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archels` | chuckle. entrance fee for the Singularity University Summit Europe is €1500 | 02:10 |
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archels` | it baffles me what sort of audience they're trying to attract | 02:41 |
archels` | business people/entrepreneurs who like to drool over tech and stick their money into it? | 02:42 |
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qfwfq | paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2011.02461.x/abstract | 04:07 |
paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/17b9420eb18ac96c8a8f2cc645c1cef5.txt | 04:07 |
qfwfq | paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2011.02461.x/pdf | 04:08 |
paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/7c9a4acf9b33a83f800bb74265b25ed.txt | 04:08 |
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kanzure | "I'd like to inform you, for those who would not have noticed yet, the new project OCCT Code Refactoring <http://dev.opencascade.org/index.php?q=home/projects/refactoring> is now active on the OCCT development portal. As this project would significantly impact the build, development and use of OCCT, we are especially interested in your feedback and your suggestions. For that, we have open dedicated topics on our forum ... | 06:49 |
kanzure | ... <http://dev.opencascade.org/index.php?q=forum/15>. Daniel" | 06:49 |
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chris_99 | paperbot: http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-642-10665-1_71 | 06:55 |
paperbot | error: HTTP 500 http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/c513bacfb2b7dcb3c62d40682f403bf1.txt | 06:55 |
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kanzure | a little old, but whatever: http://www.catwig.com/google-glass-teardown/ | 12:37 |
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kanzure | behold the glory of phantomjs users https://groups.google.com/d/msg/phantomjs/eWKlbjjH34c/1p6aR8KJ39gJ | 14:16 |
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heath | "You are almost out of space for your Gmail account. Once you run out of space, you will not be able to send or receive any emails until you delete some items. | 15:08 |
heath | You can view our tips on reducing your email storage or purchase additional storage." | 15:08 |
kanzure | yep :| | 15:12 |
kanzure | i am paying them for 90 GB. it sucks. | 15:12 |
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Juul | paperbot, http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00221-013-3579-0 | 16:22 |
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jonathan___ | hi paperbot | 19:26 |
kanzure | jonathan___: hello | 19:27 |
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jonathan___ | anyone ever use semiconductor ph sensors? | 19:27 |
jonathan___ | paperbot doi:10.1038/nmeth.2520 | 19:28 |
jonathan___ | is that how I use that thing | 19:28 |
yashgaroth | http please | 19:28 |
kanzure | paperboti s not that smart, but you could update it https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot | 19:28 |
kanzure | *is not that smart | 19:28 |
jonathan___ | paperbot http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nmeth.2520.html | 19:28 |
paperbot | HTTP 401 unauthorized http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/vaop/ncurrent/pdf/nmeth.2520.pdf | 19:28 |
kanzure | denied :( | 19:28 |
kanzure | try via http://sci-hub.org/ (connect from russia) | 19:28 |
jonathan___ | ph meters are ripe for innovation I say | 19:29 |
jonathan___ | they're a bastion of the dark ages | 19:29 |
yashgaroth | yon glasse bulbes | 19:29 |
JayDugger | papyrus tasseles | 19:30 |
jonathan___ | how does sci-hub work? | 19:31 |
yashgaroth | connect via proxy, enter url, wait long-ass time for download | 19:32 |
jonathan___ | paperbot http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1100456 | 19:33 |
paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/29c7e0edddcb235036ff0bfe00cc23f3.txt | 19:33 |
jonathan___ | I am sure my papers are too obscure | 19:34 |
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yashgaroth | what ieee doesn't give you paper access? | 19:35 |
kanzure | well, it's because paperbot doesn't have access to everything | 19:35 |
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jonathan___ | paperbot http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/articleDetails.jsp?arnumber=1530938 | 19:35 |
paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/2792d4d5cd33c6ab03931ae9fda4876d.txt | 19:35 |
jonathan___ | I like it, even though it is a failure | 19:37 |
jonathan___ | paperbot http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0003267001933616 | 19:37 |
paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/A%20field%20effect%20transistor%20as%20a%20solid-state%20reference%20electrode.pdf | 19:37 |
kanzure | hooray it worked for once | 19:38 |
jonathan___ | ieee is very segregated in terms of access. you have to be a member of a particular society | 19:38 |
kanzure | hah then what's the point | 19:38 |
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jonathan___ | it's just their funding model that's all | 19:39 |
jonathan___ | like nature having multiple pub's | 19:39 |
kanzure | have you seen deepdyve/readcube? | 19:39 |
gradstudentbot | It's not really significant, but there's definitely a trend. | 19:39 |
jonathan___ | geez, acs is charging for a paper from 1975? | 19:42 |
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jonathan___ | paperbot http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ac60363a005 | 19:42 |
paperbot | error: HTTP 500 http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Potassium%20ion-sensitive%20field%20effect%20transistor.txt | 19:42 |
kanzure | paperbot needs to be rewritten to retry via sci-hub.org and other means | 19:42 |
jonathan___ | for the acs, it just does not understand the html well enough. the paper is in there I think | 19:43 |
jonathan___ | paperbot http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/ac60363a005 | 19:43 |
kanzure | <!--AccessDenialMessagePlaceholder--> | 19:43 |
paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/85a08be525e8efda417d4d88353501e2.pdf | 19:44 |
kanzure | oh weird | 19:44 |
kanzure | fucking zotero | 19:44 |
jonathan___ | paperbot http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/ja205684a | 19:45 |
kanzure | paperbot is based on https://github.com/zotero/translators and https://github.com/zotero/translation-server | 19:45 |
paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/30956717a0905340fc5b6eef91b16ef8.pdf | 19:45 |
kanzure | so this means the zotero translators are broken | 19:45 |
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kanzure | plus paperbot's python fallbacks (which are poorly written and awful) aren't working either | 19:45 |
kanzure | (there might not have been a manual acs fallback) | 19:45 |
jonathan___ | really.. did you see my shell scripts LOL | 19:46 |
jonathan___ | they spidered the entire IEEE site just with head, cut, tail | 19:46 |
jonathan___ | and a grep or two | 19:46 |
gradstudentbot | Can I defend with just one aim done? | 19:46 |
kanzure | translation-server runs javascript in gecko (firefox) | 19:46 |
jonathan___ | also nature and acs | 19:46 |
jonathan___ | I recall that tom knight posted a reply to my post about it, saying "please don't do that". Hmm, Ok, I won't. | 19:47 |
jonathan___ | so, I didn't, of course. | 19:47 |
kanzure | "gee thanks, tom" | 19:47 |
jonathan___ | it's a fair comment. should not be done you know. | 19:48 |
kanzure | sci-hub.org is paying people to run proxies | 19:48 |
kanzure | s/people/students/ | 19:48 |
kanzure | gradstudentbot: like you? are you even done with your paper yet? | 19:48 |
gradstudentbot | It was in Science last month. | 19:48 |
jonathan___ | I love this part: <a href="/doi/pdf/10.1046/9999-9999.99999"><!-- Spider trap link --> | 19:49 |
kanzure | hmm | 19:49 |
jonathan___ | Umm hello people, that's lovely | 19:49 |
kanzure | yeah, thanks for telling us | 19:49 |
jonathan___ | yea LOL | 19:49 |
kanzure | AIP started showing an image captcha | 19:49 |
kanzure | of einstein (a copyrighted image) | 19:49 |
gradstudentbot | I am writing the abstract. | 19:49 |
kanzure | i mean, *a copyright-enforced image | 19:49 |
kanzure | i mean, *the einstein foundation is a bunch of jerks | 19:50 |
kanzure | anyway i'm curious how blind users are reading AIP now.. | 19:50 |
delinquentme | why does the friend referral thing work for hiring? | 19:51 |
delinquentme | knowing that the referer knows little to nothing about the technical position | 19:51 |
delinquentme | how does that even work??? | 19:51 |
jonathan___ | If I had stayed in austin I definitely would have written up a browser plugin which everyone could use as a pdf cache system | 19:52 |
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jonathan___ | acs is very friendly though in comparison, I mean they do the spidering for you, see <a href="/doi/abs/10.1021/ac60363a013" class="next" title="Next Article"> | 19:53 |
kanzure | sure | 19:54 |
kanzure | paperbot should be rewritten | 19:54 |
jonathan___ | grep 'class="next"' | cut -d" -f2 | wget | 19:54 |
kanzure | i was thinking of getting rid of gecko and zotero translators | 19:54 |
kanzure | and maybe using the python/gtk/gobject DOM bindings for webkit | 19:54 |
kanzure | but zotero translators already get most metadata.. which is nice. | 19:55 |
jonathan___ | maybe write it in html5 websockets | 19:55 |
kanzure | where would the websockets originate from? | 19:55 |
jonathan___ | friendly connected clients | 19:55 |
kanzure | i'm afraid that would be easy for sysadmins to block on campus | 19:56 |
kanzure | hmm | 19:56 |
jonathan___ | I assume it's possible to do peer to server to peer | 19:56 |
gradstudentbot | Am I going to be first author? | 19:56 |
kanzure | client-server is definitely possible with websockets. | 19:56 |
jonathan___ | the websocket originates from the client side so I dont think it would be a firewall issue. | 19:57 |
jonathan___ | I'm sure someone has an html5 proxy framework somewhere | 19:57 |
kanzure | i've also been pondering things like, how many bitcoins could you charge for the complete history of nature | 19:58 |
kanzure | or what about selling a cheaper subscription | 19:58 |
kanzure | and then selling that to universities | 19:58 |
kanzure | (again just via bitcoins) | 19:58 |
jonathan___ | I would stay away from fake currencies | 19:59 |
jonathan___ | some things are better left alone | 19:59 |
kanzure | bitcoin exists | 20:00 |
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kanzure | don't lie to me | 20:00 |
gradstudentbot | People have tried that, but it doesn't seem to work. | 20:00 |
kanzure | the point isn't to treat it as a currency | 20:02 |
kanzure | the point is to treat it as a way to perform pseudonymous transactions | 20:02 |
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jonathan___ | google bitcoin federal reserve | 20:05 |
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jonathan___ | let's see, you can play with matches, you can play with fire, or you can play with weapons of mass destruction. joshua would you like to play a game? | 20:07 |
kanzure | huh? | 20:09 |
kanzure | are you claimining bitcoin is not useful for pseudonymous transactions? | 20:09 |
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delinquentme | kanzure, have you hung out with andreas sabetelli? | 20:09 |
delinquentme | I think you guys are like locals :P | 20:09 |
kanzure | no records found | 20:09 |
delinquentme | SPEAKING OF | 20:09 |
delinquentme | klafka, | 20:09 |
klafka | yo | 20:09 |
delinquentme | wheres the love man?? | 20:10 |
klafka | i'm in portland atm | 20:10 |
delinquentme | woah! | 20:10 |
delinquentme | whatchoo doing there? | 20:10 |
kanzure | klafka: you should hang out with nmz787_ and jrayhawk and lichen | 20:10 |
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kanzure | klafka_: you should hang out with nmz787_ and jrayhawk and lichen | 20:10 |
klafka_ | i'm actually in the airport | 20:11 |
klafka_ | to go back to sf | 20:11 |
jrayhawk | haha | 20:11 |
klafka_ | sorry i had a busy schedule though :( rave then work <_< | 20:11 |
gradstudentbot | My experiment was working a second ago, but now it doesn't even work. | 20:12 |
klafka_ | anyway boarding ttyl | 20:13 |
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kanzure | do you at least hang out with brownies, Juul, delinquentme? | 20:13 |
jonathan___ | paperbot I would suggest adopting a nym server as your backend so you don't get roasted. | 20:13 |
kanzure | paperbot scrubs papers with pdfparanoia | 20:13 |
kanzure | https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia | 20:13 |
Juul | kanzure, no, does brownies ever come to noisebridge / sudo room / cclabs? | 20:14 |
kanzure | hmmmm | 20:14 |
kanzure | brownies: explain yourself | 20:14 |
delinquentme | I've not met brownies :P | 20:14 |
delinquentme | I know marc is hacking on the mesh net! | 20:14 |
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delinquentme | and that klafka is in portland | 20:14 |
Juul | i think i've found my favorite community wifi project so far | 20:16 |
Juul | http://www.myrtletown.net/wifi.php | 20:16 |
kanzure | "My brother attended a conference where a speaker said that gait of human beings are so unique that an individual can be identified with 100% certainty using the accelerometer of the phone in their pocket." | 20:17 |
kanzure | paperbot: http://www.cs.yale.edu/homes/mfn3/pub/mfn_gait_id.pdf | 20:17 |
kanzure | paperbot: http://users.ece.cmu.edu/~juefeix/btas_2012_felix.pdf | 20:17 |
paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/f6d49c0a2cbbfeb2453e4f18167ccd2b.pdf | 20:17 |
paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/60a38732843c270b2c4bbfc66fb19786.txt | 20:17 |
gradstudentbot | It's contaminated. | 20:17 |
delinquentme | kanzure, noooooooo | 20:19 |
delinquentme | wah???? | 20:19 |
delinquentme | Juul, you should crush on this project then hit up ubuquiti | 20:20 |
jonathan___ | paperbot http://iopscience.iop.org/0964-1726/10/2/322/pdf/0964-1726_10_2_322.pdf | 20:20 |
paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/fe0510020677c70373614e5d9dff578d.pdf | 20:20 |
delinquentme | They've got repeaters around the mission and they're always using SF scenery to get likes | 20:20 |
Juul | delinquentme, yeah, i need to talk to them. i already sent them an angry email when they told me they discontinued access to their SDK | 20:20 |
kanzure | those bastards | 20:21 |
kanzure | but i'm glad you're an official member of the hate mail club. | 20:21 |
jonathan___ | paperbot better check your watermark scrubber for iop | 20:21 |
delinquentme | I know they've got nice repeaters ... b ut then I've also seen some research operation come up with a focused router with a range in the KMs | 20:22 |
kanzure | jonathan___: add an issue, https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia/issues | 20:22 |
Juul | haha | 20:22 |
kanzure | oh IOP is here https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia/issues/3 | 20:22 |
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jonathan___ | paperbot http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdfplus/10.1021/ac0498516 | 20:24 |
paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/c80af75a4035b9369c125f0de55b79d5.pdf | 20:24 |
jonathan___ | geez the electronic circuit in that paper is like 1985 design and the paper was published 2004.. | 20:26 |
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jonathan___ | paperbot http://jap.physiology.org/content/40/4/625.full.pdf+html | 20:51 |
paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Evaluation%20of%20a%20dual-function%20pH%20and%20PCO2%20in%20vivo%20sensor.pdf | 20:51 |
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jonathan___ | another watermark error | 20:54 |
brownies | yeah gait recognition is totally valid | 20:54 |
kanzure | are you imitating gradstudentbot? | 20:56 |
gradstudentbot | Grant submitted. | 20:56 |
brownies | no, just commenting on something mildly interesting | 20:58 |
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jonathan_ | I bet they didn't include yoga students in the study | 21:26 |
jonathan_ | or crossfit athletes either | 21:27 |
jonathan_ | paperbot you could use an upgrade to make a dissertationbot | 21:31 |
brownies | why? do they all walk the same way? | 21:31 |
kanzure | i doubt it. hips aren't that normalized. | 21:32 |
jrayhawk | when the only permissable way to step forward is in the process of doing a clean and jerk | 21:32 |
jonathan_ | paperbot http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdfplus/10.1021/nn401757w | 21:34 |
paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/6d1aa7e3c9b88dc6d21b90f224eaf56e.pdf | 21:34 |
jonathan_ | those hobbies might change gait that's why | 21:35 |
jonathan_ | they change posture quite a bit | 21:35 |
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jonathan_ | especially of weird hacker dudes with strange physical body quirks | 21:36 |
kanzure | accelerometer tracking is sorta useless anyway since you already have wifi fingerprinting | 21:37 |
brownies | and, you know, since they're probably logged in to half a dozen services on their phone. | 21:37 |
jonathan_ | and if your phone is turned on the nsa is monitoring every move anyway | 21:37 |
jonathan_ | those nsa guys, they're a really bored bunch aint they | 21:38 |
kanzure | counterstalk the nsa | 21:38 |
kanzure | did i say that outloud? | 21:39 |
jonathan_ | ha, follow a bunch of uber square white guys with no sex life? how boring | 21:40 |
jonathan_ | lets see, to get into nsa you need top secret clearance | 21:40 |
jonathan_ | which basically means: you've never done anything fun in your life period | 21:40 |
jonathan_ | then group all those guys together with the same square culture | 21:41 |
jonathan_ | tho I could be rong | 21:41 |
jonathan_ | *wrong | 21:42 |
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jonathan_ | according to the game shop nearby there are a ton of square military dudes who are into pathfinder.... because they aren't allowed to have any vices | 21:42 |
jonathan_ | maybe that's why they went after steve jackson, they were just jealous. lol | 21:43 |
jonathan_ | really things will change once a bunch of congressmen/women get tracked when they don't want. then overnight the laws will be passed prohibiting it. | 21:45 |
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jonathan_ | google glass is freakin creepy | 21:46 |
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jrayhawk | with the exponential economization of sensors, computation, storage, and bandwidth, global panopticon is an inevitability | 21:51 |
jonathan_ | only if you buy into it | 21:52 |
jrayhawk | this is like refusing to "buy into" computers | 21:52 |
jrayhawk | or general automation | 21:53 |
delinquentme | Why parameter sensitivity matters | 21:53 |
jrayhawk | you're still going to be victimized, you just get to feel more morally superior while doing it while having less actual power | 21:54 |
delinquentme | http://proteas.microlab.ntua.gr/ksiop/phd_funny/research_in_progress__funny/Why%20parameter%20sensitivity%20matters.gif | 21:54 |
kanzure | what's wrong with your own wearable? | 21:54 |
kanzure | if you wipe the software or build your own, i don't see the problem | 21:55 |
gradstudentbot | We were out of the right dye, so I just used an equivalent. | 21:55 |
jonathan_ | there are still people who never get fingerprinted or drivers license and get fake bank accounts. sure they'll get facial recognition but there wont be any lookup. | 21:55 |
jonathan_ | I dont have a cell phone, most people dont believe me when I say so | 21:55 |
jonathan_ | requires putting up with the inconvenience | 21:56 |
kanzure | yeah, i wouldn't believe that. you don't even have a junker you test software on? | 21:56 |
jonathan_ | I have a 1st gen iphone which was never activated and previously used a pay-as-you-go SIM with no id cash only, but have not used that SIM in years now, phone is always in airplane mode but typically I never bring it with me anyway | 21:57 |
jonathan_ | if I join a free wifi network with it then of course it could be identified and traced back based on browsing history I suppose | 21:59 |
kanzure | see! you do have one. god damn it. | 22:00 |
jonathan_ | I dont carry it, havent in years | 22:00 |
jonathan_ | last time I used it was on a biz trip to vegas, like 3 years ago | 22:01 |
jonathan_ | it is getting tougher to not carry a phone | 22:01 |
jrayhawk | 'it's the rationalization that allows you to blow a guy you can't stand, "I hate him but I'm going to make him cum so hard he'll just want more of me, which will be his punishment." Let that analogy sink in for a moment. From his perspective, not only did he still get blown, he liked it even more. In this analogy, the guy is [social empowerment] and you're not.' | 22:02 |
yashgaroth | uh | 22:02 |
kanzure | i agree with yashgaroth | 22:02 |
jonathan_ | for example, if you cross the canadian border not at a normal gate, you are supposed to "call ahead" to tell the visa office. which assumes there's a phone somewhere... | 22:02 |
jonathan_ | j, read "Why Women Have Sex - Understanding Sexual Motivations from Adventure to Revenge" | 22:03 |
jonathan_ | written by 2 ph d's of course | 22:04 |
jonathan_ | wow, that post about the GMO study is sad. how many years and no valid studies? | 22:19 |
kanzure | it's a shame that all the anti-GMO sentiments in europe aren't focused on the actual problems with monsanto | 22:21 |
kanzure | paperbot: http://ki.se/ki/jsp/polopoly.jsp?l=en&d=130&a=164761&newsdep=130 | 22:24 |
paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/377f0d751e0677a2617feb81634761c9.txt | 22:24 |
kanzure | .title | 22:24 |
yoleaux | kanzure: Sorry, that doesn't appear to be an HTML page. | 22:24 |
kanzure | .title http://ki.se/ki/jsp/polopoly.jsp?l=en&d=130&a=164761&newsdep=130 | 22:24 |
yoleaux | New method of mass-producing high-quality DNA - Startpage - Karolinska Institutet | 22:24 |
kanzure | paperbot: http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/vaop/ncurrent/abs/nmeth.2503.html | 22:25 |
paperbot | HTTP 401 unauthorized http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/vaop/ncurrent/pdf/nmeth.2503.pdf | 22:25 |
kanzure | blergh | 22:25 |
gradstudentbot | I think I'll be done in 6 years. | 22:25 |
kanzure | "We amplified oligonucleotides from clonal templates derived from single bacterial colonies and then digested cutter hairpins in the products, which released pools of oligonucleotides with precisely controlled relative stoichiometric ratios. We prepared 14–378-nucleotide MOSIC oligonucleotides either by in vitro rolling-circle amplification or by amplification of phagemid DNA in Escherichia coli. Analyses of the formation of a DNA crystal ... | 22:25 |
kanzure | ... and folding of DNA nanostructures confirmed the scalability, purity and stoichiometry of the produced oligonucleotides." | 22:25 |
jonathan_ | paperbot try something exotic for a change http://www.ajevonline.org/content/46/2/274.abstract | 22:45 |
jonathan_ | paperbot http://www.ajevonline.org/content/46/2/274.full.pdf+html | 22:46 |
paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/2b7afd156a222050d24ce7c78c4ac99d.txt | 22:46 |
jonathan_ | paperbot obviously you dont drink much. <strong xmlns="">This item requires a subscription to American Journal of Enology and Viticulture. </strong> | 22:46 |
brownies | is gradstudentbot on a timer or what? | 22:48 |
gradstudentbot | I feel like you don't completely comprehend the scope of this work. | 22:48 |
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kanzure | brownies: no | 23:03 |
kanzure | gradstudentbot: work on that article? | 23:06 |
gradstudentbot | I need to read that paper soon. | 23:06 |
kanzure | gradstudentbot: | 23:06 |
gradstudentbot | I am writing the abstract. | 23:06 |
jonathan_ | paperbot I feel like our relationship has grown stronger in the past few hours yet now I must leave you. don't be lonely without me. | 23:08 |
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brownies | kanzure: are you sure? sometimes he just says things unprovoked | 23:26 |
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abetusk | kanzure, any references on treating business like a democracy? Any templates? | 23:37 |
abetusk | maybe I should try #startups | 23:38 |
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