2013-05-16.log

--- Log opened Thu May 16 00:00:28 2013
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kanzure"I'm emerging from my lurking mode to signal that my book "Biohackers. The Politics of Open Science" is out. It is a social sciences book that focuses on the cultures of open science, and only one chapter is on DIYbio, but I hope some of you might find it interesting. The interviews on DIYbio were done mostly in LA and San Francisco: thanks to the Californian crowd again! http://www.plutobooks.com/display.asp?K=9780745332802 "06:59
kanzureugh i knew he seemed fishy for a reason06:59
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kanzure"Biohackers explores fundamental changes occuring in the circulation and ownership of scientific information. Alessandro Delfanti argues that the combination of the ethos of 20th century science, the hacker movement and the free software movement is producing an open science culture which redefines the relationship between researchers, scientific institutions and commercial companies.  Biohackers looks at the emergence of the citizen biology ...07:00
kanzure... community ‘DIYbio’, the shift to open access by the American biologist Craig Venter and the rebellion of the Italian virologist Ilaria Capua against WHO data-sharing policies. Delfanti argues that these biologists and many others are involved in a transformation of both life sciences and information systems, using open access tools and claiming independence from both academic and corporate institutions. Alessandro Delfanti teaches New ...07:00
kanzure... Media at the University of Milan."07:00
kanzure"new media"07:00
kanzurewhy would craig venter be an example in support of open access? i'm pretty sure he was the one arguing for evil patents the whole time.07:01
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chris_99haha07:04
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heathhate to make you clarify once more, but you're .coffee files are transpiling into es3 compliant code?10:09
heathwow10:09
heathtil: .coffee targets es310:09
* heath has been writing es6 code and letting grunt take care of the rest10:10
kanzureit might be es3 compliant, but there's no way it's es610:10
heathofc10:10
heathhttps://github.com/aaronfrost/grunt-traceur10:11
heathwhat is used over har10:11
kanzuremitmproxy acting as a custom caching server dumping into postgresql10:12
heathif that's something you're interested in, your project would also benefit from http://square.github.io/es6-module-transpiler/10:12
heathbut i know you want to stick with .coffee10:12
kanzureat the moment i'm not using har because i wanted database objects but i could be convinced to use har10:12
kanzurewow, lulzsec got soft time. i was expecting more. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/05/16/lulzsec_sentencing/10:14
heathkanzure: you have heard of http://casperjs.org/ before, right?10:15
kanzureyes, i've heard of casperjs and i hate it10:15
heathwhy?10:15
kanzureit relies on tons of globals and they are fuckwads because it's not a commonjs module10:15
heathoh10:16
kanzurethey override require()10:16
heaththat is tarded10:16
kanzurehttp://github.com/n1k0/casperjs/issues/46210:16
heathgithub.com/heath/bsh unfortunately sucks too in the globals regard10:17
heathi plan on fixing this at some point if it's a project that ever gets traction10:17
kanzurehttps://github.com/substack/schoolbus is the only realistic alternative i'm aware of10:17
heathright now, btc bots pay better10:17
heathhttps://github.com/ariya/phantomjs/wiki/Related-Projects10:22
kanzureyes i am aware of these10:23
kanzuremost of these- with the exception of pyphantomjs and ghost.py- are smaller and less sophisticated than the codebase i've written10:24
kanzureghost.py is problematic because they refuse to recompile webkit to not require xvfb or whatever. i'd really rather use xserver-xorg-video-dummy or even no xsever at all.10:24
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kanzure"Recently, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) Office of Biotechnology Activities made significant changes to their rules so that research involving synthetic nucleic acids is now covered by the agency’s requirements (now entitled “NIH Guidelines for Research Involving Recombinant or Synthetic Nucleic Acid Molecules”).  This change means that many experiments that were not previously regulated by NIH – including research in the ...10:40
kanzure... non-life science fields, such as Chemistry and Engineering -- may now be covered under the amended NIH Guidelines."10:40
kanzure"Research groups working, or planning to work, with synthetic nucleic acids, including chemically or otherwise modified analogs of nucleotides, need to register with the UC Berkeley Biosafety Office and submit a Biological Use Authorization (BUA) application to the Committee for Laboratory and Environmental Biosafety (CLEB) for review. "10:40
kanzure"In addition, another change to the NIH Guidelines affects research wherein antibiotic resistance genes are introduced into pathogenic agents that are not known to acquire the trait naturally.  For this type of research, the NIH has expanded their review to consider resistance to antibiotics that may be important in treating a selected subgroup of the population, such as children, pregnant women, or the elderly.  Previously, only antibiotics ...10:40
kanzure... that were used in primary treatment of an agent were subjected to additional review.  If your research includes the introduction of this type of antibiotic resistance, please contact the Biosafety Office for information on amending your protocol."10:40
kanzurehttp://www.oshwa.org/2013/05/16/oshw-doc-jam-followups-releasing-the-format-to-the-community/10:42
kanzure"We had almost 40 people working along the three days to think about possible strategies and solutions, prototype (some times) and sharing them with the public in real time. Two parallel Jams in Berlin and Amsterdam were held and we are now opensourcing the format to share the lesson we learnt and allow others to use this format for this or other application fields."10:42
kanzure"There are a bunch of good places online to discuss about open hardware and we will be posting the news there (eg: OSHWA mailing list, Ouishare Factory Facebook Group, The Open Manufacturing google group, etc…)"10:43
kanzurebleh "I’ve also created this Facebook group called Open Source Hardware Community https://www.facebook.com/groups/194351110718598/ to trigger a contextual discussion on building a stronger OSHW community of users and creators worldwide so…please join!"10:43
kanzure"It’s not the objective of this post to going deep in the content since the discussion just started and we’ll keep you informed about the next steps and how to join. Here at this link you can find all the documentation available in a google docs directory https://drive.google.com/#folders/0BwJSOhVDu4bQSU1hZkhUc0cyMms. A zip file is also available. All documentaion is released in CC-BY. This will be hugely useful to anyone moving her steps ...10:43
kanzure... in the OSHW industry with a product, a startup or even just a passion"10:43
kanzure"Here’s a link to a PDF file describing the Jam Format so that you can use it on your own https://docs.google.com/file/d/1vFKpGmpyQGFEXrwxBk90AKIdRyIOowVPkONR9VPMtPLB0UDTI1gHdctLKzmde5ZD2xH9gy_mh0X_s66N/edit?usp=sharing "10:43
kanzure"Here’s a Google Doc you can Download or Fork https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cxiXM7nl-ZsXUWCt-CPNwWZSeeMBdb2M-b2JCvOCqkU/edit# "10:43
kanzureuh, google docs doesn't really support forking.10:43
kanzureand this looks like a conference format, not a file format. what the fuck?10:44
kanzureoh it's a "folder".. of some sort. https://drive.google.com/#folders/0BwJSOhVDu4bQSU1hZkhUc0cyMms10:44
kanzureman i knew this was going to suck. in the end they didn't seem to write an actual standard.10:45
kanzurehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/12-AJESGhvyT-CE1UEs4qE8G3Ycf-4mEAO1ZbIwvF0Cw/edit10:46
kanzure"Lack of free/open source engineering tools" fucking liars10:46
kanzure"Lack of project level forking/branching/merging (session on this later)" liars..10:46
kanzure"Part of process would need to include identifying the product to buyout" what's wrong with just using brlcad?10:46
kanzure"J - this is a big deal, we talk this at Mach 30 all the time.  It’s easy to spend $200,000 just on engineering software, volunteers cannot be expected to spend this kind of money just to participate" who cares, just use brlcad.10:47
kanzure"J - plus tools and machinery to build things with" yes, you have to build things. that's why you're in this project. duh.10:47
kanzurethis is just all sorts of disappointing10:48
kanzuresigh. so if the people purporting to be the open source hardware association can't get their act together for standards/file formats, i'm not sure what to do. i guess i could send them hate mail and tell them they shouldn't have ignored the prior emails (not just mine, but everyone else's) prior to the conference. it's as if nobody read those emails. i didn't write to them just to feel good about myself.10:51
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eudoxiai don't think they even know what a file format/standard is10:53
kanzureyeah true, there's not enough "SHOULD" and "MUST" in here..10:55
eudoxiathe 'standard' is probably a .doc template or something10:55
kanzurei dunno what they were thinking then? "let's just get together and feel good about ourselves"10:55
kanzurenope there's no .doc-style template in this collection.10:55
kanzurejust some meeting minutes, some notes, and then lots of files about "how to replicate our success".10:56
eudoxiahahaha10:56
eudoxia'read the skdb package spec? sorry, i'm more of an agile dev/flash mob thinking kind of innovator'10:57
kanzurei would have been happy if they just read ISO 10303 things10:58
kanzurei have no idea what mindset you would have to possess to announce to the world that you are doing something as critical as coming up with a open source hardware standard, and then not prepare yourself.11:00
kanzurehttp://www.leandomainsearch.com/blog/42-an-inside-look-at-lean-domain-search-s-brandable-domain-name-generation-algorithm11:02
kanzurehuh, he found some good ones in there. "sponsora"11:05
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kanzure"endorsera" hah11:10
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kanzureThomasEgi: someone pm'd me, but i never saw it in time before the fellow disappeared. let me know if you think i should contact him.11:24
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kanzure.title http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=140012:21
yoleauxShtetl-Optimized » Blog Archive » D-Wave: Truth finally starts to emerge12:21
eudoxiai always liked the blog subtitle12:22
eudoxia>Quantum computers are not known to be able to solve NP-complete problems in polynomial time, and can be simulated classically with exponential slowdown.12:22
eudoxiai know so little12:22
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kanzurehttps://github.com/mothran/bunny "Bunny is intended to act as a layer 1/2 technology that attempts to hide its wireless mesh communication traffic. Bunny wraps all data in and out in a layer of obfoscation, it does this by passively listening to the local wireless and building a model of 'average' traffic. Then using this model it hides small snippets of data within various fields of the 802.11 protocol, that are either poorly defined or ...12:35
kanzure... prone to contain data that mutates a lot. These fields will include but are not limited to; vendor data, data packets of encrypted networks, duration fields."12:35
kanzure"Attempt to make a bunny tun device so testing with the batman-adv kernal module"12:37
kanzurehttp://www.open-mesh.org/projects/batman-adv/wiki "The approach of the B.A.T.M.A.N algorithm is to divide the knowledge about the best end-to-end paths between nodes in the mesh to all participating nodes. Each node perceives and maintains only the information about the best next hop towards all other nodes. Thereby the need for a global knowledge about local topology changes becomes unnecessary."12:38
kanzurehmm.12:38
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* juri_ reads the scroll.13:45
juri_Ugh. an open source hardware aliance.13:48
juri_i knew someone would fill the vacuum eventually.13:48
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ParahSailinok now i need a watermark to embed into pngs13:59
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kanzurepaperbot: http://www.physicstoday.org/resource/1/phtoad/v21/i10/p55_s115:07
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/A%20Visit%20to%20the%20Serpukhov%2076-GeV%20Synchrotron.pdf15:07
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kanzurewin 415:36
kanzurefdjkadlfjadjfaklasjfa15:36
chris_99kanzure, the other day you mentioned a rocketry mailing list iirc, what's the url of that perchance15:39
kanzurehttp://exrocketry.net/mailman/listinfo/arocket15:40
kanzurethis is where john carmack started to hate me or w/e15:40
chris_99cheers, does john carmack build rockets or something?15:41
kanzureyou should know his name because of wolfenstein 3d, doom, quake and armadillo aerospace.15:42
chris_99yeah i recognised it from doom15:43
chris_99i'm just playing around with microhybrid n2o rockets at the moment, but it turns out PIC doesn't burn hot enough to melt plastic for me15:46
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ParahSai1inPIB?15:59
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superkuhpaperbot: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v497/n7448/full/nature12143.html18:15
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Hypothalamic%20programming%20of%20systemic%20ageing%20involving%20IKK-%2C%20NF-B%20and%20GnRH.pdf18:15
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kanzurecuretogether was acquired by 23andme?18:44
kanzurecpu memory http://www.akkadia.org/drepper/cpumemory.pdf and again http://gee.cs.oswego.edu/dl/html/malloc.html18:49
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kanzurepaperbot: http://www.akkadia.org/drepper/cpumemory.pdf18:51
paperbotno translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/32393c31dd47bf5a1477c001933dddc9.pdf18:51
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