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| jrayhawk | ybit: testing with selective installs of packages from unstable and experimental as needed is usually a good approach. | 01:41 |
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| Urchin[emacs] | hi | 01:42 |
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| jrayhawk | echo 'APT::Default-Release "testing";' > /etc/apt/apt.conf and add appropriate sources to /etc/apt/sources.list and use packagename/unstable or packagename/experimental with aptitude or apt-get | 01:43 |
| jrayhawk | or -t unstable or -t experimental to use a different Default-Release for that one invocation. | 01:43 |
| jrayhawk | being up to date on kernels and xservers is particularly nice | 01:44 |
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| ParaSa1lin | paperbot, http://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1024106605806 | 06:23 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag3/10.1023/A%253A1024106605806.pdf | 06:24 |
| ParaSa1lin | https://www.google.com/patents/US8137665 | 06:27 |
| juri_ | ok biohackers, work harder. | 06:28 |
| juri_ | my wrist is failing. someone needs to print me a new wrist + forewarm, if i'm to put code out like normal. :/ | 06:28 |
| ParaSa1lin | yeah you should take that one pretty seriously | 06:33 |
| FourFire | why is it failing? | 06:33 |
| * juri_ chrugs. | 06:33 | |
| FourFire | paperbot, http://www.idiom.com/~arkuat/extr/extropy.html | 06:33 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/3c80bac07dccb64841df22d6a09743fd.txt | 06:33 |
| juri_ | i'm a poor american. i don't get medical care.. | 06:33 |
| ParaSa1lin | i find that one of those captain crush spring things is good for strengthening hands to avoid that rsi from typing | 06:33 |
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| ParaSa1lin | might seem counter-intuitive to strain your hand harder to fix it, but high strains are what induces tendons and muscles to heal, not so much light chronic activity | 06:34 |
| juri_ | some time ago, i found my hands did not have the strength for normal keyboards. i'm on a laptop keyboard instead. | 06:35 |
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| juri_ | gone are the days of ibm clickey keyboards, for me. | 06:36 |
| ParaSa1lin | get a captain crush | 06:36 |
| ParaSa1lin | this N-fix nitrogen fixation system for non-legumes can't be that simple... | 06:37 |
| ParaSa1lin | paperbot, http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10529-010-0256-2 | 06:38 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag2/10.1007/s10529-010-0256-2.pdf | 06:38 |
| wallmani | paperbot: help | 06:46 |
| wallmani | :( | 06:46 |
| ParaSa1lin | gihub.com/kanzure/paperbot | 06:47 |
| ParaSa1lin | this really seems like a pretty amateurish patent-- theres only one claim | 06:49 |
| ParaSa1lin | is there anyone at a uni that can order acetobacter diazotrophicus? | 06:54 |
| ParaSa1lin | oh i know who to call upon for this | 06:55 |
| sbaugh | Is paperbot related to papermachine? :) | 07:03 |
| gradstudentbot | Where did all my bands go? | 07:03 |
| sbaugh | juri_: have you remapped caps lock yet? | 07:04 |
| juri_ | no, i really should. control is so far down there, and i am an emacs/screen user. | 07:14 |
| juri_ | next thing you know, i'll be some sellout non-free software user. like MOST OF THE REST OF YOU LAMERS. ;) | 07:18 |
| juri_ | er. :) | 07:18 |
| juri_ | sorry, wrong channel. wrist has me looking at my keyboard, not the screeen. :) | 07:18 |
| sbaugh | do it immediately, it's really really nice | 07:19 |
| chris_99 | remapped it to what sbaugh? | 07:20 |
| sbaugh | chris_99: escape or control, respective to being a vim or emacs user (becoming one of those would be my first anti-RSI tip) | 07:21 |
| FourFire | "some time ago, i found my hands did not have the strength for normal keyboards. i'm on a laptop keyboard instead." that's sad :( | 07:22 |
| chris_99 | aha interesting | 07:22 |
| juri_ | swapped. | 07:30 |
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| juri_ | whomever thought control belonged down there, and caps lock belonged next to the A key should be dipped in a medium grade acid, and rolled in salt. | 07:48 |
| sbaugh | http://www.catonmat.net/images/why-vim-uses-hjkl/lsi-adm3a-full-keyboard.jpg | 07:52 |
| sbaugh | ( http://www.catonmat.net/blog/why-vim-uses-hjkl-as-arrow-keys/ ) | 07:52 |
| sbaugh | now you know | 07:52 |
| ParaSa1lin | paperbot, http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2013/08/23/1302805110 | 08:02 |
| ParaSa1lin | whatevs i used wasd on vim | 08:02 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1073%2Fpnas.1302805110 | 08:02 |
| ParaSa1lin | paperbot, http://dx.doi.org/10.1073%2Fpnas.1302805110 | 08:03 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Recovery%20of%20a%20top%20predator%20mediates%20negative%20eutrophic%20effects%20on%20seagrass.pdf | 08:03 |
| kanzure | sbaugh: no, paperbot is not related to papermachine | 08:22 |
| gradstudentbot | Hey, that could be your research project. | 08:23 |
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| poppingtonic | neep neep | 08:28 |
| kanzure | yes? | 08:28 |
| poppingtonic | how are the improvements to paperbot going? | 08:32 |
| kanzure | stuck at combining multiple trumpet streams together in node | 08:33 |
| ParaSa1lin | paperbot, http://dx.doi.org/10.1109/JPROC.2013.2242411 | 08:33 |
| kanzure | duplexer() isn't doing what i thought it would do | 08:33 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag5/10.1109/JPROC.2013.2242411.pdf | 08:33 |
| kanzure | https://gist.github.com/kanzure/6258965 | 08:33 |
| kanzure | tr.select("title").createStream().pipe(through(function (data) { outstream.queue({"dom": data.toString()}); })) | 08:34 |
| kanzure | dup = duplexer(tr, outstream); | 08:34 |
| kanzure | that technically works but you supposedly want to monitor the html stream for more than just <title> | 08:34 |
| ParaSa1lin | hyperquest, trumpet, through, duplexer, barrage, thats a lot of imports | 08:35 |
| kanzure | duplexer is really tiny | 08:35 |
| kanzure | barrage is unnecessary | 08:35 |
| kanzure | hyperquest is just the request library without the stupid defaults (e.g. pooling is disabled so you can do more than 5 simultaneous requests) | 08:35 |
| kanzure | trumpet is an amazing streaming html parser | 08:35 |
| kanzure | through is also absurdly tiny | 08:36 |
| kanzure | a streaming paperbot is really appealing to me for some reason | 08:37 |
| ParaSa1lin | i guess pull parsing would net you some gains since you are using javascript rather than compiled code | 08:38 |
| kanzure | i think htmlparser2 on npmjs.org is a compiled html parser, but obviously that wont work in zotero or the browser | 08:39 |
| ParaSa1lin | a browser comes with an html parser free | 08:40 |
| kanzure | i don't know if trumpet defaults to sizzle/in-browser-stuff or if it just always uses the sax stuff | 08:42 |
| ParaSa1lin | many browsers have compiled html parsers and some are even optimized | 08:42 |
| kanzure | lately i have been diving into webkit's internals for unrelated reasons | 08:44 |
| ParaSa1lin | what you been doing in there | 08:47 |
| kanzure | poking around at the gobject bindings | 08:49 |
| kanzure | trying to find a flag to make it compile without gtk or qt or any other ui | 08:49 |
| EnLilaSko | paperbot: http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/pdf/10.1089/pho.2009.2651 | 08:52 |
| EnLilaSko | Oh wait | 08:52 |
| kanzure | > "But today [2007] there's an even bigger stink brewing around | 08:53 |
| kanzure | > Dual_EC_DRBG" (...) Dan Shumow and Niels Ferguson showed that the | 08:53 |
| kanzure | > algorithm contains a weakness that can only be described as a backdoor." | 08:53 |
| kanzure | > | 08:53 |
| kanzure | > "There are a bunch of constants -- fixed numbers -- in the standard used | 08:53 |
| kanzure | > to define the algorithm's elliptic curve. These constants are listed in | 08:53 |
| kanzure | > Appendix A of the NIST publication, but nowhere is it explained where | 08:53 |
| kanzure | > they came from." | 08:53 |
| kanzure | > | 08:53 |
| kanzure | > " (...) these numbers have a relationship with a second, secret set of | 08:53 |
| kanzure | > numbers (...). If you know the secret numbers, you can predict the | 08:53 |
| kanzure | > output of the random-number generator after collecting just 32 bytes of | 08:53 |
| kanzure | > its output. (...) you only need to monitor one TLS internet encryption | 08:53 |
| kanzure | > connection in order to crack the security of that protocol. If you know | 08:53 |
| kanzure | > the secret numbers, you can completely break any instantiation of | 08:53 |
| kanzure | > Dual_EC_DRBG." | 08:53 |
| kanzure | https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2013-September/029933.html | 08:58 |
| paperbot | RuntimeError: maximum recursion depth exceeded in cmp (file "/usr/lib/python2.7/_weakrefset.py", line 73, in __contains__) | 09:00 |
| ParaSa1lin | nobody subscribes to liebert | 09:01 |
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| streety | kanzure: have you seen the reply to that msg? Nick Mathewson wrote "my suspicion is not that they are cryptographically broken, but that they are deliberately hard to implement correctly" https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2013-September/029937.html | 11:34 |
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| heath | http://discoproject.org/ | 13:20 |
| heath | """Disco is a lightweight, open-source framework for distributed computing based on the MapReduce paradigm. Disco is powerful and easy to use, thanks to Python. """ | 13:21 |
| kanzure | http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg12325.html | 13:21 |
| yoleaux | 16:20Z <joepie91> kanzure: to read http://koen.io/2013/09/what-an-e-book-watermark-looks-like/ | 13:21 |
| chris_99 | cool heath, i'm just writing a lua MapReduce framework atm | 13:22 |
| heath | linked from http://proskurnia.in.ua/blog/2013/01/tools-to-choose-and-use/ | 13:25 |
| heath | 54% erlang, 38.6% python | 13:29 |
| chris_99 | pythons lack of posix threads is such a shame imo | 13:30 |
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| kanzure | "For the unwashed on the list, Wikipedia (and Der Spiegel) relate the story of (probably) hapless Crypto AG salesman Hans Buehler's 1992 arrest by the Iranian authorities after those allegations came to light, and the fact that Crypto AG paid a $1m ransom for him (but then later billed him for the $1m--you stay classy, Crypto AG)." | 14:30 |
| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_AG | 14:30 |
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| kanzure | Elizabeth: hi | 15:22 |
| Elizabeth | Hey | 15:44 |
| Elizabeth | Just ghosting the channel; it was recommended to me by a friend | 15:44 |
| Elizabeth | Whose name on here I'm not sure? | 15:45 |
| Elizabeth | I'll ask him and then I can name drop | 15:45 |
| Elizabeth | Haha | 15:45 |
| nalkri | Wasn't me, just in the interests of full disclosure | 15:50 |
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| kanzure | so much for that | 16:18 |
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| kanzure | "The fact that NSA/CSS has some capabilities against the encryption in TLS/SSL, HTTPS, SSH, VPNs, VoIP, WEBMAIL, and other network communication technologies." | 16:36 |
| kanzure | guess that could mean anything including weak ssh auth | 16:37 |
| kanzure | and they don't say which version of ssh | 16:37 |
| poppingtonic | kanzure: that email, man. | 16:40 |
| poppingtonic | such a shame that the "best" security protocol was designed at a time when export control was still in force, and was never improved afterwards... | 16:42 |
| kanzure | why do hospitals only have machines that make bad sounds? why not power-up sounds and stuff? bling bling bling ("congrats you survived another day") | 16:46 |
| ThomasEgi | cause hospitals are not casinos, and medical devices are no slot machines ? | 16:57 |
| kanzure | yes, i would hope they have a higher success rate | 16:58 |
| kanzure | the cryptpocalypse isn't as fun as i thought it would be | 16:59 |
| kanzure | tianeptine looks like a space ship | 17:01 |
| ThomasEgi | guess it's pretty silly to care about the NSA breaking some crypto when they can access the unencrypted data through things like OS backdoors. | 17:02 |
| ThomasEgi | still serves the purpose tho. | 17:02 |
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| efm | http://www.sciencemag.org/content/341/6150/1241214 | 19:08 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1126%2Fscience.1241214 | 19:08 |
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| abetusk | just got back from OSH 2013 | 20:34 |
| abetusk | First presentation was an open source microfluidic device | 20:34 |
| streety | abetusk: The open hardware summit? | 20:41 |
| streety | I'll have to look out for videos | 20:41 |
| streety | presumably http://microfluidics.utoronto.ca/dropbot/ | 20:46 |
| abetusk | that's it | 20:47 |
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| kanzure | was it carlo quinonez? | 20:59 |
| abetusk | I think it was Ryan Fobel | 21:05 |
| abetusk | http://apl.aip.org/resource/1/applab/v102/i19/p193513_s1?isAuthorized=no | 21:05 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=doi%3A10.1063%2F1.4807118 | 21:05 |
| abetusk | http://microfluidics.utoronto.ca/dropbot/index.html | 21:05 |
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