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-!- Topic for ##hplusroadmap: biohacking, nootropics, transhumanism, open hardware | sponsored by george church and the NRA | http://gnusha.org/logs http://diyhpl.us/wiki http://groups.google.com/group/diybio | banned by the Federal Death Administration | official paperbot fan club | 01:57 | |
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poppingtonic | gradstudentbot: you | 02:17 |
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gradstudentbot | Does this look contaminated to you? | 02:17 |
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aelinoea | let me have a sniff | 02:22 |
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EnLilaSko | paperbot: http://www.schres-journal.com/article/S0920-9964%2812%2900107-7/pdf | 05:12 |
paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/85010ba608c109e9849645c6976ce2a1.txt | 05:12 |
EnLilaSko | paperbot: http://www.schres-journal.com/article/S0920-9964%2812%2900107-7/fulltext | 05:13 |
paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/2a7bc625eedfee265a24f0001b246ea.txt | 05:13 |
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delinquentme | Are there embedded functional linux systems running in people? | 08:48 |
gradstudentbot | Who got mustard on my cell culture? | 08:50 |
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heath | programming: http://i.minus.com/ibaDjk7AeIcvxv.gif | 09:50 |
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archels | if you have managed to put a computer inside your body, why the fuck would you choose to run Linux on it? | 10:24 |
kanzure | well, i'm not going to run windings | 10:24 |
kanzure | or nsadroid | 10:25 |
archels | the sensible choice would be an embedded OS with a small footprint and low power consumption | 10:25 |
kanzure | vtworkx or whatever is overkill and not open source | 10:25 |
archels | VxWorks? There are plenty others. | 10:29 |
kanzure | plan9 | 10:30 |
archels | ha | 10:30 |
archels | suppose you could implant a small computer with a reasonably fast processor and long battery life. What would you do with it? What would you want it to do? | 10:33 |
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ybit | don't we have a no philosophy rule? | 10:51 |
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ParahSai1in | yes | 10:51 |
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archels | uh, what? | 10:57 |
archels | we actually have the possibility to engineer this at present | 10:57 |
ybit | "What would you do with it? What would you want it to do?' | 10:58 |
archels | these aren't philosophical questions, they are engineering questions | 10:58 |
ybit | meh | 10:59 |
ParahSai1in | oh, i thought that question was a propos of nothing | 11:01 |
fenn | engineering questions require engineering parameters | 11:02 |
fenn | there's a big difference between a microwatt embedded 1 MIPS pacemaker controller and a reconfigurable FPGA grid | 11:03 |
fenn | also, what sensors does it have, how much bio-integration is possible, etc | 11:04 |
ParahSai1in | i say we just ignore delinquentme because he only makes nonsense | 11:05 |
aelinoea | implant that thing on da pleasure center of da brain/genitalz for programmed pleasure? | 11:05 |
fenn | personally i don't want implanted anything, but i suppose if i had to, a bluetooth tooth would be nice. | 11:05 |
fenn | i have some vague ideas about artificial immune systems and real-time quantitative blood tests | 11:06 |
fenn | but that's not particularly computer-heavy | 11:06 |
kanzure | probably public key cryptography stuff | 11:07 |
archels | Bluetooth is about as ill suited for body networks as Linux is for implanted computers | 11:07 |
fenn | shh don't steamroll my pun | 11:07 |
kanzure | actually, no, i wouldn't do that because it just incentivizes people to hack off my jaw | 11:07 |
gradstudentbot | Seriously, who moved my samples? | 11:09 |
fenn | i'm in ur freezer, swappin ur eppendorfs | 11:11 |
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kanzure | fenn: i'm sending you some email that you might want to contemplate | 11:17 |
fenn | he has a good point about needing a DRC for each process | 11:22 |
kanzure | i am sorta busy and i was hoping you would contemplate writing a reply to them | 11:22 |
fenn | i think "vitamin" misses the point that you can make your own stuff | 11:22 |
kanzure | i am a bda person for not replying immediately | 11:22 |
fenn | yar | 11:22 |
kanzure | also, it's obvious that they don't know what they're doing if you look at their git repo | 11:22 |
kanzure | but they have a few good ideas and they seem to be making physical things | 11:22 |
kanzure | so if anything i can provide tactical support on the software end or something | 11:23 |
stieruridir_gym | kanzure: I fully admit I haven't started looking yet, but do you have any preferred resources on navigating the legal aspects of offshoring? | 11:25 |
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kanzure | cpopell: patri had his friends write a book about it for him, go look at whatever seasteading institute wrote | 11:25 |
cpopell | the seasteading wrote a book about sending labor overseas to third world countries? | 11:26 |
cpopell | *seasteading institute | 11:26 |
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ParahSai1in | if you're interested in incredibly expensive real estate, maybe i could interest you in hong kong | 11:29 |
cpopell | I have someone I want to hire to do something but they're not in the US, was just seeing if there were highly recommended resources | 11:29 |
ParahSai1in | i'd recommend giving them money and then receiving services | 11:30 |
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kanzure | that's called outsourcing | 11:38 |
kanzure | offshoring is seasteading | 11:38 |
cpopell | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offshoring | 11:38 |
kanzure | oh whatever | 11:38 |
kanzure | anyway if you want to do overseas outsourcing you can just pipe him through odesk or vlance or whateverthefuck. they manage the legal crap and then help you do payment. | 11:39 |
cpopell | Sweet, thanks. | 11:39 |
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fenn | i read technocopia's working documents and i'm not particularly impressed | 12:54 |
fenn | they seems to massively underestimate the time and energy requirements of farming | 12:54 |
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fenn | there's also no quantitative analysis of the system they're trying to design | 12:55 |
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fenn | "users subscribe to technocopia for $100 a month" also doesn't sound particularly revolutionary | 12:58 |
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kanzure | fenn: yeah, i never claimed it was impressive | 13:18 |
ParahSai1in | technocopia? | 13:40 |
kanzure | just some people i found that i emailed to say hi | 13:40 |
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ybit | http://i.imgur.com/fcZCJSQ.jpg | 17:01 |
ybit | .title | 17:02 |
yoleaux | ybit: Sorry, that doesn't appear to be an HTML page. | 17:02 |
ybit | yoleaux: no ocr? :'( | 17:02 |
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stieruridir | ybit: seen the Urbee? | 17:13 |
ybit | watching vid now | 17:16 |
ybit | thanks stieruridir, hadn't heard of it | 17:20 |
stieruridir | np | 17:21 |
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kanzure | geeze "This may happen more often than you think. There is a technique popularized by some MySQL hackers at Facebook called "poor man's query profiling" that uses gdb to (among other things) dump the the stack traces of every MySQL thread. Some awk normalizes, aggregates and sorts the traces. I often do this when I encounter a badly flailing or completely wedged MySQL daemon. It's a good way to see inside MySQL, and if a bunch of threads are ... | 19:25 |
kanzure | ... all blocked on a mutex or something it's pretty obvious." | 19:25 |
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brownies | that's pretty funny | 19:57 |
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ybit | these sounds need to be playing more in the background when working: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPRA0W1kECg | 21:48 |
ybit | .title | 21:48 |
yoleaux | 15 Sorting Algorithms in 6 Minutes - YouTube | 21:48 |
ybit | old i know, but fun to see again | 21:48 |
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kanzure | http://noads.libgen.info/ | 22:03 |
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ybit | "To facilitate genome-wide application of the sgRNA:pcoCas9 technology in Arabidopsis, we generated, using bioinformatics[!!11one], a database containing a total of 1,466,718 unique sgRNA target sequences in Arabidopsis exons..." | 23:04 |
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