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| delinquentme | kanzure, you around | 06:36 |
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| kanzure | yes | 06:37 |
| delinquentme | thoughts on armodafinil vrs regular modafinil | 06:38 |
| kanzure | none | 06:38 |
| delinquentme | armodafinil is the non-racemic version ... ie only the active right handed ness | 06:38 |
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| kanzure | http://www.newyorker.com/strongbox/ "Strongbox is a new way for you to share information, messages, and files with our writers and editors and is designed to provide you with a greater degree of anonymity and security than afforded by conventional e-mail. To help protect your anonymity, Strongbox is only accessible using the Tor network (https://www.torproject.org). When using Strongbox, The New Yorker will not record your I.P. address or ... | 07:24 |
| kanzure | ... information about your browser, computer, or operating system, nor will we embed third-party content or deliver cookies to your browse" | 07:24 |
| fenn_ | delinquentme: armodafinil is potentially easier to get since it's not a prescription drug, however it's less safe when taken long term (something about liver enzymes) | 07:25 |
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| fenn | whoops nevermind i was thinking adrafinil | 07:26 |
| delinquentme | fenn, yeah armodafinil | 07:33 |
| delinquentme | it seems like its just the right handed version | 07:33 |
| fenn | seems armodafinil lasts slightly longer for the same dosage, but i bet it's just cephalon trying to extend the marketability of their brand, since modafinil will be going off-patent soon | 07:33 |
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| kanzure | "OMICS Publishing Group in India, threatens to sue Jeffrey Beall over postings in his blog Scholarly Open Access." | 07:40 |
| kanzure | .title http://chronicle.com/article/Publisher-Threatens-to-Sue/139243/ | 07:40 |
| yoleaux | Publisher Threatens to Sue Blogger for $1-Billion - Technology - The Chronicle of Higher Education | 07:40 |
| kanzure | "On his blog, Mr. Beall accuses OMICS of spamming scholars with invitations to publish, quickly accepting their papers, then charging them a nearly $3,000 publishing fee after a paper has been accepted." | 07:41 |
| kanzure | "He also alleges that the publisher uses the names of scholars without their permission to entice participants to attend scientific conferences and then promotes those conferences by using names "deceptively similar" to well-known, established conferences. For example, just one hyphen separates OMICS's Entomology-2013 conference from the Entomological Society of America's Entomology 2013 conference." | 07:41 |
| fenn | man that makes me want to go phishing for academics | 07:42 |
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| kanzure | http://scholarlyoa.com/2013/02/12/omics-ineptly-uses-social-media-to-promote-its-brands/ | 07:43 |
| kanzure | http://scholarlyoa.com/2013/01/25/omics-predatory-meetings/ | 07:43 |
| kanzure | fenn: academia is extremely easy to phish because who doesn't want to go to a specialty conference just for them? | 07:43 |
| kanzure | plus all the old professors seem to be unaware of phishing | 07:43 |
| kanzure | in fact, i bet you could gnab researchers as advisors to companies using this method | 07:49 |
| kanzure | to boost credibility before you go to raise venture capital | 07:49 |
| kanzure | "look at all these PhDs that have verified that my venture is legit" | 07:49 |
| fenn | hehe reading the comments by krishnakumar, i move that we refer to such practices as "slutty OA journals" | 07:49 |
| kanzure | i don't see those comemnts | 07:50 |
| kanzure | oh i see. his comment is essentially "pick better words, you assholes". | 07:51 |
| klafka | LOL kanzure that's a horrifically hilarious idea | 07:51 |
| kanzure | klafka: the problem is that it would fucking work! | 07:51 |
| klafka | yeah it totally would | 07:51 |
| klafka | _maybe_ someone finds out 1-2 years later | 07:51 |
| kanzure | in fact, you could even sell that evil service and be like "we connect entrepreneurs to scientific advisors" | 07:51 |
| klafka | oh god | 07:52 |
| kanzure | <-- evil | 07:52 |
| delinquentme | finding a room in SF | 07:52 |
| delinquentme | fucking dumbest shit ever | 07:53 |
| klafka | hahahahaha | 07:53 |
| klafka | what you don't want to pay 1500/month to share an apt with 2 peoples? | 07:53 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: i have real estate in the family in SF down by mission/24 | 07:53 |
| klafka | *people | 07:53 |
| klafka | snap | 07:53 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, wha??? | 07:53 |
| * kanzure nods | 07:53 | |
| kanzure | $1500/mo for the basement room | 07:53 |
| delinquentme | how? lol i live on mission and 19 | 07:53 |
| delinquentme | pweh! | 07:53 |
| klafka | hahaha | 07:53 |
| delinquentme | lol | 07:53 |
| klafka | that seems about right :P | 07:53 |
| kanzure | no you cant have it it's all mine mine mine | 07:53 |
| delinquentme | its just stupid expensive for no reason | 07:54 |
| kanzure | *can't | 07:54 |
| klafka | it's stupid expensive because of you and me delinquentme | 07:54 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: when i do budgeting for moving to SF i estimate about $2500/mo | 07:54 |
| kanzure | i think $1500/mo is pretty low | 07:54 |
| delinquentme | no fuck that | 07:54 |
| delinquentme | 400 | 07:54 |
| delinquentme | fuck everything lol | 07:54 |
| klafka | 1500/mo for a room is possible kanzure | 07:54 |
| klafka | in an apt | 07:54 |
| delinquentme | i will find a place to put a shiping container | 07:54 |
| delinquentme | and fuck everything | 07:54 |
| klafka | 2200/mo min for a 1 bdroom | 07:54 |
| kanzure | klafka: yeah but let's pretend i don't want roommates | 07:54 |
| klafka | delinquentme ... move to the east bay | 07:54 |
| klafka | you can pay 400/mo | 07:54 |
| delinquentme | klafka, dude i was looking at an apartment over there right? | 07:55 |
| fenn | live in a boat | 07:55 |
| klafka | yeah? | 07:55 |
| delinquentme | 2 weeks later theres a shooting... 2 blocks away | 07:55 |
| delinquentme | AT FIREMEN | 07:55 |
| klafka | so? | 07:55 |
| delinquentme | who the fuck shoots at firemen?! | 07:55 |
| klafka | don't be a bitch | 07:55 |
| delinquentme | no thats dumb to me | 07:55 |
| delinquentme | fuck death | 07:55 |
| delinquentme | fenn, a boat is an option | 07:55 |
| klafka | i've never felt at all in danger in oakland | 07:55 |
| klafka | well i've never felt in danger of my life | 07:55 |
| klafka | my property... sure | 07:56 |
| fenn | fwiw oakland is not homogenous | 07:56 |
| klafka | yes also true | 07:56 |
| klafka | i think temescal is really nice | 07:56 |
| klafka | KONO is not bad and super cheap | 07:56 |
| delinquentme | i just want close to the fucking bart :D | 07:56 |
| klafka | also lake merrit and ashby area are straight up nice | 07:56 |
| delinquentme | maybe i need to berk it | 07:56 |
| klafka | did you look at ashby area? since it's near the ashby bart | 07:56 |
| delinquentme | I want a 20 X 10 chunk of land | 07:56 |
| klafka | ... | 07:57 |
| klafka | LOL | 07:57 |
| delinquentme | fucking shipping container | 07:57 |
| delinquentme | call it a fucking day | 07:57 |
| klafka | maybe you should move to dublin | 07:57 |
| klafka | :P | 07:57 |
| klafka | also if you want more boring suburbia have you considered daly city? | 07:58 |
| delinquentme | fuck batches | 07:58 |
| delinquentme | im gonna buy a shipping container and just PUT IT ON MISSION | 07:58 |
| delinquentme | who the fuck is gonna move it?! | 07:58 |
| klafka | idk we do have a lot of people here who work at a port | 07:58 |
| klafka | they probably know how | 07:58 |
| delinquentme | thats like an eloquent way to protest is it not? | 07:58 |
| delinquentme | PRICE OF HOUSING IS TOO DAMN HIGH | 07:58 |
| delinquentme | klafka, do you knwo people who work in the ports?!?!?! | 07:59 |
| delinquentme | personally? | 07:59 |
| klafka | no | 07:59 |
| klafka | but i'm probably 1 or 2 degrees removed | 07:59 |
| delinquentme | the thing is IDK about living out of a container right so like its sub-legal | 07:59 |
| kanzure | .title http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2013/05/strongbox-and-aaron-swartz.html | 07:59 |
| yoleaux | Strongbox and Aaron Swartz : The New Yorker | 07:59 |
| delinquentme | so that whole thing you need a degree of trust | 07:59 |
| klafka | like realistically totally not legal dude | 07:59 |
| klafka | first off you'd be squatting unless you owned the land | 08:00 |
| klafka | and if you did it would have to be zoned for residential use | 08:00 |
| kanzure | "Who owned the code now? (Answer: he willed all his intellectual property to Sean Palmer, who gives the project his blessing.) " well that's convenient | 08:00 |
| klafka | and the container wouldn't pass any sort of housing code | 08:00 |
| kanzure | "(His friend and executor, Alec Resnick, reports that they do.)" alec is his executor? oh snap. | 08:00 |
| kanzure | for those playing at home, alec is fenn's alter ego | 08:01 |
| delinquentme | places have "studio" zoning | 08:01 |
| delinquentme | whatever that means | 08:01 |
| klafka | oh damn | 08:01 |
| delinquentme | klafka, theres even space in the SF piers which are zoned like that | 08:03 |
| klafka | lol :P | 08:06 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, strongbox ... not on github? | 08:06 |
| klafka | there is | 08:06 |
| klafka | http://deaddrop.github.io/ | 08:06 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/deaddrop/deaddrop/commits/master | 08:08 |
| klafka | it is weird reading about aaron swartz i feel extremely emotional even though I didn't know him | 08:08 |
| kanzure | i knew him, many others did too. i think it's fair. | 08:08 |
| kanzure | science exchange sent out some spam today.. "Whole Exome Sequencing (avg price: $1,224.50 per sample)" | 08:25 |
| ParahSailin | wtf, $.map() is actually a concatMap (?!) | 08:29 |
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| kanzure | perhaps you would prefer _.map() | 08:30 |
| ParahSailin | what if i actually want (a -> [b]) -> [a] -> [[b]] | 08:30 |
| ParahSailin | yeah | 08:30 |
| kanzure | https://documentcloud.github.io/underscore/ | 08:30 |
| kanzure | oh wtf | 08:31 |
| ParahSailin | can i use _ on a jquery object? | 08:31 |
| kanzure | http://documentcloud.github.io/underscore/ | 08:31 |
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| ParahSailin | on a selector i mean? | 08:31 |
| kanzure | no, you would have to include the underscore module first | 08:31 |
| kanzure | i highly recommend using requirejs | 08:31 |
| kanzure | and do something like require(["underscore", "jquery"], function() { ... your actual code .. }) | 08:31 |
| kanzure | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10866740/loading-jquery-underscore-and-backbone-using-requirejs-2-0-1-and-shim | 08:32 |
| kanzure | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11922747/backbone-js-underscore-js-jquery-in-requirejs-is-this-the-right-way | 08:32 |
| ParahSailin | so instead of <script> tags loading the different js libs, i use this requirejs and require() stuff? | 08:33 |
| kanzure | yes | 08:33 |
| kanzure | http://www.ringabell.org/en/un-simple-guide-pour-debuter-avec-requirejs/ | 08:34 |
| kanzure | oh this is probably good for a slightly bigger project involving bower + requirejs: | 08:34 |
| kanzure | http://www.henriquebarroso.com/creating-a-dynamic-modular-multi-page-app-with-backbone-js-and-requirejs/ | 08:34 |
| kanzure | "We will endup with a single merged file for each bundle, and a single common file for our global dependencies like Backbone.js, RequireJs, jQuery and so on." | 08:35 |
| delinquentme | klafka, how does you not feel worried in oakland | 08:37 |
| delinquentme | you dont have dis brain replacement yet | 08:37 |
| delinquentme | how do? | 08:37 |
| ParahSailin | hm, $.map does do (a->[[b]]) -> [a] -> [[b]] | 08:38 |
| ParahSailin | so you just have to use extra [] | 08:38 |
| ParahSailin | surprise, mathematically incorrect behavior! | 08:45 |
| delinquentme | guys next to me playing startup buzzword bingo | 08:50 |
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| klafka | delinquentme: because i know how to appropriately moderate risk | 09:00 |
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| klafka | and like i said as long as you are smart and know what areas to avoid | 09:00 |
| klafka | and know what situations to avoid | 09:00 |
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| fenn | jeesh alec resnick can't even get his own blog in order | 09:05 |
| fenn | anyway i guess he made an NMR machine: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aresnick/sets/72157605479946348/ | 09:05 |
| klafka | anyone else watching googl i/o? | 09:06 |
| kanzure | oh is that today.. ugh. | 09:06 |
| klafka | lol | 09:07 |
| kanzure | .title https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/05/disappointing-unsealing-decision-aaron-swartz-case | 09:17 |
| yoleaux | Disappointing Unsealing Decision in Aaron Swartz Case | Electronic Frontier Foundation | 09:17 |
| kanzure | "The Court gave short shrift to the great public interest here, dismissing it as significantly less important than the vague and largely unspecified "incidents of harassment and retaliation" claimed by the government, MIT and JSTOR. The judge used these alleged incidents as justification for removing nearly all identifying information of those involved—regardless of how likely they were to be actual targets for retaliation. It is difficult ... | 09:18 |
| kanzure | ... to believe that this case posed a bigger threat of retaliation than other federal cases involving violent offenses or organized crime, such that broad witness secrecy is required even after the case has ended." | 09:18 |
| kanzure | Received: from cert.lexis-nexis.com (mxc3.lexisnexis.com. [207.25.181.148]) | 09:24 |
| kanzure | Received: from cpc22208 by cert.lexis-nexis.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id r4FGK14B014275 | 09:24 |
| kanzure | Message-ID: <387458098.25581368634801140.JavaMail.u1elswas@cpc22208> | 09:24 |
| kanzure | X-ELS-AlertID: 2013135; X-ELS-DeliveryID: 22208:446938591; X-ELS-PipelineName: SDVIALERT; X-ELS-UpdateID: 5935464 | 09:24 |
| kanzure | curious. | 09:24 |
| kanzure | From: ScienceDirect Message Center <valert@cert.sciencedirect.com> | 09:25 |
| fenn | you're getting harrassing emails? | 09:29 |
| kanzure | no, my filters from 4 years ago have started to fail because they changed something in their outgoing emails | 09:30 |
| kanzure | i signed up for automated alerts for every single one of their journals and publications | 09:30 |
| kanzure | and for some reason these emails are being sent from lexis-nexis.com? | 09:31 |
| fenn | well they are the same sort of business i guess | 09:31 |
| kanzure | yes i think they are both elsevier | 09:32 |
| kanzure | mendelsevier, i mean. | 09:32 |
| fenn | since 1994! | 09:32 |
| fenn | man what a pitifully lacking wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_Direct | 09:34 |
| klafka | uggh | 09:34 |
| fenn | hey here's one of the most important things in the world.. here's a paragraph about it, kthxbye | 09:34 |
| kanzure | at least springer has one or two sentences more.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpringerLink | 09:35 |
| kanzure | "Within STM, Springer is[when?] the largest book publisher and second-largest journal publisher worldwide after Elsevier, with around 55 publishing houses, almost 6,200 employees and around 2,000 journals and 7,000 new books published each year.[3]" | 09:35 |
| kanzure | "ScienceDirect is website operated by the Dutch publisher Elsevier containing (as of 2013) about 11 million articles from 2,500 journals and 6,000 e-books, reference works, book series and handbooks." | 09:35 |
| kanzure | wait, 7k books/year is way more than 6k ebooks total | 09:36 |
| fenn | i think they're comparing the number of journals | 09:36 |
| fenn | "the largest book publisher and second-largest journal publisher" | 09:36 |
| kanzure | but yes it's pretty absurd how there's so little information about these services | 09:37 |
| a3nm | kanzure: sorry for the late reply | 09:37 |
| kanzure | a3nm: hello | 09:38 |
| a3nm | kanzure: whether i'm interested in maintaining my fork and integrating things mostly depends on whether the people i did the fork for end up using it | 09:38 |
| a3nm | so far they haven't :-P | 09:38 |
| a3nm | kanzure: (hello) | 09:38 |
| kanzure | who did you do the fork for? | 09:38 |
| a3nm | friends on a private server | 09:39 |
| fenn | fork of what? | 09:39 |
| a3nm | we're a bunch of people from various institutions, so there used to be manual requests for papers | 09:39 |
| a3nm | fenn: paperbot | 09:39 |
| kanzure | hello bunch of people | 09:39 |
| kanzure | you will be assimilated | 09:39 |
| a3nm | i started this fork to try and automatize the process, but no one's used it so far | 09:39 |
| a3nm | kanzure: hah ^^ | 09:39 |
| kanzure | one of the projects that i want to do is auto login to other proxies | 09:40 |
| a3nm | login ? | 09:40 |
| kanzure | because i have a pile of logins that i haven't implemented | 09:40 |
| kanzure | yes | 09:40 |
| a3nm | ah | 09:40 |
| kanzure | for instance, through these endpoints: https://github.com/kanzure/ezproxy-urls/blob/master/urls.txt | 09:40 |
| a3nm | the way i intended to do it was to use socks proxies to benefit from ip-based subscriptions | 09:40 |
| a3nm | because we have a server so it would be reasonable for people to set up ssh tunnels from their to their institutions | 09:41 |
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| kanzure | well whatever, that's definitely possible. | 09:41 |
| a3nm | yeah, that's what i did | 09:41 |
| a3nm | only people didn't show much interest to create the tunnels | 09:42 |
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| a3nm | so well... i won't bother you with a pull request until there's some evidence people are using the thing | 09:42 |
| a3nm | just so you know :) | 09:43 |
| kanzure | how many people? | 09:44 |
| a3nm | i dunno... 20-30 i'd say | 09:44 |
| kanzure | i encourage you to spam your ideas to https://groups.google.com/group/science-liberation-front | 09:45 |
| kanzure | fenn: i'm surprised nobody in the media is kicking up dirt about NTRS since it was 2% of the entirety of science. shouldn't john carmack be complaining? | 09:45 |
| kanzure | the rocketry mailing list has some people that are expressing a concern, but it's not anywhere near the levels of anger that this catastrophe should be invoking. | 09:45 |
| a3nm | kanzure: yeah, i knew about this, but thanks for the list | 09:46 |
| kanzure | a3nm: ok. then maybe this would be helpful too? http://diyhpl.us/wiki/articles article requesting sites/services. | 09:46 |
| a3nm | thanks | 09:46 |
| a3nm | once again, from my side at least, the problem seems to me that there's not enough demand for such things instead of not enough offer | 09:47 |
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| fenn | kanzure: i think everyone in aerospace engineering has totally burned out (pardon the pun) on ITAR related issues | 09:47 |
| a3nm | (maybe because we're spoilt people with univ subscription accesses who just need such things when our institution doesn't have the right subscription) | 09:47 |
| fenn | heh pirateuniversity.org | 09:49 |
| fenn | it strikes me that a web page of requests needing manual attention is the wrong way to do it | 09:50 |
| kanzure | yeah, the rocketry people are concerned that uploading old NTRS docs will violate ITAR | 09:51 |
| kanzure | so i introduced them to TOR and pdfparanoia and asked them to send me samples so that i can check for identity-compromising watermarks | 09:52 |
| kanzure | fenn: yes, manual requests is bullshit but for some reason that's the first idea that everyone has :( | 09:52 |
| fenn | so people actually have large fractions of NTRS? | 09:52 |
| kanzure | nope.. they haven't made clear statements about size. | 09:55 |
| kanzure | so far these are the largest: http://ntrs.nasa.gov/ (well, what's remaining) | 09:56 |
| kanzure | http://www.aric.or.kr/ | 09:56 |
| fenn | i mean if it's less than 1000 documents i'm not sure i see the point | 09:56 |
| kanzure | http://archive.org/details/nasa_techdocs | 09:56 |
| kanzure | http://naca.central.cranfield.ac.uk/ | 09:56 |
| kanzure | http://digital.library.unt.edu/explore/collections/NACA/ | 09:56 |
| kanzure | yeah, i don't think any of these add up to the missing 85% | 09:56 |
| fenn | what does aric.or.kr have? | 09:57 |
| kanzure | not sure, some blogs are claiming it has an (online?) ntrs backup | 09:59 |
| fenn | techbriefs.com is probably worth mirroring | 10:02 |
| kanzure | so, i have arranged for 20 TB and we should put this to use | 10:04 |
| fenn | i have arranged them in a pile on my desk | 10:05 |
| kanzure | i mean an anonymous wealthy benefactor | 10:05 |
| fenn | matthew travis says "how many of us have our own "private" libraries of NTRS documents? I downloaded all of them about 5 years ago and keep it stored offline when I need reference material. Heck, I've hosted the SP-8000 series on a website for anyone to get for years." | 10:11 |
| fenn | i guess he's referring to http://www.spaceflightnews.net/staticpages/index.php?page=SP8000 | 10:18 |
| fenn | it's only 163 documents | 10:19 |
| kanzure | we should work on getting realistic estimates of the size of NTRS | 10:20 |
| kanzure | internet archive has 20k documents | 10:20 |
| kanzure | NTRS about page claims 200k documents, but also other things.. " Over 500,000 aerospace-related citations, over 200,000 full-text online documents, and over 500,000 images and videos are available. " | 10:20 |
| kanzure | i mean, that paragraph looks like someone wrote it, and it wasn't an accurate counter. | 10:20 |
| kanzure | "NACA Collection: Citations and reports from the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics period lasting from 1916 to 1958." | 10:21 |
| kanzure | "NASA Collection: Citations and documents created or sponsored by NASA starting in 1958 and continuing to the present." | 10:21 |
| kanzure | "NIX Collection: Citations and links to the images, photos, movies, and videos from the discontinued NASA Image eXchange (NIX)" | 10:21 |
| kanzure | http://ntrs.nasa.gov/?method=harvest "NTRS promotes the dissemination of NASA STI to the widest audience possible by allowing NTRS information to be harvested by sites using the Open Archives Initiative Protocol for Metadata Harvesting (OAI-PMH). OAI-PMH defines a mechanism for information technology systems to exchange citation information using the open standards HTTP (Hypertext Transport Protocol) and XML (Extensible Markup Language). NTRS ... | 10:21 |
| kanzure | ... is designed to accept and respond to automated requests using OAI-PMH. Automated requests only harvest citation information and not the full-text document images." | 10:22 |
| kanzure | http://ntrs.nasa.gov/?verb=ListRecords&metadataPrefix=oai_dc | 10:24 |
| kanzure | <header status="deleted"><identifier>oai:casi.ntrs.nasa.gov:19780070036</identifier><datestamp>2013-05-15</datestamp></header> | 10:25 |
| fenn | how did you decide to fetch that particular document? | 10:27 |
| kanzure | http://www.openarchives.org/OAI/openarchivesprotocol.html | 10:28 |
| kanzure | is how. the verb "ListRecords" seems to be useful. but limited to 100 records/response. | 10:28 |
| kanzure | oh geeze they want you to use "resumptionToken" to resume your previous request | 10:29 |
| kanzure | http://ntrs.nasa.gov/?verb=ListRecords&metadataPrefix=casi_dc&resumptionToken=!!casi_dc!!101!200 | 10:29 |
| kanzure | oh, it's not based on my current session but rather has a format like !!casi_dc!!501!600 and !!casi_dc!!601!700 for the next page | 10:30 |
| kanzure | i wonder if they disabled the old documents through OAI-PMH or just in their weird web interface. | 10:31 |
| fenn | but OAI-PMH is only for metadata | 10:31 |
| fenn | it would still be useful of course | 10:31 |
| kanzure | oh darn, what's the point of this shit if it doesn't give you a url to the actual file? | 10:33 |
| kanzure | http://ntrs.nasa.gov/?verb=GetRecord&identifier=19620002455&metadataPrefix=casi_dc | 10:33 |
| fenn | because it can give you an accurate count of the number of documents, and what they're about | 10:34 |
| kanzure | argh stupid rate limit | 10:34 |
| kanzure | "Access forbidden!" http://trs.nis.nasa.gov/view/subjects/spacecraft-ctrl.html | 10:35 |
| kanzure | this page seems to indicate that if i was using a nasa ip address that the content would be available | 10:36 |
| fenn | i see 841,472 records on ntrs published since 1958 | 10:39 |
| kanzure | so their 200k number was bullshit? | 10:40 |
| fenn | unclear | 10:41 |
| fenn | okay including pre-1958 stuff here's what i see http://trs.nis.nasa.gov/search.jsp?Nf=Publication-Date|GT+07260626&Ns=Publication-Date|0&N=0 | 10:42 |
| fenn | is the OAI-MPH any better than that metadata? | 10:43 |
| kanzure | the metadata i was seeing was pretty weak, here's a single document http://ntrs.nasa.gov/?verb=GetRecord&identifier=19620002455&metadataPrefix=casi_dc | 10:43 |
| fenn | yeah it just has more decoration | 10:44 |
| fenn | but the search results page gives you the URL | 10:45 |
| fenn | so i'm curious why anyone would want just the metadata and no link to the data | 10:45 |
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| fenn | that results page says 515458 photos, 1211 videos, 119765 full text, 158805 "from other sources", and 52235 "from casi" | 10:51 |
| fenn | many early documents are not digitized | 10:53 |
| fenn | perhaps that's what "from other sources" means | 10:54 |
| kanzure | "Record 9 of 847474" blerg, so i don't understand, was 847k the original amount or were there more? | 10:55 |
| fenn | there's also ntrs.nasa.gov/sitemap.xml which eventually contains urls like http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=19620001730 | 10:59 |
| fenn | i mean http://ntrs.nasa.gov/sitemap_index.xml | 10:59 |
| kanzure | ooh, i wonder if their sitemap has been updated lately | 11:00 |
| kanzure | yeah i think grabbing their sitemap is a better idea | 11:01 |
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| fenn | which points to 386k records | 11:01 |
| fenn | huh, some of those urls are pdfs | 11:02 |
| fenn | i'm really sort of confused what ntrs actually is, it seems to contain random stuff from different journals | 11:03 |
| kanzure | i should note that document IDs seem to be consecutive integers | 11:03 |
| kanzure | http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=19620001134 | 11:03 |
| kanzure | http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=19620001135 | 11:03 |
| fenn | they're not all consecutive | 11:04 |
| fenn | maybe it would prove insightful to examine what's missing | 11:04 |
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| fenn | blergh i can't look at it any more.. this seems like another good starting point though http://trs-new.jpl.nasa.gov/dspace/browse-date?order=oldestfirst | 11:23 |
| kanzure | you could use HTTP HEAD to quickly test which integers correspond to existing articles | 11:25 |
| kanzure | "Showing items 1-21 of 23961" | 11:25 |
| fenn | oh, i misread that, only 23k | 11:26 |
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| fenn | you think the sitemap and existing documents dont match up? | 11:28 |
| kanzure | i think the sitemap might not list out all 800k articles | 11:28 |
| fenn | there are 800k documents, which includes photos and non-digitized papers | 11:29 |
| fenn | the sitemap lists 55k pdfs | 11:29 |
| fenn | the sitemap lists 386k records (including those pdfs) | 11:30 |
| fenn | i dont get why the numbers dont match up | 11:31 |
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| fenn | 158805+119765+52235+1211 = 332016 which is about the same as grep "R=" sitemap*xml | wc -l = 331553 apparently non-digitized records | 11:35 |
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| fenn | or at least not-available on ntrs | 11:36 |
| fenn | due to copyright issues mostly | 11:37 |
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| kanzure | gah, they just have lots of weird endpoints where they throw up documents http://ston.jsc.nasa.gov/collections/TRS/ | 11:46 |
| kanzure | "Files available for downloading" http://ston.jsc.nasa.gov/collections/TRS/listall.cgi | 11:46 |
| kanzure | this claims that proquest might have copies of NASA technical reports http://www.lib.utexas.edu/indexes/titles.php?id=8 | 11:47 |
| kanzure | paperbot: http://search.proquest.com/aerospace | 11:47 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/c00a70e579a0acb7b6a2005fff7ab882.txt | 11:47 |
| kanzure | <div class="loadtip_content"> PLEASE WAIT, LOADING...</div> | 11:47 |
| kanzure | paperbot: http://search.proquest.com/extras/foresee/foresee-trigger.js | 11:48 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/37497c98e2d087e6df45ae92009f4e1f.txt | 11:48 |
| kanzure | what's with all the ip addresses here? http://search.proquest.com/extras/foresee/foresee-surveydef.js | 11:50 |
| kanzure | paperbot: http://search.proquest.com/extras/foresee/foresee-surveydef.js | 11:50 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/406cec0211ca961a7c7455cf6dc00c64.txt | 11:50 |
| kanzure | oh well. can't verify. | 11:54 |
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| superkuh | paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0094576513001227 | 19:49 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Estimates%20of%20Carrington-class%20solar%20particle%20event%20radiation%20exposures%20as%20a%20function%20of%20altitude%20in%20the%20atmosphere%20of%20Mars.txt | 19:49 |
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| kanzure | "CLARITY then goes one better. In preserving the full continuity of neuronal structures, CLARITY not only allows tracing of individual neural connections over long distances through the brain, but also provides a way to gather rich, molecular information describing a cell's function that is not possible with other methods." | 20:07 |
| kanzure | ""We thought that if we could remove the lipids nondestructively, we might be able to get both light and macromolecules to penetrate deep into tissue, allowing not only 3-D imaging, but also 3-D molecular analysis of the intact brain," said Deisseroth, who holds the D.H. Chen Professorship." | 20:07 |
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| juri_ | nice hack, eh? | 20:08 |
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| kanzure | "We're setting up a DIYBio lab in Seattle (HiveBio) and have a bunch of donated equipment. The thermocycler is this model: Ericomp Twin block system; Easy Cycler Series; Model: EZ cycler; Datecode: 9534;P/N TCX20A-110/M5; We're looking online and can't find a manual for it - does anyone happen to have a manual of this, or a similar model, or have any good ideas of where one could be obtained? (I already contacted an ebay seller who is selling ... | 22:16 |
| kanzure | ... a similar model - no reply yet)" | 22:16 |
| kanzure | stalk: Zeb Haradon <zebharadon@gmail.com> | 22:16 |
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