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| poppingtonic | paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0957415813001153 | 00:15 |
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| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Life-cycle%20economic%20analysis%20of%20distributed%20manufacturing%20with%20open-source%203-D%20printers.txt | 00:15 |
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| poppingtonic | hmmm..paywalled papers aren't accessed | 02:10 |
| archels | yes it does, that's the point. But it doesn't always work. | 02:27 |
| archels | paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=MiamiImageURL&_cid=271456&_user=1694017&_pii=S0957415813001153&_check=y&_origin=article&_zone=toolbar&_coverDate=17-Jul-2013&view=c&originContentFamily=serial&wchp=dGLbVlt-zSkWz&pid=1-s2.0-S0957415813001153-main.pdf&_valck=1&md5=e9252ee95ea369c0580a81a47eba9c2e&ie=/sdarticle.pdf | 02:27 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/ff57e0b7c61bc365f27c3b3152e2c474.pdf | 02:28 |
| poppingtonic | huh :) | 02:28 |
| archels | sometimes the right URL takes some digging; I copied that one from the txt file it returned originally. | 02:28 |
| poppingtonic | oh, i should have guessed that the url might be in there somewhere. | 02:29 |
| poppingtonic | ty | 02:29 |
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| archels | kanzure: looking at papers.py, the title should be correct for sciencedirect. | 02:43 |
| archels | title = tree.xpath("//h1[@class='svTitle']")[0].text returns the right title given the HTML from poppingtonic's first link, at least. | 02:44 |
| archels | Is this the code that paperbot is actually running? | 02:44 |
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| poppingtonic | yeah that's it. | 02:53 |
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| archels | oh, I see where it goes wrong. hm. | 03:02 |
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| archels | nope, comes out fine on this end. But I am testing on a connection that natively has access to sciencedirect. | 03:12 |
| gradstudentbot | Sorry about that. | 03:15 |
| poppingtonic | yours downloaded directly? | 03:17 |
| archels | my university gives me access. | 03:17 |
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| superkuh | paperbot: http://prl.aps.org/pdf/PRL/v109/i20/e205003 | 03:51 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag5/10.1103/PhysRevLett.109.205003.pdf | 03:52 |
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| archels | 01/13:35:49 < archels> notpaperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0957415813001153 | 04:37 |
| archels | 01/13:35:56 < notpaperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Life-cycle%20economic%20analysis%20of%20distributed%20manufacturing%20with%20open-source%203-D%20printers.pdf | 04:37 |
| archels | this is using download_url(), skipping the translation server/scihub stuff. So probably that is the part to blame. | 04:37 |
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| @kanzure | archels: i don't know what the source of the problem is | 06:56 |
| @kanzure | archels: the point is, paperbot shouldn't be this incomprehensible in general | 06:56 |
| archels | well, I set it up earlier (minus the http://localhost:1969 thing--still not quite sure what that is), and it worked out of the box | 07:57 |
| @kanzure | that's zotero translation-server on port 1969 | 07:58 |
| archels | do you want to eventually get rid of the download_url() function altogether, favouring Zotero? | 08:03 |
| @kanzure | i want to get rid of everything here | 08:03 |
| @kanzure | but for now, there should be unit testing of the download_url stuff | 08:03 |
| archels | well, like I said, download_url() works for sciencedirect. So what probably happens is, Zotero succeeds in getting the PDF, but with the wrong title. It never gets to download_url(). | 08:05 |
| @kanzure | actually, zotero fails for sciencedirect right now because translation-server doesn't support the sciencedirect translator for a really obscene reason | 08:05 |
| archels | I guess it's on to installing zotero/translation-server | 08:13 |
| @kanzure | you can just use gnusha.org:1969 | 08:13 |
| archels | alright | 08:25 |
| @kanzure | don't abuse that, btw | 08:26 |
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| gradstudentbot | Yeah, but his project was so easy. | 08:28 |
| archels | okay, so Zotero replies 'no translators available', after which it proceeds to try SciHub, which fails, after which it tries download_url(), which works fine for me, title and all. | 08:34 |
| archels | so I'm not sure why it doesn't work for the current instance of paperbot | 08:34 |
| @kanzure | archels: you sure? | 08:35 |
| @kanzure | 08:35 < kanzure> paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0957415813001153 | 08:35 |
| @kanzure | 08:35 < paperbot> Translation server fail | 08:35 |
| @kanzure | 08:35 < paperbot> Scihubber -> (http://sci-hub.org/pdfcache/630d554b140882a7750bcc5dc8ff6a78.pdf, None) | 08:35 |
| @kanzure | 08:35 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/571b33936490a4151ef357dad522bd70.pdf | 08:36 |
| archels | I get (None, None) for Scihubber | 08:36 |
| @kanzure | because you don't have the environment variable | 08:37 |
| archels | oh yeah, that makes sense as I don't have the password | 08:37 |
| @kanzure | i blackmailed the scihub person into giving me a special password | 08:37 |
| archels | heh | 08:37 |
| ParahSailin | more like seduced | 08:38 |
| @kanzure | i showed some chest hair, showered the person with bitcoins... etc. | 08:39 |
| * kanzure fondly remembers | 08:39 | |
| ParahSailin | dont forget your celebrity | 08:45 |
| @kanzure | my who? | 08:45 |
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| ParahSailin | what the hell, why is the python repl broken in this new install | 08:59 |
| ParahSailin | backspace? disallowed, no mistakes for you | 08:59 |
| @kanzure | probably your terminal is messed up | 09:01 |
| ParahSailin | there's really no concat :: [[a]] -> [a] in python std lib? well i guess lambda x:list(itertools.chain(*x)) is pretty awesome | 09:10 |
| @kanzure | [[a]] -> [a] is called flatten or zgroup or something | 09:11 |
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| cogitokat | I have compiled brlcad, and I'm trying to use swig to make python bindings, and when I do the swig command it says this http://paste.kde.org/p3775a896/ This is the #if it's taliking about in db.h http://paste.kde.org/p15615e93/ | 09:37 |
| ParahSailin | you'd think that str() on unicode type would be a synonym for .encode("utf8") | 09:37 |
| ParahSailin | but no, you have to do stuff like def _str(q): if type(q) == unicode: return q.encode("utf8"); else return str(q) | 09:38 |
| @nmz787 | how d | 09:55 |
| @nmz787 | cogitokat: have you used brl before? tomkinsc was asking how it was these days, and also asked of freecad (i haven't used either) | 09:58 |
| @nmz787 | tomkinsc: made a 90 degree bent tube in autodesk http://imgur.com/4mKBteB,FqbLDJm | 09:58 |
| cogitokat | nmz787, no, this is my first time doing anything with it. | 09:59 |
| tomkinsc | I wonder what the "hello world" of 3D CAD might be | 09:59 |
| tomkinsc | trying to remember what I learned first | 09:59 |
| tomkinsc | a "house" maybe | 10:00 |
| tomkinsc | but yeah, the screenshots on the BRL CAD site make it seem like there has been some progress improving its usability | 10:00 |
| @kanzure | brlcad recently got nurbs support | 10:00 |
| @kanzure | freecad is therefore completely deprecated and useless | 10:01 |
| @kanzure | freecad is just a wrapper around opencascade, which means the core cad kernel is unmaintainable and impossible to understand (it's written in C++ with a mix of english, russian and french) | 10:01 |
| tomkinsc | yikes | 10:01 |
| tomkinsc | yeah, it's nice to see consumer 3d printing pushing advancement of FOSS 3d cad | 10:02 |
| @kanzure | opencascade started out as CAS.CADE which was what CERN used for a long time | 10:02 |
| cogitokat | why is make benchmarks using all of my cpu ): | 10:02 |
| @kanzure | because brlcad uses your cpu to do raytracing | 10:02 |
| @kanzure | why are you doing benchmarks? | 10:02 |
| cogitokat | because it says to to make sure it is working correctly | 10:04 |
| tomkinsc | Why can't we buy bespoke computer keyboards yet? I have an ergo keyboard ( http://www.walyou.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Kinesis-Advantage-Keyboard2.jpg ), but it's not perfect and there should be someone selling custom keyboards based on hand measurements. 3D print the mechanical structure, with parametric spacing of keys based on the length of one's phalanges. Same for bespoke mice: grasp a block of clay and squash | 10:11 |
| tomkinsc | it, scan in its shell geometry, print a mouse case to match (at an orientation to reduce pronation) | 10:11 |
| cogitokat | I changed the db.h but now there are several warnings and a Syntax error, wahh | 10:13 |
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| @nmz787 | tomkinsc: you should really switch to idling in some tmux or screen window on a server that doesn't go to sleep | 11:31 |
| @nmz787 | i was going to say earlier that i think some folks in here have prev talked about chording keyboards | 11:32 |
| @kanzure | and plover. except plover doesn't work on any of my keyboard.s :( | 11:32 |
| @kanzure | *keyboards. | 11:32 |
| tomkinsc | so if I'm going to idle in a tmux session, which irc client do y'all prefer? | 11:35 |
| @kanzure | irssi | 11:35 |
| tomkinsc | ok | 11:36 |
| @nmz787 | paperbot: http://ijamc.darbose.in/ijamc/index.php/ijamc/article/view/277 | 11:36 |
| @nmz787 | paperbot: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/cr068083a?journalCode=chreay | 11:37 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag4/10.1021/cr068083a.pdf | 11:37 |
| @kanzure | tomkinsc: http://www.seanwrona.com/typeracer/profile.php?username=kanzure | 11:37 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/f23d29abff1a2a4e8fa6e9ac62cf0b52.txt | 11:37 |
| @kanzure | tomkinsc: make me a keyboard that makes me go faster | 11:37 |
| ParahSailin | i dont think we have any hindustani journal access | 11:37 |
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| tomkinsc | =) faster, or with less impact on your body? (not necessarily mutually exclusive, but my interest is on doing no harm to my hands) | 11:38 |
| tomkinsc | wrists, etc. | 11:38 |
| @kanzure | faster. fuck impact. | 11:39 |
| @nmz787 | i presume reducing the stress would increase available energy that could be diverted into movement | 11:39 |
| @nmz787 | kanzure: but if you can't type in 5 years because fuck degeneration... what will you do then? | 11:40 |
| @nmz787 | i guess you could shoot drugs into your wrist to reduce inflammation and local anesthetics | 11:40 |
| @kanzure | nmz787: pay someone to type for me | 11:40 |
| @nmz787 | but that would worsen... | 11:40 |
| @nmz787 | oh | 11:40 |
| @kanzure | nmz787: also hacker steroids | 11:40 |
| @nmz787 | that | 11:41 |
| @nmz787 | HACKER ROID RAGE LOOKS LIKE THIS | 11:41 |
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| ParahSailin | my hands were pretty messed up a year ago | 11:42 |
| ParahSailin | but from one one month adderall bender of typing | 11:42 |
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| @kanzure | nmz787: http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/loserzmartin/Macros/capslockfury.jpg | 11:43 |
| @nmz787 | paperbot: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00436-011-2541-y | 11:43 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag2/10.1007/s00436-011-2541-y.pdf | 11:43 |
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| @kanzure | i'm sure there's going to be some damage to my hands/wrists/forearms at some point. | 11:45 |
| @kanzure | that 24 hour typing marathon in 2011 was a really bad idea. | 11:45 |
| @nmz787 | paperbot: http://vdi.sagepub.com/content/early/2013/03/28/1040638713483538.full.pdf+html | 11:47 |
| paperbot | http://pdf.highwire.org/stamped/spvdi/early/2013/03/28/1040638713483538.full.pdf | 11:47 |
| @nmz787 | what is that??? | 11:47 |
| @nmz787 | (highwire) | 11:47 |
| @kanzure | highwire is a publisher aggregator of some sort. i think a bunch of publishers are outsourcing their hosting (or something). | 11:48 |
| @nmz787 | so paperbot found a leak | 11:48 |
| @nmz787 | ? | 11:48 |
| @kanzure | i doubt it.. i'm not sure what's going on. | 11:49 |
| @nmz787 | or it was open, and it googled for the pdf? | 11:49 |
| @kanzure | no.. it doesn't know how to do that. | 11:49 |
| @kanzure | that page has this link: | 11:49 |
| @kanzure | http://openathens.highwire.org/initiate-login?returnURL=http%3A%2F%2Fvdi.sagepub.com%2Fcontent%2Fearly%2F2013%2F03%2F28%2F1040638713483538.full.pdf%2Bhtml&subcode=sagepub" | 11:49 |
| @kanzure | oops, nevermind. that one doesn't matter. | 11:50 |
| @kanzure | yeah nevermind i can't explain it | 11:50 |
| @kanzure | http://highwire.org/ start reading i guess.. | 11:50 |
| @nmz787 | is there some way to add libgen as the receiver for my pdf uploader bookmarklet? | 11:51 |
| @nmz787 | paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp&arnumber=5936959&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D5936959 | 11:51 |
| @nmz787 | paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpls/abs_all.jsp?arnumber=6132609 | 11:51 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/850265422ac5c48f2211d2cd30824e56.pdf | 11:51 |
| paperbot | ConnectionError: [Errno 111] Connection refused (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/requests/models.py", line 625, in send) | 11:51 |
| @nmz787 | paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp&arnumber=5625851&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D5625851 | 11:51 |
| @kanzure | there might be a way to do that, but libgen might not have the right headers. | 11:51 |
| paperbot | ConnectionError: [Errno 111] Connection refused (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/requests/models.py", line 625, in send) | 11:51 |
| @kanzure | please don't use login.jsp on ieee | 11:52 |
| @nmz787 | ? | 11:52 |
| @kanzure | because login.jsp tells them that you didn't have access | 11:52 |
| @nmz787 | that's just a direct copy past from my browser url | 11:52 |
| @kanzure | whereas you want the actual url in the url= parameter | 11:52 |
| @nmz787 | shouldn't paperbot just do that parsing? | 11:53 |
| @nmz787 | or extraction | 11:53 |
| @kanzure | it's supposed to, but i didn't test that particular variation where you have arnumber first | 11:53 |
| @kanzure | instead of arnumber last | 11:53 |
| @nmz787 | paperbot: http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D5625851 | 11:53 |
| @kanzure | no.. | 11:53 |
| @kanzure | pass it through decodeURIComponent | 11:54 |
| @kanzure | like on http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/dencoder/ | 11:54 |
| @kanzure | or in your js console | 11:54 |
| @nmz787 | paperbot: http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D5625851 | 11:54 |
| @nmz787 | there's a bunch of web sites that do it | 11:54 |
| @nmz787 | paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpls/abs_all.jsp?arnumber=5625851 | 11:54 |
| paperbot | ConnectionError: [Errno 111] Connection refused (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/requests/models.py", line 625, in send) | 11:54 |
| @nmz787 | that's weird | 11:55 |
| @nmz787 | paperbot should def have access | 11:55 |
| @nmz787 | grr, my pdf uploader can't handle a banner, since it redownloads using the current URL | 11:56 |
| @kanzure | a banner? | 11:57 |
| @nmz787 | yeah IEEE | 11:58 |
| @nmz787 | Brought to you by XXX XXX UNIVERSITY | 11:58 |
| @nmz787 | the actual file is stamp.jsp | 11:58 |
| @nmz787 | not the pdf | 11:58 |
| @nmz787 | paperbot: http://rheumatology.oxfordjournals.org/content/15/3/138 | 12:04 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1093%2Frheumatology%2F15.3.138 | 12:04 |
| @nmz787 | paperbot: http://rheumatology.oxfordjournals.org/content/15/3/138.full.pdf+html | 12:04 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1093%2Frheumatology%2F15.3.138 | 12:04 |
| @nmz787 | paperbot: https://www-thieme-connect-com.ezproxy.lib.umb.edu/ejournals/abstract/10.1055/s-1995-3996 | 12:08 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/3112c1a5149c838317f628c07a9f4a65.txt | 12:08 |
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| @nmz787 | paperbot: https://www-thieme-connect-com/ejournals/abstract/10.1055/s-1995-3996 | 12:09 |
| paperbot | ConnectionError: [Errno -2] Name or service not known (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/requests/models.py", line 625, in send) | 12:09 |
| @nmz787 | paperbot: https://www.thieme-connect.com/ejournals/abstract/10.1055/s-1995-3996 | 12:09 |
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| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/7369fbc40db2a3116e7662a232a7e7f2.txt | 12:09 |
| @nmz787 | paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0168160506005952 | 12:10 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag3/10.1016/j.ijfoodmicro.2006.10.040.pdf | 12:10 |
| @nmz787 | ok done for now | 12:10 |
| @nmz787 | anyone heard more about this http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/01/new-york-police-terrorism-pressure-cooker | 12:15 |
| @nmz787 | ? | 12:15 |
| @nmz787 | seems like they didn't actually purchase a pressure cooker | 12:15 |
| @nmz787 | so now the govt is actively using search history? | 12:15 |
| @kanzure | lots of unverified claims in that article, might not have been fbi, etc. | 12:16 |
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| delinquentme | ok so chemistry is clueless as to why no folding in vacuum | 13:13 |
| delinquentme | anyone in here have an idea? | 13:14 |
| ParahSailin | folding? | 13:16 |
| @nmz787 | paperbot: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v500/n7460/full/500036b.html | 13:19 |
| @kanzure | a lot of the folding problems are exaggerated.. for the most part we definitely have heuristics for certain folds. | 13:19 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2F500036b | 13:19 |
| @nmz787 | another fail by paperbot http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/Tiny_thermometers_used_in_living_cells.pdf | 13:20 |
| @kanzure | you should consider debugging paperbot | 13:20 |
| @nmz787 | paperbot: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v500/n7460/pdf/500036b.pdf | 13:20 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag5/10.1038/500036b.pdf | 13:20 |
| @nmz787 | what!!! | 13:21 |
| @nmz787 | i guess the zotero scraper is to blame then? | 13:21 |
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| delinquentme | kanzure, sure but only for certain proteins and of known lengths | 13:21 |
| delinquentme | for example we're not building ribosomes with known modifications are we? | 13:22 |
| @kanzure | what does "known modifications" mean? | 13:22 |
| delinquentme | I'm guessing the folding in vacuum happens to be an issue of how to assemble them | 13:22 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, just some novel modification and getting out the consequently "modified ribosome" | 13:22 |
| delinquentme | out in a reliable manner. What I'm getting at is sure we know some folds ... but theyre' length restricted | 13:23 |
| delinquentme | ill be back in a bit | 13:23 |
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| @nmz787 | delinquentme: other ions probably assist in the folding process | 13:23 |
| @kanzure | on a related note, i remember really liking http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bio/protein-engineering/Design%20of%20protein%20function%20leaps%20by%20directed%20domain%20interface%20evolution.pdf | 13:23 |
| @nmz787 | charges can't move around otherwise as fast i think | 13:23 |
| @kanzure | but i don't have a dump of papers about rational protein design | 13:23 |
| @nmz787 | kanzure: can i put this in a standalone .js file if i remove the script tags? | 13:34 |
| @nmz787 | http://pastebin.com/pUVHq823 | 13:35 |
| ParahSailin | what magic is {% for (var i=0, file; file=o.files[i]; i++) { %} | 13:35 |
| @nmz787 | some js or jquery display template | 13:35 |
| @kanzure | jinja2 template? | 13:36 |
| @kanzure | oh sorry. mustache. | 13:36 |
| @nmz787 | https://github.com/blueimp/JavaScript-Templates | 13:36 |
| @kanzure | no, mustache is {{ | 13:36 |
| @kanzure | hmm. | 13:36 |
| @nmz787 | i'm hacking the demo page of this into a web site https://github.com/blueimp/jQuery-File-Upload | 13:36 |
| @kanzure | handlebars? | 13:36 |
| @nmz787 | replacing plupload | 13:36 |
| @kanzure | nope, not handlebars either. | 13:37 |
| @nmz787 | ? | 13:38 |
| @nmz787 | chrome | 13:38 |
| @kanzure | no, i was trying to figure out the templating framework that corresponds to that syntax | 13:39 |
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| @nmz787 | i think the problem is getting it past django | 13:40 |
| @nmz787 | i added {% load verbatim_templatetag %} | 13:41 |
| @nmz787 | and enclosed the template in {% verbatim %} | 13:41 |
| @nmz787 | but it isn't getting into the web page source | 13:41 |
| @nmz787 | http://pastebin.com/pUVHq823 tomkinsc | 13:47 |
| @kanzure | nmz787: could you see if you have any notes about the chemicals you wanted to buy. this would have been about a year ago.. | 13:55 |
| fenn | nmz787: "NSA seems to have its finger on the pulses." | 14:04 |
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| @nmz787 | kanzure: yes i have a list | 14:23 |
| @nmz787 | kanzure: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkTsdtdxo56DdDFCUmNqMzVyYi04eGw4cUJ6bG1KMlE&usp=sharing | 14:24 |
| @nmz787 | it wasn't public | 14:24 |
| @nmz787 | it is now | 14:24 |
| @nmz787 | kanzure: did you figure out what language that template is most like? | 14:26 |
| tomkinsc | jquery-file-uploader is using a somewhat obscure js template engine | 14:26 |
| tomkinsc | https://github.com/blueimp/JavaScript-Templates | 14:26 |
| tomkinsc | not one of the more popular options ( http://garann.github.io/template-chooser/ ) | 14:26 |
| @nmz787 | tomkinsc: the log link is in the sign-on message for this room | 14:34 |
| @nmz787 | though I don't know how to get that to show up otherwise | 14:34 |
| @nmz787 | tomkinsc: the engine is by the same user as the uploader | 14:36 |
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| @nmz787 | tomkinsc: gnusha_ is the log bot | 14:48 |
| @kanzure | why are you saying random things i don't get it | 14:50 |
| @nmz787 | i typed lastlog | 14:53 |
| @nmz787 | i didn't know everyone would see it | 14:53 |
| @kanzure | i only see 14:48 <@nmz787> tomkinsc: gnusha_ is the log bot | 14:53 |
| @nmz787 | ahh | 14:54 |
| @nmz787 | opk | 14:54 |
| @nmz787 | we are talking in pm | 14:54 |
| @nmz787 | since he doesn't idle here | 14:54 |
| @nmz787 | yet | 14:54 |
| ParahSailin | just my luck that npm install canvas is broken | 14:55 |
| @nmz787 | lol ted nelson and aaswartz http://hyperland.com/TN,Doug,AaronSwartz,Ca2001-eugenekim.PNG | 14:56 |
| @nmz787 | seems to be teaching a class in Orange county this fall | 14:57 |
| @kanzure | oh interesting. all of atlassian's jira's installs are all vulnerable to the same exploit that brought down apple's dev center a few weeks ago. | 14:58 |
| @kanzure | jira and confluence | 14:59 |
| tomkinsc | "A Six Months Exercise Intervention Influences the Genome-wide DNA Methylation Pattern in Human Adipose Tissue" | 15:24 |
| tomkinsc | https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3694844/ | 15:24 |
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| @ParahSail1n | kanzure, i have a module i made for node that sets exports.bla variables, require.js will import those the same way? | 17:36 |
| @kanzure | theoretically yes | 17:39 |
| @kanzure | and if it doesn't.. http://browserify.org/ is an alternative. | 17:39 |
| @ParahSail1n | or is it easier for me to just maintain two different ones with slightly different wrapping | 17:39 |
| @kanzure | noooo | 17:39 |
| @ParahSail1n | ah yeah browserify looks good | 17:40 |
| @kanzure | i would disown you | 17:40 |
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| delinquentme | https://gist.github.com/delinquentme/6137227 | 20:18 |
| delinquentme | more eloquent way to do this? | 20:18 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, does you prog? | 20:19 |
| delinquentme | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU_xpBjMAZA | 20:20 |
| @kanzure | delinquentme: i don't understand the purpose of the else block | 20:24 |
| @kanzure | yeah, me either | 20:24 |
| @kanzure | oh.. hello me. | 20:25 |
| delinquentme | i want to $(this).find('.commentField').text() <<< not repeat that twice | 20:25 |
| delinquentme | meet the real me | 20:25 |
| delinquentme | something like self.text() in the truthy portion | 20:25 |
| delinquentme | var rowComment = $(this).find('.commentField').text() != '[Click to edit]' ? $(this).find('.commentField').text() : ""; | 20:25 |
| @kanzure | what's wrong with var rowComment on a separate line? | 20:25 |
| @kanzure | just do it before the if/then statement | 20:26 |
| @kanzure | anyway, you should never be using the text of a form element to manage the state of your form... | 20:26 |
| @kanzure | most people use a finite state machine to control their forms | 20:26 |
| gradstudentbot | I'll need to pull an all-nighter. | 20:27 |
| @kanzure | or something like https://github.com/powmedia/backbone-forms | 20:27 |
| @kanzure | or uh... http://www.lukerodgers.ca/2012/06/backbone-js-finite-state-machine-view/ | 20:27 |
| @kanzure | https://github.com/lukeasrodgers/backbone-fsm-view | 20:27 |
| @kanzure | https://github.com/sebpiq/backbone.statemachine | 20:27 |
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| @ParahSail1n | where's the return value of the "$(this).find('.commentField').text()" inside the brace going? | 21:10 |
| @ParahSail1n | javascript doesnt have a secret a?b:c control structure, does it? | 21:11 |
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| @kanzure | i don't often have a reason to use the ternary operator in javascript | 21:12 |
| @kanzure | the .text() call isn't doing anything, he was just angry that he had to use a temporary variable | 21:12 |
| @kanzure | i think. | 21:13 |
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| cpopell | kanzure: Ever applied for a SBIR? | 22:30 |
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| @kanzure | cpopell: no | 22:47 |
| cpopell | Any interest at all? | 22:47 |
| @kanzure | nope. do you need money for something? | 22:49 |
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| cpopell | Eh, just building up. There's some interesting human genetic modification ones available, wasn't sure if you tracked them. | 22:49 |
| @kanzure | i think it's better to take money from "within the family" at this point | 22:50 |
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| cpopell | What are you working toward these days, anything in particular? | 22:53 |
| cpopell | I was away for sixish months while trying to find contracts, hah | 22:53 |
| @kanzure | at the moment i am working on falling asleep | 22:56 |
| cpopell | Ah | 22:56 |
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| @kanzure | also preoccupied with "really important things" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVbLOM0b5c0 | 22:57 |
| cpopell | lol | 22:57 |
| cpopell | you ever read about perceptual control theory? | 22:58 |
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| @kanzure | no | 23:00 |
| cpopell | thought I'd ask, since I saw you in ##neuroscience and epitron said it had been discussed there in the past | 23:00 |
| cpopell | plus you read all sorts of stuff | 23:00 |
| @kanzure | you should ignore like 20% of what that guy brings up | 23:02 |
| @kanzure | except when he talks about his brain cyst, because that's cool as shit | 23:02 |
| cpopell | Nah, found PCT myself | 23:02 |
| cpopell | it's interesting, especially the ways they examined its use in interfaces | 23:02 |
| @kanzure | i just read the wikipedia page and i believe it's the most boring thing you could possibly bring me | 23:03 |
| cpopell | haha, different strokes for different folks I guess | 23:03 |
| @kanzure | here have a thing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemantics | 23:03 |
| * kanzure sleeps | 23:04 | |
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