2013-08-21.log

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-!- Topic for ##hplusroadmap: biohacking, nootropics, transhumanism, open hardware | sponsored by george church and the NRA | http://gnusha.org/logs http://diyhpl.us/wiki http://groups.google.com/group/diybio | banned by the Federal Death Administration | official paperbot fan club01:57
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poppingtonicgradstudentbot: you02:17
gradstudentbotDoes this look contaminated to you?02:17
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aelinoealet me have a sniff02:22
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EnLilaSkopaperbot: http://www.schres-journal.com/article/S0920-9964%2812%2900107-7/pdf05:12
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/85010ba608c109e9849645c6976ce2a1.txt05:12
EnLilaSkopaperbot: http://www.schres-journal.com/article/S0920-9964%2812%2900107-7/fulltext05:13
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/2a7bc625eedfee265a24f0001b246ea.txt05:13
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delinquentmeAre there embedded functional linux systems running in people?08:48
gradstudentbotWho got mustard on my cell culture?08:50
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heathprogramming:  http://i.minus.com/ibaDjk7AeIcvxv.gif09:50
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archelsif you have managed to put a computer inside your body, why the fuck would you choose to run Linux on it?10:24
kanzurewell, i'm not going to run windings10:24
kanzureor nsadroid10:25
archelsthe sensible choice would be an embedded OS with a small footprint and low power consumption10:25
kanzurevtworkx or whatever is overkill and not open source10:25
archelsVxWorks? There are plenty others.10:29
kanzureplan910:30
archelsha10:30
archelssuppose you could implant a small computer with a reasonably fast processor and long battery life. What would you do with it? What would you want it to do?10:33
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ybitdon't we have a no philosophy rule?10:51
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ParahSai1inyes10:51
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archelsuh, what?10:57
archelswe actually have the possibility to engineer this at present10:57
ybit"What would you do with it? What would you want it to do?'10:58
archelsthese aren't philosophical questions, they are engineering questions10:58
ybitmeh10:59
ParahSai1inoh, i thought that question was a propos of nothing11:01
fennengineering questions require engineering parameters11:02
fennthere's a big difference between a microwatt embedded 1 MIPS pacemaker controller and a reconfigurable FPGA grid11:03
fennalso, what sensors does it have, how much bio-integration is possible, etc11:04
ParahSai1ini say we just ignore delinquentme because he only makes nonsense11:05
aelinoeaimplant that thing on da pleasure center of da brain/genitalz for programmed pleasure?11:05
fennpersonally i don't want implanted anything, but i suppose if i had to, a bluetooth tooth would be nice.11:05
fenni have some vague ideas about artificial immune systems and real-time quantitative blood tests11:06
fennbut that's not particularly computer-heavy11:06
kanzureprobably public key cryptography stuff11:07
archelsBluetooth is about as ill suited for body networks as Linux is for implanted computers11:07
fennshh don't steamroll my pun11:07
kanzureactually, no, i wouldn't do that because it just incentivizes people to hack off my jaw11:07
gradstudentbotSeriously, who moved my samples?11:09
fenni'm in ur freezer, swappin ur eppendorfs11:11
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kanzurefenn: i'm sending you some email that you might want to contemplate11:17
fennhe has a good point about needing a DRC for each process11:22
kanzurei am sorta busy and i was hoping you would contemplate writing a reply to them11:22
fenni think "vitamin" misses the point that you can make your own stuff11:22
kanzurei am a bda person for not replying immediately11:22
fennyar11:22
kanzurealso, it's obvious that they don't know what they're doing if you look at their git repo11:22
kanzurebut they have a few good ideas and they seem to be making physical things11:22
kanzureso if anything i can provide tactical support on the software end or something11:23
stieruridir_gymkanzure: I fully admit I haven't started looking yet, but do you have any preferred resources on navigating the legal aspects of offshoring?11:25
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kanzurecpopell: patri had his friends write a book about it for him, go look at whatever seasteading institute wrote11:25
cpopellthe seasteading wrote a book about sending labor overseas to third world countries?11:26
cpopell*seasteading institute11:26
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ParahSai1inif you're interested in incredibly expensive real estate, maybe i could interest you in hong kong11:29
cpopellI have someone I want to hire to do something but they're not in the US, was just seeing if there were highly recommended resources11:29
ParahSai1ini'd recommend giving them money and then receiving services11:30
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kanzurethat's called outsourcing11:38
kanzureoffshoring is seasteading11:38
cpopellhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offshoring11:38
kanzureoh whatever11:38
kanzureanyway if you want to do overseas outsourcing you can just pipe him through odesk or vlance or whateverthefuck. they manage the legal crap and then help you do payment.11:39
cpopellSweet, thanks.11:39
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fenni read technocopia's working documents and i'm not particularly impressed12:54
fennthey seems to massively underestimate the time and energy requirements of farming12:54
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fennthere's also no quantitative analysis of the system they're trying to design12:55
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fenn"users subscribe to technocopia for $100 a month" also doesn't sound particularly revolutionary12:58
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kanzurefenn: yeah, i never claimed it was impressive13:18
ParahSai1intechnocopia?13:40
kanzurejust some people i found that i emailed to say hi13:40
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ybithttp://i.imgur.com/fcZCJSQ.jpg17:01
ybit.title17:02
yoleauxybit: Sorry, that doesn't appear to be an HTML page.17:02
ybityoleaux: no ocr? :'(17:02
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stieruridirybit: seen the Urbee?17:13
ybitwatching vid now17:16
ybitthanks stieruridir, hadn't heard of it17:20
stieruridirnp17:21
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kanzuregeeze "This may happen more often than you think. There is a technique popularized by some MySQL hackers at Facebook called "poor man's query profiling" that uses gdb to (among other things) dump the the stack traces of every MySQL thread. Some awk normalizes, aggregates and sorts the traces. I often do this when I encounter a badly flailing or completely wedged MySQL daemon. It's a good way to see inside MySQL, and if a bunch of threads are ...19:25
kanzure... all blocked on a mutex or something it's pretty obvious."19:25
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browniesthat's pretty funny19:57
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ybitthese sounds need to be playing more in the background when working: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPRA0W1kECg21:48
ybit.title21:48
yoleaux15 Sorting Algorithms in 6 Minutes - YouTube21:48
ybitold i know, but fun to see again21:48
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kanzurehttp://noads.libgen.info/22:03
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ybit"To facilitate genome-wide application of the sgRNA:pcoCas9 technology in Arabidopsis, we generated, using bioinformatics[!!11one], a database containing a total of 1,466,718 unique sgRNA target sequences in Arabidopsis exons..."23:04
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