing a biotech-related lab things. | 23:08 |
| kanzure | pasky: or you, i guess. | 23:08 |
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