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| archels | heh, this Nature paper actually references Wiener N (1949) Cybernetics | 02:26 |
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| archels | I don't suppose anyone has that lying around? | 02:26 |
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| kanzure | beeep | 08:23 |
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| kanzure | yashgaroth: hello | 09:13 |
| yashgaroth | hoi | 09:13 |
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| nmz787 | paperbot: http://www.nature.com/nm/journal/v18/n9/full/nm.2913.html | 11:30 |
| paperbot | HTTP 401 unauthorized http://www.nature.com/nm/journal/v18/n9/pdf/nm.2913.pdf | 11:30 |
| nmz787 | paperbot: http://www.nature.com/nm/journal/v18/n9/pdf/nm.2913.pdf | 11:30 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/8101caea0ba386577715f8ff444104f1.txt | 11:30 |
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| heath | paperbot: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/am2004009 | 12:51 |
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| kanzure | heath: any chance of paperbot improvements? | 12:58 |
| heath | the only way i know to improve paperbot is to find a willing participant who has access to more paywalls | 12:59 |
| heath | and _then_ improve paperbot :) | 13:00 |
| kanzure | there are many things to do even without more access.. :| | 13:03 |
| kanzure | have you looked at how it uses zotero? removing the zotero dependency could clean up a lot of slop. or replacing all the other parts that aren't zotero. | 13:04 |
| Burninate | What would you say is the academic background necessary for this community? | 13:05 |
| * Burninate is compiling lists of textbooks for to lern from | 13:05 | |
| kanzure | necessary? zilch. | 13:05 |
| kanzure | textbooks are awful but if you insist there's http://diyhpl.us/wiki/diybio/faq/books | 13:06 |
| heath | designed my first dna square yesterday :) | 13:06 |
| heath | now to make the dna synthesizer myself or send it off to someone else | 13:06 |
| Burninate | kanzure: Have a better option that is home-accessible? | 13:06 |
| Burninate | moocs or lectures or something? | 13:06 |
| kanzure | Burninate: those links should work, wtf | 13:06 |
| Burninate | they do 0.o | 13:07 |
| kanzure | i mean, the pdf files should be accessible to you | 13:07 |
| Burninate | they are | 13:07 |
| kanzure | unless we blocked you.. for no reason. i guess. | 13:07 |
| Burninate | you said textbooks were awful | 13:07 |
| Burninate | I'm asking for alternatives to textbooks | 13:07 |
| kanzure | what are you doing, again? | 13:07 |
| Burninate | dunno yet :) | 13:08 |
| heath | Burninate: https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/School:Chemistry https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/School:Biology | 13:08 |
| heath | there's a start | 13:08 |
| heath | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Chemistry or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Biology even | 13:08 |
| Burninate | wondering what the next step after HS bio and 2 semesters of college chemistry is | 13:08 |
| kanzure | depends on what you want to do, sorry. | 13:09 |
| Burninate | organic chemistry & college bio? | 13:09 |
| Burninate | When led you here kanzure? | 13:09 |
| kanzure | i made this channel to work on a specific list of transhumanist technologies with other people | 13:11 |
| kanzure | an ok summary exists here http://diyhpl.us/wiki/declaration but that's not a list of active projects or people working on whatever areas | 13:13 |
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| Urchin | I do my textbook shopping over on undernet | 14:11 |
| kanzure | library genesis seems to be more extensive. | 14:11 |
| Urchin | I haven't used that | 14:14 |
| Urchin | ps2 on undernet has some great stuff | 14:14 |
| kanzure | how much? | 14:16 |
| Urchin | how much what? | 14:20 |
| kanzure | stuff. | 14:20 |
| Urchin | hundreds of titles per subject | 14:20 |
| kanzure | that seems really limited? | 14:21 |
| Urchin | it's still a lot more than I'm willing to actually read | 14:23 |
| kanzure | i think libgen is around 870k books | 14:23 |
| Urchin | the advantage of that particular server is in how easy it is to find books on particular subjects, as it's all well sorted | 14:24 |
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| heath | i'm unsure how to transport the dna product from the microfludic chip to the synthesis area to the sequencing area | 14:48 |
| kanzure | beads | 14:48 |
| kanzure | bubbles | 14:48 |
| heath | given that i figure that out, i'm unsure how to get it under an afm||stm | 14:48 |
| kanzure | stm sequencing of dna is overkill | 14:49 |
| heath | not for sequencing, i just want to verify i have a little boxes floating around | 14:49 |
| heath | s/a// | 14:49 |
| heath | might want to make the shape more distinct... | 14:50 |
| Urchin | open air stm? | 14:50 |
| heath | preferably | 14:51 |
| kanzure | also if you feel like copying cambrian genomics then you can also choose laser propulsion of dna-bound beads | 14:51 |
| Urchin | heath: isn't that too unreliable? | 15:04 |
| kanzure | at this point you can be confident about dna folding results for simple topologies just given information about whether or not the dna was properly synthesized. | 15:05 |
| kanzure | so i assumed sequencing | 15:05 |
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| heath | guess i should make a relatively complex structure than | 15:19 |
| heath | then* | 15:19 |
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| heath | oh, i want the splotbot | 15:45 |
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| ielo | hi | 15:53 |
| heath | hi ielo | 15:54 |
| ielo | how are you | 15:54 |
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| heath | doing good ielo | 16:18 |
| heath | haven't seen you before | 16:18 |
| heath | is this your first time here? | 16:18 |
| kanzure | no, he was spamming a few years ago and i discussed this problem with him on 2013-05-08 | 16:19 |
| kanzure | i think it was 2011-06-25 | 16:19 |
| ielo | haha | 16:20 |
| ielo | kanzure, why do you remember that | 16:23 |
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| heath | curious to know how these teams changed the wiki so dramatically | 16:58 |
| heath | http://2012.igem.org/Team:Calgary/Team | 16:58 |
| heath | http://2012.igem.org/Team:Cornell | 16:58 |
| heath | http://2012.igem.org/Team:Peking | 16:58 |
| heath | cornell was able to remove the "history, login, view source" links | 16:58 |
| heath | guessing it's a newer version of mediawiki | 16:59 |
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| kanzure | heath: randy rettberg did a lot of custom work on it | 17:02 |
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| heath | Cornell's page is clearly using Foundation | 17:03 |
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| kanzure | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAs7hu9Sv1Q#t=12m "the computers are ready" | 17:18 |
| heath | Ido Bachelet: How will nanobots change medicine? TEDMed Israel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5KLTonB3Pg | 17:19 |
| kanzure | i suspect freitas' book would be more thorough | 17:20 |
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| heath | he gives thanks to drexler, freitas, and kurzweil at the beginning | 17:20 |
| kanzure | why would that matter ? | 17:20 |
| heath | as well as seeman and rothemund, dunno, just mentioning it | 17:21 |
| kanzure | these are names that anyone would mention, though. | 17:21 |
| kanzure | i met ned once. confused him for a unix greybeard. good times. | 17:21 |
| heath | https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=O5f9jgtCvQo#t=442s :: animation from nanoengineer? | 17:22 |
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| kanzure | it's probably https://github.com/kanzure/nanoengineer/blob/master/cad/partlib/gears/Differential%20Gear%20Box.mmp | 17:23 |
| kanzure | i forget which file it's in | 17:24 |
| heath | paperbot: https://www.sciencemag.org/content/338/6109/932.abstract | 17:27 |
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| kanzure | huh i don't remember tor having a gui manager tool thing, https://www.torproject.org/projects/vidalia | 17:38 |
| heath | it's been around a long time | 17:48 |
| heath | first time i ever used tor was through vidalia | 17:48 |
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| kanzure | paperbot: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v495/n7442/full/nature11990.html | 19:03 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/X-ray%20analysis%20on%20the%20nanogram%20to%20microgram%20scale%20using%20porous%20complexes.pdf | 19:03 |
| kanzure | oh wait i read this | 19:03 |
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| kanzure | boom.. https://github.com/ariya/phantomjs/pull/11373/files | 22:33 |
| kanzure | and https://github.com/ariya/phantomjs/pull/11371/files | 22:33 |
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