2013-04-20.log

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DonnchaCpaperbot: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jm800807k02:43
paperboterror: HTTP 500 http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/New%20Analgesics%20Synthetically%20Derived%20from%20the%20Paracetamol%20Metabolite%20.pdf02:43
Thorbinatorpaperbot: http://epubs.siam.org/doi/abs/10.1137/09077729302:44
paperbotno translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/397d1b054f27c51cc9fd89fcb0f9a712.txt02:44
fennbleh i got simulator sickness just from watching oculus rift demos on my monitor02:46
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fennhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ablest_Man_in_the_World05:11
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fenn"Monsieur will perhaps acknowledge that a more beautiful or more extensive case of trephining has rarely come under his observation."05:18
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superkuhpaperbot: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/nl303463708:56
paperbotno translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/dd7b77e62cac0937f822bb4a7e8c53ef.pdf08:57
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kanzure"We have worked on open source projects on-site with OSE,"09:22
kanzurehow is that open source -_-09:22
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kanzurelinux on an 8-bit microcontroller because everyone likes waiting http://dmitry.gr/index.php?r=05.Projects&proj=07.%20Linux%20on%208bit10:18
kanzure"Curiously enough, once booted, the system is somewhat usable. You can type a command and get a reply within a minute."10:18
kanzure"uARM is certainly no speed demon. It takes about 2 hours to boot to bash prompt ("init=/bin/bash" kernel command line). Then 4 more hours to boot up the entire Ubuntu ("exec init" and then login). Starting X takes a lot longer. The effective emulated CPU speed is about 6.5KHz, which is on par with what you'd expect emulating a 32-bit CPU & MMU on a measly 8-bit micro."10:19
kanzure"The board is hand-soldered using wires, there is not even a requirement for a printed circuit board."10:19
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panaxraspberry pi11:07
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ThomasEgikanzure, the idea is pretty funny. as 8bit computers can still be hand-build with a lot of efford.11:20
ThomasEgiwhich sortof proves that with just enough time and efford , one can still handwire everything11:20
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industromatickanzure:  I've not figured how to connect a twilio phone number to a SNOM IP handset yet, but twilio seems useful.13:26
industromatickanzure:  What about openvbx with twilio?  Did you use that?13:32
kanzureyes i used openvbx a long time ago.13:43
kanzuredon't remember much of it. liked asterisk.13:43
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industromaticThanks Bryan.  Asterisk could be good later, once I get going more.   openvbx has been ported to use voxeo for even lower call rates.  Reading that now.14:13
browniesi think the Twilio blog -- or somewhere related -- has a walkthrough of building a hardware thing that receives calls through Twilio14:16
kanzureah yes because every blinking led needs a phone number14:19
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industromaticHmm...   tropo.com is NOT the way to get cheap minutes...   plivo.com is though.  $1/mo for numbers, .8 cent/minute15:02
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browniestwilio is the only one of the 3 that has a properly built infrastructure15:14
browniesi've talked with all 3 about their infrastructure and how they would do certain things for me, and i gathered that both of the other 2 just didn't care as much about having a solid API15:14
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industromaticbrownies:  I need small office IVR functionality with maybe 6 phone lines total. The web to phone number apps I would do are simple too.15:43
industromaticWhy do you think plivo is broken for that simple use case?15:43
browniesi don't think it's "broken"; i just noted that their APIs are shoddier15:44
browniesi think your mini-PVR could be done on any of them. in fact, there's plenty of SaaS apps out there built on twilio/etc that you could just pay for this.15:45
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industromaticeasy button paying is not what I'm up to.  I'm the one doing the bus. with the 6 future phone lines and keeping costs down.15:56
industromaticThanks for the rec. that any of them will do that.  plivo lets you use any telco carrier and has low rates for that.15:57
industromaticplivo's PVR app hosting is only $0.004/minute on top of phone line costs that are about wholesale.15:58
industromaticSo, if I decide to have twenty instead of six it will still be easy to pay for.15:59
brownieswow, that is crazy cheap per minute. let me know how the quality is.16:04
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industromaticbrownies: re:  let me know --  How to get you an email later?  John Griessen16:23
industromaticbrownies:   you can email me at john at cibolo dot com16:24
browniesare you going to be hanging around this channel? i am perennially idling here16:24
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industromaticperennially idling:  Sure, I can just post that info here, then.  I can't keep all these channels open and attended to all the time in between though.  Have not figured out how to generate enough rent money that way yet... :)16:44
industromaticbrownies: perennially is not same as continually, so maybe it's all the same with you :-)16:45
browniesindustromatic: heh, yeah, i'm not always attending to these channels, but i stay connected.16:47
industromaticbrownies: kanzure: Do you need a SIP server on a LAN to use a SNOM IP phone to connect to twilio or plivo?  Can a phone connect directly somehow?16:48
browniesindustromatic: i don't know the intricacies of SIP but they seem to cover it http://www.twilio.com/sip16:50
industromaticbrownies: kanzure:  Probably the SIP server would be on a DMZ portion of the chain of connection to the internet...16:50
browniesmy experience and impressions of the 3 companies come from their SMS APIs btw ... but i feel like it's reasonable to claim that laziness on their SMS API is probalby correlated to laziness on their other APIs16:51
industromaticOh, my question is more about local internet connection security and firewalling and if an IP phone is self sufficient.16:51
browniesi'm not sure, sorry.16:51
industromaticOK.  Later.  JG16:52
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kanzuremicroryza is hiring https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=558317716:54
kanzurei wasn't aware they had money..16:54
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industromaticI'm going to try them out for a "supporting role" campaign after I get my sensornet stuff delivered to TX State.17:16
gnushahttps://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=cd1e9e24 Bryan Bishop: small article from the news17:43
brownieskanzure: aren't they YC?17:55
kanzureyes but only recently17:59
kanzureso they are using their yc money to hire a developer?17:59
kanzuredo they even have actual revenue17:59
brownieswho needs revenue when you have hype18:01
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kanzurei am not sure their hype is that strong?18:02
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kanzurenpm is weird. if you tell it that a remote git repository for your package exists, it craps out and complains if you also don't have a .git/HEAD yet..22:54
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kanzure"We are starting to see international adoption - more than a dozen GVCS machines have now been replicated from our open blueprints - in 5 countries around the world. Our next step is pilot projects - to prove our machines further - and make them ready for widespread use."23:26
kanzurepfft blueprints. what a liar.23:27
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kanzurehere is my attempt at making phantomjs development life less awful:23:43
kanzurehttps://github.com/kanzure/phantomjs-test-provisions23:43
kanzurehttp://npmjs.org/package/phantomjs-test-provisions23:43
Juulthat is a noble goal23:48
kanzurehuh, this is a neat idea.. visual regression tests with phantomjs: https://npmjs.org/package/review23:48
kanzureoh it's not doing an automatic visual diff. blah.23:50
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