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heath | kanzure: didn't you previously have a pitch at ycombinator but the group you were with voted to push something else? | 03:22 |
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heath | what was that idea? | 03:22 |
gradstudentbot | Sorry for wasting your time. | 03:24 |
heath | for some reason i thought it had something to do with oligo synthesis | 03:32 |
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archels | if os.path.isfile(rotationFilePath): print('It appear as though there exist a file %s already' % rotationFilePath) print('I don\'t know what to do with all of this...') print('It\'s soo depressive....') | 05:13 |
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archels | .title http://www.neuromorpho.org | 05:21 |
yoleaux | archels: Sorry, that command (.title) took too long to process. | 05:21 |
archels | down. great | 05:21 |
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archels | and springer is timing out on PDFs. | 05:48 |
archels | WHO BROKE THE INTERNET? | 05:48 |
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rigel | oh | 06:25 |
rigel | i just noticed that kanzure is in the channel i'm asking questions in | 06:26 |
rigel | maybe you can help me out there pally | 06:26 |
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archels | and all of somafm seems to be down. the internet really is broken | 06:47 |
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kanzure | rigel: the only other channel i see you in is #noisebridge and i don't see any questions | 07:58 |
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rigel | kanzure: OFTC #mitmproxy | 08:07 |
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kanzure | "First Clarification: The safety committee doesn't want the lure of potential funding from projects to bias how they decide on the safety and policy issues related to those projects. The potential for revenue from projects like the Glowing Plant Project should not influence what kind of activities are acceptable or not within the lab. " | 08:19 |
kanzure | "Second Clarification: I think there was some sense that the Safety Committee was creating regulations that were not directly related to laboratory safety. I think it's important to discuss and identify where the boundaries of lab safety are and where we're dealing with something else entirely. It was questioned whether the release of GMOs to the public is a laboratory safety issue or a policy concern that should be discussed more generally ... | 08:19 |
kanzure | ... by members--especially since the release of the seeds doesn't seem to be violating any legal regulations." | 08:20 |
fenn | i'm sure they will just blow that off by creating an "ethics committee" | 08:22 |
kanzure | approved! thanks fenn. | 08:23 |
kanzure | The Fenn Lipkowitz Commemorative Ethics Committee | 08:23 |
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kanzure | edward snowden's girlfriend is a transhumanist: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/06/11/article-2339202-1A403DD1000005DC-977_640x629.jpg | 08:25 |
kanzure | see http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2341691 | 08:25 |
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kanzure | rigel: ok i typed some answers | 08:28 |
fenn | or it was just a book that happened to be around | 08:31 |
kanzure | maybe ed had it | 08:31 |
kanzure | tech people like to pretend to read, right? | 08:32 |
kanzure | i know i do.. | 08:32 |
fenn | i'm pretending to read your answers but actually i'm looking at "butt implant" pictures in the daily mail article | 08:33 |
kanzure | oh right, you should avoid that site at all costs | 08:33 |
kanzure | pervailing wisdom is that they are wrong literally all the time | 08:33 |
fenn | i wonder how much truth is in this sentence: " the so-called 'toxic tush' nurse allegedly injected patients with Fix-A-Flat and Super Glue" | 08:34 |
JayDugger | No doubt some one made that allegation. Past that...I have doubts. | 08:35 |
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kanzure | heath: i have pitched to ycombinator about a number of ideas. but the dna synthesis pitch was to singularity university. | 08:38 |
kanzure | minimus: hello | 08:39 |
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kanzure | "That cracked me up. Is Assange expected to die in that embassy? | 09:29 |
kanzure | "At the moment, yes. His only other options are:.. " | 09:29 |
kanzure | "1. Get from the building to a diplomatically immune car and out of the EU. Not going to happen: the fuzz will snag him the moment he steps out of the door." | 09:29 |
kanzure | ... | 09:29 |
kanzure | "4. Hope that Kurzweil was right, upload his conscious mind to a machine with OpenSSH and SCP himself overseas." | 09:29 |
kanzure | where was that article about identify people based on their phone's clock drift? | 09:33 |
kanzure | hah someone did deep packet inspection for advertising http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NebuAd | 09:37 |
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kanzure | damn i wish i knew about this one earlier http://loopj.com/android-async-http/ | 09:41 |
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kanzure | oh brother.. "Hi Bryan, My name is John Anyrecruiter, and I'm an associate at Schrödinger, an international life science research and development company funded in part by Bill Gates. Looking at your programming skill set, I thought you might be interested to know that Schrödinger is currently building something that's going to revolutionize the drug discovery process. To do this, our engineers need more front-end experts who are proficient ... | 09:51 |
kanzure | ... in languages like JavaScript, Python, and PHP." | 09:51 |
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brownies | "frontend" | 09:59 |
brownies | "PHP" | 09:59 |
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rigel | "we are going to revolutionize the drug diiscovery process through PR | 10:30 |
chris_99 | maybe they're implementing revolutionary machine learning algorithms in PHP ;) | 10:47 |
heath | kanzure: maybe it was dna synthesis and the group rejected it | 10:59 |
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kanzure | what group? | 11:08 |
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ParahSailin | does ecuador not have any helicopters? | 11:37 |
ParahSailin | maybe we should do a kickstarter to help the ecuadorian government out with extraction | 11:37 |
ParahSailin | ah "Insiders say it would be impossible for Ecuador to spirit Assange off the roof of the embassy. It is located on the first floor of the building, which is shared with the Colombian embassy. | 11:40 |
ParahSailin | In order to reach the roof, Assange would have to use the stairs or the lift and that would involve setting foot in the communal areas of the building which are not classified as sovereign Ecuadorian territory. | 11:41 |
ParahSailin | Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2189558/Julian-Assange-fiasco-Six-ways-spring-troublesome-fugitive-like-Assange-embassy.html#ixzz2WDXikzHB | 11:41 |
ParahSailin | sorry, i did not add tmnt.com to /etc/hosts | 11:41 |
kanzure | what about the windows? | 11:43 |
kanzure | he can zipline into a helicopter | 11:43 |
kanzure | .. from the first floor. | 11:44 |
ParahSailin | im not sure if the ecuadorians have good enough special forces to do something like that | 11:45 |
heath | http://opensourcenano.net/ never went anywhere after the publication :| | 11:45 |
kanzure | why is it ecuador that would have to do that? | 11:45 |
kanzure | why not an EFF helicopter or something | 11:45 |
ParahSailin | all the more reason for a kickstarter | 11:45 |
kanzure | i'm pretty sure an EFF helicopter would go over pretty well on kickstarter | 11:46 |
ParahSailin | raise a couple million to do an extraordinary extraction operation in cooperation with ecuadorian government and EFF | 11:46 |
ParahSailin | and make it into a thrilling documentary at the same time | 11:46 |
kanzure | there can even be a decoy helicopter | 11:46 |
kanzure | there's no way that extraction would cost a million bucks | 11:46 |
ParahSailin | they need to get airspace permissions from the uk somehow | 11:47 |
kanzure | all we have to do is find some hotshot military people who think they can plan this. of course, most military people hate him, so that might not work in your favor. | 11:47 |
ParahSailin | and then you need some sort of boat | 11:48 |
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heath | https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=CBjoWMA5d84#t=104s :: 85lb hard drive, 10MB storage space | 12:19 |
heath | ..and its breakdown | 12:19 |
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kanzure | paperbot: http://www.jove.com/video/2744/electrode-positioning-and-montage-in-transcranial-direct-current-stimulation | 12:57 |
paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Electrode%20Positioning%20and%20Montage%20in%20Transcranial%20Direct%20Current%20Stimulation.pdf | 12:57 |
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delinquentme | http://jsfiddle.net/t3Ary/2/ << DIS | 13:44 |
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delinquentme | kanzure, | 13:58 |
kanzure | yes? | 13:58 |
delinquentme | :D you wanna halp me with this | 13:58 |
delinquentme | that above code is a bit confusing ... i dont undersand why the .id usage | 13:58 |
delinquentme | this is to get all items which belong in both arrays | 13:58 |
kanzure | because "id" is the name of the attribute | 13:59 |
kanzure | they could have named that key something else, but whatever. | 14:01 |
gradstudentbot | The grant got rejected. | 14:03 |
delinquentme | hahah | 14:06 |
delinquentme | kanzure, tanks! | 14:06 |
delinquentme | when you cming to sf? | 14:06 |
delinquentme | or should I come to austin :D? | 14:06 |
delinquentme | thoughts on using commercial EWOD for a liquid handler | 14:06 |
delinquentme | I know someone who has hella small heating elements which we could talk them into installing :D | 14:06 |
kanzure | i will be in san jose from monday until july 3 | 14:08 |
delinquentme | @_@ | 14:12 |
delinquentme | DUDE im glad I asked! | 14:12 |
delinquentme | Ill totally trip to SJ | 14:12 |
delinquentme | whatchoo doing down yonder? | 14:12 |
delinquentme | theres a bio meetup im headed to monday night | 14:12 |
kanzure | money things | 14:12 |
delinquentme | haha | 14:12 |
delinquentme | you wanna hack it up a bit?? | 14:13 |
kanzure | what does that mean? | 14:13 |
delinquentme | hangout and program? | 14:13 |
delinquentme | coffee shop or house or whatevs | 14:13 |
delinquentme | talk about world domination | 14:13 |
gradstudentbot | Can I get Saturday off? | 14:16 |
kanzure | ok yes we can hang | 14:18 |
delinquentme | hahah | 14:20 |
delinquentme | you have my number right?? | 14:20 |
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kanzure | yes i have your number | 14:28 |
delinquentme | COOOOOOOLL! | 14:29 |
delinquentme | im excited | 14:29 |
delinquentme | monday afternoon is crap but any other days I'm totes flexible | 14:29 |
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delinquentme | kanzure, were gonna have 2045.0 | 14:40 |
delinquentme | SJ | 14:41 |
delinquentme | Im making tshirts | 14:41 |
delinquentme | with the aint nobody got time for that | 14:41 |
delinquentme | DEATH | 14:41 |
kanzure | please don't go to that | 14:41 |
kanzure | ugh | 14:41 |
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heath | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQZUdmMaRyg | 14:56 |
heath | .title | 14:56 |
yoleaux | Programming Nanoscale Structure Using DNA-Based Information - YouTube | 14:56 |
heath | i guess it isn't appropriate for me to link to everything i find remotely related to themes in this channel | 14:59 |
heath | i haven't even watched the video yet, e.g. | 14:59 |
kanzure | we will complain if we start to hate it | 14:59 |
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nmz787_ | kanzure: i recently applied to Schrodinger, seems like they might do interesting things | 16:14 |
delinquentme | ^ | 16:32 |
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kanzure | "There was some strong support expressed by various members for the Glowing Plant project, who want to see the project happen at BioCurious , and some who think that contributions from Glowing Plant to BioCurious would solve the revenue shortfall. (It won't -- it's not sustainable.) Some people thought that Glowing Plant was already contributing to BioCurious or had offered some substantial sum of money to BioCurious. This also isn't the ... | 16:35 |
heath | kanzure: re: which group, i was just talking about your business idea for ycombinator that your team/group decided not to go with | 16:35 |
kanzure | ... case. I believe that currently, Glowing Plant Inc has paid for Kyle's membership for the last month or two, and that's it." | 16:35 |
kanzure | " | 16:35 |
kanzure | I strongly expressed my belief that it is entirely inappropriate for BioCurious to be taking or soliciting money from an entity that has a controversial safety or policy issue under consideration. Some folks (especially at the meeting) are outraged that there's any doubt Glowing Plant Inc could do their research at BioCurious, although it's clearly against the current safety rules. Other folks are outraged that we are considering changes to ... | 16:35 |
kanzure | ... the rules to allow them to work at BioCurious, or would consider environmental release of GMOs. It's polarized the community. " | 16:35 |
kanzure | heath: there have been so many projects that i have decided to not run past ycombinator that it's not funny | 16:35 |
heath | yo yo people! how's it going this fine evening? | 16:35 |
* heath is douching it currently | 16:36 | |
delinquentme | .... who the hell at biocurious is anti GMO? | 16:36 |
delinquentme | are they tarded? | 16:36 |
heath | any of you ever just lost yourself in IRC after consuming some type of psycoactive drug? | 16:36 |
kanzure | "On a quick personal note -- we're going to have a community discussion about the safety and policy ramifications of possibly hosting Glowing Plant. This is not the last project like this we're going to see, and it needs to be handled right. And it will be -- carefully, *civilly*, intelligently, and with due consideration given to *all* points of view. I may not be the smartest person at BioCurious, or the most handsome, or the one with the ... | 16:36 |
kanzure | ... deepest pockets, but I *am*, provably and genetically, the very most stubborn. Fanatics make me dig in my heels. I don't care whether its the damn-the-consequences-let's-splice-some-genes-what's-an-Asilomar? crowd or the ETC Group and FOE -- who are all invited, by the way -- but the order of business at that discussion will be risks versus rewards, best practices, consequences on a scale of likely-to-possible, liability, and freedom to ... | 16:36 |
kanzure | ... operate. Not dogfights. And not impassioned speeches. Except, of course, for mine. " | 16:37 |
heath | cause that's what's happening right now | 16:37 |
kanzure | inviting ETC is a mistake | 16:37 |
heath | <-- right here | 16:37 |
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gradstudentbot | Nobody has tried this before. | 16:39 |
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heath | [18:36:19] <delinquentme> .... who the hell at biocurious is anti GMO? | 16:40 |
delinquentme | heath y? | 16:41 |
kanzure | it's not anti GMO, it's "anti environmental release" | 16:41 |
kanzure | because they are worried that if biocurious releases organisms to the environment, that the policesters will strike biocurious down | 16:41 |
delinquentme | you're throwing government at it | 16:41 |
delinquentme | you need a better solution | 16:41 |
kanzure | no i am not, i am explaining the situation | 16:41 |
delinquentme | governance does not scale | 16:41 |
heath | delinquentme: it's a statement i agree with, it makes no sense | 16:41 |
delinquentme | ohhhh that th | 16:42 |
kanzure | meh "However, intentional release - whether it's bringing a new drug or a new GMO crop to market, or bacterial geoengineering, falls well outside the scope of a laboratory safety manual. That becomes a regulatory issue, where you'll have to talk to the federal safekeepers of human and environmental health - and those will have their own safety requirements. We can choose to be *more* safe than what the federal regulations require, and the ... | 16:51 |
kanzure | ... Glowing Pant project has done an excellent job at that. Or we can choose not to do any of this at all, regardless of safety. Just like we could choose not to do DIYbio at all. But those are policy decisions, which I would hope the wider BioCurious membership has a say in as well." | 16:51 |
kanzure | whatever. it's some seeds/plants. big deal. | 16:51 |
kanzure | "There is something wrong when the Supreme Court overturns something unanimously 9-0 that has been going on in the lower courts for almost 30 years. Isn't the law rather clear, as evidenced by the unanimous ruling? So why have the patent office and lower courts been doing something different all this time?" | 16:53 |
kanzure | "As the lawyers successfully argued, you can't patent a tree you find in your yard, and you can't cut a branch off it and patent that (for any use at all). "Use of an oak tree branch for any purpose, USPTO xxxxxxxxx" Wouldn't that be a nice patent to own? Or to put it on the logical chopping block, if I can't patent a new species of beetle I discover, or a leg of that beetle, or a cell of that beetle, then why on Earth would anybody think ... | 16:53 |
kanzure | ... they should be entitled to patent a piece of that beetle's DNA?" | 16:53 |
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heath | https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jPvH8j2UGFs#t=69s | 21:16 |
heath | a jellyfish | 21:17 |
kanzure | .title | 21:22 |
yoleaux | UNDERWATER DVD VIDEO - Just jellyfish - YouTube | 21:22 |
gradstudentbot | I am writing the abstract. | 21:23 |
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JayDugger | http://spectrum.ieee.org/geek-life/profiles/steve-mann-my-augmediated-life# | 23:16 |
JayDugger | Steve Mann on Google Glass and his own work. | 23:17 |
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