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| kanzure | "I saw your comments about http://sci-hub.org/ site. I used this site before but there is a problem now. When I request an article or DOI, that site show me a donate page. How can I access my scientific articles. Do you know some other sites like that." | 06:57 |
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| kanzure | new redirect is to http://boxuesky.com/ | 06:58 |
| kanzure | http://boxuesky.com/forum-508-1.html | 06:58 |
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| kanzure | haha they are charging $150-$600 for the passwords, http://boxuesky.com/thread-105248-1-1.html | 06:59 |
| gradstudentbot | She keeps talking about her Nature paper, but she was only third author. | 06:59 |
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| chris_99 | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1677943140/send-your-own-pocket-spacecraft-on-a-mission-to-th | 08:25 |
| kanzure | hasn't kickstarter been discredited by now, as a place that one shouldn't link to, or something | 08:27 |
| chris_99 | has it? | 08:28 |
| kanzure | most of the projects are boring and have little upside to literally everyone except the project owners | 08:29 |
| kanzure | and even if you get your fancypants one-off plastic piece of junk, the project owner still benefits disproportionately | 08:30 |
| gradstudentbot | Yeah, it's the new grad student's fault. | 08:32 |
| chris_99 | hmm i see what you mean | 08:34 |
| ThomasEgi | yet another fill-space-with-litter project? | 08:39 |
| chris_99 | fill-the-moon-with-rubbish ;) | 08:40 |
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| streety | how is disproportionate benefit calculated? | 10:01 |
| Guest62567 | 10.1177/01461672992512006 | 10:06 |
| Guest62567 | doi://10.1177/01461672992512006 | 10:07 |
| Guest62567 | doi:10.1177/01461672992512006 | 10:07 |
| Guest62567 | @paperbot doi:10.1177/01461672992512006 | 10:07 |
| Guest62567 | paperbot http://psp.sagepub.com/content/25/9/1126.full.pdf | 10:08 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/4691c9a16b557e8070591f7bbb645423.pdf | 10:08 |
| Guest62567 | http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23209153 | 10:10 |
| Guest62567 | sorry just testing paperbot | 10:10 |
| Guest62567 | paperbot http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23209153 | 10:10 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/addfea1ade7b8115e367f1ee01c15f2f.txt | 10:10 |
| Guest62567 | paperbot doi:10.1101/cshperspect.a011528. | 10:11 |
| Guest62567 | paperbot http://dx.doi.org/10.1101/cshperspect.a011528. | 10:12 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/ba55cc39331d3d37d36c135ba23acef9.txt | 10:12 |
| Guest62567 | paperbot http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0015028213006158 | 10:12 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/A%20call%20for%20institutional%20policies%20on%20postmortem%20sperm%20retrieval%20.txt | 10:12 |
| Guest62567 | paperbot http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=MiamiImageURL&_cid=271326&_user=125795&_pii=S0015028213006158&_check=y&_origin=article&_zone=toolbar&_coverDate=04-Jun-2013&view=c&originContentFamily=serial&wchp=dGLbVBA-zSkzk&md5=dcd2cf57732d6f939dbe8d6b714daf04&pid=1-s2.0-S0015028213006158-main.pdf | 10:14 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/5d24f834be2583ff6d8f5e2ff4bd1df3.txt | 10:14 |
| Guest62567 | paperbot http://ac.els-cdn.com/S0015028213006158/1-s2.0-S0015028213006158-main.pdf | 10:15 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/c1d2d35cdd9e46bf6a4cb41e7ce6490f.txt | 10:15 |
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| skyLotus | Is there a directory of papers that paperbot has collected somewhere? | 15:24 |
| skyLotus | !paperbot | 15:25 |
| chris_99 | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/ | 15:25 |
| skyLotus | oh awesome, going to look through some of them | 15:26 |
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| kanzure | skyLotus: yes? | 18:33 |
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| jonathan__ | hm, electronic cigarettes are usb charged. | 19:44 |
| jonathan__ | if they're plugging into usb then why not upload some data too? | 19:45 |
| yashgaroth | some of them do | 19:45 |
| gradstudentbot | How many papers do you have published? | 19:45 |
| yashgaroth | well at least one of them, http://www.joyetech.com/product/eVic.php | 19:46 |
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| jonathan__ | "Authorities in the Colombian capital Bogota are asking teenagers to look after robotic babies, to help them understand what it takes to be a parent. " | 21:17 |
| jonathan__ | great, robot zombie babies | 21:17 |
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| delinquentme | immunological self-tolerance | 21:20 |
| Adifex | They've done that before in the U.S, I remember hearing about people carrying around dolls | 21:20 |
| delinquentme | this is where cells can self-recognize and not ... immuno destroy | 21:20 |
| jonathan__ | often kids carry around raw eggs. I guess this means eggs are more expensive than robot dolls. | 21:23 |
| jonathan__ | and, let's make sure everyone in civilized countries are discouraged from having kids. | 21:23 |
| Adifex | China's working-age population began shrinking last year | 21:24 |
| Adifex | Life expectancy has increased by 30 years in the last 50 | 21:24 |
| jonathan__ | paperbot http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00292648#page-1 | 21:25 |
| Adifex | The one-child policy is apparently being quietly phased out | 21:25 |
| paperbot | error: HTTP 500 http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Is%20happiness%20relative%3F.pdf | 21:25 |
| jonathan__ | gads | 21:25 |
| jonathan__ | paperbot http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF00574620?LI=true | 21:26 |
| paperbot | error: HTTP 500 http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/New%20publications.pdf | 21:26 |
| jonathan__ | paperbot http://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1010072010360#page-1 | 21:27 |
| paperbot | error: HTTP 500 http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/The%20Four%20Qualities%20of%20Life.pdf | 21:27 |
| Adifex | The last place that might need a bit of population control is africa, everywhere else is already getting too old | 21:27 |
| Adifex | And in africa population control can simply be acheived by increasing the survivability of the babies, so people have less | 21:27 |
| Adifex | vaccines, etc. | 21:27 |
| Adifex | Then things should stabilize | 21:27 |
| jonathan__ | paperbot http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF01078732#page-1 | 21:27 |
| paperbot | error: HTTP 500 http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Is%20happiness%20a%20trait%3F.pdf | 21:28 |
| jonathan__ | there is no need for population control | 21:28 |
| jonathan__ | there is no lack of resources in the world. only lack of efficient distribution. | 21:28 |
| jonathan__ | if there were a lack of resources the world would not be growing corn only to turn it into fuel instead of food. | 21:28 |
| jonathan__ | there's no lack of real estate either. texas is mostly empty for example. | 21:29 |
| Adifex | You're right - in the case of africa, there isn't a need for fewer babies as much as there's a need to get the life expectancy up. | 21:29 |
| jonathan__ | just give out free condoms. really it is a ploy to discourage having sex. | 21:29 |
| jonathan__ | have a training class where everyone is given condoms and told to go have sex with them. | 21:30 |
| jonathan__ | problem solved. | 21:30 |
| jonathan__ | affluence naturally reduces number & habit of conceiving so they say | 21:30 |
| jonathan__ | it's quite a bizarre message isn't it? "stay in school don't have kids" well wouldn't it be better to have kids young when the eggs are fresh? | 21:31 |
| jonathan__ | instead of pressuring women to wait until they're 42 yo and on the brink of odd medical-pregnancy problems? | 21:32 |
| gradstudentbot | Why did I go to grad school? | 21:32 |
| Adifex | autism incidence increases, as do other things. | 21:32 |
| Adifex | You just have to take your savants with your older mothers I guess :D | 21:33 |
| jonathan__ | gradstudentbot, you went to grad school in order to meet girls. | 21:33 |
| gradstudentbot | I lost my pipette. | 21:33 |
| jonathan__ | how come autism has supposedly increased over time? or has it? | 21:33 |
| jonathan__ | paperbot http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF01078732#page-1 | 21:34 |
| paperbot | error: HTTP 500 http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Is%20happiness%20a%20trait%3F.pdf | 21:34 |
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| kanzure | jonathan__: i don't see why more women aren't saving eggs when young | 21:35 |
| kanzure | surrogacy is a wonderful tool as it is | 21:36 |
| jonathan__ | that paper isn't correct... grabbed the wrong link? | 21:36 |
| jonathan__ | I suggested to some women in my younger years that they should save eggs .... lets just say that this was not a good topic of discussion. | 21:37 |
| jonathan__ | the 3-way IVF could be an interesting twist | 21:38 |
| jonathan__ | "too old? too grey? don't worry, let us do a clinical 3-way on you with some young stud!" | 21:38 |
| jonathan__ | I dunno if you know any mormons but they stuff they believe is truly *wacko* master-race type stuff | 21:39 |
| Adifex | Two heterosexual parents: the classic way to do things. Two gay parents: the new way to do things. Three parents? hm... | 21:39 |
| gradstudentbot | The gel is streaking. | 21:39 |
| jonathan__ | I am undecided if two same-sex parents are a good or bad thing. | 21:39 |
| jonathan__ | mostly I think it is bad. | 21:40 |
| kanzure | jonathan__: yeah, that particular topic of conversation didn't invoke hostile comments from them, but they looked at me like i was spekaing of incomprehensible magic | 21:40 |
| yashgaroth | why | 21:40 |
| kanzure | jonathan__: "why would that situation ever possibly apply to me??" | 21:40 |
| jonathan__ | there is already a horrible process of forming role models for kids today. let's take boys as an example. can't see a good strong role model in fathers already. and now they're going to have 2 mothers? Cant be good. | 21:41 |
| kanzure | takes a village, etc | 21:41 |
| crw | ^ | 21:41 |
| jonathan__ | yes exactly, it takes a village | 21:41 |
| kanzure | insert additional platitudes here | 21:42 |
| kanzure | anecdotal argumentation: begin! | 21:42 |
| crw | figure until there are no more orphans, probably good to have extra couples around that can't procreate on their own | 21:42 |
| jonathan__ | so the same sex thing is just prolonging the bizarre nuclear structure again | 21:42 |
| yashgaroth | secret supersoldier programs always need more orphans | 21:43 |
| crw | meh, they can make-do with clones | 21:43 |
| jonathan__ | there are plenty of parents looking for adoptees | 21:43 |
| kanzure | jonathan__: yes, it is bizarre that lgbt propogate the nuclear family concept, even though they are supposed to be into alternatives | 21:43 |
| kanzure | jonathan__: but, people are allowed to be hypocrites in their relationship structures | 21:43 |
| kanzure | oh god i have become an apologist | 21:44 |
| kanzure | something is worng. i should sleep. | 21:44 |
| kanzure | *wrong | 21:45 |
| jonathan__ | paperbot http://repub.eur.nl/res/pub/7199/ | 21:45 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Is%20life%20getting%20better%3F%20%3A%20how%20long%20and%20happy%20people%20live%20in%20modern%20society.pdf | 21:45 |
| crw | it's still early in societal acceptance of lgbt couples, keeping nuclear is just practical | 21:46 |
| kanzure | huh? | 21:46 |
| kanzure | why should i enforce nuclear structures on other people? | 21:46 |
| kanzure | also, off-topic politics should be ban/kick-worthy but i am too tired to care. bad politics is always kickworthy. i'll leave it up to one of the other ops. | 21:47 |
| jonathan__ | this journal makes me question my career path http://www.springer.com/social+sciences/wellbeing+%26+quality-of-life/journal/10902 | 21:47 |
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| crw | not saying you should, just offering a potential explanation for those who make that choice | 21:47 |
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| jonathan__ | send them to australia like they used to do with prisoners back in the day! | 21:48 |
| Adifex | Australia could use more thunder down under, you're right | 21:48 |
| jonathan__ | what the world needs is a biobrick for happiness eh http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11136-010-9652-2#page-1 | 21:49 |
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| jonathan__ | paperbot http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10519-009-9287-7 | 21:53 |
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| jonathan__ | "heritability of 25% for optimism in a study of 500 twin pairs. " | 21:57 |
| jonathan__ | gradstudentbot are you optomistic? | 21:57 |
| gradstudentbot | I think I'd like to try to write the paper myself. | 21:57 |
| @yashgaroth | man gradstudentbot is perfect sometimes | 21:57 |
| gradstudentbot | People have tried that, but it doesn't seem to work. | 21:58 |
| jonathan__ | HA | 21:58 |
| jonathan__ | this prof's entire job is researching how to be happy. how sad. | 21:59 |
| @yashgaroth | tenure does funny things to a person | 22:00 |
| jonathan__ | "Confucianism, Buddhism and Taoism are three main classic Chinese | 22:00 |
| jonathan__ | philosophy schools, which all deal with the question of how one should live. In this | 22:00 |
| jonathan__ | paper, we first review these ancient recommendations and next consider whether | 22:00 |
| jonathan__ | they promise a happy life in present-day society." | 22:00 |
| jonathan__ | conclusion | 22:01 |
| jonathan__ | "Classic Confucianist advice appears to be the most apt for finding happiness" | 22:01 |
| jonathan__ | see, he didn't even bother to study hedonism. poor controls. | 22:02 |
| Adifex | hahaha | 22:03 |
| Adifex | Look up CCARE at Stanford, they do a lot of research with happiness | 22:03 |
| jonathan__ | "These findings suggest that people thrive well in modern society and hence we | 22:03 |
| jonathan__ | should think again before we follow Taoistic advice to turn away from civilization. " | 22:03 |
| Adifex | A whole lab. Also has some sort of association with the Dalai Lama | 22:03 |
| jonathan__ | gradstudentbot, this paper better make me happy or i'm off the project. | 22:03 |
| gradstudentbot | Yeah, but his PI wrote his dissertation. | 22:03 |
| jonathan__ | I'd never trust stanford researchers in that realm | 22:04 |
| jonathan__ | they're already a bunch of hippy tree hugging freako's | 22:04 |
| jonathan__ | democrats the lot of em | 22:04 |
| @yashgaroth | stanford's pretty straight laced, you must be thinking of berkeley | 22:04 |
| jonathan__ | "Yet at age 62, college graduates appeared to be little happier than women with some college education or those who had stopped at a high-school education " PROVEN! | 22:05 |
| jonathan__ | paperbot http://link.springer.com/article/10.1023%2FB%3AJOHS.0000005771.22194.08?LI=true#page-1 | 22:10 |
| paperbot | error: HTTP 500 http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Notions%20of%20Art-of-Living.pdf | 22:10 |
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| jonathan__ | ah, here's his hedonism paper. LOL | 22:12 |
| jonathan__ | paperbot http://link.springer.com/article/10.1023%2FB%3AJOHS.0000005719.56211.fd | 22:12 |
| paperbot | error: HTTP 500 http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Hedonism%20and%20Happiness.pdf | 22:12 |
| jonathan__ | PROVEN: smoking does not make people happy. pbbt | 22:15 |
| jonathan__ | paperbot http://psychsocgerontology.oxfordjournals.org/content/66B/6/665.full.pdf+html | 22:20 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Finding%20the%20Key%20to%20Happy%20Aging%3A%20A%20Day%20Reconstruction%20Study%20of%20Happiness.pdf | 22:20 |
| jonathan__ | paperbot, you make me happy | 22:20 |
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| alusion | http://vimeo.com/46264514 | 22:53 |
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| abetusk | has anyone seen "Plug and Pray"? | 23:17 |
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| alusion | Do any of you know Ben Goertzel | 23:33 |
| ziwbra | hi | 23:51 |
| ziwbra | what about Ben Goertzel | 23:51 |
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| alusion | I just learned that he lives in Rockville :D | 23:55 |
| * alusion watches vid about oled | 23:55 | |
| ziwbra | rockville is your town? | 23:56 |
| alusion | nope, but it's near. | 23:56 |
| ziwbra | he has a daughter who is about 10 now | 23:58 |
| alusion | high school | 23:59 |
| ziwbra | no way | 23:59 |
| ziwbra | she was 9 last time she made an appearance | 23:59 |
| alusion | 97 | 23:59 |
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