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@kanzure | ParahSail1n: it says you closed it? | 00:14 |
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ParahSail1n | reopened | 00:14 |
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@kanzure | k cool. i'm off duty. will get to this in a few hours. | 00:18 |
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@fenn | that urea factory email has 12,000 lines of 0 px css styling. i get a lot of unsolicited chinese product offers, i always figured it was some user data leak in alibaba's interface | 07:08 |
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jonathan___ | paperbot are you there | 09:27 |
jonathan___ | paperbot http://scitation.aip.org/qab_login.jsp?purchasable=true&d=1373128036310 | 09:27 |
jonathan___ | oh, poor paperbot | 09:27 |
yashgaroth | nah he's just sprinting to russia and back | 09:30 |
ParaSa1lin | no you have to tip better | 09:33 |
yashgaroth | .bottip $5 | 09:33 |
ParaSa1lin | the issue is that page you linked has no navigable path to a pdf | 09:35 |
ParaSa1lin | its a pure login page | 09:36 |
ParaSa1lin | give it the abstract page | 09:37 |
brownies | .meow | 09:39 |
yoleaux | http://moar.edgecats.net/cats/tumblr_m7xj9rIz8v1rows1to1_500.gif | 09:39 |
paperbot | TypeError: unicode() argument 2 must be string, not None (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/requests/models.py", line 825, in text) | 09:39 |
brownies | good to know the important robot functionality is still working. | 09:39 |
jonathan___ | paperbot http://tpt.aapt.org/resource/1/phteah/v38/i4/p238_s1?isAuthorized=no | 09:41 |
paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/6303c7e4b164f359ae7adce4642858a6.txt | 09:41 |
jonathan___ | nooooooooo | 09:42 |
jonathan___ | paperbot http://scitation.aip.org/getpdf/servlet/GetPDFServlet?filetype=pdf&id=PHTEAH000038000004000238000001&idtype=cvips&doi=10.1119/1.880516&prog=normal | 09:42 |
jonathan___ | poor little automation agent | 09:43 |
ParaSa1lin | that ones not gonna work until kanzure pulls recent changes | 09:43 |
jonathan___ | "Why We MUST Tell Young Women Math Is Cool .... Women account for only 20% of the Bachelor’s degrees in engineering, computer science, and physics." forbes http://www.forbes.com/sites/netapp/2013/05/10/math-is-cool/ | 09:48 |
jonathan___ | addendum: tell the cute girls repeatedly | 09:49 |
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ParaSa1lin | its because of your dogmatism against froms in import statements | 09:51 |
ParaSa1lin | i hope you're happy | 09:51 |
jonathan___ | oh yes, I am very content with myself | 09:53 |
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@kanzure | ParahSai1in: could you put back in some of paperbot's debugging output? i feel like that shouldn't have happened. | 09:56 |
@kanzure | jonathan___: 20% is way higher than i thought | 09:56 |
jonathan___ | there's a lot of girl math majors. I believe this is because it's a useless major and they pick useless topics by default. | 09:57 |
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jonathan___ | also to specifically get away from yucky engineering guys | 09:57 |
jonathan___ | max max max | 09:58 |
jonathan___ | will you be at lab on sunday | 09:59 |
delinquentme | ok soooo | 09:59 |
delinquentme | need data based awesome idea to pitch to a bunch of kids interested in hacking on humans | 09:59 |
delinquentme | what can we start working w right now? | 09:59 |
jonathan___ | define hacking | 09:59 |
jonathan___ | you can get an axe, they are good at hacking | 09:59 |
yashgaroth | yeah I'll be there tomorrow | 10:00 |
jonathan___ | the obvious answer is have them collect biometrics | 10:00 |
@kanzure | here are things i need you to do: dna synthesis, transcranial ultrasound, organ perfusion, hplc things, taq production, wearable computer, diy afm | 10:00 |
ParaSa1lin | kanzure, that error was because i dont pass the scihub cookie to download_url | 10:01 |
ParaSa1lin | i just put a commit to my repo on that | 10:01 |
jonathan___ | run the kids thru tabata drills against a control group and publish the results. | 10:01 |
jonathan___ | yashgaroth: what time | 10:02 |
yashgaroth | 1 I guess? I'm flexible | 10:02 |
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jonathan___ | I take it you don't go to noon mass at church on sundays. | 10:02 |
yashgaroth | they're doing mass on sundays now? | 10:03 |
jonathan___ | uh you know the day of rest? | 10:03 |
jonathan___ | the sabbath? | 10:03 |
yashgaroth | you mean saturday, surely | 10:03 |
jonathan___ | sabbath as in black sabbath? ozzy? | 10:04 |
ParaSa1lin | kanzure, new pull request | 10:04 |
@kanzure | kk | 10:04 |
jonathan___ | it's interesting that source collaboration still requires out-of-band communication to tell collaborators to pull and push. how come that isn't inside the system. | 10:05 |
@kanzure | it is inside the system | 10:05 |
@kanzure | he just doesn't know that | 10:05 |
jonathan___ | notifications? | 10:05 |
@kanzure | yes. it's all based on email. | 10:05 |
jonathan___ | ah see, that's out-of-band | 10:06 |
jonathan___ | git itself should do it | 10:06 |
jonathan___ | $ git notify me when changed | 10:06 |
ParaSa1lin | yeah im pretty sure it doesnt require out of band | 10:12 |
ParaSa1lin | doesnt it send emails or something whenever i sent pull request? | 10:13 |
ParaSa1lin | i guess email is technically out of band | 10:13 |
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* ParaSa1lin still has a google reader window open from before | 10:16 | |
ParaSa1lin | still works | 10:16 |
@kanzure | ParahSai1in: you can probably retrieve it from your cache | 10:16 |
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gnusha | https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=64a0ae87 U-ACORNSYS\pwang: Env variable | 10:19 |
gnusha | https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=27b25bee U-ACORNSYS\pwang: lxml etree instead of silly things | 10:19 |
gnusha | https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=d58853b9 U-ACORNSYS\pwang: delete more cruft | 10:19 |
gnusha | https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=ec225d68 U-ACORNSYS\pwang: oops, added back predicates | 10:19 |
gnusha | https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=aab9aa3f U-ACORNSYS\pwang: Better integration with download_url | 10:19 |
gnusha | https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=3fccd5df Bryan Bishop: Merge pull request #20 from rcallahan/master | 10:19 |
gnusha | paperbot: reload papers | 10:19 |
paperbot | gnusha: <module 'papers' from '/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py'> (version: 2013-07-06 17:19:09) | 10:19 |
ParaSa1lin | paperbot, http://dx.doi.org/10.1119/1.880516 | 10:20 |
paperbot | AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'defcookie' (file "/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py", line 143, in download) | 10:20 |
@kanzure | paperbot: reload papers | 10:20 |
paperbot | kanzure: <module 'papers' from '/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py'> (version: 2013-07-06 17:19:09) | 10:20 |
@kanzure | paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1119/1.880516 | 10:20 |
paperbot | AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'defcookie' (file "/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py", line 143, in download) | 10:20 |
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@kanzure | syntax error | 10:23 |
gnusha | https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=579d533e Bryan Bishop: fix syntax error in modules/scihub.py | 10:23 |
gnusha | paperbot: reload papers | 10:23 |
gnusha | https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=bc7de60a Bryan Bishop: fix an AttributeError (be less redundant) | 10:27 |
gnusha | paperbot: reload papers | 10:27 |
gnusha | https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=d990cad0 Bryan Bishop: fix typo (pheny -> phenny) | 10:28 |
gnusha | paperbot: reload papers | 10:28 |
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@kanzure | ParahSai1in: still doesn't work, though | 10:29 |
@kanzure | paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1119/1.880516 | 10:29 |
paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/a156fbffba257d05f61c01773ec0db5e.txt | 10:29 |
ParaSa1lin | paperbot, http://scitation.aip.org/getpdf/servlet/GetPDFServlet?filetype=pdf&id=PHTEAH000038000004000238000001&idtype=cvips&doi=10.1119/1.880516&prog=normal | 10:30 |
paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/c6821dc147936475bd1572efa30f5f81.pdf | 10:30 |
@kanzure | it looks like the "reload papers" command doesn't work anymore because reloading the "papers" module doesn't reload the other modules. | 10:31 |
@kanzure | i mean, specifically it doesn't reload the scihub include. | 10:32 |
@kanzure | i think a better way to architecture paperbot would be to have a core library that is another python library, and then phenny would be just a thin wrapper around it. | 10:32 |
@kanzure | so there would be a phenny command file that would just "import paperbot" and paperbot would be somewhere on the $PATH. | 10:32 |
@kanzure | i mean, the $PYTHONPATH. | 10:32 |
@kanzure | it would also be nice to see an html page generated with error reports and diagnostics about each failure, like which methods were tried and what things need to be fixed, instead of spamming ##hplusroadmap with errors and sadness. | 10:33 |
jonathan___ | there's an advertisement on page 1 of the pdf.. what? | 10:35 |
@kanzure | it seems to be a conference advertisement. i bet it's in-house. something about the journal or AIP. | 10:35 |
@kanzure | oh god look at that nasty watermark. | 10:36 |
@kanzure | but yeah, maybe we need to do ad block for science papers | 10:36 |
jonathan___ | adblock for papers wtf | 10:39 |
jonathan___ | first we pay for it with our tax dollars. then we have to pay for it again if we want to read it. then we are subject to advertisements after we paid for it twice? | 10:39 |
@kanzure | jonathan___: so, a while back i had this idea that i trashed.. the basic concept was to scrape all journals and get an index of all papers. then make a site where we estimate the tax dollars used to make each paper, based on the length of the paper, which journal, the journal's publishing fees, and how many coauthors (salaries). then make it into a tax spectacle. | 10:43 |
@kanzure | "This paper cost about $41,341. By the way, you can't read it." | 10:43 |
@kanzure | or rather, "This paper cost you $41,341. By the way, your mom is gonna die from fucking cancer." | 10:43 |
jonathan___ | yea! | 10:43 |
jonathan___ | well that's basically similar to my scripts. they retreived full indexes of all papers first. then downloaded them as a batch operation second. | 10:44 |
@kanzure | yeah, i think the index is critical | 10:44 |
@kanzure | otherwise how the hell do you know if you're complete or not | 10:44 |
jonathan___ | coauthor salaries, that's hitting hard in the gut eh | 10:44 |
@kanzure | well, on the one hand people might be surprised to learn that scientists are poor as dirt, but whatever.. | 10:45 |
jonathan___ | probably could ballpark the costs of "all combined papers" by using NIH yearly budget and assuming some % of grant is the documentation process | 10:46 |
gradstudentbot | Who the hell stole my pipette? | 10:46 |
@kanzure | sort of, but i would be more extreme than that | 10:46 |
jonathan___ | yes, drive it home | 10:46 |
@kanzure | because frankly once the projects are gone, the only thing we have are (1) somewhat trained scientists and (2) papers | 10:46 |
@kanzure | not like the animal samples are going to be kept around. you *might* get a new plasmid in a repository. | 10:46 |
jonathan___ | ..often bad papers with no data | 10:46 |
@kanzure | and it would cost 2x just to repeat it. and nobody would want to because it would kill their career. | 10:47 |
@kanzure | or at least, it would kill someone's career, either theirs if they don't manage to repeat (i.e., can't get to the point of even a negative result), or it would kill the original authors' careers a bit, etc. | 10:47 |
jonathan___ | yes and detract from finding something else "novel" | 10:48 |
@kanzure | haha | 10:48 |
jonathan___ | the quest for novelty is what kills the urge to optimize science | 10:49 |
jonathan___ | "why do we need to automate this, we only do it once" gaaah | 10:49 |
@kanzure | you can get a lot more bang-per-buck by picking better projects. | 10:49 |
delinquentme | so yeah im at this | 10:50 |
delinquentme | http://humanapisf.eventbrite.com/ | 10:50 |
paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/51663d713b71dffeed05b77c6f17e1f6.txt | 10:50 |
delinquentme | tldr they want us to dev for their api hahah | 10:50 |
delinquentme | HMMMMMM is this marketing? | 10:50 |
@kanzure | yes, this is a common hackathon scam | 10:50 |
@kanzure | a company sets up a hackathon, gets programmers to show up | 10:50 |
@kanzure | and then all projects must use their api | 10:50 |
@kanzure | and it's some boring old shit | 10:50 |
@kanzure | and by the way you probably don't own your work | 10:50 |
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delinquentme | NERTWERKING | 10:52 |
delinquentme | kanz whatchoo doin | 10:53 |
@kanzure | hiring gullible children to do my bidding for me | 10:53 |
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jonathan___ | the interesting thing about medical or health or wellness data online is that there is all this technology to get it done and at the end of the day the business guys say "yea but how do we monetize this?" | 10:58 |
jonathan___ | they say "so we could use this as a service model for recurring revenue?" | 10:58 |
jonathan___ | no dudes you could save people's lives | 10:58 |
jonathan___ | they say "so if we could get, say, $10 to $15 dollars per month for this..." | 10:59 |
jonathan___ | (facepalm) | 10:59 |
@kanzure | ParahSai1in: i think paperbot is scanning all links now. which is how http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/51663d713b71dffeed05b77c6f17e1f6.txt happened.. | 11:09 |
@kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/51663d713b71dffeed05b77c6f17e1f6.txt | 11:09 |
paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/d95dac9d40a304758f99f367735bf1c3.txt | 11:09 |
@kanzure | yeah.. | 11:09 |
@kanzure | that's not good | 11:10 |
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delinquentme | kanz. | 11:11 |
delinquentme | i feel used. | 11:11 |
delinquentme | lol | 11:11 |
@kanzure | hrm? | 11:12 |
@kanzure | oh, hackathon | 11:12 |
delinquentme | muh butt hurtsz | 11:12 |
delinquentme | you're out on the 15th?? | 11:12 |
@kanzure | huh? | 11:13 |
@kanzure | http://genofond.org/ libgen | 11:22 |
paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/189b1380d6aa46f29b630a7196ae0357.txt | 11:22 |
@kanzure | grr paperbot, go away | 11:22 |
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heath | nmz787_: you helped with j5? | 11:25 |
@kanzure | http://genofond.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6452 | 11:30 |
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@kanzure | http://alibabahost.com/100tb-offshore-servers.html | 11:35 |
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nmz787_ | heath: nah, did other stuff at jbei | 12:05 |
yashgaroth | oh hey nmz787_ yes I do check the logs for my name | 12:06 |
heath | yashgaroth == nmz787_ | 12:11 |
nmz787_ | hey | 12:12 |
nmz787_ | ok | 12:12 |
nmz787_ | yashgaroth: i don't see anything new | 12:14 |
yashgaroth | I replied about the gfp in nails yesterday if that's what you mean | 12:14 |
nmz787_ | yeah | 12:14 |
nmz787_ | no | 12:14 |
nmz787_ | never saw an article on gfp silkworms | 12:14 |
nmz787_ | gfp or caffeine could be proof-of-concept | 12:15 |
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yashgaroth | erm like synthesizing caffeine in the body? | 12:15 |
nmz787_ | but i'd be crazy if i could bite my nails and eat some high value medicine | 12:15 |
@fenn | i saw the gfp silk article (in c&e news i think) | 12:15 |
nmz787_ | yeah but just in the nail/hair, and such that it didn't leak back into the blood | 12:16 |
@fenn | they had other colors too, not just green | 12:16 |
nmz787_ | so you'd have to eat/smoke/extract it | 12:16 |
yashgaroth | synthesizing caffeine in mammalian cells in hard enough, I'm sure localizing it is trivial in comparison | 12:16 |
nmz787_ | like i said, caffeine would be proof-of-concept, i actually don't want caffeine | 12:16 |
yashgaroth | also it's got a pretty high ED50 | 12:16 |
yashgaroth | oh well it's no harder than any other small molecule not made in mammals | 12:17 |
@fenn | why bother making caffeine? there's plenty of it already | 12:17 |
nmz787_ | anyway, gfp would be a fine proof | 12:17 |
nmz787_ | fenn: right | 12:17 |
nmz787_ | fenn: was an example that i thought wouldn't cause much stir | 12:17 |
nmz787_ | i was wrong :( | 12:17 |
nmz787_ | i actually want them to make mind-bending drugs | 12:17 |
nmz787_ | left hand meth, right hand diazapam | 12:18 |
@fenn | bromo dragonfly | 12:18 |
nmz787_ | morning and night hand | 12:18 |
yashgaroth | you could do DMT that's about it really | 12:18 |
nmz787_ | that could come from my ear hair cells | 12:18 |
nmz787_ | yashgaroth: yeah | 12:18 |
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nmz787_ | yashgaroth: that's simple | 12:18 |
@fenn | DMT is also already commonly available | 12:19 |
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nmz787_ | i cut my hair/beard and think that if only it was a high-value drug, it would be worth something | 12:19 |
@fenn | btw what are we talking about? why mammalian cells? | 12:19 |
nmz787_ | fenn: not really in a nice form tho | 12:19 |
nmz787_ | fenn: my hair and nail cells are mamallian | 12:19 |
yashgaroth | it's schedule I but you have a point, still it's only a proof of concept | 12:20 |
nmz787_ | er mammalian | 12:20 |
@fenn | there's no such thing as a "hair cell" | 12:20 |
nmz787_ | there must be | 12:20 |
nmz787_ | something becomes/makes hair | 12:20 |
@fenn | sure, follicle cells | 12:20 |
nmz787_ | afaik it was a mix of dead cells and proitein | 12:20 |
nmz787_ | fenn: so i was asking yashgaroth how easy it would be to transform them | 12:20 |
nmz787_ | since he's all knowing about skin electroporation | 12:21 |
nmz787_ | seems like an easier target than muscle even | 12:21 |
yashgaroth | higher turnover in skin, shorter halflife for plasmids | 12:21 |
yashgaroth | many more immune cells | 12:21 |
@fenn | this is just a human transformation demo? GFP should do fine then | 12:22 |
nmz787_ | you're saying you might risk transforming the WBCs? | 12:22 |
yashgaroth | no I'm saying you risk exposing the gfp-transformed cells to the immune system whereupon the transformed cells will be destroyed | 12:23 |
nmz787_ | fenn: no, like i said, i want high-value drugs in my nails and hair, different patches/fingers would be different drugs | 12:23 |
@fenn | um, there's the obvious problem where you're high on drugs constantly | 12:24 |
nmz787_ | no | 12:24 |
nmz787_ | read the logs | 12:24 |
nmz787_ | 12:16 < nmz787_> yeah but just in the nail/hair, and such that it didn't leak | 12:24 |
nmz787_ | back into the blood | 12:24 |
@fenn | what day/channel was that? | 12:24 |
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nmz787_ | 8 mins ago | 12:25 |
nmz787_ | 9 now | 12:25 |
nmz787_ | this onee | 12:25 |
@fenn | okay. | 12:25 |
@fenn | thanks for humoring me | 12:25 |
nmz787_ | :D | 12:26 |
@fenn | you could transform the follicle cells outside of the body and then implant them | 12:26 |
@fenn | i still think you'd be high on whatever drug as long as the cells are in your body | 12:27 |
nmz787_ | anyway, it would certainly be difficult, but it would be damn sweet and potentially life saving (one fingernail could have a single dose of epinephrine or some other crap) | 12:27 |
nmz787_ | fenn: well, no | 12:27 |
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@kanzure | why wouldn't you just use fingerpaints instead? | 12:27 |
nmz787_ | fenn: that's specifically not a goal | 12:27 |
@kanzure | then you can just have epinephrine fingerpaint, and adrenaline fingerpaint, etc. | 12:28 |
nmz787_ | kanzure: because my fingers don't synthesize paint either | 12:28 |
nmz787_ | i want to depend less on anything but my body | 12:28 |
nmz787_ | my nails don't serve enough functions | 12:28 |
@fenn | how about inserting genes for vitamin C synthesis | 12:28 |
nmz787_ | i hadn't thought about it til now, but the extra chems in the nail could weaken it | 12:29 |
nmz787_ | but i guess certain drugs that are not too flexible could strengthen or not change it much | 12:29 |
nmz787_ | i don't know about nail structure much on the molecular level | 12:29 |
nmz787_ | or hair | 12:29 |
@fenn | how about incorporating metalloprotein complexes such as wear-resistant carpenter ant jaw tips | 12:29 |
nmz787_ | that would be functional, sure | 12:30 |
nmz787_ | have a pinky nail that's extra hard/sharp/wear-resistant | 12:30 |
@fenn | then you could become a professional backscratcher | 12:30 |
nmz787_ | 'you have to cut your nail to come on the airplane, sir' | 12:30 |
nmz787_ | 2-part suicide bomber fingernails, blow up when brought into contact | 12:31 |
@fenn | organic LED fingernails | 12:31 |
nmz787_ | i knew a beekeeper that always had a long pinky nail | 12:31 |
nmz787_ | so he could scrape out stingers | 12:32 |
nmz787_ | yashgaroth: can you prevent MHC presentation? | 12:33 |
yashgaroth | viruses try that | 12:33 |
yashgaroth | generally a cell that doesn't present MHC is killed, and you can't block a specific protein from being presented | 12:34 |
nmz787_ | well just for a certain 1 protein | 12:35 |
nmz787_ | there must be some bigger protein that would bind the MHC:GFP complex as it was translocating, and stop it | 12:36 |
nmz787_ | s/would/could/ | 12:36 |
yashgaroth | there would be a number of gfp peptides attached to TAP and you would need a 'bigger protein' specific for each of those, as well as an even bigger protein for all the peptides from your original bigger proteins | 12:37 |
@fenn | http://io9.com/5839156/what-can-this-glow+in+the+dark-kitten-teach-scientists-about-aids | 12:37 |
@fenn | i've never seen a GFP cat before | 12:37 |
nmz787_ | hmm, is there a way to preven peptidase from chewing up and making GFP big->small | 12:39 |
nmz787_ | ? | 12:39 |
yashgaroth | no | 12:40 |
@fenn | woah sweet i want this http://miqel.com/new_information/image_2008/gfp_in_bones.jpg | 12:41 |
nmz787_ | yashgaroth: so what about modding my unfertilized kids nails/hair? | 12:44 |
yashgaroth | oh yeah way easier | 12:44 |
nmz787_ | the not leaking into the blood thing seems like it'd be the major hurdle | 12:44 |
nmz787_ | i dunno if nails are composed of cells | 12:45 |
nmz787_ | or just keratin | 12:45 |
gradstudentbot | Okay, someone really needs to do the lab dishes. | 12:45 |
nmz787_ | if the latter, the chem would need to be exported | 12:45 |
nmz787_ | but only in one direction, and then i wonder what the rate of diffusion in nail is | 12:45 |
nmz787_ | not too wet, but it could lead to fenn's concern of being high all the time | 12:46 |
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@fenn | kanzure: have you seen magzdb.org? | 12:58 |
delinquentme | what areas of the body have pretty exposed capillary beds? | 12:59 |
delinquentme | wrist... | 12:59 |
delinquentme | mouth and those things ... I'm wondering where we can grab MEANINGFUL data from | 13:00 |
delinquentme | do we always need a blood sample? | 13:00 |
delinquentme | has anyone developed a pesistent vein breach to take continuous blood samples from? | 13:00 |
@fenn | chemotherapy patients often get a silicone "port" installed near their collarbone.. | 13:01 |
@fenn | seems kinda invasive though | 13:02 |
delinquentme | COOOL | 13:02 |
delinquentme | pics? | 13:02 |
@fenn | reminder to self, don't get cancer | 13:05 |
nmz787_ | i've heard all ports have biofilm and contam problems | 13:06 |
nmz787_ | maybe you could scarify some kind of lesion | 13:07 |
nmz787_ | delinquentme: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Beaumont#Experiments_with_St._Martin | 13:08 |
nmz787_ | natural port | 13:08 |
delinquentme | oh sure and we do this with cows | 13:09 |
delinquentme | im just wondering about how its implemented | 13:09 |
@fenn | the chemo port isn't a window, it's a membrane you can repeatedly jab with a needle and not collapse the vein | 13:10 |
@fenn | anyway it's an infection risk | 13:11 |
nmz787_ | delinquentme: best to go ask some cow people | 13:12 |
nmz787_ | delinquentme: a sphincter would work | 13:12 |
nmz787_ | graft your asshole to your neck, just use a colostomy bag | 13:13 |
delinquentme | hahahaha | 13:14 |
delinquentme | OHHHHH | 13:14 |
delinquentme | what membrane made otu of | 13:14 |
delinquentme | the portion you're jabbing through | 13:14 |
@fenn | silicone rubber | 13:14 |
gradstudentbot | The gel is streaking. | 13:16 |
gradstudentbot | When is he back from sabbatical? | 13:17 |
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@kanzure | fenn: not that i recall | 13:23 |
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EnLilaSko | Is there a way to get this? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/5723186 | 15:00 |
EnLilaSko | No paperbot? | 15:06 |
ParahSailin | did i kill paperbot | 15:15 |
EnLilaSko | http://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007%2FBF00401343.pdf - dowant | 15:16 |
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@kanzure | someone should remind me to fix http://gnusha.org/logs/2013-07-05.log | 15:33 |
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@kanzure | EnLilaSko: i have paperbot offline for a while because i didn't have time to fix it | 15:34 |
@kanzure | EnLilaSko: it was downloading all links and spamming up the channel | 15:34 |
EnLilaSko | ah, ok | 15:34 |
@kanzure | ParahSailin: not entirely your fault. well, mostly your fault. but since i can't explain how it is your fault, you get to escape blame. | 15:34 |
EnLilaSko | I posted on reddit anyway, I'll get the paper | 15:34 |
EnLilaSko | but great work with the bot | 15:34 |
@kanzure | EnLilaSko: http://diyhpl.us/wiki/articles | 15:34 |
ParahSailin | downloading everything eh | 15:35 |
@kanzure | well, it was always downloading everything, but it shouldn't tell me that it is doing that | 15:35 |
@kanzure | i.e., if i post a random link to a youtube video, it shouldn't post the html of that page | 15:35 |
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@kanzure | okay fine quit while you're ahead | 15:35 |
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delinquentme | http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/160458-how-to-write-with-single-atoms-on-the-cheap << these are all false color images right? who applies these colors to these images? | 17:04 |
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Burninate | there's a distinction between 'colorspace mapped' false color as in things like astrophotography, and 'hand-colorized' false color | 17:36 |
Burninate | Is all electron microscopy the latter? | 17:37 |
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nmz787_ | delinquentme: http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/atomic_calligraphy__the_direct_writing_of_n_anoscale_structures_using_a_microelectrochemical_system.pdf | 18:51 |
nmz787_ | delinquentme: http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/atomic_calligraphy__the_direct_writing_of_nanoscale_structures_using_a_microelectrochemical_system.pdf | 18:52 |
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gradstudentbot | Should I be doing this in the fume hood? | 18:52 |
* brownies pokes gradstudentbot | 18:53 | |
gradstudentbot | Sorry for wasting your time. | 18:53 |
brownies | heh. | 18:53 |
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artao | aha | 20:04 |
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@kanzure | gone :( | 20:08 |
@kanzure | http://nocash.emubase.de/pandocs.htm | 20:08 |
@kanzure | oops | 20:08 |
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delinquentme | http://news.discovery.com/tech/biotechnology/first-human-liver-stem-cells-130705.htm | 20:16 |
delinquentme | why brain? | 20:16 |
delinquentme | why transplant liver into a brain? | 20:16 |
nmz787_ | delinquentme: find the original paper | 20:22 |
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nmz787_ | delinquentme: maybe to prevent rejection? blood brain barrier yashgaroth ? | 20:25 |
nmz787_ | delinquentme: this was last year too http://www.nature.com/news/rudimentary-liver-grown-in-vitro-1.10848 | 20:26 |
yashgaroth | yeah that's a reasonable explanation | 20:26 |
yashgaroth | "replacement glass skull" oh hell yeah that sounds boss | 20:27 |
delinquentme | ^ | 20:27 |
delinquentme | thats what i said! | 20:27 |
nmz787_ | delinquentme: http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/Vascularized_and_functional_human_liver_from_an_iPSC-derived_organ_bud_transplant.pdf | 20:28 |
delinquentme | this is kinda sexy I've not learned how the brain is perfused before | 20:28 |
@kanzure | hmm | 20:29 |
@kanzure | https://github.com/virtualopensystems/linux-kvm-arm/commits/kvm-arm-master | 20:29 |
gradstudentbot | I'm so doing industry. | 20:29 |
@kanzure | "Showcased at ARM TechCon 2012, this is a demonstration of two Guests (Android and Ubuntu), being fully virtualized with KVM-on-ARM on Versatile Express development hardware. It is meant as a proof of concept, to establish the feasibility and near-native performance of KVM on the v7 ARM architecture." | 20:31 |
nmz787_ | "Haemodynamic stimulation is essential for liver-bud maturation12. To test whether human iPSC-LBs were capable of generating completely functional liver, we used a cranial window model because of the optical access13" | 20:31 |
@kanzure | "This KVM demo by Virtual Open Systems demonstrates a Multi-Persona Android Virtualization with KVM on ARM Cortex A15, of interest for smartphones and tablets. The demo runs on ARM's Versatile Express with a Cortex-A15 dual core processor running at 1 GHz with 2 GB of RAM. Android Guest benchmark exhibits near native CPU performance." | 20:31 |
nmz787_ | here's citation 13 http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/Tissue_engineering_Creation_of_long-lasting_blood_vessels.pdf | 20:34 |
delinquentme | SO | 20:35 |
delinquentme | BBB... filtering of large particles ... keeps certain hormones ... | 20:35 |
nmz787_ | hmm, it doesn't seem to mention anything about a brain window in that | 20:36 |
delinquentme | but if these are developing correctly ... thats something to keep in mind for growing organs | 20:36 |
delinquentme | nmz787_, yeh theres another post from a few days back | 20:37 |
delinquentme | http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2013/jul/03/human-liver-stem-cell-treatment | 20:37 |
@kanzure | huh, the nexus 4 has a qualcomm snapdragon s4 which is armv7.. seems to have virtualization extensions. | 20:37 |
delinquentme | im guessing they're using immunodeficient mice? | 20:38 |
delinquentme | the paper talks about connecting them up in mouse | 20:38 |
delinquentme | ... the human livers | 20:38 |
delinquentme | also I was reading earlier about the gal gene? | 20:39 |
delinquentme | has to do with horse porn | 20:39 |
delinquentme | erm . inter species organ immuno reactions | 20:39 |
nmz787_ | http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11131537 | 20:42 |
nmz787_ | .title | 20:43 |
yoleaux | Molecular and cellular mechanisms in imm... [Novartis Found Symp. 2000] - PubMed - NCBI | 20:43 |
nmz787_ | " Rejection of neural xenografts is expected to be of a cellular nature, like neural allograft rejection, but may also display unique features, and cannot be dealt with using conventional immunosuppressive therapies." | 20:43 |
nmz787_ | :/ | 20:43 |
nmz787_ | sounds reasonable line of thinking I guess, but I'm no expert | 20:43 |
delinquentme | The liver tissue made so far used human cells from a number of different people, and any patient who received a transplant would need to take drugs to prevent rejection, as with any other organ transplant. As technology advances, though, it may become possible to make liver tissue from a patient's own cells, which would not be rejected. | 20:44 |
@kanzure | http://translatedcode.wordpress.com/2013/03/08/qemu-kvm-on-armv7-support-is-upstream/ "This week the QEMU support patches for KVM on ARM were accepted into upstream. Since the kernel KVM on ARM patchset was accepted for the 3.9 kernel, this means that there is now enough support in purely upstream kernel and QEMU for basic working KVM on ARMv7 cores with the Virtualization Extensions (specifically, Cortex-A15). There are still a number of ... | 20:45 |
delinquentme | I dont understand the part where we're iPScing things and its someone elses cells.. | 20:45 |
@kanzure | ... features left to be implemented but nonetheless I feel this is an important milestone." | 20:45 |
@kanzure | "KVM ARM will only work for ARMv7a processors with virtualization extensions." cool | 20:46 |
klafka_ | paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/cns.12063/abstract | 20:47 |
klafka_ | aww | 20:47 |
@kanzure | paperbot is gone because it is spamming the channel because of a bug | 20:49 |
klafka_ | aaah | 20:50 |
@kanzure | feel free to investigate a fix :P https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot | 20:50 |
@kanzure | "Krait has been upgraded to support the new virtualization instructions added in Cortex A15" | 20:51 |
@kanzure | i think this means my phone can run osx | 20:51 |
@kanzure | oh wait, no, only other arm operating systems | 20:52 |
@kanzure | so, debian-armv7 i guess. which isn't that bad. | 20:52 |
@kanzure | "Krait implements v7-A with virtualization and physical address extension as well as fma; same ISA as A15." | 20:52 |
delinquentme | omg. | 20:54 |
delinquentme | http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature12271.html | 20:54 |
delinquentme | need | 20:54 |
@kanzure | .title | 20:54 |
yoleaux | Vascularized and functional human liver from an iPSC-derived organ bud transplant : Nature : Nature Publishing Group | 20:54 |
nmz787_ | posted the link to the pdf 30 mins ago http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/Vascularized_and_functional_human_liver_from_an_iPSC-derived_organ_bud_transplant.pdf | 20:58 |
nmz787_ | see logs | 20:59 |
nmz787_ | 230:28 | 20:59 |
nmz787_ | 20:28 | 20:59 |
@kanzure | oh weird, the APQ8064 is 32-bit. | 21:05 |
@kanzure | weird, the APQ8064 datasheets are "confidential and proprietary" and not available to the public. that's crazy. | 21:08 |
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delinquentme | Once the liver buds were about 4 or 5 millimeters, the team implanted 12 liver buds into either the brain or abdomen of each mouse—sites chosen for their ease of access. | 21:33 |
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jonathan_ | "just use arduino" baaaahhh | 22:24 |
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rigel | its really great when you spend a couple hours on a problem and figure out how to solve it | 22:59 |
rigel | i was dreading wading back into my web scraping project | 23:00 |
rigel | but it's working now. i need to comment my code in a more structured way, but just commenting in the first place is amazingly helpful | 23:00 |
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